From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 13:05:22 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 08:05:22 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Mantle question Message-ID: <12b.341b3bcc.2cd7ac92@aol.com> --part1_12b.341b3bcc.2cd7ac92_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 31/10/2003 16:02:00 GMT Standard Time, hawksbluff@yahoo.com writes: > Also, the mantle, being longer (and thus heavier)in > back tends to slip back until the bottom of the > keyhole opening is pressing against my throat. It > seems to me that this would have been a problem in > period, too. Even pinning it to the dress in front > would not keep it in place, it would just pull the > dress up also. How did they manage? Don't know, but I've had the same problem with a heavy mantle. However, I have heard it said that all the illustrations suggest mantles were actually quite lightweight high-ranking items - not outdoor clothing at all ie not a substitute for a cloak. People with lightweight mantles don't seem to have this problem. Aly --part1_12b.341b3bcc.2cd7ac92_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 31/10/2003 16:02:00 GMT Standard Ti= me, hawksbluff@yahoo.com writes:


Also, the mantle, being longer=20= (and thus heavier)in
back tends to slip back until the bottom of the
keyhole opening is pressing against my throat. It
seems to me that this would have been a problem in
period, too. Even pinning it to the dress in front
would not keep it in place, it would just pull the
dress up also. How did they manage?


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Aly --part1_12b.341b3bcc.2cd7ac92_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 15:21:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:21:47 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) Message-ID: <87597c3f.dd04b199.9526100@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Edwina -- Did the lady who wove the shaggy cloak tie those fleece tufts in after weaving it or while weaving it? I did a similar project but I latch-hooked the tufts into already woven fabric. I haven't done in-depth research on the subject (indeed, some of the relevant archaeology hadn't been done yet), but I gather that the effect could have been achieved using a weaving technique similar to velvet weaving, but with much longer nap. Hazel -- I have some flokati rugs that I use on my (later than Regia-period) bed. Will these work for Regia, either as bed rugs or made into cloaks? -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 15:23:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:23:11 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Oh boy oh boy oh boy! Message-ID: <8c5f7f37.dd04d285.817d700@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Hee hee hee! I stumbled across this while looking for something else. Just can't wait to visit. http://www.vikinginn.com/ -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 15:41:37 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 10:41:37 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) References: <87597c3f.dd04b199.9526100@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: My understanding is that the tufts were inserted during the weaving and put in a sort of wrap around the warp threads, which held them in place well enough once the weft was beaten up against them. Latch-hoooking tufts of wool into already-woven fabric is a very clever way to reproduce the effect. Very clever! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: UWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPN To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) > Edwina -- Did the lady who wove the shaggy cloak tie those > fleece tufts in after weaving it or while weaving it? I did > a similar project but I latch-hooked the tufts into already > woven fabric. I haven't done in-depth research on the > subject (indeed, some of the relevant archaeology hadn't been > done yet), but I gather that the effect could have been > achieved using a weaving technique similar to velvet weaving, > but with much longer nap. > > Hazel -- I have some flokati rugs that I use on my (later > than Regia-period) bed. Will these work for Regia, either as > bed rugs or made into cloaks? > > -- Tracie > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 16:26:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Carolyn Priest-Dorman) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:26:20 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) In-Reply-To: <87597c3f.dd04b199.9526100@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031103111742.01b5ba28@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Tracie wrote: >Did the lady who wove the shaggy cloak tie those >fleece tufts in after weaving it or while weaving it? I did >a similar project but I latch-hooked the tufts into already >woven fabric. I haven't done in-depth research on the >subject (indeed, some of the relevant archaeology hadn't been >done yet), but I gather that the effect could have been >achieved using a weaving technique similar to velvet weaving, >but with much longer nap. I've written two articles on this topic. The short version goes like this.... Structurally, velvet is a supplementary warp pile weave for which there is no evidence in Europe until well after the Viking Age. But there are extant pre-Viking Age examples of pile-woven textiles from several English and Frisian sites as well as at Valsgarde, and there are a number of Viking Age examples in locations from Iceland to Sweden and Poland. In the Viking Age, technologically speaking there are three classes of pile-woven textile. Two of them have pile woven into them, and the major difference is that one class uses yarn (a la rya rugs) and the other uses locks of wool (a la shaggy cloak) as the pile. The third class uses pile (unspun or loosely twisted fleece) that has been darned into the textile with a needle. Putting pile in with a latch hook sounds closest to the "darned pile" class of textile, to me. Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 19:10:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Arthur) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:10:07 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Mantle question Message-ID: <01C3A203.6C9AC5F0.valhalla_hes@direcway.com> Hija, What is a burn test and how do you do it. Thanks, Kjartan. ____________________ Matthew 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. -----Original Message----- From: Jan Ward [SMTP:hawksbluff@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 1:24 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Mantle question I don't mind removing the fake fleece. I think I have another, darker, piece of wool that might work with the tan, so I can line it. I'll have to look at it again, and perhaps do a burn test to make sure it's all wool. There is a weaver in the SCA who just recently wove one of those shag cloaks. It was a very long project. I applaud her industry. Tyeing in all those little locks was a job I'm not sure I'd be up for. Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 19:24:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:24:20 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? Message-ID: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> Hey all I'm taking a class right now, English History 1000-1399. Good stuff. We have an essay due in March, we get to pick the topic as long as she pre-approves it. I'm writing, "The Impact of the Norman Conquest on English Warfare". It'll basically be an overview of the thegn & fyrd system vs. the feudal military system, evolution of arms, rise of archery, cavalry & the birth of the Knight, etc. I'm looking for books, she wants us to hand in our essay topic and full bibliography on February 2. I think about ten books would be good; I already have "Campaigns of the Norman Conquest" by Bennett, "Anglo Saxon Weapons and Warfare" by Underwood, and a pretty good copy of The ASC. I'm looking for a couple primary sources from the Norman Era (William I, William II, Henry I, Stephen), or 10th or 11th century English sources (Battle of Maldon?) to paint a clear picture of warfare before the Conquest (infantry, shield walls etc.) Also, good secondary sources would be great. Nothing too obscure, I only have three months to get it through Inter Library Loan. Don't worry if it's a huge tome, even if I can pull out a few quotes that's great. I'm not exactly going into the topic blind. Lastly, she's putting some emphasis on the late Norman introduction of the Chivalric romance, so I should include this (Although it seems to be much more of an Angevin affectation). The earliest Chivalric literature I know of is Raymond Lull. Aside from perhaps the Song of Roland, is there any distinctly Norman chivalric literature? Not trying to get you to do my homework, I'm sure I can find more than enough material on my own. I just thought the members here may be able to point me towards some of the better works in the field. Thanks greatly in advance, ~Wil PS- No articles, please. Perhaps it's just this library, but they seem to take too long to come in. I'm still waiting on a couple articles I ordered at the end of August. From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 20:44:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J Hill) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:44:10 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) References: <5.1.0.14.2.20031103111742.01b5ba28@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Message-ID: <005c01c3a24b$3c6b0780$01fea8c0@yourn3ty7athd5> Carolyn: Would the darned pile work for 1000 AD A-S in Jorvik? Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Priest-Dorman" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) > Tracie wrote: > > >Did the lady who wove the shaggy cloak tie those > >fleece tufts in after weaving it or while weaving it? I did > >a similar project but I latch-hooked the tufts into already > >woven fabric. I haven't done in-depth research on the > >subject (indeed, some of the relevant archaeology hadn't been > >done yet), but I gather that the effect could have been > >achieved using a weaving technique similar to velvet weaving, > >but with much longer nap. > > I've written two articles on this topic. The short version goes like this.... > > Structurally, velvet is a supplementary warp pile weave for which there is > no evidence in Europe until well after the Viking Age. But there are > extant pre-Viking Age examples of pile-woven textiles from several English > and Frisian sites as well as at Valsgarde, and there are a number of Viking > Age examples in locations from Iceland to Sweden and Poland. In the Viking > Age, technologically speaking there are three classes of pile-woven > textile. Two of them have pile woven into them, and the major difference > is that one class uses yarn (a la rya rugs) and the other uses locks of > wool (a la shaggy cloak) as the pile. The third class uses pile (unspun or > loosely twisted fleece) that has been darned into the textile with a needle. > > Putting pile in with a latch hook sounds closest to the "darned pile" class > of textile, to me. > > > Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth > http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 21:35:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:35:08 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Mantle question References: <01C3A203.6C9AC5F0.valhalla_hes@direcway.com> Message-ID: <002601c3a252$5c443de0$5f2d8751@m1w9d8> burn a small piece of fabric..if it goes to ash its natural, if it melts its not... I have been asked to leave some shops for my habit of carrying a lighter even though I don't smoke.:) vara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Mantle question > Hija, > What is a burn test and how do you do it. > > Thanks, > Kjartan. > > ____________________ > Matthew 21:44 > And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: > but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Ward [SMTP:hawksbluff@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 1:24 PM > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Mantle question > > I don't mind removing the fake fleece. I think I have > another, darker, piece of wool that might work with > the tan, so I can line it. I'll have to look at it > again, and perhaps do a burn test to make sure it's > all wool. > There is a weaver in the SCA who just recently wove > one of those shag cloaks. It was a very long project. > I applaud her industry. Tyeing in all those little > locks was a job I'm not sure I'd be up for. > Edwinna > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 22:06:22 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Phil Scott) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:06:22 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? References: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: <032001c3a256$b7f2dda0$c95c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> You MUST look at the work of Stephen Morillo. His "The Battle of Hastings" contains all the primary sources on the battle, plus a detailed interpretation of them. His "Warfare Under the Anglo-Norman Kings, 1066-1135" will provide a wider context. You will also want to look at "Anglo-Norman Warfare" Ed. Matthew Strickland, which is a good collection of articles. You might also want to take a look at "The Normans and Their Adversaries at War" Ed. by Bacharach and Abels (I think), but definitely published by Boydell and Brewer. You might also check to see if your library holds "Anglo-Norman Studies" (sometimes called Proceedings of the Battle Conference on Anglo-Norman Studies), various volumes from 1978 to date; and/or the Journal of the Haskins Society (check out their website at: http://www.haskins.cornell.edu/). Finally, I know you said no articles, but see if you can get hold of History (Journal of the Historical Association - UK) Vol 74, Number 240, Feb 1989. There is an article called "The Mercenary and his Master: Military Service and Monetary Reward in the Eleventh and Twelfth Centuries" by Stephen Brown. If you really can't get a copy e-mail me off the list (make the title something like Norman Mercenaries, otherwise it will probably get deleted as spam) and I'll try and find some time to scan it for you. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? > > > Hey all > > I'm taking a class right now, English History 1000-1399. Good stuff. > > We have an essay due in March, we get to pick the topic as long as she > pre-approves it. I'm writing, "The Impact of the Norman Conquest on English > Warfare". It'll basically be an overview of the thegn & fyrd system vs. the > feudal military system, evolution of arms, rise of archery, cavalry & the birth > of the Knight, etc. > > I'm looking for books, she wants us to hand in our essay topic and full > bibliography on February 2. I think about ten books would be good; I already > have "Campaigns of the Norman Conquest" by Bennett, "Anglo Saxon Weapons and > Warfare" by Underwood, and a pretty good copy of The ASC. > > I'm looking for a couple primary sources from the Norman Era (William I, William > II, Henry I, Stephen), or 10th or 11th century English sources (Battle of > Maldon?) to paint a clear picture of warfare before the Conquest (infantry, > shield walls etc.) > > Also, good secondary sources would be great. Nothing too obscure, I only have > three months to get it through Inter Library Loan. Don't worry if it's a huge > tome, even if I can pull out a few quotes that's great. I'm not exactly going > into the topic blind. > > Lastly, she's putting some emphasis on the late Norman introduction of the > Chivalric romance, so I should include this (Although it seems to be much more > of an Angevin affectation). The earliest Chivalric literature I know of is > Raymond Lull. Aside from perhaps the Song of Roland, is there any distinctly > Norman chivalric literature? > > Not trying to get you to do my homework, I'm sure I can find more than enough > material on my own. I just thought the members here may be able to point me > towards some of the better works in the field. > > Thanks greatly in advance, > > ~Wil > > PS- No articles, please. Perhaps it's just this library, but they seem to take > too long to come in. I'm still waiting on a couple articles I ordered at the end > of August. > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 22:46:49 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Kerr) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:46:49 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? References: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: <001b01c3a25c$5eca19e0$699b08d8@boatanchor> Anglo-Normal Warefare is really good. Also try Anglo-Saxon Militrary Institutions on the Eve of the Norman Conquest by C. Warren Hollister (oxford at the clardendon press, 1962) Chris From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 22:53:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Kerr) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? References: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> <001b01c3a25c$5eca19e0$699b08d8@boatanchor> Message-ID: <004101c3a25d$52e651b0$699b08d8@boatanchor> That was supposed to be Anglo-NORMAN warfare. :) Chris From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 3 23:34:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (nathan) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:34:29 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? In-Reply-To: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: In addition to the ones phil and chirs reccomended, secondary sources ... "Warfare under the anglo-norman kings 1066-1135" Stephen Morillo "Arms and armour of the crusading era (vol 1)" David Nicolle is good for piccys. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On > Behalf Of wjy851@mail.usask.ca > Sent: 03 November 2003 19:24 > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? > > > > > Hey all > > I'm taking a class right now, English History 1000-1399. Good stuff. > > We have an essay due in March, we get to pick the topic as long as she > pre-approves it. I'm writing, "The Impact of the Norman Conquest on English > Warfare". It'll basically be an overview of the thegn & fyrd system vs. the > feudal military system, evolution of arms, rise of archery, cavalry & > the birth > of the Knight, etc. > > I'm looking for books, she wants us to hand in our essay topic and full > bibliography on February 2. I think about ten books would be good; I already > have "Campaigns of the Norman Conquest" by Bennett, "Anglo Saxon Weapons and > Warfare" by Underwood, and a pretty good copy of The ASC. > > I'm looking for a couple primary sources from the Norman Era (William > I, William > II, Henry I, Stephen), or 10th or 11th century English sources (Battle of > Maldon?) to paint a clear picture of warfare before the Conquest (infantry, > shield walls etc.) > > Also, good secondary sources would be great. Nothing too obscure, I only have > three months to get it through Inter Library Loan. Don't worry if it's a huge > tome, even if I can pull out a few quotes that's great. I'm not exactly going > into the topic blind. > > Lastly, she's putting some emphasis on the late Norman introduction of the > Chivalric romance, so I should include this (Although it seems to be much more > of an Angevin affectation). The earliest Chivalric literature I know of is > Raymond Lull. Aside from perhaps the Song of Roland, is there any distinctly > Norman chivalric literature? > > Not trying to get you to do my homework, I'm sure I can find more than enough > material on my own. I just thought the members here may be able to point me > towards some of the better works in the field. > > Thanks greatly in advance, > > ~Wil > > PS- No articles, please. Perhaps it's just this library, but they seem to take > too long to come in. I'm still waiting on a couple articles I ordered > at the end > of August. > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 01:33:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Carolyn Priest-Dorman) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:33:10 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Ruggs (shaggy cloaks) In-Reply-To: <005c01c3a24b$3c6b0780$01fea8c0@yourn3ty7athd5> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20031103111742.01b5ba28@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031103194542.01b84538@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Jennifer/Ælfgifu wrote: >Carolyn: Would the darned pile work for 1000 AD A-S in Jorvik? You betcha. Two Coppergate examples, one from period 4B and the other from "Anglo-Scandinavian levels." Two Lloyd's Bank examples also, both tenth-century. There are two contemporary examples from the Isle of Man as well as a cap fragment from Hedeby. Those of you who have had a paid SCA membership in the East Kingdom for a couple of years might be able to locate your copy of the most recent A&S issue of _Pikestaff_ (circa mid-2001, I think). In that issue is one of my articles on the topic, "Fake Fur and Shag Rugs: Pile Woven and Other Shaggy Textiles in Northwest Europe in the Seventh to Twelfth Centuries." It talks about the darned pile method and describes how to make oneself a perfectly period darned-pile cap. Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 03:13:01 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:13:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Mantle question In-Reply-To: <01C3A203.6C9AC5F0.valhalla_hes@direcway.com> Message-ID: <20031104031301.72794.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Take a very small snippet of yarn or fabric and set a match to it. I usually do it out of doors or over a tin can on my stove under the range hood. Both the smell and the residue can give you clues as to the composition. Wool smells like hair. Cotton and linen are cellulose and smell something like paper. Synthetics smell like toxic waste. Well, maybe not quite that bad, but they have a harsh, acrid, sometimes vinegary smell, depending on the synthetic. Cotton and linen burn to ash. Cotton burns quickly. Wool burns more slowly, and tends to self-extinguish when you remove the flame. synthetics melt into a hard bead. Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 04:27:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:27:47 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Design your own Bayeax Tapestry Message-ID: <842b791a.dd4cb3b2.930ad00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Something cool plucked off another list. Have fun! http://www.adgame-wonderland.de/type/bayeux.php -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 07:25:43 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:25:43 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Oh boy oh boy oh boy! References: <8c5f7f37.dd04d285.817d700@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: <002c01c3a2a4$dd479ca0$2c4d8751@m1w9d8> Last time I went to one of these as a punter, they didn't want to let me in. Something about showing up the actors...dunno why, they asked if anyone wanted to play love-taps and I had my sword on me at the time... Hrolf the Disappointed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracie Brown" To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Oh boy oh boy oh boy! > Hee hee hee! I stumbled across this while looking for > something else. Just can't wait to visit. > > http://www.vikinginn.com/ > > -- Tracie > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 09:34:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:34:28 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? References: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: <075901c3a2b6$d7c11a10$40712052@kim1> I suggest Abels book "Lordship and Military Obligation in Anglo-Saxon England.", A British Museum publication. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? > > > Hey all > > I'm taking a class right now, English History 1000-1399. Good stuff. > > We have an essay due in March, we get to pick the topic as long as she > pre-approves it. I'm writing, "The Impact of the Norman Conquest on English > Warfare". It'll basically be an overview of the thegn & fyrd system vs. the > feudal military system, evolution of arms, rise of archery, cavalry & the birth > of the Knight, etc. > > I'm looking for books, she wants us to hand in our essay topic and full > bibliography on February 2. I think about ten books would be good; I already > have "Campaigns of the Norman Conquest" by Bennett, "Anglo Saxon Weapons and > Warfare" by Underwood, and a pretty good copy of The ASC. > > I'm looking for a couple primary sources from the Norman Era (William I, William > II, Henry I, Stephen), or 10th or 11th century English sources (Battle of > Maldon?) to paint a clear picture of warfare before the Conquest (infantry, > shield walls etc.) > > Also, good secondary sources would be great. Nothing too obscure, I only have > three months to get it through Inter Library Loan. Don't worry if it's a huge > tome, even if I can pull out a few quotes that's great. I'm not exactly going > into the topic blind. > > Lastly, she's putting some emphasis on the late Norman introduction of the > Chivalric romance, so I should include this (Although it seems to be much more > of an Angevin affectation). The earliest Chivalric literature I know of is > Raymond Lull. Aside from perhaps the Song of Roland, is there any distinctly > Norman chivalric literature? > > Not trying to get you to do my homework, I'm sure I can find more than enough > material on my own. I just thought the members here may be able to point me > towards some of the better works in the field. > > Thanks greatly in advance, > > ~Wil > > PS- No articles, please. Perhaps it's just this library, but they seem to take > too long to come in. I'm still waiting on a couple articles I ordered at the end > of August. > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 15:52:15 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? Message-ID: <13f5738c.dd8b5d87.992fc00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> >Anglo-Normal Warefare is really good. Or as my friend Merowald would say, "Ni Normani, ni normali" (Neither Norman nor normal). -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 4 22:51:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Bruce Truman) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:51:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Oh boy oh boy oh boy! In-Reply-To: <002c01c3a2a4$dd479ca0$2c4d8751@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031104225106.73533.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, If you ever get to Minnesota go see Steiner and his crew. They put quite a show. Not to mention the food. They do tone it down for kids. They serve food fit for a --Well A Viking. Bruce Truman --- Hrolf Douglasson wrote: > Last time I went to one of these as a punter, they > didn't want to let me in. > Something about showing up the actors...dunno why, > they asked if anyone > wanted to play love-taps and I had my sword on me at > the time... > > Hrolf the Disappointed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracie Brown" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:23 PM > Subject: [Regia-NA] Oh boy oh boy oh boy! > > > > Hee hee hee! I stumbled across this while looking > for > > something else. Just can't wait to visit. > > > > http://www.vikinginn.com/ > > > > -- Tracie > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 6 15:55:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Barbie! Message-ID: <5a15ee9f.de934df9.8284b00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Here's the good news: the box describes her as having long blonde braids, the daughter of a jarl, living in a longhouse in a Danish village, playing hnefatafl, skating and skiing, listening to skalds reciting sagas. There's a reasonably historically informed illustration of a Viking lass on skates (probably from a European source). The bad news: "Princess of the Vikings Barbie" has long blonde braids, a winged helmet, a form-fitting scale breastplate, complete with brass brassiere, a white chiffon undergown with "interesting" hanging sleeves, overlaid by gold mesh. And a sword. Under $20 at WalMart. There's also a medievalish Irish Princess Barbie, a Princess of the Danish Court who looks like she's wearing one of Anne of Denmark's 17c outfits, and a Princess of the Portuguese Empire who looks like she's supposed to be 16c. If you go to the web site www.barbietravel.com and click around you will find Viking Barbie's biography, which indicates that someone at Mattel did some research, even if it wasn't the costume designer. Ah, well... -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 5 23:04:22 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 23:04:22 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hedeby dress fragments: date? Message-ID: <001201c3a3f1$2e6dcee0$b50a8751@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3A3F1.284719E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, Hrolf here. Var is experimenting with the reconstructed = hangerroc based on the fragment found as ship-caulking at Hedeby. Does = anyone have any idea of a date for the ship it was helping hold = together, and thus a cut-off date for this particular garment? I'm = looking, but I haven't found it yet, and search time is limited (who put = that life in the way??) Thanks for any information. Regards, Hrolf the undated (even by dendrochronology) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3A3F1.284719E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks, Hrolf here. Var is = experimenting with the=20 reconstructed hangerroc based on the fragment found as ship-caulking at = Hedeby.=20 Does anyone have any idea of a date for the ship it was helping hold = together,=20 and thus a cut-off date for this particular garment? I'm looking, but I = haven't=20 found it yet, and search time is limited (who put that life in the=20 way??)
 
