thought you guys might want to see the beginnings of my new hat (Dongal = (my knight) will get one similar after this one is done, and possibly = Snorri (my lil squire brother) too!) http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/010147.html its based on this helm = http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/SCA/research/helms/valsgarde.htm#6 H