[Regia-NA] Danish Rulers question.

[Chris Knight]

thanks for the help.  the reason I brought up the Heimskringla is they 
mention Gorm the old as the king of denmark in passing. Could you tell me 
more about sjelland ? did they have different kings then Denmark were they 
totally independant from jutland ?  And when the Danish great army invaded 
England and eventually formed the Danelaw, who lead them?
           If you can help me with this I'd appreciate it.
                                          Thanks for the help.
                                        Chris Knight


>From: "Hrolf Douglasson" <Hrolf@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net
>To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
>Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Danish Rulers question.
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:26:47 +0100
>
>Off the top of my head, 'cos it's late, and I can't find the book...
>
>     ...but isn't Heimskringla the Norwegian kings anyway? Not necessarily
>accurate for either of the denmarks of the day...
>
>     ...but... I am assuming your date of 950 for the demise of Gorm the 
>old
>is from Harald Bluetooth's stone at Jelling. This is probablt innaccurate,
>as the stone itself is dated, I believe, to 945, and was erected after
>Harald had (we think) exhumed both his parents from their mounds, and
>reburied them under his nice, shiny new church...lovely man, he deserved
>everything he got.
>     According to Gwyn Jones (A History of the Vikings,1990 edition), a
>Harald (son of Harald Klak) and a Horik (son of that Godfred credited with
>the Danevirke barrier) ruled jointly or apart until 827, then Horik ruled
>alone until 853 or 4, when killed in battle.(Harald and his kin made pacts
>with the franks, and ended up with large lumps of Frisia).
>     Horik was succeeded by ....Horik the Younger!!! Soon there was a 
>Viking
>named Rorik calling himself king of southern Jutland, and by 873, the
>brothers Sigfred and Halfdan were known as two Danish kings among many 
>other
>minor ones. Two more kings died in battle in 891, a Sigfred and a
>Godfred...good here, innit?
>     Gorm the Old appears to have risen to some sort of prominence around
>936, but he may not have been alone, for all that the smaller stone at
>Jelling (that he erected to Thyri after her death) makes the first recorded
>use of "Denmark" As I said earlier, the later stone itself dates to around
>945-950, by which time Gorm was dead and his son was claiming to have made
>all the Danes Christian. For myself, I suspect that "Denmark" translates
>more accurately as "Jutland", and that the sea-kings of Sjelland and the
>other islands in the Belt carried on much as before.
>
>     Hope this hasn't muddied the waters too much!
>
>     Regards,
>
>         Hrolf the confused
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Knight" <knight1066@hotmail.com>
>To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
>Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 5:47 AM
>Subject: [Regia-NA] Danish Rulers question.
>
>
> >   I have been doing researching about the ruler(s) of Denmark from 
>around
> > 814 to 890 and cant seem to confirm any information I find. According to
>my
> > copy of the Heimskringla my best bet is king Gorm the old. But according
>to
> > the medieval scandinavia website it's listed as follows:
> > 814-854 Harik I
> >                           854-870 Harik II
> >                           870-890 Halfdan
> >                           890- ?   ?
> >                             ?-950 Gorm the old
> >
> >          Does anyone on the list have any Ideas or information on if 
>this
> > royal line is accurate or not? or can point me in the right direction 
>for
> > further research?
> >                                          thanks for the help.
> >                                            Chris Knight
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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