[Regia-NA] Working and Decorating Horn

John Shulver list-regia-na@lig.net
Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:03:09 +0100


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MessageModel engineering shows and also their magazines.  Otherwise you =
could 'grit your teeth' and visit a dentist!

Regards

John
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  From: Mike Fuchs=20
  To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
  Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 5:54 AM
  Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Working and Decorating Horn


  John,
  =20
  Thanks for your help, however, where do you get dentists drill bits?
  =20
  =20
  Carrek
  =20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John Shulver [mailto:john.shulver@virgin.net]=20
    Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:28 PM
    To: list-regia-na@lig.net
    Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Working and Decorating Horn


    We have found that a dentists drill bit mounted on a dremel drill =
(small craft power drill) is excellent for decorating horns with.  It =
smellls a bit and if you're squeamish about dentists it's a bit grim!  =
Once you've carved your pattern on, use fine wet and dry paper to take =
off the roughness and fill the pattern in using beeswax coloured with =
ash.

    As for the insides, as long as the marrowbone has been fully removed =
(the best way to remove this is to bury the horn for 6 months - let the =
bugs do the work.) then all we do is whack a couple of baby bottle =
sterilizing tablets in some water and soak for 24 hours - then it's =
ready for whatever drink you wish to fill it with.

    As for designs, I have used designs from illuminated manuscripts, =
rune stones and carvings.

    There is also evidence of metal adornment called horn mounts which =
surrounded the top (open) end of the horn as well as ends.  Examples are =
those found at sutton hoo in suffolk, trewhiddle in cornwall and taplow =
in berkshire.  There are people who make said decorations.

    If you want any more help, just ask!

    Regards

    John the Train


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Mike Fuchs=20
      To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
      Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 6:15 PM
      Subject: [Regia-NA] Working and Decorating Horn


      Does anyone have experience or sources on working horn?  I have a =
small lot of cattle horn that I would like to use for Viking style =
drinking horns and a few horn tips that could be sliced for buttons / =
buckles / belt tips - mounts etc.  However, I have no experience working =
or tooling it.  I would also appreciate any information on how these =
types of items were decorated, how the drinking horns were carried when =
not in use, and how should the inside of the drinking horn be finished =
for use.  Does it need a beeswax or pitch lining or can it be used in =
its' natural state, say after a bit of sanitizing then curing with your =
drink of choice?  All information is greatly appreciated.

      Carrek=20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Model engineering shows and also their=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John</FONT></DIV>
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  <A href=3D"mailto:MFuchs@talx.com" title=3DMFuchs@talx.com>Mike =
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2003 5:54=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D006445104-11102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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  size=3D2>John,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D006445104-11102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>Thanks for your help, however,&nbsp;where do you get dentists =
drill=20
  bits?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D006445104-11102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D006445104-11102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D006445104-11102003><FONT color=3D#0000ff =
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  size=3D2>Carrek</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
John Shulver=20
    [<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:john.shulver@virgin.net">mailto:john.shulver@virgin.net</A=
>]=20
    <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 09, 2003 2:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A =

    =
href=3D"mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net</A><BR><B>Sub=
ject:</B>=20
    Re: [Regia-NA] Working and Decorating Horn<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We have found that a dentists drill =
bit mounted=20
    on a dremel drill (small craft power drill) is excellent for =
decorating=20
    horns with.&nbsp; It smellls a bit and if you're squeamish about =
dentists=20
    it's a bit grim!&nbsp; Once you've carved your pattern on, use fine =
wet and=20
    dry paper to take off the roughness and fill the pattern in using =
beeswax=20
    coloured with ash.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for the insides, as long as the =
marrowbone=20
    has been fully removed (the best way to remove this is to bury the =
horn for=20
    6 months - let the bugs do the work.) then all we do is whack a =
couple of=20
    baby bottle sterilizing tablets in some water and soak for 24 hours =
- then=20
    it's ready for whatever drink you wish to fill it with.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for designs, I have used designs =
from=20
    illuminated manuscripts, rune stones and carvings.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is also evidence of metal =
adornment=20
    called horn mounts which surrounded the top (open) end of the horn =
as well=20
    as ends.&nbsp; Examples are those found at sutton hoo in suffolk, =
trewhiddle=20
    in cornwall and taplow in berkshire.&nbsp; There are people who make =
said=20
    decorations.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you want any more help, just=20
    ask!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John the Train</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <A href=3D"mailto:MFuchs@talx.com" title=3DMFuchs@talx.com>Mike =
Fuchs</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      href=3D"mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net"=20
      title=3Dlist-regia-na@lig.net>list-regia-na@lig.net</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 09, =
2003 6:15=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Regia-NA] Working =
and=20
      Decorating Horn</DIV>
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      <P><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do</FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      size=3D2>es anyone have experience or sources on working =
horn?&nbsp; I have=20
      a small lot of cattle horn that I would like to use for Viking =
style=20
      drinking horns and a few horn tips that could be sliced for =
buttons /=20
      buckles / belt tips - mounts etc.&nbsp; However, I have no =
experience=20
      working or tooling it.&nbsp; I would also appreciate any =
information on=20
      how these types of items were decorated, how the drinking horns =
were=20
      carried when not in use, and how should the inside of the drinking =
horn be=20
      finished for use.&nbsp; Does it need a beeswax or pitch lining or =
can it=20
      be used in its' natural state, say after a bit of sanitizing then =
curing=20
      with your drink of choice?&nbsp; All information is greatly=20
      appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></P>
      <P><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Carrek</FONT></SPAN>=20
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