Thanks for any = information.
 
Regards,
 
Hrolf the undated (even by=20 dendrochronology)
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3A3F1.284719E0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 14:36:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 14:36:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Barbie! In-Reply-To: <5a15ee9f.de934df9.8284b00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20031107143600.3014.qmail@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-726199394-1068215760=:2348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A 38 year old bloke with a daughter & another on the way needs to know about these sites coz as sure as eggs is eggs i'm going to have to fork out for these dolls in the near future,sheesh! Regards, Mik Tracie Brown wrote: Here's the good news: the box describes her as having long blonde braids, the daughter of a jarl, living in a longhouse in a Danish village, playing hnefatafl, skating and skiing, listening to skalds reciting sagas. There's a reasonably historically informed illustration of a Viking lass on skates (probably from a European source). The bad news: "Princess of the Vikings Barbie" has long blonde braids, a winged helmet, a form-fitting scale breastplate, complete with brass brassiere, a white chiffon undergown with "interesting" hanging sleeves, overlaid by gold mesh. And a sword. Under $20 at WalMart. There's also a medievalish Irish Princess Barbie, a Princess of the Danish Court who looks like she's wearing one of Anne of Denmark's 17c outfits, and a Princess of the Portuguese Empire who looks like she's supposed to be 16c. If you go to the web site www.barbietravel.com and click around you will find Viking Barbie's biography, which indicates that someone at Mattel did some research, even if it wasn't the costume designer. Ah, well... -- Tracie _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-726199394-1068215760=:2348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
A 38 year old bloke with a daughter & another on the way needs to know about these sites coz as sure as eggs is eggs i'm going to have to fork out for these dolls in the near future,sheesh!
Regards,
Mik

Tracie Brown <trbrown@uga.edu> wrote:
Here's the good news: the box describes her as having long
blonde braids, the daughter of a jarl, living in a longhouse
in a Danish village, playing hnefatafl, skating and skiing,
listening to skalds reciting sagas. There's a reasonably
historically informed illustration of a Viking lass on skates
(probably from a European source).

The bad news: "Princess of the Vikings Barbie" has long
blonde braids, a winged helmet, a form-fitting scale
breastplate, complete with brass brassiere, a white chiffon
undergown with "interesting" hanging sleeves, overlaid by
gold mesh. And a sword.

Under $20 at WalMart. There's also a medievalish Irish
Princess Barbie, a Princess of the Danish Court who looks
like she's wearing one of Anne of Denmark's 17c outfits, and
a Princess of the Portuguese Empire who looks like she's
supposed to be 16c.

If you go to the web site www.barbietravel.com and click
around you will find Viking Barbie's biography, which
indicates that someone at Mattel did some research, even if
it wasn't the costume designer. Ah, well...

-- Tracie
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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-726199394-1068215760=:2348-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 15:37:21 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:37:21 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Barbie! Message-ID: Let me guess: when you pull and release the string at the back of her neck she sings "Ho yo to ho!" :) >From: Tracie Brown >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Barbie! >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:55:17 -0500 > >The bad news: "Princess of the Vikings Barbie" has long >blonde braids, a winged helmet, a form-fitting scale >breastplate, complete with brass brassiere, a white chiffon >undergown with "interesting" hanging sleeves, overlaid by >gold mesh. And a sword. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 16:42:31 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Brett W. McCoy) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:42:31 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT: Looking for Tom Sweeting aka Snorri Message-ID: <3FABCB77.50601@chapelperilous.net> Sorry for posting this to the list, but I've lost Tom's email address and need him to contact me privately when he can. -- Brett http://www.chapelperilous.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. -- Anonymous From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 6 20:23:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:23:13 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations- Thank you In-Reply-To: <032001c3a256$b7f2dda0$c95c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> References: <1067887460.3fa6ab64c4f99@webmail.usask.ca> <032001c3a256$b7f2dda0$c95c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> Message-ID: <1068150193.3faaadb1ce703@webmail.usask.ca> Hey All I found Anglo Saxon Military Institutions by Hollister and Warfare under the Anglo Norman Kings by Morillo. I didn't find Anglo Norman Warfare by Strickland, but I did find another book of his, War and Chivalry: The Conduct and Perception of War In England and Normandy 1066 to 1217. Looks like it will be useful. I addition to what was listed, I found a couple more: Warfare in England 1066 to 1189 by John Beeler and The English Nobility under Edward The Confessor by Peter A. Clarke. Haven't read them yet, but I thought I'd throw them out there if anyone was interested. Thanks for the help all, ~Wil From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 5 19:02:51 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:02:51 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? In-Reply-To: <13f5738c.dd8b5d87.992fc00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> References: <13f5738c.dd8b5d87.992fc00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: <1068058971.3fa9495bd3186@webmail.usask.ca> Thanks folks, a great selection. I'm going to plug into the university library system and start tracking these down. ~Wil From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 17:32:27 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:32:27 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? References: <13f5738c.dd8b5d87.992fc00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> <1068058971.3fa9495bd3186@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: <000f01c3a555$1d0a3fc0$57722052@kim1> You might - he said diffidently - try my book, "Viking Weapons and Warfare" Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? > Thanks folks, a great selection. I'm going to plug into the university library > system and start tracking these down. > > ~Wil > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 17:50:34 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:50:34 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? Message-ID: <20031107175034.RZPN11704.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> How that you mention this title you might consider 'leaning' on Tempus Publishers as it has been ridiculously difficult to obtain multiple copies any Tempus titles here in Canada - the enterprise Tempus has selected as their Canadian distributor are not up to the job and I have done all I can to politely notify both them and the UK offices. All the best Martin > > From: "J K Siddorn" > Date: 2003/11/07 Fri PM 12:32:27 EST > To: > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? > > You might - he said diffidently - try my book, "Viking Weapons and Warfare" > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 7:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Book recommendations? > > > > Thanks folks, a great selection. I'm going to plug into the university > library > > system and start tracking these down. > > > > ~Wil > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 18:47:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 10:47:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings Message-ID: <20031107184739.69466.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1807343214-1068230859=:69402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch and there were Canadians involved as well.. I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . My persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach I just discovered this list after  visiting the main Regia Anglorum site..   I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch and there were Canadians involved as well..
I am currently a member of the SCA  out here in British Columbia.. (Lionsgate/Vancouver)  and quite interested in medieval time frame . My persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman..
I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list
 
Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1807343214-1068230859=:69402-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 20:01:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:01:47 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: <5A2DC495.50B46E92.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Greetings, Has anyone looked at this site: http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm Is this information ok, out of date, whatever? Does onyone know if the original thesis had pictures or line drawings with it and if it did how do I get a copy? Is anyone else still having trouble with the Yahoo Regia site? I don't get some emails, get the replys before I get the originals, get some email days later. thanks, Eileen (who is being awakened at what is for her, midnight, every morning by the workers who are putting up a block wall.) __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 20:20:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 12:20:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery In-Reply-To: <5A2DC495.50B46E92.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Message-ID: <20031107202014.72437.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-789842392-1068236414=:71492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings Eileen.. which Yahoo Regia site are you referring to? did not know there was one.. And where do you hail from pray tell Catriona in BC Eileen Young wrote: Greetings, Has anyone looked at this site: http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm Is this information ok, out of date, whatever? Does onyone know if the original thesis had pictures or line drawings with it and if it did how do I get a copy? Is anyone else still having trouble with the Yahoo Regia site? I don't get some emails, get the replys before I get the originals, get some email days later. thanks, Eileen (who is being awakened at what is for her, midnight, every morning by the workers who are putting up a block wall.) __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-789842392-1068236414=:71492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Greetings Eileen.. which Yahoo Regia site are you referring to? did not know there was one.. 
And where do you hail from pray tell
Catriona in BC

Eileen Young <JuditheileenY@netscape.net> wrote:
Greetings,

Has anyone looked at this site: http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm

Is this information ok, out of date, whatever? Does onyone know if the original thesis had pictures or line drawings with it and if it did how do I get a copy?

Is anyone else still having trouble with the Yahoo Regia site? I don't get some emails, get the replys before I get the originals, get some email days later.

thanks,
Eileen (who is being awakened at what is for her, midnight, every morning by the workers who are putting up a block wall.)

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-789842392-1068236414=:71492-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 7 23:22:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:22:57 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings References: <20031107184739.69466.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701c3a586$16c1b4a0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C3A55C.2B2AB7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello & Welcome Kathy ! Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and = our growing presence in North America. As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate = email to you which will include two accompanying introductory = attachments. All the best Martin Field ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum = site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American = branch and there were Canadians involved as well.. I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. = (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . My = persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach
Hello & Welcome Kathy = !
Glad to hear from you and learn of your = interest in=20 Regia Anglorum and our growing presence in North America.
As the North American membership = officer I will be=20 sending a seperate email to you which will include = two accompanying introductory = attachments.
All the best
Martin Field
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 = 1:47=20 PM
Subject: [Regia-NA] = Greetings

I just discovered this list after  visiting the main Regia = Anglorum=20 site..   I was quite delighted to learn there was a North = American=20 branch and there were Canadians involved as well..
I am currently a member of the SCA  out here in British = Columbia..=20 (Lionsgate/Vancouver)  and quite interested in medieval time = frame . My=20 persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young = Norseman..
I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list
 
Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach
<kathy)

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C3A55C.2B2AB7E0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 8 00:45:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT: Looking for Tom Sweeting aka Snorri References: <3FABCB77.50601@chapelperilous.net> Message-ID: <001401c3a591$a52c7120$7900a8c0@field> Hi Brett I've forwarded your request on to Tom so he should be getting back to you sometime soon. All the best Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett W. McCoy" To: Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] OT: Looking for Tom Sweeting aka Snorri > Sorry for posting this to the list, but I've lost Tom's email address > and need him to contact me privately when he can. > > -- Brett > http://www.chapelperilous.net/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Never be afraid to tell the world who you are. > -- Anonymous > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 8 07:04:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:04:36 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: <521DD208.3E8D0752.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Catriona The Yahoo list is for members and I live in the Phoenix, AZ area. Eileen Kathy wrote: >Greetings Eileen.. which Yahoo Regia site are you referring to? did not know there was one..   >And where do you hail from pray tell >Catriona in BC > >Eileen Young wrote: >Greetings, > >Has anyone looked at this site: http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm > >Is this information ok, out of date, whatever? Does onyone know if the original thesis had pictures or line drawings with it and if it did how do I get a copy? > >Is anyone else still having trouble with the Yahoo Regia site? I don't get some emails, get the replys before I get the originals, get some email days later. > >thanks, >Eileen (who is being awakened at what is for her, midnight, every morning by the workers who are putting up a block wall.) > __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 8 08:07:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (guthroth) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 08:07:06 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Event announcement References: Message-ID: <009101c3a5d0$703c81a0$aa878351@user> Greetings Although it is not a Regia event, I would like to extend an invitation to the readers of this list to an open Viking-age event which is being held early next year. In January 2004 (Martin Luther King holiday weekend) a re-enactment Althing is being held at Savernake near San Antonio Tx, http://www.savernake.org In conjunction with the event, which is being hosted by the Helluland Vikings, 2 qualified UK Training Officers (again, not Regia officers) are coming over to continue the steel training program which was begun last June in Kansas City. This time the steel combat training is being combined with an Althing-style meeting to which all US and Canadian Viking-age, steel combat, authentic re-enactment groups are invited to meet, discuss and get to know each other so that a greater bond of friendship might develop between them. In addition, any existing steel weapon qualifiers or qualified fighters who are able to come down to meet us would be more than welcome, and we would especially welcome the chance to exchange ideas and see how fighting styles differ on a face-to-face basis. There is a website here http://www.thealthing.org/ Since this is not a Regia event, if you wish, you can email me off-list at guthroth@btinternet.com for more information. Guðroð Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 8 09:52:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:52:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Yahoo groups bouncing mail{ot} Message-ID: <20031108095244.93637.qmail@web25001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-185793089-1068285164=:92985 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It might be worth everyone checking thier e group mail settings?A couple of days ago my wife got mail from yahoo saying that a lot of her mail was bouncing so they turned off her groups e mail,today i got the same thing.If you are having problems with your yahoo mail that might be worth a check? 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It might be worth everyone checking thier e group mail settings?A couple of days ago my wife got mail from yahoo saying that a lot of her mail was bouncing so they turned off her groups e mail,today i got the same thing.If you are having problems with your yahoo mail that might be worth a check?
Regards,
Mik


