[Regia-NA] shoes

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Dear Jennifer,
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Yep I have replaced soles on shoes for the last 20 years =96 I hate it. =
I
try to avoid it wherever I can. In fact if there is someone else who
will do the job I=92ll get them to do it instead.
=20
If the leather is too squashed, then just dispose of the old sole and
replace it ( if your shoes are of an upper and lower construction =96 if
they are one piece then your life will be far more tricky ). The area
around the hole will be pretty thin and the leather will also be full of
fine grit. So my advice is to get shot of a fair area and insert a new
piece. With the shoe re-turned ( better done wet in some cases ) then
sew in the new section with a whip tunnel stitch or a saddle stitch
again tunnel stitched. This may create a ridge which will need to be
ironed out with a mallet. At this point you may discover that the sole
leather was worse than you suspected or the stitches were too tight,
etc, etc. Quality is everything regarding shoes. Crumby leather will let
you down sooner than supple thick leather.
=20
That=92s why I generally replace soles wholesale. Even then the original
upper will have stretched out of shape from your original pattern =96 so
it=92s always tricky.=20
=20
The latchet shoe from Jorvik demonstrates a clump in the heel as I
recall =96 but that=92s the only instance I can recall. The holed soles =
that
crop up would imply that their habit was to cut the old sole free and
replace it. There are a series from London ( slightly later ) where
holes etc abound, and areas were slashed to ease pressure on bunions.
=20
You asked about heavier sole leather. That is an option and an accurate
one too. But again I must point out that the leather must be both thick
and supple =96 that=92s how they were able to make their shoes the way =
they
did. You should be able to turn the shoe dry and only use water when
really pressed.
=20
Cheers, Roll.
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]
On Behalf Of J Hill
Sent: 18 June 2003 19:18
To: Regia
Subject: [Regia-NA] shoes
=20
I have a question about turnshoes.  Have you mended the soles on yrs?
What about clump soles?  Are they a later idea?  Have you used a
heavier, stiffer hide for the soles?  Does that make it impossible to
turn the shoes right side out?
Jennifer, asking all too many silly questions

Jennifer Hill
=C6lfgifu
Wes =F0u hal.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear =
Jennifer,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yep I have replaced soles on shoes =
for the
last 20 years &#8211; I hate it. I try to avoid it wherever I can. In =
fact if
there is someone else who will do the job I&#8217;ll get them to do it =
instead.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If the leather is too squashed, =
then just
dispose of the old sole and replace it <span class=3DGramE>( if</span> =
your shoes
are of an upper and lower construction &#8211; if they are one piece =
then your
life will be far more tricky ). The area around the hole will be pretty =
thin
and the leather will also be full of fine grit. So my advice is to get =
shot of
a fair area and insert a new piece. With the shoe re-turned <span =
class=3DGramE>(
better</span> done wet in some cases ) then sew in the new section with =
a whip
tunnel stitch or a saddle stitch again tunnel stitched. This may create =
a ridge
which will need to be ironed out with a mallet. At this point you may =
discover
that the sole leather was worse than you suspected or the stitches were =
too
tight, etc, etc. Quality is everything regarding shoes. Crumby leather =
will let
you down sooner than supple thick leather.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That&#8217;s why I generally =
replace soles
wholesale. Even then the original upper will have stretched out of shape =
from
your original pattern &#8211; so it&#8217;s always tricky. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The latchet shoe from <span =
class=3DSpellE>Jorvik</span>
demonstrates a clump in the heel as I recall &#8211; but that&#8217;s =
the only
instance I can recall. The holed soles that crop up would imply that =
their
habit was to cut the old sole free and replace it. There are a series =
from </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
  size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>London</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font size=3D2
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <span class=3DGramE>( slightly</span> later ) where<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>=A0 </span>holes etc abound, and areas were =
slashed to
ease pressure on bunions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You asked about heavier sole =
leather. That
is an option and an accurate one too. But again I must point out that =
the
leather must be both thick and supple &#8211; that&#8217;s how they were =
able
to make their shoes the way they did. You should be able to turn the =
shoe dry
and only use water when really pressed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Cheers, =
Roll.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
list-regia-na-admin@lig.net
[mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>J Hill<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 June 2003 =
19:18<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Regia<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Regia-NA] =
shoes</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have a question about
turnshoes.&nbsp; Have you mended the soles on yrs?&nbsp; What about =
clump
soles?&nbsp; Are they a later idea?&nbsp; Have you used a heavier, =
stiffer hide
for the soles?&nbsp; Does that make it impossible to turn the shoes =
right side
out?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jennifer, asking all too =
many silly
questions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Jennifer Hill<br>
=C6lfgifu<br>
Wes =F0u hal.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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