[Regia-NA] Re: Old English
Martin Field
list-regia-na@lig.net
Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:06:11 -0400
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Sorry for the spam but you could try my site at=20
www.an-saxim.com
More local (Canada) and we carry all the titles of Anglo-Saxon Books.=20
There are also some usefull O.E. links that I thought might be helpful =
to anyone so interested.
The Fall course I will be attending will ding me around the $890.00 CAD =
mark so it is''nt a cheapy and this is only an introduction.
It is taught by Sarah Keefer of Trent U. Ontario whose name might be =
familiar if anyone subscribes to O.E. publications.
Perhaps a good publication to whet the curiosity would be to subscribe =
to the Old English Newsletter published for The Old English Division of =
the Modern Language Association of America by the Medieval Institute, =
Western Michigan University and its Richard Rawlinson Center for =
Anglo-Saxon Studies.
http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/oen/index.html
Editorial Offices:
E-mail: jonathan-wilcox@uiowa.edu
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All the Best
Martin.=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ealdric Frog_Hollow=20
To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Old English
Try this site: http://www.asbooks.co.uk/index.htm
At 03:08 PM 6/2/2002, you wrote:
I would be very interested in locating books on Old English suitable =
for self-teaching. I do not have access to any classes in the field. =
Gwen verch Rhys=20
Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:=20
Tom=20
The word Geteld is is pronounced in the same way as Gesi=F0a in as =
much as the=20
"Ge" sounds like "Yee" -Yeeteld.=20
I'm now aware that the "ld" is treated any diferently however I =
must stress=20
I'm no authority on Old English.=20
I'll most likely be going to an introductoryy course in the Fall =
which=20
starts off with 6 weeks of Old English then progresses to Early =
Middle, then=20
Middle E. to Modern E. then winds up back to Old English.=20
I'm fortunate that the husband of one of our new members in Canada =
of The=20
English Companions heads up the Department of Linguisticts at =
Trent=20
University, Ontario and has advised me that this would be a good=20
introduction course to take for myself as I speak no othe =
languages, before=20
I enter a course which comprises 100% O.E.=20
On a personal note I think I am a sort of shell in as much as I =
can wear the=20
finest Anglo-Clothing and display the demeanor but without =
speaking at least=20
some of the language a very critical component is missing. I think =
that=20
appplies to any society or persona we are trying to portay.=20
I'm trying to encourage the members of a nearby SCA group who will =
be=20
participating in an Anglo-Saxon village event to at least speak =
some easy to=20
learn one-liners associated to their trade or status. Even if thay =
say to=20
the public "good morning" or "good afternnoon, my name is ..." - =
"Good=20
mergen, min nama is ...." "Good afen, min nama is ........"=20
Out of curiosity, how many of us can speak some Old Norse or Old =
Engilsh ?=20
Cheers=20
Martin=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From:=20
To:=20
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 11:36 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] getelds
> Hi again,=20
> Here I go 'talking' to myself again...=20
>=20
> > Now, I've done a bit of research on Anglo-Saxon tents=20
> > (also called Getelds...pronounced yeteld or something=20
> > like that in case you're curious).=20
> Actually, if you're not speaking ON I think it would=20
> more likely be phonetically spelled "ueteld". When you=20
> have a "G" (or is it a "Ge"?) at the beginning of a=20
> word in OE, it's pronounced more like a "U". Now that=20
> I'm thinking about it, doesn't something funny happen=20
> to the pronounciation of the "ld" at the end of the=20
> word?=20
>=20
> What do you say Martin? (or any of you other OE people=20
> out there?)=20
>=20
> To further muddy the water, one of the more curious=20
> things I learned from the AS seminar I went to in March=20
> is that it would appear most of the examples of Runes=20
> from Anglo Saxon England show up in contexts where the=20
> author seems to also know Latin. Contrary to the idea=20
> that Runes were being used by the uneducated masses=20
> they appear to be used by the intelligentia.=20
>=20
> Also it seems that some people have deduced that the AS=20
> flavor of Latin hYahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World =
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Ealdric of Frog Hollow
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry for the spam but you could try my =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.an-saxim.com">www.an-saxim.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>More local (Canada) and we carry all =
the titles of=20
Anglo-Saxon Books. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There are also some usefull O.E. links =
that I=20
thought might be helpful to anyone so interested.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Fall course I will be attending =
will ding me=20
around the $890.00 CAD mark so it is''nt a cheapy and this is only an=20