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-185793089-1068285164=:92985-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 9 12:31:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 07:31:29 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Fortifications in Wessex c. =?windows-1252?Q?800=961066?= Message-ID: <3FAE33A1.3020705@bellsouth.net> http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/title_detail.php?title=S6399 A couple years too late for Wychurst but you could always start over, eh? wot? Magnus }:) From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 9 13:15:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:15:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings In-Reply-To: <001701c3a586$16c1b4a0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031109131536.9215.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1803583399-1068383736=:8528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks, Martin.. I got the other messages just fine. Sounds quite fascinating.. Kathy Martin Field wrote: Hello & Welcome Kathy ! Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and our growing presence in North America. As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate email to you which will include two accompanying introductory attachments. All the best Martin Field ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch and there were Canadians involved as well.. I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . My persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach Thanks, Martin.. I got the other messages just fine.   Sounds quite fascinating..
Kathy

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Hello & Welcome Kathy !
Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and our growing presence in North America.
As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate email to you which will include two accompanying introductory attachments.
All the best
Martin Field
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM
Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings

I just discovered this list after  visiting the main Regia Anglorum site..   I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch and there were Canadians involved as well..
I am currently a member of the SCA  out here in British Columbia.. (Lionsgate/Vancouver)  and quite interested in medieval time frame . My persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman..
I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list
 
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1803583399-1068383736=:8528-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 10 02:02:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 21:02:50 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery References: <521DD208.3E8D0752.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Message-ID: <3FAEF1CA.8040100@bellsouth.net> Eileen Young wrote: > Catriona The Yahoo list is for members and I live in the Phoenix, AZ > area. Eileen > > Kathy wrote: > > >> Greetings Eileen.. which Yahoo Regia site are you referring to? did >> not know there was one.. And where do you hail from pray tell >> Catriona in BC >> >> Eileen Young wrote: Greetings, >> >> Has anyone looked at this site: >> http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm >> >> Is this information ok, out of date, whatever? Does onyone know if >> the original thesis had pictures or line drawings with it and if it >> did how do I get a copy? >> >> Is anyone else still having trouble with the Yahoo Regia site? I >> don't get some emails, get the replys before I get the originals, >> get some email days later. >> >> thanks, Eileen (who is being awakened at what is for her, midnight, >> every morning by the workers who are putting up a block wall.) Consider yourself very lucky. As a child with asthma and pneumonia I was in the hospital and all day everyday that week we had a bulldozer just outside tearing up the sidewalk around the hospital by dropping the dozer blade on it and then crumpling it up, after which he started on the asphalt parking lot outside. I eventually outgrew the asthma, at least as long as certain allergens don't show up in my neighborhood. Similarly my wife worked at the NCSU library for 35 years and they spent two solid years driving poles into the ground to support the new tower wing right outside her window. This shook the whole building and brickyard. Then they cut through the sewer and water lines there doing additional excavations for the enlarge HVAC system that is in the cavernous basements. It's an eleven floor building. When Fort Pulaski was built by Robert E. Lee on a tidal marsh fifteen miles east of Savannah they sunk 17,000 tree trunks by hand to support the moated huge brick fort. It took only two days of bombardment with the new rifled cannons to reduce one wall to the point they were about to launch a massive infantry attack. They surrendered because the bombardment was about to penetrate the trees and earth also covering the brick covered powder magazines. One man was killed on either side. Took from 1833 to 1847 to build. Fixed fortifications were a pretty much excercise in futility after that. Although Fort Wagner, built of sand wasn't taken, Fort Fisher, built of sand was after a combination sea bombardment and infantry assault. http://www.nps.gov/fopu/ http://www.nps.gov/fopu/pulaskione/Templates/INDEX%20two.htm http://www.nps.gov/fopu/pulaskione/Templates/Culturalresources.dwt I used to spend my teenage years on the SC/N GA coasts. Lots of entrenchments and actual forts there. Our version of castles up until the robber barons built places like the Biltmore House, America's largest castle, a bit over twenty or more miles from my home. Looks like a huge French Gothic Chateau on 20,000 acres in the NC mountains. It costs $38 to get in now. I used to take dates there back when. http://www.biltmore.com/ http://www.biltmore.com/visit/image_gallery/slide_show.html Renovation and enlargement can be fun. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 10 14:30:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Horn, Trisha D.) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:30:56 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings Message-ID: Would it be possible for me to get those, as well? Raghnailt > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Field [SMTP:marfield66@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 17:23 > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > Hello & Welcome Kathy ! > Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and our > growing presence in North America. > As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate > email to you which will include two accompanying introductory > attachments. > All the best > Martin Field > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathy > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM > Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum > site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch > and there were Canadians involved as well.. > I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. > (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . My > persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. > I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list > > Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach > > > _____ > > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > > ********* Email Confidentiality Statement ********* Visit http://www.saintfrancis.com/emailconf.asp From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 04:07:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:07:45 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] helmet for sale Message-ID: <20031111040745.11454.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Hi, all. A local (i.e. NW Oregon) armourer named Shawn has a helmet for sale; I took some photos and put them up on the web for him: http://members.armourarchive.org/~albrecht/helmet1.jpg http://members.armourarchive.org/~albrecht/helmet2.jpg http://members.armourarchive.org/~albrecht/helmet3.jpg It's made of 14 g. cold-rolled steel, with brass rivets and brass on the nasal. He's asking $175 + shipping/handling. Email him at falcon_skyhunter@hotmail.com if you're interested in the helmet or if you have any questions... Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 11:53:46 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Boulton) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:53:46 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] helmet for sale References: <20031111040745.11454.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Message-ID: <008701c3a84a$76b5ad50$4c456051@duron800> > http://members.armourarchive.org/~albrecht/helmet1.jpg Hmm...lose the brass rivets and replace them with iron ones, get rid of the brass bit on the nasal, and you'll have a good helmet there. Chris. From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 19:28:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:28:10 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Fw: new Medieval sale books from DBBC Message-ID: This list is severely edited down to those books that I thought were applicable to Anglo-Saxon/Norse interests. If this is spam for you, I beg your pardon. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: HPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYL To: Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:43 PM Subject: new Medieval sale books from DBBC > We just acquired some Boydell & Brewer titles at great prices. They are in > limited supply and the prices are really attractive. > > A list is given below. > Sincerely, > > Ian Stevens > The David Brown Book Company > Toll-free 1-800-791-9354 > > > 'Humour in Anglo-Saxon Literature' - edited by Jonathan Wilcox > List Price: US$ 72.00 * Our Price: US$ 19.98 * > Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=24932&MID=9941 > > 'Imagining the Anglo-Saxon Past' - by Eric Gerald Stanley > List Price: US$ 60.00 * Our Price: US$ 19.98 * > Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=28958&MID=9941 > 'Norse Romance: I The Tristan Legend' - edited by Marianne E Kalinke > List Price: US$ 90.00 * Our Price: US$ 19.98 * > Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=23711&MID=9941 > > 'Old English Poetic Metre' - by B R Hutcheson > List Price: US$ 99.00 * Our Price: US$ 19.98 * > Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=10356&MID=9941 > 'Saint Bride and Her Book: Brigitta of Sweden's Revelations' - > List Price: US$ 24.95 * Our Price: US$ 7.98 * > Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=38467&MID=9941 > > 'St Birgitta of Sweden' - by Bridget Morris > List Price: US$ 60.00 * Our Price: US$ 19.98 * > Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=23702&MID=9941 From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 19:39:32 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:39:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Book of possible interest to the fighters In-Reply-To: <5a15ee9f.de934df9.8284b00@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: <20031111193932.38174.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> I got on the list to receive notification of sale books from David Brown Book Co. (That's Oxbow Books in America). This came in today, listing some they have from Boydell and Brewer Books: The Lords of Battle by Stephen S. Evans An examination of the image of the comitatus, or warband, as it is portrayed in literary and historical sources from Britain's early medieval period - celtic and Anglo-Saxon. Through an extensive use of a variety of source material, literary, historical, and archaeological, the book investigates the structure of the warband, its place in society, and the practices and institutions which supported it. 184p (Boydell 1997, Pb 1998) ISBN 0851156622. Paperback. Publishers price Sorry, the price got cut off. I think publisher's price was 29.95, and sale price something like $7.95. There were several others of possible interest in other subjects, such as poetry, lives of women saints, etc. Unfortunately, I've already got an order in that will have to be my Christmas present:-) Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 19:42:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Fw: new Medieval sale books from DBBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031111194244.40300.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> Charlotte, I can see you and I are spending our money in the same place! Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 21:01:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:01:16 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! Message-ID: <007801c3a896$f2df7f40$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C3A86D.09CF7B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is either = very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report has = someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person = mentioned $30.00 U.S ). I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC Laine = Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA = members. 11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc) 15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc) I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in = Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it = laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for = RANA members only. All the best Martin ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C3A86D.09CF7B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As a result of some members mentioning = that the DMC=20 color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( = the=20 latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and = another=20 person mentioned $30.00 U.S ).
I have opened up a merchant account = with DMC and=20 now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost = plus=20 postage for RANA members.
11.50 + 3.00 U.S.=20 (Postage etc)
15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage = etc)
I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural = dye listing=20 that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC = color card=20 and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - = again=20 for RANA members only.
All the best
Martin
 
------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C3A86D.09CF7B80-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 21:01:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Aussie legwraps Message-ID: for those that got in on the order, they are done and ready to be = shipped upon receipt of the final amount. I am sending the final amount = off this weekend. I will let you all know when they have arrived and contact you about = shipping addy's thanks for being patient with me on this Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 21:07:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jon Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:07:19 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! In-Reply-To: <007801c3a896$f2df7f40$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C3A897.CB2762F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have a look on http://members.regia.org for that list too :o) Jon -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Martin Field Sent: 11 November 2003 21:01 To: REGIA ANGLORUM NA Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ). I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA members. 11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc) 15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc) I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for RANA members only. All the best Martin --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.536 / Virus Database: 331 - Release Date: 03/11/2003 ------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C3A897.CB2762F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have a look on http://members.regia.org for that = list too=20 :o)
 
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From: = list-regia-na-admin@lig.net=20 [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Martin=20 Field
Sent: 11 November 2003 21:01
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Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards = !

As a result of some members = mentioning that the=20 DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very = expensive (=20 the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US = and=20 another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ).
I have opened up a merchant account = with DMC and=20 now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at = cost plus=20 postage for RANA members.
11.50 + 3.00 U.S.=20 (Postage etc)
15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage = etc)
I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural = dye listing=20 that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC = color card=20 and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie = - again=20 for RANA members only.
All the best
Martin
 
------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C3A897.CB2762F0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 21:18:51 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:18:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! In-Reply-To: <007801c3a896$f2df7f40$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031111211851.48025.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1551052268-1068585531=:45469 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmm those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If we are talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the corresponding colors for.. ahh.. cant recall the other brand.. for less that $20 CDN.. I am not %100 percent certain of this of course, but i could check it out if any one is interested Kathy Martin Field wrote: As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ). I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA members. 11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc) 15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc) I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for RANA members only. All the best Martin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1551052268-1068585531=:45469 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hmm  those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If we are talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the corresponding   colors for..  ahh.. cant recall the other brand.. for less that $20 CDN..  I am not %100 percent certain of this of course, but i could check it out if any one is interested
Kathy

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ).
I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA members.
11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc)
15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc)
I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for RANA members only.
All the best
Martin
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1551052268-1068585531=:45469-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 11 22:56:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:56:57 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! References: <20031111211851.48025.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c3a8a7$1bfee400$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3A87D.32CBC7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kathy You are right - I can get them here in Oshawa, Ontario for between $20 = retail + tax. It is just that DMC is hard to come by and at an affordable price in = some regions of North America according to what I have been informed by = both people and the trade. All the best Martin ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! Hmm those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If we are = talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the = corresponding colors for.. ahh.. cant recall the other brand.. for = less that $20 CDN.. I am not %100 percent certain of this of course, = but i could check it out if any one is interested Kathy=20 Martin Field wrote: As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is = either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report = has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person = mentioned $30.00 U.S ). I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC = Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA = members. 11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc) 15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc) I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in = Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it = laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for = RANA members only. All the best Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3A87D.32CBC7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Kathy
You are right - I can get them here in = Oshawa,=20 Ontario for between $20 retail + tax.
It is just that DMC is hard to come by = and at an=20 affordable price in some regions of North America according to what I = have been=20 informed by both people and the trade.
All the best
Martin
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, = 2003 4:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC = Color Cards=20 !

Hmm  those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If = we are=20 talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the=20 corresponding   colors for..  ahh.. cant recall the = other=20 brand.. for less that $20 CDN..  I am not %100 percent certain of = this of=20 course, but i could check it out if any one is interested
Kathy

Martin Field = <marfield66@sympatico.ca>=20 wrote:
As a result of some members = mentioning that the=20 DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very = expensive (=20 the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US = and=20 another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ).
I have opened up a merchant account = with DMC=20 and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available = at cost=20 plus postage for RANA members.
11.50 + 3.00 U.S.=20 (Postage etc)
15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage=20 etc)
I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's = natural dye=20 listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against = this DMC=20 color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card = as a=20 freebie - again for RANA members only.
All the best
Martin
 

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C3A87D.32CBC7E0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 00:07:35 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:07:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a8a7$1bfee400$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031112000735.8379.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-184187610-1068595655=:3972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Martin.. since i have only recently.. ie the last year or two.. i am no expert on the subject of availability of DMC or any other form of embroidery floss.. I do know that the local branch of Lewiscraft has a fair selection and so far i have been able to get any colors i want.. and at a reasonable price.. Next time i am in there i will price their color cards and let you know the costs.. Was it you that mentioned you had a merchants account with DMC??? lucky you.. and that should make you very very popular with the embroiders on this list.. best wishes kathy Martin Field wrote: Hi Kathy You are right - I can get them here in Oshawa, Ontario for between $20 retail + tax. It is just that DMC is hard to come by and at an affordable price in some regions of North America according to what I have been informed by both people and the trade. All the best Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! Hmm those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If we are talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the corresponding colors for.. ahh.. cant recall the other brand.. for less that $20 CDN.. I am not %100 percent certain of this of course, but i could check it out if any one is interested Kathy Martin Field wrote: As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ). I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA members. 11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc) 15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc) I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for RANA members only. All the best Martin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-184187610-1068595655=:3972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Martin..  since i have only recently.. ie the last year or two..  i am no expert on the subject of availability of DMC or any other form of embroidery floss..  I do know that the local branch of Lewiscraft has a fair selection and so far i have been able to  get any colors i want.. and at a reasonable price..  Next time i am in there  i will price their color cards and let you know the costs..
 
Was it you that mentioned you had a  merchants account with DMC???   lucky you.. and that should make you very very popular with the embroiders on this list.. <g>
 
best wishes
kathy

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Hi Kathy
You are right - I can get them here in Oshawa, Ontario for between $20 retail + tax.
It is just that DMC is hard to come by and at an affordable price in some regions of North America according to what I have been informed by both people and the trade.
All the best
Martin
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards !

Hmm  those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If we are talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the corresponding   colors for..  ahh.. cant recall the other brand.. for less that $20 CDN..  I am not %100 percent certain of this of course, but i could check it out if any one is interested
Kathy

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another person mentioned $30.00 U.S ).
I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for RANA members.
11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc)
15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc)
I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for RANA members only.
All the best
Martin
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-184187610-1068595655=:3972-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 00:54:22 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:54:22 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! References: <20031112000735.8379.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001a01c3a8b7$83693ea0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3A88D.9A487200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kathy I only really established a merchants account with DMC for people = expressing difficulty in obtaining the colour card - well, if there is = demand for other DMC products then we'll have to see ..... Cheers Martin ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! Hi Martin.. since i have only recently.. ie the last year or two.. i = am no expert on the subject of availability of DMC or any other form of = embroidery floss.. I do know that the local branch of Lewiscraft has a = fair selection and so far i have been able to get any colors i want.. = and at a reasonable price.. Next time i am in there i will price their = color cards and let you know the costs.. Was it you that mentioned you had a merchants account with DMC??? = lucky you.. and that should make you very very popular with the = embroiders on this list.. best wishes kathy=20 Martin Field wrote: Hi Kathy You are right - I can get them here in Oshawa, Ontario for between = $20 retail + tax. It is just that DMC is hard to come by and at an affordable price in = some regions of North America according to what I have been informed by = both people and the trade. All the best Martin ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! Hmm those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. If we are = talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, with the = corresponding colors for.. ahh.. cant recall the other brand.. for = less that $20 CDN.. I am not %100 percent certain of this of course, = but i could check it out if any one is interested Kathy=20 Martin Field wrote: As a result of some members mentioning that the DMC color card = is either very hard locate or otherwise very expensive ( the latest = report has someone mentioning a heady price of $39.00 US and another = person mentioned $30.00 U.S ). I have opened up a merchant account with DMC and now have six = DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color cards available at cost plus postage for = RANA members. 11.50 + 3.00 U.S. (Postage etc) 15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage etc) I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's natural dye listing that appeared = in Chronicle that is referenced against this DMC color card and had it = laminated !! This I throw in with the DMC card as a freebie - again for = RANA members only. All the best Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3A88D.9A487200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Kathy
I only really established a merchants = account with=20 DMC for people expressing difficulty in obtaining the colour card - = well, if=20 there is demand for other DMC products then we'll have to see = .....
Cheers
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, = 2003 7:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC = Color Cards=20 !

