[Regia-NA] Re: [Regia] Axe loops (further thoughts)
Tate William T Jr TSgt 352 OSS/SCSC
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Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:07:40 -0000
I mean ban the loop/ring holders, not necessarily axes.
Bill
WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF
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-----Original Message-----
From: J. Kim Siddorn [mailto:kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:55 AM
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Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: [Regia] Axe loops (further thoughts)
Ah! Now you are really talking! Ban the short hafted hand axe as a =
field
weapon? What provenance do we have for axes being used as primary or
secondary weapons?
Weapons, mind you, not in a domestic context.
Regards,
Kim Siddorn
"Spring in the air?"
"Spring in the air yerself !"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brand N Flossi" <brandnflossi@btinternet.com>
To: <regia@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia] Axe loops (further thoughts)
> I used to carry my axe in my belt, then I nearly killed myself with =
it.
> Never again.
>
> If we take away the axe rings the I may as well sell mine as its not =
going
> on my belt again.
>
> Which puts us back to the point that I don't in anyway think they =
ever
> carried them on the belt at all.
>
> I'm not convinced that sword carrying fully mailed noble in going to =
have
a
> axe as a backup weapon anyway (having a retainer nearby with a spare =
sword
> ah! now your talking ), And by the way do we have any provenance for =
thins
> practice or is this just another re-enactorism, I know carrying
multi-spears
> etc and a sword and a Hadseax for finishing off with but would the =
also
> really carry an axe ?
>
> Brand
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan Beal" <fenrirr@tripod.co.uk>
> To: <regia@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Regia] Axe loops (further thoughts)
>
>
> > Ok folks
> >
> > I am thinging specifically of combat axes here. It is
> > an accepted fact they existed and that since you would
> > have your hands full with you spear and shield
> > (legally requiring both), imo you have to have
> > somewhere to stash it.
> >
> > Not suggesting you would carry a live axe unsheathed.
> > I am with kim that there probably would have been a
> > something that protected the carrier from the
> > sharpness and the head as a whole from the weather.
> > Unfortunateley don=B4t know what that would look like in
> > period. Every attempt at it i have seen has been imo
> > fiddley, certainley not something i would want for a
> > backup weapon.
> >
> > My point (bringing this back on point) is do we have a
> > clue how these things were carried authentically.
> >
> > I am not satistied with the idea of the axe being
> > stuffed in a belt because it has all the same
> > disadvantages (it falls out, digs into you if you fall
> > on it, etc) as a loop* but more so as they would have
> > far more freedom of movement. Plus the fact that i
> > have to then wear 2 belts (one tight to hold my cloths
> > where i want them, and a second especially for my
> > axe).
> >
> > A loop or frog that is the right size gives me better
> > acess to my weapon (and i am likeley to want it in a
> > hurry, it=B4s a backup weapon for when my spear breaks),
> > and reduces problems asosciated with weapon loss.
> > Also in the case of axes it would allow me to
> > orientate the weapon along the flat of my leg, this
> > reduces the bumping problem something chronic.
> >
> > Not to mention that the loop would use a small strap
> > of leather and not require a second set of fittings,
> > the penny pinching miser in me likes the economics of
> > that.
> >
> > I would also like to add that the stuff it in your
> > belt option is probably a complete bugger for horsemen
> > (martin any thoughts on that?).
> >
> > The same argument could be explored for maces i
> > happily agree.
> >
> > So as i said we got any piccys of blokes with axes (or
> > maces) at the hip? Can they tell us anything? The
> > practice may be a re-enactorism but it is nontheless a
> > good idea imo and so might be worth thinking about.
> >
> > For tools the case is completely different, no tool
> > axe would need to be carried in this manner as your
> > hands are far less likeley to be full and you don=B4t
> > need it =B4quickley=B4 in the same way. So i=B4m only
> > thinking combat axes here.
> >
> > Hugz
> > N.
> >
> > Please can we ban the metal ones, and think a little
> > before we go the whole hog and ban the leather ones.
> >
> > * (and i am specifically thinking a leather thing here
> > as opposed to the nasty chrome bridal rings (ban them
> > bean them, i=B4d say burn but i have no idea what they
> > are coated with))
> >
> >
> > --- Patrick O'Connell <Brynjolf@btopenworld.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I used to carry my mace through my belt as well. I
> > > didn't find it
> > > uncomfortable but I suppose it's horses for courses.
> > > Have you tried it lying
> > > quite flat across your front through the belt?
> > > That's the way that worked
> > > best for me
> > >
> > > Cheers Pat
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phil" <phils@clara.net>
> > > To: <regia@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Regia] Axe loops
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've no problem with banning axe loops (as I don't
> > > own a hand axe!). What
> > > do
> > > > you suggest for a mace? I've carried it sometimes
> > > in my belt, but its very
> > > > uncomfortable
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > >
> > >
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