[Regia-NA] The shield wall

[J K Siddorn]

I know of no merchant or - any other vessel -  from the Viking Age (say 750
1100?) with a transom and stern rudder.

Does anyone else ???


Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
than a free frontal lobotomy!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur" <valhalla_hes@direcway.com>
To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] The shield wall


> Greetings!!
> I have the paperback version of that book. Is the picture of the merchant
ship
> on page 92 correct with its rear mounted rudder and flat back?
>  It does not seem very much like Skuldelev 1, or any other viking ship for
that
> matter.
>
> Thorkel
> __________________________________________
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conall [SMTP:conallwolf@multipro.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:41 PM
> To: list-regia-na@lig.net
> Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] The shield wall
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <wjy851@mail.usask.ca>
>
>
> > I ran across the above article online last week. Does it seem that the
> author is
> > perhaps assigning too much formality and discipline to the Viking Age
> shield
> > wall? Do you think the average 10th century army could effectively pull
> off the
> > different arrangements and layouts?
>
> I have an interesting  book called "The Viking Art of War" by Paddy
> Griffith, Greenhill Books/Lional Leventhal Ltd., London, 1995.  ISBN
> 1-85367-208-4.  Mr. Griffith was a senior lecturer at RMA Sandhurst for
> sixteen years and is apparently a fairly noted author on the history of
> warfare.
>
>     In the book he has examined the sagas, Anglo Saxon Chronicle,
accounts
> of the Battles of Maldon, Hastings, and other contemporary accounts to
> discuss whether the "Vikings" did in fact have any formal military
> organization and if so, what it was.  The author seems to have done his
> research pretty thoroughly, and he argues pretty convincingly that while
the
> Norsemen may not have had the rigid formalized type of military structure
> that we normaly associate with the Romans, they did in fact seem to have
had
> a a relatively standardized type of "basic training" that perhaps
developed
> from a cultural basis rather than from any cohesive government.  Also,
that
> through common tradition and experience they may have evolved a few sets
of
> effective tactics and techniques that may have been somewhat "common
> knowledge" and possibly widely used.
>
>     Just my two silver siggtrygs,
>
>     Conall,
> Going back into the fog.
>
> _______________________________________________
> list-regia-na mailing list
> list-regia-na@lig.net
> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na
>
> _______________________________________________
> list-regia-na mailing list
> list-regia-na@lig.net
> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na
>