Hi Martin..  since i have only recently.. ie the last year = or=20 two..  i am no expert on the subject of availability of DMC or = any other=20 form of embroidery floss..  I do know that the local branch of = Lewiscraft=20 has a fair selection and so far i have been able to  get any = colors i=20 want.. and at a reasonable price..  Next time i am in there  = i will=20 price their color cards and let you know the costs..
 
Was it you that mentioned you had a  merchants account with=20 DMC???   lucky you.. and that should make you very very = popular with=20 the embroiders on this list.. <g>
 
best wishes
kathy

Martin Field = <marfield66@sympatico.ca>=20 wrote:
Hi Kathy
You are right - I can get them here = in Oshawa,=20 Ontario for between $20 retail + tax.
It is just that DMC is hard to come = by and at=20 an affordable price in some regions of North America according to = what I=20 have been informed by both people and the trade.
All the best
Martin
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Kathy
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, = 2003 4:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC = Color=20 Cards !

Hmm  those prices you mention are interesting, Martin.. = If we=20 are talking about the same thing, i have seen a DMC color card, = with the=20 corresponding   colors for..  ahh.. cant recall the = other=20 brand.. for less that $20 CDN..  I am not %100 percent = certain of=20 this of course, but i could check it out if any one is = interested
Kathy

Martin Field=20 <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
As a result of some members = mentioning that=20 the DMC color card is either very hard locate or otherwise = very=20 expensive ( the latest report has someone mentioning a heady = price of=20 $39.00 US and another person mentioned $30.00 U.S = ).
I have opened up a merchant = account with=20 DMC and now have six DMC Laine Colbert No.125 color = cards available=20 at cost plus postage for RANA members.
11.50 + 3.00 U.S.=20 (Postage etc)
15.00 + 3.00 C.A. (Postage = etc)
I also cropped Hazel Uzzel's = natural dye=20 listing that appeared in Chronicle that is referenced = against this=20 DMC color card and had it laminated !! This I throw in with the = DMC card=20 as a freebie - again for RANA members only.
All the best
Martin
 

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3A88D.9A487200-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 00:57:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 19:57:50 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings References: Message-ID: <002401c3a8b7$fee66760$7900a8c0@field> Hi Raghnailt Of course, I'll send them as a seperate posting. All the best Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horn, Trisha D." To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Greetings > Would it be possible for me to get those, as well? > Raghnailt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Field [SMTP:marfield66@sympatico.ca] > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 17:23 > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > Hello & Welcome Kathy ! > > Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and our > > growing presence in North America. > > As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate > > email to you which will include two accompanying introductory > > attachments. > > All the best > > Martin Field > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kathy > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum > > site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch > > and there were Canadians involved as well.. > > I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. > > (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . My > > persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. > > I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list > > > > Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* Email Confidentiality Statement ********* > Visit http://www.saintfrancis.com/emailconf.asp > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 01:43:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:43:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! In-Reply-To: <001a01c3a8b7$83693ea0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031112014319.47468.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2088524346-1068601399=:46362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good for you.. have fun! kathy Martin Field wrote: Hi Kathy I only really established a merchants account with DMC for people expressing difficulty in obtaining the colour card - well, if there is demand for other DMC products then we'll have to see ..... Cheers Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards ! Hi Martin.. since i have only recently.. ie the last year or two.. i am no expert on the subject of availability of DMC or any other form of embroidery floss.. I do know that the local branch of Lewiscraft has a fair selection and so far i have been able to get any colors i want.. and at a reasonable price.. Next time i am in there i will price their color cards and let you know the costs.. Was it you that mentioned you had a merchants account with DMC??? lucky you.. and that should make you very very popular with the embroiders on this list.. best wishes kathy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2088524346-1068601399=:46362 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Good for you..  have fun!
kathy

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Hi Kathy
I only really established a merchants account with DMC for people expressing difficulty in obtaining the colour card - well, if there is demand for other DMC products then we'll have to see .....
Cheers
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] DMC Color Cards !

Hi Martin..  since i have only recently.. ie the last year or two..  i am no expert on the subject of availability of DMC or any other form of embroidery floss..  I do know that the local branch of Lewiscraft has a fair selection and so far i have been able to  get any colors i want.. and at a reasonable price..  Next time i am in there  i will price their color cards and let you know the costs..
 
Was it you that mentioned you had a  merchants account with DMC???   lucky you.. and that should make you very very popular with the embroiders on this list.. <g>
 
best wishes
kathy

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2088524346-1068601399=:46362-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 03:53:41 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:53:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering Message-ID: <12648880.1068609221632.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> ------=_Part_33600_32453141.1068609221629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or something they would like to learn? There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be ideal. We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give us exposure and grow as a group. Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential neighborhood). I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris Payne, I don't have his email address either). Looking forward to having everyone over, Bill (Leifr) ------=_Part_33600_32453141.1068609221629 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov...

Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or something they would like to learn?

There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be ideal.

We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips).

Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give us exposure and grow as a group.

Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential neighborhood).

I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris Payne, I don't have his email address either).

Looking forward to having everyone over,

Bill (Leifr)

------=_Part_33600_32453141.1068609221629-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 09:03:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 04:03:55 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] FWD Blacksmithing and the Mastermyr Chest of Tools. Message-ID: <3FB1F77B.3080703@bellsouth.net> Happened to see the following on the Meriedies Blacksmithing list and thought of you. Some of you ODD lot might be interested in this: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [meridies_metalsmiths] Digest Number 567 Date: 8 Jun 2003 13:40:01 -0000 From: meridies_metalsmiths@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: meridies_metalsmiths@yahoogroups.com To: meridies_metalsmiths@yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: meridies_metalsmiths-unsubscribe@onelist.com ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:45:30 -0500 From: Subject: Fw: blacksmith videos ----- Original Message ----- From: magichammer To: LAMA members Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Fw: blacksmith videos ----- Original Message ----- From: ANVILWORK@aol.com To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:20 AM Subject: [aba_blacksmiths] blacksmith videos Rocky Comfort Forge is selling educational videos and dvds by noted blacksmiths such as Elmer Roiush, Clay Spencer, Tal Harris, Brad Silberberg, et al. VHS $25; DVD $32 35 selections featuring 21 different artists For free catalog, email Debbie Parramore at rockycomfortforge@gdsys.net or rockycomfortprod@msn.com or write to Rocky Comfort Forge 6323 Pat Thomas Parkway Quincy, FL 32351 Dave Allen, Newsletter Editor Appalachian Blacksmiths Association Website: http://www.appaltree.net ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 00:20:31 -0400 From: Subject: SOmething to look at. BlankHej! A friend sent me the following link to a group that was set up near her at a mundane blacksmithing hammer in. They are called the Wolves of Wodan, they received an award for "most historic display" & put up a series of photos of another group of smiths from the Forge e-list that are doing a reproduction of the Mastermyr find. Check out the photos of "Age of Iron 2003" http://groups.msn.com/WolvesofWodan/shoebox.msnw?Page=6 Pax, Olaf of Trollhiemsfjord __________________ Incidentally Kayne and Son in Candler NC sells some nice hammers, swage blocks, grinders, fly presses, and Pull Max machines. Were I a professional armorer I would love a Pull Max and an English Wheel to save blowing out my elbow. Says he who has trouble driving a dozen 16 d nails now. They are a bit light on round forming stakes but boffo on hammers and swage blocks. A wonderful assortment. I was the guy who encouraged the reprint of the Mastermyr Find: a Viking Age Tool Chest from Gotland, where it likely overturned in a bog that became a meadow and it was turned up by a plow. Has blacksmithing, woodworking, jewelry, and cooking tools - a folding fish grill and a cauldron associated with it. $20 in America from Norm Larson Books, 5426 E. Hwy 246, Lompoc, CA 93436. Fax 805-735-8367, Ph 800-743-4766 Postage is $2 for first book plus $.50 for each additional book to a maximum of $5.00 larbooks@impulse.net I looked for a Mastermyr book for two years before Norm did the reprint, shortly before the author died. After two more years I got the hardback original too in English. This is the biggest single survival of tools from medieval times. The English Medieval Chests book and the Ancient Locks and Keys Books are available from Thompson Conservation Laboratory and the Caber Press. Look on the pdf flyer for the English Medieval Chests reprint, which has measurements and details, and rubbings of original carvings on them. A dozen would make excellent Xmas gifts for everyone. They sell well too. I got rid of two dozen in a couple of days. He sells them at discount by the dozen. If you want to make a medieval chest and want a good idea of how they were put together than this is the book for you. It covers initially two centuries but the additional plates cover the next two or three. http://home.teleport.com/~tcl/caber.htm 1/03 http://home.teleport.com/~tcl/CaberPress_web.pdf Thompson Conservation Lab. 7549 N. Fenwick Portland, Oregon 97217 USA 503/735-3942 (ph/fax) http://home.teleport.com/~tcl 1/03 Master Magnus Malleus, OL, Windmasters Hill, Regia.org, Manx, GDH Please do not put on the Rialto or any usenet newsgroup. Your local kingdom, canton, shire, or friends elist is fine. From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 11:15:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:15:39 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images References: <12648880.1068609221632.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> Message-ID: <013a01c3a90e$4d895cf0$97722052@kim1> Hi Bill, I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green tunic, guys.) New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl The last twenty or so. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or something they would like to learn? > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be ideal. > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give us exposure and grow as a group. > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential neighborhood). > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris Payne, I don't have his email address either). > Looking forward to having everyone over, > Bill (Leifr) From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 14:12:46 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images Message-ID: <15273773.1068646366223.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> ------=_Part_7666_5874481.1068646366219 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks mate! I think the pics of Gill and Ali are just brilliant. Saturday the Battlefield Detectives episode on Hastings was aired. Very interesting tack they took on explaining the circumstances leading to the battle. Can't wait to see the Monarchs series...looks like programs are on about a three month delay crossing the Atlantic. (For those coming to my place, I'm not normally that good looking...it was all television make up!) Bill Message date : Nov 12 2003, 11:19 AM >From : J K Siddorn To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : [Regia-NA] Webshots images Hi Bill, I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green tunic, guys.) New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl The last twenty or so. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or something they would like to learn? > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be ideal. > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give us exposure and grow as a group. > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential neighborhood). > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris Payne, I don't have his email address either). > Looking forward to having everyone over, > Bill (Leifr) _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_7666_5874481.1068646366219 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks mate!  I think the pics of Gill and Ali are just brilliant.&= nbsp;

 

Saturday the Battlefield Detectives episode on Hastings was aired. = Very interesting tack they took on explaining the circumstances leading to= the battle.  Can't wait to see the Monarchs series...looks like progr= ams are on about a three month delay crossing the Atlantic.


(For those coming to my place, I'm not normally that good looking...= it was all television make up!)

 

Bill


Message date : Nov 12 2003, 11:19 AM
From : J K Siddorn =
To : list-regia-na@lig.net
Copy to : =
Subject : [Regia-NA] Webshots images
Hi Bill,

I've added to= this album some photos which you - and others of the world's
greatest = democratic state - might like to see. ;o))

http://community.webshot= s.com/album/63768916bufRUp

They might help to identify you to your = guests (he's the one in the green
tunic, guys.)

New pics from l= ast weekend at Wychurst have been added to

http://community.webshot= s.com/album/95863701YBqjnl

The last twenty or so.


Regar= ds,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of m= e
than a free frontal lobotomy!


----- Original Message ----= -
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] Som= e final notes on The Gathering


> Some final notes for the ga= thering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov...
> Tracie Brown has asked if = we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I
certainly have the tools = for cutting any wood, although I don't think my
sewing machine is stron= g enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so
someone will have to= bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template,
and/or I have t= he old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a
geteld avail= able. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or
something = they would like to learn?
> There has also be an idea for people to = bring things they might like to
trade or sell off....things like cloth,= finished kit, and such would be
ideal.
> We will be doing Conti= nental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners
are a fend for you= rself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub
opening in Gulfp= ort and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for
dinner (oooo, Gu= iness steak pie and chips).
> Bring ideas for places and events that= we could use as gatherings to give
us exposure and grow as a group. > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any =
timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on <= BR>Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice=
(there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland = to
share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential <= BR>neighborhood).
> I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, bu= t if not, can someone
forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please= send this on to Chris
Payne, I don't have his email address either). <= BR>> Looking forward to having everyone over,
> Bill (Leifr)
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------=_Part_7666_5874481.1068646366219-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 18:00:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images In-Reply-To: <013a01c3a90e$4d895cf0$97722052@kim1> Message-ID: <20031112180045.69153.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-157382455-1068660045=:69048 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and with any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. Kathy J K Siddorn wrote: Hi Bill, I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green tunic, guys.) New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl The last twenty or so. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or something they would like to learn? > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be ideal. > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give us exposure and grow as a group. > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential neighborhood). > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris Payne, I don't have his email address either). > Looking forward to having everyone over, > Bill (Leifr) _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-157382455-1068660045=:69048 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Great pictures, Kim...  I especially found the ones of Wychurst  fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and  with any luck maybe we will have  a chance to visit the site.
 
Kathy

J K Siddorn <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's
greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o))

http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp

They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green
tunic, guys.)

New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to

http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl

The last twenty or so.


Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
than a free frontal lobotomy!


----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering


> Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov...
> Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I
certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my
sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so
someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template,
and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a
geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or
something they would like to learn?
> There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to
trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be
ideal.
> We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners
are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub
opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for
dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips).
> Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give
us exposure and grow as a group.
> Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any
timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on
Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice
(there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to
share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential
neighborhood).
> I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone
forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris
Payne, I don't have his email address either).
> Looking forward to having everyone over,
> Bill (Leifr)


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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-157382455-1068660045=:69048-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 18:22:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:22:50 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images References: <20031112180045.69153.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03b401c3a949$fac55910$97722052@kim1> OK, we might have a roof on by then! Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and with any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. > > Kathy > > J K Siddorn wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green > tunic, guys.) > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > > The last twenty or so. > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or > something they would like to learn? > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be > ideal. > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give > us exposure and grow as a group. > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential > neighborhood). > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris > Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > Bill (Leifr) > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 18:38:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:38:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim In-Reply-To: <03b401c3a949$fac55910$97722052@kim1> Message-ID: <20031112183808.90701.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-408800987-1068662288=:87549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the sleeping furs.. btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough.. Kathy J K Siddorn wrote: OK, we might have a roof on by then! Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and with any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. > > Kathy > > J K Siddorn wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green > tunic, guys.) > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > > The last twenty or so. > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or > something they would like to learn? > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be > ideal. > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and dinners > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to give > us exposure and grow as a group. > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential > neighborhood). > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris > Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > Bill (Leifr) > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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Ah a roof might be good.......  grin....keep those  UK rains off the sleeping furs..
btw,  are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough..
Kathy

J K Siddorn <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
OK, we might have a roof on by then!


Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
than a free frontal lobotomy!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images


> Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst
fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and with
any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site.
>
> Kathy
>
> J K Siddorn wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's
> greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o))
>
> http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp
>
> They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green
> tunic, guys.)
>
> New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to
>
> http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl
>
> The last twenty or so.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kim Siddorn
>
> I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
> than a free frontal lobotomy!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM
> Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering
>
>
> > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov...
> > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I
> certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my
> sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so
> someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a
template,
> and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a
> geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or
> something they would like to learn?
> > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to
> trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be
> ideal.
> > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and
dinners
> are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub
> opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for
> dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips).
> > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to
give
> us exposure and grow as a group.
> > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any
> timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on
> Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice
> (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to
> share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential
> neighborhood).
> > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone
> forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris
> Payne, I don't have his email address either).
> > Looking forward to having everyone over,
> > Bill (Leifr)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-408800987-1068662288=:87549-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 18:38:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Green Shield) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:38:54 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images Message-ID: The shadows didn't hurt any either! ;) >From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:46 +0100 (CET) > >Thanks mate! I think the pics of Gill and Ali are just brilliant. > >Saturday the Battlefield Detectives episode on Hastings was aired. Very >interesting tack they took on explaining the circumstances leading to the >battle. Can't wait to see the Monarchs series...looks like programs are on >about a three month delay crossing the Atlantic. > >(For those coming to my place, I'm not normally that good looking...it was >all television make up!) > >Bill > > > >Message date : Nov 12 2003, 11:19 AM >From : J K Siddorn >To : list-regia-na@lig.net >Copy to : >Subject : [Regia-NA] Webshots images >Hi Bill, > >I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's >greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > >http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > >They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green >tunic, guys.) > >New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > >http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > >The last twenty or so. > > >Regards, > >Kim Siddorn > >I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me >than a free frontal lobotomy! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM >Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I >certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my >sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so >someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, >and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a >geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or >something they would like to learn? > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to >trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be >ideal. > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and >dinners >are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub >opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for >dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to >give >us exposure and grow as a group. > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any >timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on >Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice >(there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to >share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential >neighborhood). > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone >forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris >Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > Bill (Leifr) > > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 18:48:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:48:07 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim References: <20031112183808.90701.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03ff01c3a94d$83413310$97722052@kim1> 'course there are! About 35% of the society are female, it's just that filmwork and construction work tend to be male things ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim > Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the sleeping furs.. > btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough.. > Kathy > > J K Siddorn wrote: > OK, we might have a roof on by then! > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images > > > > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst > fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and with > any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. > > > > Kathy > > > > J K Siddorn wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's > > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > > > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green > > tunic, guys.) > > > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > > > > The last twenty or so. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I > > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my > > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so > > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a > template, > > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a > > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or > > something they would like to learn? > > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to > > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be > > ideal. > > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and > dinners > > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub > > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for > > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to > give > > us exposure and grow as a group. > > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any > > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on > > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice > > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to > > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential > > neighborhood). > > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone > > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris > > Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > > Bill (Leifr) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 19:04:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:04:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim In-Reply-To: <03ff01c3a94d$83413310$97722052@kim1> Message-ID: <20031112190408.80650.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1692377147-1068663848=:79269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OH I am so pleased to hear that.. As for construction being male things.. hmm i have met a few women in the SCa who were not exactly frail shrinking violets.. I also recall about 6 of us helping one of the Barons pitch his 30 foot Baronial Pavillion.. and he was the only male in sight.. kathy J K Siddorn wrote: 'course there are! About 35% of the society are female, it's just that filmwork and construction work tend to be male things ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim > Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the sleeping furs.. > btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough.. > Kathy > > J K Siddorn wrote: > OK, we might have a roof on by then! > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images > > > > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst > fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and with > any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. > > > > Kathy > > > > J K Siddorn wrote: > > Hi Bill, > > > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's > > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > > > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green > > tunic, guys.) > > > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > > > > The last twenty or so. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I > > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my > > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so > > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a > template, > > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a > > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or > > something they would like to learn? > > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to > > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be > > ideal. > > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and > dinners > > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub > > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for > > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to > give > > us exposure and grow as a group. > > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any > > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on > > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice > > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to > > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential > > neighborhood). > > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone > > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris > > Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > > Bill (Leifr) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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OH I am so pleased to hear that..  As for construction being male things.. hmm i have met a few women in the SCa who were not exactly  frail shrinking violets..   I also recall about 6 of us helping one of the Barons  pitch his  30 foot   Baronial Pavillion.. and he was the only male in sight..  <g>
 
kathy

J K Siddorn <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
'course there are! About 35% of the society are female, it's just that
filmwork and construction work tend to be male things ;o))


Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
than a free frontal lobotomy!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim


> Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the
sleeping furs..
> btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen
have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the
fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough..
> Kathy
>
> J K Siddorn wrote:
> OK, we might have a roof on by then!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kim Siddorn
>
> I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
> than a free frontal lobotomy!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy"
> To:
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images
>
>
> > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst
> fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and
with
> any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > J K Siddorn wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the
world's
> > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o))
> >
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp
> >
> > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the
green
> > tunic, guys.)
> >
> > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to
> >
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl
> >
> > The last twenty or so.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kim Siddorn
> >
> > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
> > than a free frontal lobotomy!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
> > To:
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM
> > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering
> >
> >
> > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov...
> > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea.
I
> > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my
> > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas,
so
> > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a
> template,
> > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have
a
> > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or
> > something they would like to learn?
> > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like
to
> > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be
> > ideal.
> > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and
> dinners
> > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub
> > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for
> > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips).
> > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to
> give
> > us exposure and grow as a group.
> > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any
> > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on
> > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice
> > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to
> > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential
> > neighborhood).
> > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone
> > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris
> > Payne, I don't have his email address either).
> > > Looking forward to having everyone over,
> > > Bill (Leifr)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > list-regia-na mailing list
> > list-regia-na@lig.net
> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na
> >
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1692377147-1068663848=:79269-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 19:54:25 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Horn, Trisha D.) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:54:25 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings Message-ID: Many thanks! > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Field [SMTP:marfield66@sympatico.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 18:58 > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > Hi Raghnailt > Of course, I'll send them as a seperate posting. > All the best > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Horn, Trisha D." > To: > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:30 AM > Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > Would it be possible for me to get those, as well? > > Raghnailt > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Field [SMTP:marfield66@sympatico.ca] > > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 17:23 > > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > > > Hello & Welcome Kathy ! > > > Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and > our > > > growing presence in North America. > > > As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate > > > email to you which will include two accompanying introductory > > > attachments. > > > All the best > > > Martin Field > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Kathy > > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM > > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > > > I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum > > > site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American > branch > > > and there were Canadians involved as well.. > > > I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. > > > (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . > My > > > persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. > > > I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list > > > > > > Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* Email Confidentiality Statement ********* > > Visit http://www.saintfrancis.com/emailconf.asp > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > ********* Email Confidentiality Statement ********* Visit http://www.saintfrancis.com/emailconf.asp From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 12 20:42:35 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:42:35 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim References: <20031112190408.80650.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <043d01c3a95d$81002970$97722052@kim1> Anyone's welcome to do anything they want. There have been a number of females over the months who have chiselled mortice pockets, sawn joints and helped haul timber. It's just that men naturally gravitate that way. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim > OH I am so pleased to hear that.. As for construction being male things.. hmm i have met a few women in the SCa who were not exactly frail shrinking violets.. I also recall about 6 of us helping one of the Barons pitch his 30 foot Baronial Pavillion.. and he was the only male in sight.. > > kathy > > J K Siddorn wrote: > 'course there are! About 35% of the society are female, it's just that > filmwork and construction work tend to be male things ;o)) > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim > > > > Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the > sleeping furs.. > > btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen > have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the > fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough.. > > Kathy > > > > J K Siddorn wrote: > > OK, we might have a roof on by then! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy" > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images > > > > > > > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst > > fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and > with > > any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > J K Siddorn wrote: > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the > world's > > > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > > > > > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the > green > > > tunic, guys.) > > > > > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > > > > > > The last twenty or so. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM > > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > > > > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. > I > > > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my > > > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, > so > > > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a > > template, > > > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have > a > > > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or > > > something they would like to learn? > > > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like > to > > > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be > > > ideal. > > > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and > > dinners > > > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub > > > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for > > > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to > > give > > > us exposure and grow as a group. > > > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any > > > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on > > > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice > > > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to > > > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential > > > neighborhood). > > > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone > > > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris > > > Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > > > Bill (Leifr) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 01:16:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:16:19 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives Message-ID: For those who missed it, Bill played William the Conquerer in "Who Got Lucky at Hastings". Boy did he look noble. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the show will be airing again in the foreseeable future. I'll be bringing the video to the gathering at his place next weekend. Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"? -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 02:14:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:14:44 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Picture Archive Message-ID: <001101c3a98b$e7835cc0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3A961.FE735900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kim Nice piccies indeed. I am particularly green with envy that I missed the Big Lift when we = were over. Regards the piccies of the mounted riders - I wonder if the shot was = taken as they were riding away from the local mead-hall which of course = begs the question - which one was the designated rider ??? ;-)) Cheers Martin ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3A961.FE735900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Kim
Nice piccies indeed.
I am particularly green with envy that = I missed the=20 Big Lift when we were over.
Regards the piccies of the mounted = riders - I=20 wonder if the shot was taken as they were riding away from the local = mead-hall=20 which of course begs the question - which one was the designated rider=20 ???   ;-))
Cheers
Martin
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3A961.FE735900-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 02:35:31 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:35:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives Message-ID: <10836077.1068690931302.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> ------=_Part_15166_16599177.1068690931300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it certainly beats my other nickname, "The Nose"....which might not be a story appropriate to this e-group. :o) Bill Message date : Nov 13 2003, 01:40 AM >From : Tracie Brown To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives For those who missed it, Bill played William the Conquerer in "Who Got Lucky at Hastings". Boy did he look noble. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the show will be airing again in the foreseeable future. I'll be bringing the video to the gathering at his place next weekend. Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"? -- Tracie _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_15166_16599177.1068690931300 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well, it certainly beats my other nickname, "The Nose"....which might not be a story appropriate to this e-group.  :o)

 

Bill



Message date : Nov 13 2003, 01:40 AM
From : Tracie Brown
To : list-regia-na@lig.net
Copy to :
Subject : [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives
For those who missed it, Bill played William the Conquerer
in "Who Got Lucky at Hastings". Boy did he look noble.
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the show will be airing
again in the foreseeable future. I'll be bringing the video
to the gathering at his place next weekend.

Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"?

-- Tracie
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------=_Part_15166_16599177.1068690931300-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 02:38:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:38:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images Message-ID: <27269853.1068691092876.JavaMail.www@wwinf3002> ------=_Part_15173_11668910.1068691092873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And let's please give some credit to the smoke machine! (I have to say that the compliment from the director that I had the right look and air on my face during the riding was a compliment...I couldn't bring myself to tell him it was fear - hadn't been on a horse in ages!) Bill Message date : Nov 12 2003, 08:08 PM >From : Green Shield To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images The shadows didn't hurt any either! ;) >From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:46 +0100 (CET) > >Thanks mate! I think the pics of Gill and Ali are just brilliant. > >Saturday the Battlefield Detectives episode on Hastings was aired. Very >interesting tack they took on explaining the circumstances leading to the >battle. Can't wait to see the Monarchs series...looks like programs are on >about a three month delay crossing the Atlantic. > >(For those coming to my place, I'm not normally that good looking...it was >all television make up!) > >Bill > > > >Message date : Nov 12 2003, 11:19 AM >From : J K Siddorn >To : list-regia-na@lig.net >Copy to : >Subject : [Regia-NA] Webshots images >Hi Bill, > >I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the world's >greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > >http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > >They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the green >tunic, guys.) > >New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > >http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > >The last twenty or so. > > >Regards, > >Kim Siddorn > >I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me >than a free frontal lobotomy! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM >Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. I >certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my >sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, so >someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template, >and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a >geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or >something they would like to learn? > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like to >trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be >ideal. > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and >dinners >are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub >opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for >dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to >give >us exposure and grow as a group. > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any >timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on >Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice >(there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to >share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential >neighborhood). > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone >forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris >Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > Bill (Leifr) > > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_15173_11668910.1068691092873 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

And let's please give some credit to the smoke machine!  (I have to= say that the compliment from the director that I had the right look and ai= r on my face during the riding was a compliment...I couldn't bring myself t= o tell him it was fear - hadn't been on a horse in ages!)

Bill



Message date : Nov 12 2003, 08:08 PM
From : Green Shield=
To : list-regia-na@lig.net
Copy to :
= Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images
The shadows didn't hurt any ei= ther!

;)

>From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk
>= Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net
>To: list-regia-na@lig.net
>S= ubject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12= :46 +0100 (CET)
>
>Thanks mate! I think the pics of Gill and = Ali are just brilliant.
>
>Saturday the Battlefield Detective= s episode on Hastings was aired. Very
>interesting tack they took on= explaining the circumstances leading to the
>battle. Can't wait to = see the Monarchs series...looks like programs are on
>about a three = month delay crossing the Atlantic.
>
>(For those coming to my= place, I'm not normally that good looking...it was
>all television = make up!)
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>Message = date : Nov 12 2003, 11:19 AM
>From : J K Siddorn
>To : list-r= egia-na@lig.net
>Copy to :
>Subject : [Regia-NA] Webshots ima= ges
>Hi Bill,
>
>I've added to this album some photos = which you - and others of the world's
>greatest democratic state - m= ight like to see. ;o))
>
>http://community.webshots.com/album= /63768916bufRUp
>
>They might help to identify you to your gu= ests (he's the one in the green
>tunic, guys.)
>
>New = pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to
>
>http= ://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl
>
>The last tw= enty or so.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Kim Siddorn=
>
>I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
>than= a free frontal lobotomy!
>
>
>----- Original Message = -----
>From:
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 = 3:53 AM
>Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering
&= gt;
>
> > Some final notes for the gathering at my place o= n 22 and 23 Nov...
> > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on t= ents. That is a great idea. I
>certainly have the tools for cutting = any wood, although I don't think my
>sewing machine is strong enough= to penetrate several layers of canvas, so
>someone will have to bri= ng theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a template,
>and/or I have t= he old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have a
>geteld a= vailable. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or
>so= mething they would like to learn?
> > There has also be an idea f= or people to bring things they might like to
>trade or sell off....t= hings like cloth, finished kit, and such would be
>ideal.
> &= gt; We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and
= >dinners
>are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that ther= e is an Irish pub
>opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been mad= e to make a visit for
>dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). <= BR>> > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatheri= ngs to
>give
>us exposure and grow as a group.
> > = Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any
>= ;timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on
= >Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choic= e
>(there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scot= land to
>share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a resi= dential
>neighborhood).
> > I think Russ Holmes is still o= n this e-group, but if not, can someone
>forward this to him (...and= Scott, can you please send this on to Chris
>Payne, I don't have hi= s email address either).
> > Looking forward to having everyone o= ver,
> > Bill (Leifr)
>
>
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------=_Part_15173_11668910.1068691092873-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 03:39:25 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:39:25 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: <003a01c3a997$bc699de0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C3A96D.D351F900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop = on these. Are they suitable for Regia combat ? Cheers Martin ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C3A96D.D351F900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Someone has asked me about Paul Chen = swords - does=20 anyone have the scoop on these.
Are they suitable for Regia combat = ?
Cheers
Martin
 
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C3A96D.D351F900-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 03:45:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:45:10 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: Nope, no, nope and noppity-nope. The edges are too thin. As an aside, the pommel from my Paul Chen Viking feel off just when I was brandishing it in pride. So no again. On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >From: "Martin Field" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: "REGIA ANGLORUM NA" >Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:39:25 -0500 > >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? >Cheers >Martin _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 04:12:15 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:12:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim In-Reply-To: <043d01c3a95d$81002970$97722052@kim1> Message-ID: <20031113041215.6570.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1438290393-1068696735=:6394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HIP HIP HUZZAH on all counts.. Kathy J K Siddorn wrote: Anyone's welcome to do anything they want. There have been a number of females over the months who have chiselled mortice pockets, sawn joints and helped haul timber. It's just that men naturally gravitate that way. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim > OH I am so pleased to hear that.. As for construction being male things.. hmm i have met a few women in the SCa who were not exactly frail shrinking violets.. I also recall about 6 of us helping one of the Barons pitch his 30 foot Baronial Pavillion.. and he was the only male in sight.. > > kathy > > J K Siddorn wrote: > 'course there are! About 35% of the society are female, it's just that > filmwork and construction work tend to be male things ;o)) > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy" > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim > > > > Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the > sleeping furs.. > > btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen > have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the > fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough.. > > Kathy > > > > J K Siddorn wrote: > > OK, we might have a roof on by then! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy" > > To: > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images > > > > > > > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst > > fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and > with > > any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site. > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > J K Siddorn wrote: > > > Hi Bill, > > > > > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the > world's > > > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o)) > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp > > > > > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the > green > > > tunic, guys.) > > > > > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to > > > > > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl > > > > > > The last twenty or so. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM > > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering > > > > > > > > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov... > > > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great idea. > I > > > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think my > > > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas, > so > > > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a > > template, > > > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also have > a > > > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching? Or > > > something they would like to learn? > > > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like > to > > > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would be > > > ideal. > > > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and > > dinners > > > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish pub > > > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for > > > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips). > > > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to > > give > > > us exposure and grow as a group. > > > > Please remember to bring sleeping bags. If anyone has access to any > > > timber/lumber, we can set up my firebox in the back yard and relax on > > > Saturday evenings. You can certainly imbibe in the poison of your choice > > > (there might even be a bottle of Moniak mead smuggled out of Scotland to > > > share about), but please no sloppy drunks (we are in a residential > > > neighborhood). > > > > I think Russ Holmes is still on this e-group, but if not, can someone > > > forward this to him (...and Scott, can you please send this on to Chris > > > Payne, I don't have his email address either). > > > > Looking forward to having everyone over, > > > > Bill (Leifr) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1438290393-1068696735=:6394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
HIP HIP HUZZAH on all counts.. <g>
Kathy

J K Siddorn <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Anyone's welcome to do anything they want. There have been a number of
females over the months who have chiselled mortice pockets, sawn joints and
helped haul timber. It's just that men naturally gravitate that way.


Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
than a free frontal lobotomy!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim


> OH I am so pleased to hear that.. As for construction being male things..
hmm i have met a few women in the SCa who were not exactly frail shrinking
violets.. I also recall about 6 of us helping one of the Barons pitch his
30 foot Baronial Pavillion.. and he was the only male in sight..
>
> kathy
>
> J K Siddorn wrote:
> 'course there are! About 35% of the society are female, it's just that
> filmwork and construction work tend to be male things ;o))
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kim Siddorn
>
> I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
> than a free frontal lobotomy!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy"
> To:
>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim
>
>
> > Ah a roof might be good....... grin....keep those UK rains off the
> sleeping furs..
> > btw, are there any women in this organization? so far.. all i have seen
> have been pictures of brawny men on or off horses.. nary a member of the
> fairer sex to be seen.. Or maybe i was just not looking closely enough..
> > Kathy
> >
> > J K Siddorn wrote:
> > OK, we might have a roof on by then!
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kim Siddorn
> >
> > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
> > than a free frontal lobotomy!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kathy"
> > To:
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots images
> >
> >
> > > Great pictures, Kim... I especially found the ones of Wychurst
> > fascinating.. My partner and i are hoping to go to England in 2005 and
> with
> > any luck maybe we will have a chance to visit the site.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > J K Siddorn wrote:
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > I've added to this album some photos which you - and others of the
> world's
> > > greatest democratic state - might like to see. ;o))
> > >
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp
> > >
> > > They might help to identify you to your guests (he's the one in the
> green
> > > tunic, guys.)
> > >
> > > New pics from last weekend at Wychurst have been added to
> > >
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/95863701YBqjnl
> > >
> > > The last twenty or so.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Kim Siddorn
> > >
> > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
> > > than a free frontal lobotomy!
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > > To:
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:53 AM
> > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Some final notes on The Gathering
> > >
> > >
> > > > Some final notes for the gathering at my place on 22 and 23 Nov...
> > > > Tracie Brown has asked if we can work on tents. That is a great
idea.
> I
> > > certainly have the tools for cutting any wood, although I don't think
my
> > > sewing machine is strong enough to penetrate several layers of canvas,
> so
> > > someone will have to bring theirs. We can use my Viking tent as a
> > template,
> > > and/or I have the old tent plans from T.I. many years back. I also
have
> a
> > > geteld available. Does anyone else have a desire to do some teaching?
Or
> > > something they would like to learn?
> > > > There has also be an idea for people to bring things they might like
> to
> > > trade or sell off....things like cloth, finished kit, and such would
be
> > > ideal.
> > > > We will be doing Continental breakfast on both mornings; lunch and
> > dinners
> > > are a fend for yourself. Rumor has reached me that there is an Irish
pub
> > > opening in Gulfport and a suggestion has been made to make a visit for
> > > dinner (oooo, Guiness steak pie and chips).
> > > > Bring ideas for places and events that we could use as gatherings to
> > give
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1438290393-1068696735=:6394-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 05:05:18 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:05:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: <23142800.1068699918835.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> ------=_Part_116_10279131.1068699918833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought all the Paul Chen swords were sharps?! Bill Message date : Nov 13 2003, 04:10 AM >From : Martin Field To : REGIA ANGLORUM NA Copy to : Subject : [Regia-NA] Swords Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on these. Are they suitable for Regia combat ? Cheers Martin ------=_Part_116_10279131.1068699918833 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I thought all the Paul Chen swords were sharps?!

Bill



Message date : Nov 13 2003, 04:10 AM
From : Martin Field
To : REGIA ANGLORUM NA
Copy to :
Subject : [Regia-NA] Swords







Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does
anyone have the scoop on these.

Are they suitable for Regia combat ?

Cheers

Martin

 

------=_Part_116_10279131.1068699918833-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 09:52:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Steve Etheridge) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:52:55 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: >From: "Martin Field" >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface, holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not shatter or stay bent when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blade of known quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade. Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced it for free with no hard feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a digital camera _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 10:38:24 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:38:24 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives Message-ID: <12c.3514dac9.2ce4b920@aol.com> --part1_12c.3514dac9.2ce4b920_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"? -- Tracie Bearing in mind the length of his indoctrination on our side of the pond, might I suggest "My Lord Lucky Bastard" - for your own protection, you understand..... Aly "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly" (lost the author's name with my last computer) --part1_12c.3514dac9.2ce4b920_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"?

-- Tracie

Bearing in mind the length of his indoctrination on our side of the pond, mi= ght I suggest "My Lord Lucky Bastard" - for your own protection, you underst= and.....

Aly

"Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly"  (lost the author= 's name with my last computer) --part1_12c.3514dac9.2ce4b920_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 13:33:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:33:05 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Tortoise brooches in England - a new find Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E48E2@MAILSERVER-UK> Interested ? You might want to click on http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART18650.html Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 14:55:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:55:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113145507.26911.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> --0-930047143-1068735307=:25151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia are live steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA tourneys? kathy Steve Etheridge wrote: >From: "Martin Field" >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface, holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not shatter or stay bent when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blade of known quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade. Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced it for free with no hard feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a digital camera _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-930047143-1068735307=:25151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I take it from this discussion that the blades used  be Regia  are live steel as opposed to the  rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA   tourneys?
kathy

Steve Etheridge <seibhyrt@hotmail.com> wrote:
>From: "Martin Field"

>Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on
>these.
>Are they suitable for Regia combat ?

If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The
blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so
don't waste your money.

As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have
it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface,
holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the
blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel
the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not
shatter or stay bent when struck.

You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blade of known
quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is
important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like
to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it.

You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade.
Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk
away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer.

To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of
the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on
it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into
something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced
it for free with no hard feelings.

Hope this helps.

Steve

BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a
digital camera

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-930047143-1068735307=:25151-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 14:59:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:59:12 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9F6.B30E8CB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, very much so. Same goes for axes and spears. =20 Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :) =20 Gu=F0rum =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia are live steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA tourneys? kathy=20 Steve Etheridge wrote: >From: "Martin Field"=20 >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the = scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. = The=20 blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason = - so don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and = have=20 it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard = surface,=20 holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel = the=20 blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should = feel=20 the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will = not=20 shatter or stay bent when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blad e of known=20 quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but = it is=20 important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would = like=20 to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a = blade.=20 Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then = walk=20 away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one = of=20 the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and = on=20 it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it = into=20 something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, = replaced=20 it for free with no hard feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig = out a=20 digital camera _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone = http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _____ =20 Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with = Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9F6.B30E8CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes,=20 very much so. Same goes for axes and spears.
 
Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it = :)
 
Gu=F0rum
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy=20 [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]
Sent: 13 November 2003 = 14:55
To:=20 list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA]=20 Swords

I take it from this discussion that the blades used  be = Regia =20 are live steel as opposed to the  rattan and duct tape = constructions used=20 in SCA   tourneys?
kathy

Steve Etheridge = <seibhyrt@hotmail.com>=20 wrote:
>From:=20 "Martin Field"

>Someone has = asked me=20 about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on=20
>these.
>Are they suitable for Regia combat = ?

If they=20 are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The =
blades=20 are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - = so=20
don't waste your money.

As a general rule, you should be = able to=20 bend a decent sword blade and have
it spring back into shape. I = do it by=20 resting a point on a hard surface,
holding the pommel in my = hand and=20 leaning down on it. You should feel the
blade bending = progressively, and=20 as you release the weight, you should feel
the spring = throughout the=20 whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not
shatter or = stay bent=20 when struck.

You can test a blade's toughness by striking it = with a=20 blad e of known
quality and examining the burr on the blade. = All blades=20 will bur, but it is
important that the burrs are not too deep. = Ask=20 yourself if you would like
to be struck by a blade with that = sort of=20 burr on it.

You should do at least the first test (for = spring) before=20 you by a blade.
Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not = let you=20 do it, then walk
away from the sword - even if it comes from a = reputable=20 manufacturer.

To illustrate the point - A friend of mine = brought a=20 blade off of one of
the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't = been=20 tempered properly, and on
it's first time out we had to do a = showfight=20 for the BBC. I turned it into
something resembling a rip-saw. = The smith,=20 being a reputable guy, replaced
it for free with no hard=20 feelings.

Hope this helps.

Steve

BTW, Martin, = I'll send=20 you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a
digital=20 camera

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9F6.B30E8CB0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:18:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:18:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113151855.33975.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-376463864-1068736735=:32157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow.. sounds great.. :) Kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: Yes, very much so. Same goes for axes and spears. Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :) Guðrum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia are live steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA tourneys? kathy Steve Etheridge wrote: >From: "Martin Field" >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface, holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not shatter or stay bent when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blad e of known quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade. Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced it for free with no hard feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a digital camera _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-376463864-1068736735=:32157 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Wow.. sounds great..   :)
Kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
Yes, very much so. Same goes for axes and spears.
 
Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :)
 
Guðrum
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]
Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords

I take it from this discussion that the blades used  be Regia  are live steel as opposed to the  rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA   tourneys?
kathy

Steve Etheridge <seibhyrt@hotmail.com> wrote:
>From: "Martin Field"

>Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on
>these.
>Are they suitable for Regia combat ?

If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The
blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so
don't waste your money.

As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have
it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface,
holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the
blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel
the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not
shatter or stay bent when struck.

You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blad e of known
quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is
important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like
to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it.

You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade.
Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk
away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer.

To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of
the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on
it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into
something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced
it for free with no hard feelings.

Hope this helps.

Steve

BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a
digital camera

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Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :) Gu=F0rum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia are live steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA tourneys? kathy=20 Steve Etheridge wrote: >From: "Martin Field"=20 >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the = scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. = The=20 blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason = - so don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and = have=20 it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard = surface,=20 holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel = the=20 blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should = feel=20 the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will = not=20 shatter or stay bent when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blad e of known=20 quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but = it is=20 important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would = like=20 to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a = blade.=20 Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then = walk=20 away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one = of=20 the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and = on=20 it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it = into=20 something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, = replaced=20 it for free with no hard feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig = out a=20 digital camera _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone = http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:26:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:26:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113152645.69125.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-837331706-1068737205=:68404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ahhhhh yes that could be a major OOOPS!!!! Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :( Guðrum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 15:19 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords Wow.. sounds great.. :) Kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: Yes, very much so. Same goes for axes and spears. Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :) Guðrum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia are live steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA tourneys? kathy Steve Etheridge wrote: >From: "Martin Field" >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface, holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not shatter or stay bent when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blad e of known quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade. Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced it for free with no hard feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a digital camera _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-837331706-1068737205=:68404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ahhhhh  yes that could be a major  OOOPS!!!!   Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? 
kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down
the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :(

Guðrum


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Sent: 13 November 2003 15:19
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords


Wow.. sounds great.. :)
Kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" wrote:
Yes, very much so. Same goes for axes and spears.

Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :)

Guðrum


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Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords


I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia are live
steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used in SCA
tourneys?
kathy

Steve Etheridge wrote:
>From: "Martin Field"

>Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on

>these.
>Are they suitable for Regia combat ?

If they are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The
blades are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so

don't waste your money.

As a general rule, you should be able to bend a decent sword blade and have
it spring back into shape. I do it by resting a point on a hard surface,
holding the pommel in my hand and leaning down on it. You should feel the
blade bending progressively, and as you release the weight, you should feel
the spring throughout the whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not
shatter or stay bent when struck.

You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a blad e of known
quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades will bur, but it is
important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask yourself if you would like
to be struck by a blade with that sort of burr on it.

You should do at least the first test (for spring) before you by a blade.
Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you do it, then walk
away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable manufacturer.

To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a blade off of one of
the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been tempered properly, and on
it's first time out we had to do a showfight for the BBC. I turned it into
something resembling a rip-saw. The smith, being a reputable guy, replaced
it for free with no hard feelings.

Hope this helps.

Steve

BTW, Martin, I'll send you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a
digital camera

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-837331706-1068737205=:68404-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:32:26 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:32:26 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: Got one in my lap as of now. The Practical Knightly. The edges are square but thin. Thinner than you'd like them. And at $100 cheap and worth every penny. On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:05:18 +0100 (CET) > >I thought all the Paul Chen swords were sharps?! >Bill > > > > >Message date : Nov 13 2003, 04:10 AM >From : Martin Field >To : REGIA ANGLORUM NA >Copy to : >Subject : [Regia-NA] Swords > > > > > > > > >Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does >anyone have the scoop on these. > > >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? > > >Cheers > > >Martin _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:38:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:38:13 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9FC.2628D9D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they = want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the = UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say = that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American = football, but without the padding]. =20 As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a = happy ending. =20 Gu=F0rum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Ahhhhh yes that could be a major OOOPS!!!! Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? =20 kathy=20 Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing = down the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :( Gu=F0rum ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9FC.2628D9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No=20 problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they want = to take=20 out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the UK for = someone to=20 sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they = would=20 have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered = it an=20 acceptable risk element - our insurers did say that it was demonstrably = safer=20 than playing rugby [similar to American football, but without the=20 padding].
 
As for=20 the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar = got=20 battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy=20 ending.
 
Gu=F0rum
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy=20 [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

Ahhhhh  yes that could be a major  = OOOPS!!!!   Have=20 any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? 
kathy

Yes.=20 Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing=20 down
the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators=20 :(

Gu=F0rum

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9FC.2628D9D0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:47:51 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:47:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113154751.80100.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-81518920-1068738471=:78875 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby! With or without padding... Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear there was a happy ending. Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun. Kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American football, but without the padding]. As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy ending. Guðrum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Ahhhhh yes that could be a major OOOPS!!!! Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? kathy Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :( Guðrum --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-81518920-1068738471=:78875 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thats interesting   to know that insurers consider  swatting  someone about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby!  With or without padding...

Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear there was a happy ending.
Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun.
 
Kathy
"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American football, but without the padding].
 
As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy ending.
 
Guðrum
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

Ahhhhh  yes that could be a major  OOOPS!!!!   Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? 
kathy

Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down
the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :(

Guðrum

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-81518920-1068738471=:78875-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:53:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:53:58 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun References: <20031113154751.80100.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003201c3a9fe$5cd29dc0$eca97ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C3A9FE.5949C520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable now if you really want to see gudrun run ..go after him with a ladle:) vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone = about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing = Rugby! With or without padding... Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to = hear there was a happy ending. Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun. Kathy=20 "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if = they want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual = in the UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field = of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. = Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our = insurers did say that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby = [similar to American football, but without the padding]. As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] = and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a = happy ending. Gu=F0rum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Ahhhhh yes that could be a major OOOPS!!!! Have any problem = getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? =20 kathy=20 Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're = facing down the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :( Gu=F0rum -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C3A9FE.5949C520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
now if you really want to see gudrun = run ..go after=20 him with a ladle:)
vara
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Thursday, November 13, = 2003 3:47=20 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA]=20 Swords/Gudrun

Thats interesting   to know that insurers=20 consider  swatting  someone about the head = and shoulders=20 with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby!  With or without=20 padding...

Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am = pleased to=20 hear there was a happy ending.
Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun.
 
Kathy
"Nicholson, Andrew"=20 <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
No=20 problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they = want to=20 take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the = UK for=20 someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. = I=20 suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally = I've=20 always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did = say that=20 it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American = football,=20 but without the padding].
 
As=20 for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and = Hrothgar=20 got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy=20 ending.
 
Gu=F0rum
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy=20 [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

Ahhhhh  yes that could be a major  = OOOPS!!!!  =20 Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? 
kathy

Yes.=20 Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're = facing=20 down
the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators=20 = :(

Gu=F0rum

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C3A9FE.5949C520-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:58:59 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:58:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun In-Reply-To: <003201c3a9fe$5cd29dc0$eca97ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031113155859.54707.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-356276206-1068739139=:49766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ROTFLMAO now would that be with or without full armor..... or do you wear armor? kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: now if you really want to see gudrun run ..go after him with a ladle:) vara ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby! With or without padding... Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear there was a happy ending. Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun. Kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American football, but without the padding]. As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy ending. Guðrum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Ahhhhh yes that could be a major OOOPS!!!! Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? kathy Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :( Guðrum --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-356276206-1068739139=:49766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ROTFLMAO    now would that be with or without  full armor..... or do you  wear armor?  
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
now if you really want to see gudrun run ..go after him with a ladle:)
vara
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun

Thats interesting   to know that insurers consider  swatting  someone about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby!  With or without padding...

Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear there was a happy ending.
Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun.
 
Kathy
"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American football, but without the padding].
 
As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy ending.
 
Guðrum
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

Ahhhhh  yes that could be a major  OOOPS!!!!   Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? 
kathy

Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down
the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :(

Guðrum

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-356276206-1068739139=:49766-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 15:59:23 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:59:23 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9FF.1B531450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Vara...Who's Gudrun? =20 G. =20 I know, no--one taught you English how to spell [or Hrolf killed all = the priests...] -----Original Message----- From: Hrolf Douglasson [mailto:Hrolf@btinternet.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 15:54 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun now if you really want to see gudrun run ..go after him with a ladle:) vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy =20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net =20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone = about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby! = With or without padding... Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear there was a happy ending. Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun. =20 Kathy=20 "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they = want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the = UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say = that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American = football, but without the padding]. =20 As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a = happy ending. =20 Gu=F0rum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Ahhhhh yes that could be a major OOOPS!!!! Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? =20 kathy=20 Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing = down the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :( Gu=F0rum _____ =20 Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with = Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9FF.1B531450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hey Vara...Who's Gudrun?
 
G.
 
I know, no--one taught you English how to spell [or Hrolf killed all the priests...]
-----Original Message-----
From: Hrolf Douglasson [mailto:Hrolf@btinternet.com]
Sent: 13 November 2003 15:54
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun

now if you really want to see gudrun run ..go after him with a ladle:)
vara
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun

Thats interesting   to know that insurers consider  swatting  someone about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing Rugby!  With or without padding...

Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear there was a happy ending.
Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun.
 
Kathy
"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
No problems with Third Party liability. Its up to individuals if they want to take out inter-member liability. It would be *very* unusual in the UK for someone to sue you for an accidental injury on the field of battle. I suspect they would have to *prove* 'malicious intent'. Personally I've always considered it an acceptable risk element - our insurers did say that it was demonstrably safer than playing rugby [similar to American football, but without the padding].
 
