[Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query/Vara
Hrolf Douglasson
list-regia-na@lig.net
Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:47:03 -0000
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Hi Kathy, Hrolf here. Just to throw a slight spanner into the works...
Surviving evidence seems to suggest that people back then didn't bother =
much trying to pronounce unfamiliar names; sagas and annals are full of =
references to people that only become clear when cross- referenced to =
other sources, and the actual "ethnic" version of the name appears. =
Bjorn is unlikely to have been overly familiar with Catriona as a name, =
and may well have bastardised it into something like Katja, kat, etc. It =
never hurts to be prepared for these events ahead of time... and also =
adds to the fun, I find.
Regards,
Hrolf the overly-named
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From: Kathy=20
To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query/Vara
Good to hear from you Vara.. I like your story.. but 'sad' =
naaah.I;like it.. and your story has helped me figure out how to =
acknowledge my partnership with 'Bjorn (Not her real name.. much as =
she might wish it otherwise) At least as far as the SCA goes =
anyway......
so i think i shall just start signing myself Catriona Bjronswffe at =
events from now on.. giggle=20
kathy=20
Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
I'm the 'sad' one in the group..picked up a Viking name at =
birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears oaths and punished =
oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson (Hrolf son of =
Douglas, and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe to my name. =
More tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are Hrolfsson =
and Hrolfsdottir.
As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a =
recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field full.
Anyone know how Alan's helm is?
vara
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From: Kathy=20
To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query
Thanks, aly I will
Vara.. care to jump in here now and help me out with this name =
business.. Please pretty please
kathy
Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote:
Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia =
name ande she can explain the whole system.
Aly=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Kathy, Hrolf here. Just to throw a =
slight=20
spanner into the works...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Surviving evidence seems to suggest =
that people=20
back then didn't bother much trying to pronounce unfamiliar names; sagas =
and=20
annals are full of references to people that only become clear when =
cross-=20
referenced to other sources, and the actual "ethnic" version of the name =
appears. Bjorn is unlikely to have been overly familiar with Catriona as =
a name,=20
and may well have bastardised it into something like Katja, kat, etc. It =
never=20
hurts to be prepared for these events ahead of time... and also adds to =
the fun,=20
I find.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hrolf the overly-named</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Good to hear from you Vara.. I like your story.. but=20
'sad' naaah.I;like it.. and your story =
has =20
helped me figure out how to acknowledge my partnership with =
'Bjorn =20
(Not her real name.. much as she might wish it otherwise) At least as =
far as=20
the SCA goes anyway......</DIV>
<DIV>so i think i shall just start signing myself Catriona =
Bjronswffe at events from now on.. giggle </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>kathy <BR><BR><B><I>Hrolf Douglasson =
<Hrolf@btinternet.com></I></B>=20
wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm the 'sad' one in the =
group..picked up a=20
Viking name at birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears =
oaths=20
and punished oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson =
(Hrolf=20
son of Douglas, and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe =
to my=20
name. More tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are =
Hrolfsson=20
and Hrolfsdottir.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for the ladle..I have been known =
to take a=20
swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field=20
full.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone know how Alan's helm =
is?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>vara</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dkth62@yahoo.com =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November =
13, 2003=20
6:07 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Regia-NA] Re: =
Swords/Gudrun/query</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks, aly I will</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Vara.. care to jump in here now and help me out =
with this=20
name business.. Please pretty please</DIV>
<DIV>kathy<BR><BR><B><I><A=20
href=3D"mailto:Cuthwyn@aol.com">Cuthwyn@aol.com</A></I></B> =
wrote:</DIV>
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as =
well as=20
her Regia name ande she can explain the whole =
system.<BR><BR>Aly</FONT>=20
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