[Regia-NA] shoes
J Hill
list-regia-na@lig.net
Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:36:29 -0700
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Thanks! It is clear & makes sense, too. Rather like knitting socks... =
you generally don't want to bother w/ darning the soles, just cut it off =
& re-knit. Yrs, Jennifer
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Yolli=20
To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] shoes
Dear Jennifer,
=20
Yep I have replaced soles on shoes for the last 20 years - I hate it. =
I try to avoid it wherever I can. In fact if there is someone else who =
will do the job I'll get them to do it instead.
=20
If the leather is too squashed, then just dispose of the old sole and =
replace it ( if your shoes are of an upper and lower construction - if =
they are one piece then your life will be far more tricky ). The area =
around the hole will be pretty thin and the leather will also be full of =
fine grit. So my advice is to get shot of a fair area and insert a new =
piece. With the shoe re-turned ( better done wet in some cases ) then =
sew in the new section with a whip tunnel stitch or a saddle stitch =
again tunnel stitched. This may create a ridge which will need to be =
ironed out with a mallet. At this point you may discover that the sole =
leather was worse than you suspected or the stitches were too tight, =
etc, etc. Quality is everything regarding shoes. Crumby leather will let =
you down sooner than supple thick leather.
=20
That's why I generally replace soles wholesale. Even then the original =
upper will have stretched out of shape from your original pattern - so =
it's always tricky.=20
=20
The latchet shoe from Jorvik demonstrates a clump in the heel as I =
recall - but that's the only instance I can recall. The holed soles that =
crop up would imply that their habit was to cut the old sole free and =
replace it. There are a series from London ( slightly later ) where =
holes etc abound, and areas were slashed to ease pressure on bunions.
=20
You asked about heavier sole leather. That is an option and an =
accurate one too. But again I must point out that the leather must be =
both thick and supple - that's how they were able to make their shoes =
the way they did. You should be able to turn the shoe dry and only use =
water when really pressed.
=20
Cheers, Roll.
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net] =
On Behalf Of J Hill
Sent: 18 June 2003 19:18
To: Regia
Subject: [Regia-NA] shoes
=20
I have a question about turnshoes. Have you mended the soles on yrs? =
What about clump soles? Are they a later idea? Have you used a =
heavier, stiffer hide for the soles? Does that make it impossible to =
turn the shoes right side out?
Jennifer, asking all too many silly questions
Jennifer Hill
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Wes =F0u hal.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks! It is clear & makes =
sense,=20
too. Rather like knitting socks... you generally don't want to =
bother w/=20
darning the soles, just cut it off & re-knit. Yrs,=20
Jennifer</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dyolli@lineone.net =
href=3D"mailto:yolli@lineone.net">Yolli</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlist-regia-na@lig.net=20
href=3D"mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 18, 2003 =
4:02=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Regia-NA] =
shoes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear=20
Jennifer,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yep I have =
replaced=20
soles on shoes for the last 20 years =96 I hate it. I try to avoid it =
wherever I=20
can. In fact if there is someone else who will do the job I=92ll get =
them to do=20
it instead.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the =
leather is too=20
squashed, then just dispose of the old sole and replace it <SPAN =
class=3DGramE>(=20
if</SPAN> your shoes are of an upper and lower construction =96 if =
they are one=20
piece then your life will be far more tricky ). The area around the =
hole will=20
be pretty thin and the leather will also be full of fine grit. So my =
advice is=20
to get shot of a fair area and insert a new piece. With the shoe =
re-turned=20
<SPAN class=3DGramE>( better</SPAN> done wet in some cases ) then sew =
in the new=20
section with a whip tunnel stitch or a saddle stitch again tunnel =
stitched.=20
This may create a ridge which will need to be ironed out with a =
mallet. At=20
this point you may discover that the sole leather was worse than you =
suspected=20
or the stitches were too tight, etc, etc. Quality is everything =
regarding=20
shoes. Crumby leather will let you down sooner than supple thick=20
leather.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That=92s =
why I=20
generally replace soles wholesale. Even then the original upper will =
have=20
stretched out of shape from your original pattern =96 so it=92s always =
tricky.=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The latchet =
shoe from=20
<SPAN class=3DSpellE>Jorvik</SPAN> demonstrates a clump in the heel as =
I recall=20
=96 but that=92s the only instance I can recall. The holed soles that =
crop up=20
would imply that their habit was to cut the old sole free and replace =
it.=20
There are a series from </SPAN></FONT><st1:City><st1:place><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">London</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:City><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <SPAN =
class=3DGramE>(=20
slightly</SPAN> later ) where<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN>holes etc abound, and areas were slashed to ease pressure on=20
bunions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You asked =
about=20
heavier sole leather. That is an option and an accurate one too. But =
again I=20
must point out that the leather must be both thick and supple =96 =
that=92s how=20
they were able to make their shoes the way they did. You should be =
able to=20
turn the shoe dry and only use water when really=20
pressed.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers,=20
Roll.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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EN-US">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net] =
<B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>J Hill<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 18 June 2003 =
19:18<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Regia<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Regia-NA]=20
shoes</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a question about=20
turnshoes. Have you mended the soles on yrs? What about =
clump=20
soles? Are they a later idea? Have you used a heavier, =
stiffer=20
hide for the soles? Does that make it impossible to turn the =
shoes right=20
side out?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jennifer, asking all too =
many=20
silly questions</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>Jennifer=20
Hill<BR>=C6lfgifu<BR>Wes =F0u=20
hal.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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