introduction.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is taught by Sarah Keefer of Trent =
U. Ontario=20
whose name might be familiar if anyone subscribes to O.E.=20
publications.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Perhaps a good publication to whet the =
curiosity=20
would be to subscribe to the Old English Newsletter published for =
The Old=20
E</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>nglish Division</FONT> <FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>of the Modern Language Association of America by the =
Medieval=20
Institute, Western Michigan University and its Richard Rawlinson Center =
for=20
Anglo-Saxon Studies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/oen/index.html">http://www.wmich.ed=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Editorial Offices:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the Best</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Martin.</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 15, 2002 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Regia-NA] Re: Old =
English</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3D3>Try this site: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.asbooks.co.uk/index.htm"=20
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.asbooks.co.uk/index.htm<BR><BR></A>At =
03:08 PM=20
6/2/2002, you wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite type=3D"cite">I would be very interested =
in=20
locating books on Old English suitable for self-teaching. I do =
not=20
have access to any classes in the field. Gwen verch Rhys =
<BR><BR> =20
<B><I>Martin Field <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:marfield66@sympatico.ca">marfield66@sympatico.ca</A>></=
I></B></FONT>=20
wrote:=20
<DL>
<DD>Tom=20
<DD>The word Geteld is is pronounced in the same way as Gesi=F0a =
in as much=20
as the=20
<DD>"Ge" sounds like "Yee" -Yeeteld.=20
<DD>I'm now aware that the "ld" is treated any diferently however =
I must=20
stress=20
<DD>I'm no authority on Old English.=20
<DD>I'll most likely be going to an introductoryy course in the =
Fall which=20
<DD>starts off with 6 weeks of Old English then progresses to =
Early=20
Middle, then=20
<DD>Middle E. to Modern E. then winds up back to Old English.=20
<DD>I'm fortunate that the husband of one of our new members in =
Canada of=20
The=20
<DD>English Companions heads up the Department of Linguisticts at =
Trent=20
<DD>University, Ontario and has advised me that this would be a =
good=20
<DD>introduction course to take for myself as I speak no othe =
languages,=20
before=20
<DD>I enter a course which comprises 100% O.E.=20
<DD>On a personal note I think I am a sort of shell in as much as =
I can=20
wear the=20
<DD>finest Anglo-Clothing and display the demeanor but without =
speaking at=20
least=20
<DD>some of the language a very critical component is missing. I =
think=20
that=20
<DD>appplies to any society or persona we are trying to portay.=20
<DD>I'm trying to encourage the members of a nearby SCA group who =
will be=20
<DD>participating in an Anglo-Saxon village event to at least =
speak some=20
easy to=20
<DD>learn one-liners associated to their trade or status. Even if =
thay say=20
to=20
<DD>the public "good morning" or "good afternnoon, my name is ..." =
- "Good=20
<DD>mergen, min nama is ...." "Good afen, min nama is ........"=20
<DD>Out of curiosity, how many of us can speak some Old Norse or =
Old=20
Engilsh ?=20
<DD>Cheers=20
<DD>Martin=20
<DD>----- Original Message -----=20
<DD>From:=20
<DD>To:=20
<DD>Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 11:36 PM=20
<DD>Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] getelds<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DD>> Hi again,=20
<DD>> Here I go 'talking' to myself again...=20
<DD>>=20
<DD>> > Now, I've done a bit of research on Anglo-Saxon =
tents=20
<DD>> > (also called Getelds...pronounced yeteld or =
something=20
<DD>> > like that in case you're curious).=20
<DD>> Actually, if you're not speaking ON I think it would=20
<DD>> more likely be phonetically spelled "ueteld". When you=20
<DD>> have a "G" (or is it a "Ge"?) at the beginning of a=20
<DD>> word in OE, it's pronounced more like a "U". Now that=20
<DD>> I'm thinking about it, doesn't something funny happen=20
<DD>> to the pronounciation of the "ld" at the end of the=20
<DD>> word?=20
<DD>>=20
<DD>> What do you say Martin? (or any of you other OE people=20
<DD>> out there?)=20
<DD>>=20
<DD>> To further muddy the water, one of the more curious=20
<DD>> things I learned from the AS seminar I went to in March=20
<DD>> is that it would appear most of the examples of Runes=20
<DD>> from Anglo Saxon England show up in contexts where the=20
<DD>> author seems to also know Latin. Contrary to the idea=20
<DD>> that Runes were being used by the uneducated masses=20
<DD>> they appear to be used by the intelligentia.=20
<DD>>=20
<DD>> Also it seems that some people have deduced that the AS=20
<DD>> flavor of Latin h<A=20
=
href=3D"http://rd.yahoo.com/welcome/*http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com">Yahoo=
!</A>=20
- Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup =
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