[Regia-NA] Regia Combat (was Greetings)
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Don't know if I've ever been concussed in the SCA....I have seen stars once=
:o) (dain-bramage). But I have had rivets popped out of my helmet, and =
witnessed someone whose helmet was so crushed, he had to be cut out of it..=
.very, very carefully.
Bill
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Now there's a tremendous paradox. A group that tries to be so much=20
about safety essentially has managed to make the head the primary=20
target. The one place you don't want to hit someone unless you really=20
want to hurt them. A neurosurgeon once explained to me that a=20
concussion is the brain getting forced against the inside of the skull.=20
So, you don't need to hit someone's head, just move it so fast that the=20
brain sloshes around inside it. So, in retrospect, I guess that weak=20
backhand is a good thing, because a solid thump would bring out the=20
stars and birds, helmet or no.=20
On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Douglas Sunlin wrote:=20
> There's also legshots, which are not legal in the SCA, but might be=20
> pretty tempting if the opponent was close enough...=20
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>> From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk=20
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>> Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Regia Combat (was Greetings)=20
>> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:21:20 +0200 (CEST)=20
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>> I was with holding because the two systems are different in most=20
>> ways, and I didn't want to compare apples and oranges. Last time I=20
>> fought SCA style, a few years ago, it was illegal to shieldbash=20
>> someone, that is to use your shield offensively like a weapon. Thus=20
>> no pushing. So you could get in close and perform the miracle=20
>> back-of-the-head shot. I personally don't think it would practical,=20
>> because...=20
>> 1) You have to get in close to execute the manuver, thus making you=20
>> more vulnerable. Why do I want to get inside someone that I know can=20
>> do the same back to me? And if I have an advantage of a distance, I=20
>> would use it at length and not put myself in jeopardy of someone=20
>> else's shorter range. I too think it is an SCA-ism, as if you have=20
>> ever seen two heavily armored fighters, covered by door shields, then=20
>> you would see the only opening is the head...and if they can't push=20
>> against one-another, then the means close in and attack the most=20
>> exposed target...the head.=20
>> 2) I don't think you could get in a killing blow with that=20
>> attack...wound, yes, but not kill.=20
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<P>Don't know if I've ever been concussed in the SCA....I have seen stars o=
nce :o) (dain-bramage). But I have had rivets popped=
out of my helmet, and witnessed someone whose helmet was so crushed, he ha=
d to be cut out of it...very, very carefully.<BR></P>
<P>Bill<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #ff0=
000 2px solid">Message date : Oct 14 2003, 04:43 PM <BR>From : Wulfhere se =
Treowryhta <WULFHERE@MASSPOSTROAD.NET><BR>To : list-regia-na@lig.net <BR>Co=
py to : <BR>Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] Regia Combat (was Greetings) <BR>Now t=
here's a tremendous paradox. A group that tries to be so much <BR>about saf=
ety essentially has managed to make the head the primary <BR>target. The on=
e place you don't want to hit someone unless you really <BR>want to hurt th=
em. A neurosurgeon once explained to me that a <BR>concussion is the brain =
getting forced against the inside of the skull. <BR>So, you don't need to h=
it someone's head, just move it so fast that the <BR>brain sloshes around i=
nside it. So, in retrospect, I guess that weak <BR>backhand is a good thing=
, because a solid thump would bring out the <BR>stars and birds, helmet or =
no. <BR><BR><BR>On Tuesday, October 14, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Douglas Sunlin w=
rote: <BR><BR>> There's also legshots, which are not legal in the SCA, b=
ut might be <BR>> pretty tempting if the opponent was close enough... <B=
R>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On manr=E6den, <BR>> Osweald of Baldur=
strand <BR>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age <BR>>=
; http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>=
; <BR>> <BR>>> From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk <BR>>> =
Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net <BR>>> To: list-regia-na@lig.net <BR>=
>> Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Regia Combat (was Greetings) <BR>>&=
gt; Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:21:20 +0200 (CEST) <BR>>> <BR>>> =
I was with holding because the two systems are different in most <BR>>&g=
t; ways, and I didn't want to compare apples and oranges. Last time I <BR>&=
gt;> fought SCA style, a few years ago, it was illegal to shieldbash <BR=
>>> someone, that is to use your shield offensively like a weapon. Th=
us <BR>>> no pushing. So you could get in close and perform the mirac=
le <BR>>> back-of-the-head shot. I personally don't think it would pr=
actical, <BR>>> because... <BR>>> 1) You have to get in close t=
o execute the manuver, thus making you <BR>>> more vulnerable. Why do=
I want to get inside someone that I know can <BR>>> do the same back=
to me? And if I have an advantage of a distance, I <BR>>> would use =
it at length and not put myself in jeopardy of someone <BR>>> else's =
shorter range. I too think it is an SCA-ism, as if you have <BR>>> ev=
er seen two heavily armored fighters, covered by door shields, then <BR>>=
;> you would see the only opening is the head...and if they can't push <=
BR>>> against one-another, then the means close in and attack the mos=
t <BR>>> exposed target...the head. <BR>>> 2) I don't think you=
could get in a killing blow with that <BR>>> attack...wound, yes, bu=
t not kill. <BR>>> Bill <BR>> <BR>> ___________________________=
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