[Regia-NA] Swords

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Amen brother!!!

Bill (Leifr)




Message date : Nov 13 2003, 02:59 PM=20
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Yes,=20
very much so. Same goes for axes and spears.


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size=3D2>Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :)


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From: Kathy=20
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Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55
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Subject: Re: [Regia-NA]=20
Swords




I take it from this discussion that the blades used  be Regia =20
are live steel as opposed to the  rattan and duct tape constructions used=
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in SCA   tourneys?


kathy=20

Steve Etheridge=20
wrote:


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d">>From:=20
"Martin Field"=20

>Someone has asked me=20
about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on=20

>these.
>Are they suitable for Regia combat ?

If they=20
are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The=20
blades=20
are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so=20

don't waste your money.

As a general rule, you should be able to=20
bend a decent sword blade and have=20
it spring back into shape. I do it by=20
resting a point on a hard surface,=20
holding the pommel in my hand and=20
leaning down on it. You should feel the=20
blade bending progressively, and=20
as you release the weight, you should feel=20
the spring throughout the=20
whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not=20
shatter or stay bent=20
when struck.

You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a=20
blad e of known=20
quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades=20
will bur, but it is=20
important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask=20
yourself if you would like=20
to be struck by a blade with that sort of=20
burr on it.

You should do at least the first test (for spring) before=20
you by a blade.=20
Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you=20
do it, then walk=20
away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable=20
manufacturer.

To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a=20
blade off of one of=20
the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been=20
tempered properly, and on=20
it's first time out we had to do a showfight=20
for the BBC. I turned it into=20
something resembling a rip-saw. The smith,=20
being a reputable guy, replaced=20
it for free with no hard=20
feelings.

Hope this helps.

Steve

BTW, Martin, I'll send=20
you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a=20
digital=20
camera

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<P>Amen brother!!!</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Bill (Leifr)<BR><BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #ff0=
000 2px solid">Message date : Nov 13 2003, 02:59 PM <BR>From : Nicholson, A=
ndrew <ANDREW.NICHOLSON@DUMGAL.GOV.UK><BR>To : 'list-regia-na@lig.net' <LIS=
T-REGIA-NA@LIG.NET><BR>Copy to : <BR>Subject : RE: [Regia-NA] Swords <BR><B=
R><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D407545714-13112003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff si=
ze=3D2>Yes, <BR>very much so. Same goes for axes and spears.</FONT></SPAN><=
/DIV><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D407545714-13112003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff <b=
r>size=3D2&gt;</FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D407545714-13112003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff <b=
r>size=3D2&gt;Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :)</FONT></SP=
AN></DIV><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D407545714-13112003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff <b=
r>size=3D2&gt;</FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D407545714-13112003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff <b=
r>size=3D2&gt;Gu=F0rum</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D407545714-13112003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff <b=
r>size=3D2&gt;</FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
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r>size=3D2&gt;</FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahom=
a <br>size=3D2&gt;-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Kathy <BR>[mai=
lto:kth62@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 November 2003 14:55<BR><B>To:</B> <=
BR>list-regia-na@lig.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Regia-NA] <BR>Swords<BR><B=
R></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV>I take it from this discussion that the blades used&nbsp; be Regia&nbs=
p; <BR>are live steel as opposed to the&nbsp; rattan and duct tape construc=
tions used <BR>in SCA&nbsp;&nbsp; tourneys?</DIV><BR>
<DIV>kathy <BR><BR><B><I>Steve Etheridge <SEIBHYRT@HOTMAIL.COM></I></B><BR>=
wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq <br>style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px=
; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"&gt;&gt;From: <BR>"Martin Field" <MARFIELD=
66@SYMPATICO.CA><BR><BR>&gt;Someone has asked me <BR>about Paul Chen swords=
 - does anyone have the scoop on <BR><BR>&gt;these.<BR>&gt;Are they suitabl=
e for Regia combat ?<BR><BR>If they <BR>are the swords that I think that th=
ey are, then they are not. The <BR>blades <BR>are of poor quality - I have =
heard of one snapping for no reason - so <BR><BR>don't waste your money.<BR=
><BR>As a general rule, you should be able to <BR>bend a decent sword blade=
 and have <BR>it spring back into shape. I do it by <BR>resting a point on =
a hard surface, <BR>holding the pommel in my hand and <BR>leaning down on i=
t. You should feel the <BR>blade bending progressively, and <BR>as you rele=
ase the weight, you should feel <BR>the spring throughout the <BR>whole bla=
de. This ensures that the blade will not <BR>shatter or stay bent <BR>when =
struck.<BR><BR>You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a <BR>b=
lad e of known <BR>quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades =
<BR>will bur, but it is <BR>important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask =
<BR>yourself if you would like <BR>to be struck by a blade with that sort o=
f <BR>burr on it.<BR><BR>You should do at least the first test (for spring)=
 before <BR>you by a blade. <BR>Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will=
 not let you <BR>do it, then walk <BR>away from the sword - even if it come=
s from a reputable <BR>manufacturer.<BR><BR>To illustrate the point - A fri=
end of mine brought a <BR>blade off of one of <BR>the most well known black=
smiths. It hadn't been <BR>tempered properly, and on <BR>it's first time ou=
t we had to do a showfight <BR>for the BBC. I turned it into <BR>something =
resembling a rip-saw. The smith, <BR>being a reputable guy, replaced <BR>it=
 for free with no hard <BR>feelings.<BR><BR>Hope this helps.<BR><BR>Steve<B=
R><BR>BTW, Martin, I'll send <BR>you some photos of your shield when I can =
dig out a <BR>digital <BR>camera<BR><BR>___________________________________=
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