There is an Irish one, though I've not seen it. I think Siebhyrt posted something on it. I've got the picture of the one from Loch Glashen, Ayrshire, Scotland. Probable 8th century, from a crannog site. --breaker 1-9, Siebhyrt, you got your ears on? come on back now good buddy. Halvgrimr using stupid American trucker lingo cause its just that kinda day;)