As for the Saxon, some nice chap threw me a dane-axe [no kidding] and Hrothgar got battered backwards to his own lines :) - nothing like a happy ending.
 
Guðrum
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

Ahhhhh  yes that could be a major  OOOPS!!!!   Have any problem getting insurance.???Hmmmm??? 
kathy

Yes. Nothing like having your blade snap at the hilt when you're facing down
the Saxon Army's champion in front of 8,000 spectators :(

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3A9FF.1B531450-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:02:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Allan McVie) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:02:38 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun In-Reply-To: <20031113154751.80100.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20031113155702.00b0fb30@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> At 07:47 13/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone >about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing >Rugby! With or without padding... > >Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear >there was a happy ending. >Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun. > >Kathy There may be a slight mix up here, when Andy is talking about live steel he is meaning blunt not sharp which I have heard called live steel from left pondians. And Vara we will not have any ladle talk here ;-) Allan (booking an appointment at the panel beaters for his helmet) Allan McVie 28 Barlogan Quad., Glasgow G52 1AH 0141 883 1624 amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:07:26 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:07:26 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E48F2@MAILSERVER-UK> Hi Having attended events in NA, I'm afraid that 'Live steel' is a common = term for all steel combat, bluted or otherwise amongst the Leftpondians. Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien -----Original Message----- From: Allan McVie [mailto:amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:03 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun At 07:47 13/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone=20 >about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing=20 >Rugby! With or without padding... From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:10:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:10:58 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun Message-ID: Hi Having attended events in NA, I'm afraid that 'Live steel' is a common = term for all steel combat, bluted or otherwise amongst the Leftpondians. Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm --ah, but as you know it is a term some of us Leftpondians are trying to = discourage;) You've seen first hand how stubborn some folks are about it;) Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:15:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:15:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20031113155702.00b0fb30@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20031113161554.64636.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-588100957-1068740154=:63853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmm had to stop and think for a moment what a left pondian was.. But thanks for the clarification, Allan.. My we are all in a chatty mood this morning Well it is morning here in Vancouver area.. late afternoon, early evening in Glagow?? And pray tell, M'Lord, why will there be no talk of ladles here? Hmmmm? Inquiring minds would like to know Kathy Ps.. i have a serious question for y'all.. My partner and i have 'personas' that come from two different cultures. Mine is a 12th century Celtic widow, lving on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland.. and my partner's is that of a Norse who came to my door one day, and actually offered to buy some of my cattle to feed his men! I was so surprised at his civility that i invited him in to share my table and he has been around ever since.. now.. it is my understanding that surnames as we know them now were not in use way back then and patronymics and so on were used to indicate lineage and even place of origin. Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of kjeld. My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach.. We would like to find a translation that means 'wfie of kjeldsen " any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject Kathy Allan McVie wrote: At 07:47 13/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone >about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing >Rugby! With or without padding... > >Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear >there was a happy ending. >Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun. > >Kathy There may be a slight mix up here, when Andy is talking about live steel he is meaning blunt not sharp which I have heard called live steel from left pondians. And Vara we will not have any ladle talk here ;-) Allan (booking an appointment at the panel beaters for his helmet) Allan McVie 28 Barlogan Quad., Glasgow G52 1AH 0141 883 1624 amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-588100957-1068740154=:63853 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hmm had to stop and think for a moment what a left pondian was..  But thanks for the clarification, Allan..  My we are all in a chatty mood this morning 
Well it is morning here in Vancouver area..  late afternoon, early evening in Glagow??
And pray tell, M'Lord, why will there be no talk of ladles here? Hmmmm? Inquiring minds would like to know
 
Kathy
Ps..  i have a serious question for y'all.. My partner and i have 'personas' that come from two different cultures. Mine is a 12th century Celtic widow, lving on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland.. and my partner's is that of a Norse who came to my door one day, and actually  offered to buy some of my cattle to feed his men!  I was so surprised at his civility  that i invited him in to share my table and he has been around ever since..
now.. it is my understanding that  surnames as we know them now were not in use way back then  and  patronymics and so on were used to  indicate lineage and even place of origin.
Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of kjeld.   My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach..  We would like to find a translation that means  'wfie of kjeldsen "   any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject
Kathy

Allan McVie <amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk> wrote:
At 07:47 13/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Thats interesting to know that insurers consider swatting someone
>about the head and shoulders with live steel to be safer than playing
>Rugby! With or without padding...
>
>Trying to remember what a dane-ax looks like.. but i am pleased to hear
>there was a happy ending.
>Sounds like you folks have waaaaaaaaaaayyyy too much fun.
>
>Kathy


There may be a slight mix up here, when Andy is talking about live steel he
is meaning blunt not sharp which I have heard called live steel from left
pondians.

And Vara we will not have any ladle talk here ;-)

Allan (booking an appointment at the panel beaters for his helmet)


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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-588100957-1068740154=:63853-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:21:31 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:21:31 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA02.32879A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About 16.20 over here [end of another day's work]. =20 No talk of ladles because, especially where Vara is concerned, it can = be a *sore* subject ;). (ducks, and runs for cover) =20 With regards to your translation what are you looking for, English to Gaelic, or Gaelic to Norse? =20 Gu=F0rum =20 -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 16:16 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query=20 Hmm had to stop and think for a moment what a left pondian was.. But = thanks for the clarification, Allan.. My we are all in a chatty mood this = morning Well it is morning here in Vancouver area.. late afternoon, early = evening in Glagow?? And pray tell, M'Lord, why will there be no talk of ladles here? Hmmmm? Inquiring minds would like to know =20 Kathy=20 Ps.. i have a serious question for y'all.. My partner and i have = 'personas' that come from two different cultures. Mine is a 12th century Celtic = widow, lving on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland.. and my partner's is that of a Norse who came to my door one day, and actually offered to buy some of my cattle to feed his men! I was so surprised = at his civility that i invited him in to share my table and he has been = around ever since.. now.. it is my understanding that surnames as we know them now were = not in use way back then and patronymics and so on were used to indicate = lineage and even place of origin. Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place = name or indicates he is the son of kjeld. My persona's name is Catriona = ingen Mhuirdeach.. We would like to find a translation that means 'wfie of kjeldsen " any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject=20 Kathy=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA02.32879A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
About=20 16.20 over here [end of another day's work].
 
No=20 talk of ladles because, especially where Vara is concerned, it can be a = *sore*=20 subject ;).
(ducks, and runs for=20 cover)
 
With=20 regards to your translation what are you looking for, English to = Gaelic, or=20 Gaelic to Norse?
 
Gu=F0rum
 
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From: Kathy=20 [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]
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Hmm had to stop and think for a moment what a left pondian = was.. =20 But thanks for the clarification, Allan..  My we are all in a = chatty mood=20 this morning 
Well it is morning here in Vancouver area..  late = afternoon, early=20 evening in Glagow??
And pray tell, M'Lord, why will there be no talk of ladles here? = Hmmmm?=20 Inquiring minds would like to know
 
Kathy
Ps..  i have a serious question for y'all.. My partner and = i have=20 'personas' that come from two different cultures. Mine is a 12th = century=20 Celtic widow, lving on one of the Islands off the west coast of = Scotland.. and=20 my partner's is that of a Norse who came to my door one day, and=20 actually  offered to buy some of my cattle to feed his = men!  I was=20 so surprised at his civility  that i invited him in to share my = table and=20 he has been around ever since..
now.. it is my understanding that  surnames as we know them = now were=20 not in use way back then  and  patronymics and so on were = used=20 to  indicate lineage and even place of origin.
Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a = place=20 name or indicates he is the son of kjeld.   My persona's = name is=20 Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach..  We would like to find a translation = that=20 means  'wfie of kjeldsen "   any one have any = brilliant=20 ideas on the subject
Kathy
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA02.32879A30-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:27:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113162755.69794.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1655579503-1068740875=:66972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ah.. it is 8:24 am over here in Leftpondia.. grin. As for the translation in question.. Hmmm Probably Gaelic to Norse.. as for ladles.. now you have really piqued my curiosity K "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: About 16.20 over here [end of another day's work]. No talk of ladles because, especially where Vara is concerned, it can be a *sore* subject ;). (ducks, and runs for cover) With regards to your translation what are you looking for, English to Gaelic, or Gaelic to Norse? Guðrum -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 16:16 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query Hmm had to stop and think for a moment what a left pondian was.. But thanks for the clarification, Allan.. My we are all in a chatty mood this morning Well it is morning here in Vancouver area.. late afternoon, early evening in Glagow?? And pray tell, M'Lord, why will there be no talk of ladles here? Hmmmm? Inquiring minds would like to know Kathy Ps.. i have a serious question for y'all.. My partner and i have 'personas' that come from two different cultures. Mine is a 12th century Celtic widow, lving on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland.. and my partner's is that of a Norse who came to my door one day, and actually offered to buy some of my cattle to feed his men! I was so surprised at his civility that i invited him in to share my table and he has been around ever since.. now.. it is my understanding that surnames as we know them now were not in use way back then and patronymics and so on were used to indicate lineage and even place of origin. Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of kjeld. My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach.. We would like to find a translation that means 'wfie of kjeldsen " any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject Kathy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1655579503-1068740875=:66972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ah.. it is 8:24 am over here in Leftpondia.. grin.
As for the translation in  question.. Hmmm  Probably Gaelic to Norse..
as for ladles.. now you have really piqued my curiosity
 
K

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
About 16.20 over here [end of another day's work].
 
No talk of ladles because, especially where Vara is concerned, it can be a *sore* subject ;).
(ducks, and runs for cover)
 
With regards to your translation what are you looking for, English to Gaelic, or Gaelic to Norse?
 
Guðrum
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]
Sent: 13 November 2003 16:16
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query

Hmm had to stop and think for a moment what a left pondian was..  But thanks for the clarification, Allan..  My we are all in a chatty mood this morning 
Well it is morning here in Vancouver area..  late afternoon, early evening in Glagow??
And pray tell, M'Lord, why will there be no talk of ladles here? Hmmmm? Inquiring minds would like to know
 
Kathy
Ps..  i have a serious question for y'all.. My partner and i have 'personas' that come from two different cultures. Mine is a 12th century Celtic widow, lving on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland.. and my partner's is that of a Norse who came to my door one day, and actually  offered to buy some of my cattle to feed his men!  I was so surprised at his civility  that i invited him in to share my table and he has been around ever since..
now.. it is my understanding that  surnames as we know them now were not in use way back then  and  patronymics and so on were used to  indicate lineage and even place of origin.
Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of kjeld.   My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach..  We would like to find a translation that means  'wfie of kjeldsen "   any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject
Kathy

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1655579503-1068740875=:66972-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:31:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:31:08 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] MWM seeks German speaker (no this isn't spam!) Message-ID: Greetings all I was recently forwarded two rare articles on the St. Wenceslas Helm. The articles are both entitled Der sogenannte St.-Wenzels-Helm and are = written by Dagmar Hejdov=E1 They appear in two separate issues of Waffen- und Kostumkunde so they = are both in German. Both articles combined are over 30 pages, I have found someone who is = willing to help translate but to keep her from having to do all 30 pages = by herself I was hoping to find others to help. If your interested please contact me Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:38:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:38:16 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA04.89B70550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 3 foot long iron ladle in the hands of an outraged lady - the MOST-feared weapon on a Regia site :-) Once hit, never forgotten...and no, I didn't have a helm on at the time [though I have seen one helm with a dent half an inch deep and five inches across after its Norman wearer came into a village *demanding* taxes]. G. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] ah.. it is 8:24 am over here in Leftpondia.. grin. As for the translation in question.. Hmmm Probably Gaelic to Norse.. as for ladles.. now you have really piqued my curiosity ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA04.89B70550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
3 foot long iron ladle in the hands of an outraged lady - the MOST-feared weapon on a Regia site :-)
 
Once hit, never forgotten...and no, I didn't have a helm on at the time [though I have seen one helm with a dent half an inch deep and five inches across after its Norman wearer came into a village *demanding* taxes].
 
G.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

ah.. it is 8:24 am over here in Leftpondia.. grin.
As for the translation in  question.. Hmmm  Probably Gaelic to Norse..
as for ladles.. now you have really piqued my curiosity
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA04.89B70550-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:45:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:45:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113164529.96803.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-197495933-1068741929=:95884 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ROTFLMAO Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all that jazz.. Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm? And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice before 'demanding' taxes again.. K "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: 3 foot long iron ladle in the hands of an outraged lady - the MOST-feared weapon on a Regia site :-) Once hit, never forgotten...and no, I didn't have a helm on at the time [though I have seen one helm with a dent half an inch deep and five inches across after its Norman wearer came into a village *demanding* taxes]. G. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] ah.. it is 8:24 am over here in Leftpondia.. grin. As for the translation in question.. Hmmm Probably Gaelic to Norse.. as for ladles.. now you have really piqued my curiosity --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-197495933-1068741929=:95884 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ROTFLMAO   Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all that jazz.. 
Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm?
 
And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice before 'demanding' taxes again..
K

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
3 foot long iron ladle in the hands of an outraged lady - the MOST-feared weapon on a Regia site :-)
 
Once hit, never forgotten...and no, I didn't have a helm on at the time [though I have seen one helm with a dent half an inch deep and five inches across after its Norman wearer came into a village *demanding* taxes].
 
G.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]

ah.. it is 8:24 am over here in Leftpondia.. grin.
As for the translation in  question.. Hmmm  Probably Gaelic to Norse..
as for ladles.. now you have really piqued my curiosity
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-197495933-1068741929=:95884-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:47:09 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:47:09 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <4e.245c16c1.2ce50f8d@aol.com> --part1_4e.245c16c1.2ce50f8d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 13/11/2003 16:17:40 GMT Standard Time, kth62@yahoo.com writes: > Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name > or indicates he is the son of kjeld. My persona's name is Catriona ingen > Mhuirdeach.. We would like to find a translation that means 'wfie of > kjeldsen " any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject Over to you Vara... Aly --part1_4e.245c16c1.2ce50f8d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 13/11/2003 16:17:40 GMT Standard Ti= me, kth62@yahoo.com writes:


Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen..= and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of k= jeld.   My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach..  We=20= would like to find a translation that means  'wfie of kjeldsen " &= nbsp; any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject


Over to you Vara...

Aly --part1_4e.245c16c1.2ce50f8d_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:49:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:49:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query /Vara In-Reply-To: <4e.245c16c1.2ce50f8d@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031113164907.98610.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-612204013-1068742147=:98583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, Vara.. i take it you are the authority on such matters? K Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 13/11/2003 16:17:40 GMT Standard Time, kth62@yahoo.com writes: Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of kjeld. My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach.. We would like to find a translation that means 'wfie of kjeldsen " any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject Over to you Vara... Aly --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-612204013-1068742147=:98583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yes, Vara..  i take it you are the authority on such matters?
K

Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 13/11/2003 16:17:40 GMT Standard Time, kth62@yahoo.com writes:


Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name or indicates he is the son of kjeld.   My persona's name is Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach..  We would like to find a translation that means  'wfie of kjeldsen "   any one have any brilliant ideas on the subject


Over to you Vara...

Aly

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-612204013-1068742147=:98583-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:50:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:50:00 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA06.2D8E1DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I couldn't possibly remember... I think it had something to do with sheep. Baaaaa. G. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 16:45 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query ROTFLMAO Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all that jazz.. Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm? And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice before 'demanding' taxes again.. K ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA06.2D8E1DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
I couldn't possibly remember... I think it had something to do with sheep.  Baaaaa.
 
G.
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ROTFLMAO   Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all that jazz.. 
Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm?
 
And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice before 'demanding' taxes again..
K

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA06.2D8E1DC0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 16:57:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:57:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113165736.12748.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1889128506-1068742656=:12058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ummmmmmmm i dont think i really want to go there on that one......LOL "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote:I couldn't possibly remember... I think it had something to do with sheep. Baaaaa. G. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 16:45 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query ROTFLMAO Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all that jazz.. Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm? And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice before 'demanding' taxes again.. K --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1889128506-1068742656=:12058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ummmmmmmm   i dont think i really want to go there on that one......LOL

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
I couldn't possibly remember... I think it had something to do with sheep.  Baaaaa.
 
G.
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ROTFLMAO   Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all that jazz.. 
Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm?
 
And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice before 'demanding' taxes again..
K

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Thanks Cory   we are still working on this  and  i can see we have some 'bugs' to iron out.. 
K

Cory Nielsen <cnielsen@connect2.com> wrote:
Kathy writes:

"Bjorn's last name is Kjeldsen.. and we are not sure if that is a place name
or indicates he is the son of kjeld."

The -sen ending indicates it's a patronymic. Something to keep in mind,
though, is that (unless I'm mistaken) the "son of" ending would take the
form of -son following the genetive case of the father's name during the
period you're talking about. The -sen ending developed later in Scandinavian
areas including Denmark (hence my RL surname).

