[Regia-NA] Electrical advice needed

Hrolf Douglasson list-regia-na@lig.net
Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:43:17 +0100


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Hmmm.....the capacitor may have gone, they do this sometimes, with no =
obvious signs of having done so. But it's unlikely.=20
    No brushes??? Be it an AC genny, with slip rings, or a DC with a =
commutator ( or is it the other way round on a generator?), it should =
have carbon brushes in it somewhere, or it really ain't gonna work!
    The other thing to do is put your multimeter onto AC Volts, put the =
probes into the output socket and fire it up, then measure the output =
voltages. If you have voltage under this no-load condition, then =
reconnect your load (known good power tool, etc), and measure again with =
that switched on. If there is no voltage, then you may have a problem in =
the windings, in which case- bin it.

    Good Luck

    hrolf
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: J. K. Siddorn=20
  To: Regia UK E-group ; list-regia-na@lig.net=20
  Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:44 PM
  Subject: [Regia-NA] Electrical advice needed


   I have just bought another 240/110V generator. It was cheap because =
the generator doesn't. Haverhill generators appear to have departed this =
life, so I can't ask them. It is a 2 KVA unit.=20
   The engine (5hp Briggs and Stratton) works fine, fires up and runs =
straight away, but almost nothing comes out of the genny. I plugged a =
power tool into it and it just turns very slowly and intermittently. I =
don't have any 110V power tools, so I can't check that side.

   I've checked the connections inside the plastic cover with a multi =
meter, getting continuity everywhere and no current going to earth. =
There are no brushes fitted (no slip ring) and there is a big capacitor =
under the plastic cover (5" x 1")=20

   There appears to be no damage either physical or electrical.

   Any ideas what I should check next???


  Regards,


  Kim Siddorn.

  The early bird may get the worm -
  but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hmmm.....the capacitor may have gone, =
they do this=20
sometimes, with no obvious signs of having done so. But it's unlikely.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; No brushes??? Be it =
an AC genny,=20
with slip rings, or a DC with a commutator ( or is it the other way =
round on a=20
generator?), it should have carbon brushes in it somewhere, or it really =
ain't=20
gonna work!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The other thing to =
do is put=20
your multimeter onto AC Volts, put the probes into the output socket and =
fire it=20
up, then measure the output voltages. If you have voltage under this =
no-load=20
condition, then reconnect your load (known good power tool, etc), and =
measure=20
again with that switched on. If there is no voltage, then you may have a =
problem=20
in the windings, in which case- bin it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good =
Luck</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; hrolf</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dkim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk=20
  href=3D"mailto:kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk">J. K. Siddorn</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:regia@yahoogroups.com">Regia UK E-group</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dlist-regia-na@lig.net=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 11, 2002 =
4:44=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Regia-NA] Electrical =
advice=20
  needed</DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;I have just bought another 240/110V generator. It was cheap =
because=20
  the generator doesn't. Haverhill generators appear to have departed =
this life,=20
  so I can&#8217;t ask them. It is a 2 KVA unit.=20
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;The engine (5hp Briggs and Stratton) works =
fine,=20
  fires up and runs straight away, but almost nothing comes out of the =
genny. I=20
  plugged a power tool into it and it just turns very slowly and =
intermittently.=20
  I don&#8217;t have any 110V power tools, so I can&#8217;t check that =
side.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;I&#8217;ve checked the connections inside =
the plastic cover=20
  with a multi meter, getting continuity everywhere and no current going =
to=20
  earth. There are no brushes fitted (no slip ring) and there is a big =
capacitor=20
  under the plastic cover (5&#8221; x 1&#8221;) </P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;There appears to be no damage either =
physical or=20
  electrical.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;Any ideas what I should check next???<SPAN=20
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Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P><BR>Regards,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>Kim Siddorn.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>The early bird may get the worm -<BR>but the second mouse gets =
the=20
  cheese! </DIV>
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