Hello Nathan, >=20 > Not sure about bothering with that myself. I really don't=20 > know what our provenence is=20 > for it, i will have a chat/heated discussion with steve next=20 > time i see him. Simulating gesso? =20 > Any reason why it wont have ahand in it, is it for demo use only?? >=20 Nope, its a fish-shaped shield ;-p so Scott is going for straps, as per manuscript illustration. Gu=F0rum =20