It pains me to admit it, but the English invented the guillotine some 100 years (or more) before the French. Saw a picture of the site of the original, but I can't recall where. :-) Hazel -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.0 - Release Date: 17/12/04