Could be wrong, in which case I'm certain somebody will correct me. :)

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2012784610-1068744355=:15967-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:47:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kitten *) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:47:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? In-Reply-To: <20031113165736.12748.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031113165736.12748.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hi all, does anyone know of a good textile glossary on the web, in a book, anywhere? I'm trying to do the research, have got books and keep running into terms that I don't know. Please help... Karen, frustrated From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:44:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:44:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113174428.27106.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-170835968-1068745468=:23547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Karen what exactly are you looking for,, fabric names? ????/ Kathy Kitten * wrote: hi all, does anyone know of a good textile glossary on the web, in a book, anywhere? I'm trying to do the research, have got books and keep running into terms that I don't know. Please help... Karen, frustrated _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-170835968-1068745468=:23547 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Karen   what exactly are you looking for,,   fabric names?  ????/ 
 
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-170835968-1068745468=:23547-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:46:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:46:56 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <55.4ad944b7.2ce51d90@aol.com> --part1_55.4ad944b7.2ce51d90_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, The reason I suggested Vara is because her name is Elvara Hrolfswiffe - but I might not have spelt it right. Isn't that exactly the sort of thing you're looking for? Aly --part1_55.4ad944b7.2ce51d90_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there,

The reason I suggested Vara is because her name is Elvara Hrolfswiffe - but=20= I might not have spelt it right.  Isn't that exactly the sort of thing=20= you're looking for?

Aly --part1_55.4ad944b7.2ce51d90_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:48:31 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:48:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113174831.18031.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2107687360-1068745711=:15172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try this link Kitten and see if it is of any help to you http://www.nvo.com/mertngvid/textileglossarypage1of3pages/ kathy Kitten * wrote: hi all, does anyone know of a good textile glossary on the web, in a book, anywhere? I'm trying to do the research, have got books and keep running into terms that I don't know. Please help... Karen, frustrated _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2107687360-1068745711=:15172 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Try this link Kitten and see if it is of any help to you
 
kathy

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2107687360-1068745711=:15172-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:56:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:56:13 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? References: <20031113174831.18031.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3A9E5.848799B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have found this book helpful: Textiles: A classification of techniques by Annemarie Seiler-Baldinger ISBN: 1-86333-110-7 --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: HSCRTNHG To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? Try this link Kitten and see if it is of any help to you http://www.nvo.com/mertngvid/textileglossarypage1of3pages/ kathy=20 Kitten * wrote: hi all, does anyone know of a good textile glossary on the web, in a book, anywhere? I'm trying to do the research, have got books and keep running into = terms that I don't know. Please help... Karen, frustrated _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3A9E5.848799B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Textiles:  A classification of=20 techniques
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ISBN:  1-86333-110-7
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] textile = glossary?

Try this link Kitten and see if it is of any help to you
 
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Kitten * <kitten@golden.net> = wrote:

hi=20 all,

does anyone know of a good textile glossary on the web, = in a=20 book,
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I'm trying to do the research, have got = books and=20 keep running into terms
that I don't know.

Please=20 help...

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C3A9E5.848799B0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:55:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:55:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: <55.4ad944b7.2ce51d90@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031113175545.15989.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1539234484-1068746145=:13525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes it is Aly! thanks ever so much Kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: Hi there, The reason I suggested Vara is because her name is Elvara Hrolfswiffe - but I might not have spelt it right. Isn't that exactly the sort of thing you're looking for? Aly --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1539234484-1068746145=:13525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yes it is Aly! thanks ever so much 
 
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Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote:
Hi there,

The reason I suggested Vara is because her name is Elvara Hrolfswiffe - but I might not have spelt it right.  Isn't that exactly the sort of thing you're looking for?

Aly

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1539234484-1068746145=:13525-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 18:08:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kitten *) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:08:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? In-Reply-To: <20031113174428.27106.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031113174428.27106.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Kathy wrote: > Hi Karen what exactly are you looking for,, fabric names? ????/ Everything. I don't know what I'm going to encounter next! I'm in heavy research mode at the moment, although relatively new to textile stuff. Some terms are obvious, some I've picked up over the last year but others...I need help. Outstanding right now....from Lise Bender Jorgensen's "North European Textiles until 1000 AD", she uses the terms 'hard spun' and 'soft spun' - huh? I could take a guess, but I'd prefer not to just do that. Also...'repp'. Someone on Norsefolk just posted a definition but in the process threw in even more freaking terms that I hadn't known. I feel swamped. Karen From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 17:58:48 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:58:48 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <23.3779afa2.2ce52058@aol.com> --part1_23.3779afa2.2ce52058_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia name ande she can explain the whole system. Aly --part1_23.3779afa2.2ce52058_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her= Regia name ande she can explain the whole system.

Aly --part1_23.3779afa2.2ce52058_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 18:07:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:07:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: <23.3779afa2.2ce52058@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031113180744.24347.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2044834017-1068746864=:23755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks, aly I will Vara.. care to jump in here now and help me out with this name business.. Please pretty please kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia name ande she can explain the whole system. Aly --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2044834017-1068746864=:23755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks, aly   I will
 
 Vara..  care to jump in here now and help me out with this name business.. Please pretty please
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Aly

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2044834017-1068746864=:23755-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 18:08:53 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:08:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113180854.25195.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1074895806-1068746933=:24155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Charlotte.. i will file that title away myself for future refrence Kathy crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote: I have found this book helpful: Textiles: A classification of techniques by Annemarie Seiler-Baldinger ISBN: 1-86333-110-7 --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? Try this link Kitten and see if it is of any help to you http://www.nvo.com/mertngvid/textileglossarypage1of3pages/ kathy Kitten * wrote: hi all, does anyone know of a good textile glossary on the web, in a book, anywhere? I'm trying to do the research, have got books and keep running into terms that I don't know. Please help... Karen, frustrated _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1074895806-1068746933=:24155 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks Charlotte..  i will file that title away myself for future refrence
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crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote:
I have found this book helpful:
 
Textiles:  A classification of techniques
by Annemarie Seiler-Baldinger
ISBN:  1-86333-110-7
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] textile glossary?

Try this link Kitten and see if it is of any help to you
 
kathy

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1074895806-1068746933=:24155-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 18:15:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:15:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] textile glossary? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113181533.57331.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-775849550-1068747333=:53380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ah I see.. very early textiles.. wish i could be more help, but i am probably even more in the dark about medieval textiles than you are.. But do keep us posted. Hmm the term Repp sounds familiar. What exactly is it you are doing the research for? personal use or university courses? Kathy Kitten * wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Kathy wrote: > Hi Karen what exactly are you looking for,, fabric names? ????/ Everything. I don't know what I'm going to encounter next! I'm in heavy research mode at the moment, although relatively new to textile stuff. Some terms are obvious, some I've picked up over the last year but others...I need help. Outstanding right now....from Lise Bender Jorgensen's "North European Textiles until 1000 AD", she uses the terms 'hard spun' and 'soft spun' - huh? I could take a guess, but I'd prefer not to just do that. Also...'repp'. Someone on Norsefolk just posted a definition but in the process threw in even more freaking terms that I hadn't known. I feel swamped. Karen _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-775849550-1068747333=:53380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ah I see..  very early textiles.. wish i could be more help, but i am probably even more  in the dark about  medieval textiles than you are.. But do keep us posted.
 
Hmm the term Repp sounds familiar.
What exactly is it you are doing the research for? personal use or university courses?
Kathy

Kitten * <kitten@golden.net> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Kathy wrote:

> Hi Karen what exactly are you looking for,, fabric names? ????/

Everything. I don't know what I'm going to encounter next!

I'm in heavy research mode at the moment, although relatively new to
textile stuff. Some terms are obvious, some I've picked up over the last
year but others...I need help.

Outstanding right now....from Lise Bender Jorgensen's "North European
Textiles until 1000 AD", she uses the terms 'hard spun' and 'soft spun' -
huh? I could take a guess, but I'd prefer not to just do that.

Also...'repp'. Someone on Norsefolk just posted a definition but in the
process threw in even more freaking terms that I hadn't known. I feel
swamped.

Karen

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I found this site as well Karen  Hope it helps  even a little
Kathy

Kathy <kth62@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ah I see..  very early textiles.. wish i could be more help, but i am probably even more  in the dark about  medieval textiles than you are.. But do keep us posted.
 
Hmm the term Repp sounds familiar.
What exactly is it you are doing the research for? personal use or university courses?
Kathy

Kitten * <kitten@golden.net> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Kathy wrote:

> Hi Karen what exactly are you looking for,, fabric names? ????/

Everything. I don't know what I'm going to encounter next!

I'm in heavy research mode at the moment, although relatively new to
textile stuff. Some terms are obvious, some I've picked up over the last
year but others...I need help.

Outstanding right now....from Lise Bender Jorgensen's "North European
Textiles until 1000 AD", she uses the terms 'hard spun' and 'soft spun' -
huh? I could take a guess, but I'd prefer not to just do that.

Also...'repp'. Someone on Norsefolk just posted a definition but in the
process threw in even more freaking terms that I hadn't known. I feel
swamped.

Karen

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-573453325-1068747798=:36553-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 18:29:52 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Phil Scott) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:29:52 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives References: <12c.3514dac9.2ce4b920@aol.com> Message-ID: <011301c3aa14$2c3f9c60$8b5808c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C3AA14.20CCDAF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I always liked John Gillingham's comment: It's no so much William the = Bastard as, William the lucky bastard! Phil ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cuthwyn@aol.com=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"?=20 -- Tracie Bearing in mind the length of his indoctrination on our side of the = pond, might I suggest "My Lord Lucky Bastard" - for your own protection, = you understand..... Aly "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly" (lost the = author's name with my last computer) ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C3AA14.20CCDAF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I always liked John Gillingham's = comment: It's no=20 so much William the Bastard as, William the lucky bastard!
 
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cuthwyn@aol.com=20
Sent: Thursday, November 13, = 2003 10:38=20 AM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] = Battlefield=20 Detectives



Does this mean we can address him as "The = Lucky=20 Bastard"?

-- Tracie

Bearing in mind the length of his=20 indoctrination on our side of the pond, might I suggest "My Lord Lucky = Bastard" - for your own protection, you=20 understand.....

Aly

"Angels can fly because they take = themselves=20 lightly"  (lost the author's name with my last computer)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D3_01C3AA14.20CCDAF0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 18:42:27 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Williams) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:42:27 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun References: Message-ID: <3FB3D093.6040900@oswiu.u-net.com> Nicholson, Andrew wrote: > Hey Vara...Who's Gudrun? > > G. > > I know, no--one taught you English how to spell > [or Hrolf killed all the priests...] I heard that Aethelstan was an acceptable way to spell Guthrum in some parts.... not those parts governed by my Lord-Predecessor, of course... Pax Oswiu From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 20:14:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:14:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: <12054568.1068754473417.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005> ------=_Part_13322_30466632.1068754473414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amen brother!!! Bill (Leifr) Message date : Nov 13 2003, 02:59 PM=20 >From : Nicholson, Andrew=20 To : 'list-regia-na@lig.net'=20 Copy to :=20 Subject : RE: [Regia-NA] Swords=20 Yes,=20 very much so. Same goes for axes and spears. size=3D2>=20 size=3D2>Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :) size=3D2>=20 size=3D2>Gu=F0rum size=3D2>=20 size=3D2>=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px soli= d">=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message----- From: Kathy=20 [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55 To:=20 list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA]=20 Swords I take it from this discussion that the blades used be Regia =20 are live steel as opposed to the rattan and duct tape constructions used= =20 in SCA tourneys? kathy=20 Steve Etheridge=20 wrote: style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px soli= d">>From:=20 "Martin Field"=20 >Someone has asked me=20 about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on=20 >these. >Are they suitable for Regia combat ? If they=20 are the swords that I think that they are, then they are not. The=20 blades=20 are of poor quality - I have heard of one snapping for no reason - so=20 don't waste your money. As a general rule, you should be able to=20 bend a decent sword blade and have=20 it spring back into shape. I do it by=20 resting a point on a hard surface,=20 holding the pommel in my hand and=20 leaning down on it. You should feel the=20 blade bending progressively, and=20 as you release the weight, you should feel=20 the spring throughout the=20 whole blade. This ensures that the blade will not=20 shatter or stay bent=20 when struck. You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a=20 blad e of known=20 quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades=20 will bur, but it is=20 important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask=20 yourself if you would like=20 to be struck by a blade with that sort of=20 burr on it. You should do at least the first test (for spring) before=20 you by a blade.=20 Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will not let you=20 do it, then walk=20 away from the sword - even if it comes from a reputable=20 manufacturer. To illustrate the point - A friend of mine brought a=20 blade off of one of=20 the most well known blacksmiths. It hadn't been=20 tempered properly, and on=20 it's first time out we had to do a showfight=20 for the BBC. I turned it into=20 something resembling a rip-saw. The smith,=20 being a reputable guy, replaced=20 it for free with no hard=20 feelings. Hope this helps. Steve BTW, Martin, I'll send=20 you some photos of your shield when I can dig out a=20 digital=20 camera _________________________________________________________________ On=20 the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone=20 http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _______________________________________________ list-regia-na=20 mailing=20 list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na Do you Yahoo!? Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_Part_13322_30466632.1068754473414 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Amen brother!!!

 

Bill (Leifr)



Message date : Nov 13 2003, 02:59 PM
From : Nicholson, A= ndrew
To : 'list-regia-na@lig.net'
Copy to :
Subject : RE: [Regia-NA] Swords






Yes,
very much so. Same goes for axes and spears.<= /DIV>
size=3D2> 

size=3D2>Unchoreographed live steel - nothing to beat it :)

size=3D2> 

size=3D2>Gu=F0rum

size=3D2> 

size=3D2> 

style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid">
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy
[mai= lto:kth62@yahoo.com]
Sent: 13 November 2003 14:55
To: <= BR>list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA]
Swords

I take it from this discussion that the blades used  be Regia&nbs= p;
are live steel as opposed to the  rattan and duct tape construc= tions used
in SCA   tourneys?

kathy

Steve Etheridge
= wrote:

style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px= ; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">>From:
"Martin Field"

>Someone has asked me
about Paul Chen swords= - does anyone have the scoop on

>these.
>Are they suitabl= e for Regia combat ?

If they
are the swords that I think that th= ey are, then they are not. The
blades
are of poor quality - I have = heard of one snapping for no reason - so

don't waste your money.
As a general rule, you should be able to
bend a decent sword blade= and have
it spring back into shape. I do it by
resting a point on = a hard surface,
holding the pommel in my hand and
leaning down on i= t. You should feel the
blade bending progressively, and
as you rele= ase the weight, you should feel
the spring throughout the
whole bla= de. This ensures that the blade will not
shatter or stay bent
when = struck.

You can test a blade's toughness by striking it with a
b= lad e of known
quality and examining the burr on the blade. All blades =
will bur, but it is
important that the burrs are not too deep. Ask =
yourself if you would like
to be struck by a blade with that sort o= f
burr on it.

You should do at least the first test (for spring)= before
you by a blade.
Ask the vendor first, of course. If he will= not let you
do it, then walk
away from the sword - even if it come= s from a reputable
manufacturer.

To illustrate the point - A fri= end of mine brought a
blade off of one of
the most well known black= smiths. It hadn't been
tempered properly, and on
it's first time ou= t we had to do a showfight
for the BBC. I turned it into
something = resembling a rip-saw. The smith,
being a reputable guy, replaced
it= for free with no hard
feelings.

Hope this helps.

Steve
BTW, Martin, I'll send
you some photos of your shield when I can = dig out a
digital
camera

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<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_Part_13322_30466632.1068754473414-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 21:12:32 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Arthur) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:12:32 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Message-ID: <01C3A9F0.2EF6D780.valhalla_hes@direcway.com> I have one. $75 on ebay + $15 shipping. Shinny piece of steel but of poor quality, still fun to see in the moonlight. The edge is too thin for Regia combat and the steel not good enough for it either. Kjartan Thorkelsson ____________________ Matthew 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Field [SMTP:marfield66@sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:39 PM To: REGIA ANGLORUM NA Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords Someone has asked me about Paul Chen swords - does anyone have the scoop on these. Are they suitable for Regia combat ? Cheers Martin << File: ATT00003.html >> From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:28:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:28:10 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query References: <20031113180744.24347.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004601c3aa35$6cb81da0$db6f7ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3AA35.6B0CDEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm the 'sad' one in the group..picked up a Viking name at birth..Elvara = (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears oaths and punished oath = breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson (Hrolf son of Douglas, = and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe to my name. More = tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are Hrolfsson and = Hrolfsdottir. As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a recalcitrant = warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field full. Anyone know how Alan's helm is? vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query Thanks, aly I will Vara.. care to jump in here now and help me out with this name = business.. Please pretty please kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia name = ande she can explain the whole system. Aly=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3AA35.6B0CDEA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm the 'sad' one in the group..picked = up a Viking=20 name at birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears oaths and = punished=20 oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson (Hrolf son of = Douglas, and=20 yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe to my name. More tittle = than=20 name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are Hrolfsson and=20 Hrolfsdottir.
As for the ladle..I have been known to = take a swing=20 at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field full.
Anyone know how Alan's helm = is?
vara
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Thursday, November 13, = 2003 6:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re:=20 Swords/Gudrun/query

Thanks, aly   I will
 
 Vara..  care to jump in here now and help me out with = this=20 name business.. Please pretty please
kathy

Cuthwyn@aol.com = wrote:
Do=20 ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia name ande = she can=20 explain the whole system.

Aly

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------=_NextPart_000_0043_01C3AA35.6B0CDEA0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:34:51 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:34:51 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website Message-ID: <00b501c3aa36$5bee36c0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C3AA0C.7120A480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first I = tried Google and then I typed in the URL=20 www.mathomhouse.com/regia to no avail. Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are experiencing = the same difficulty. Thanks Martin ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C3AA0C.7120A480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Attempts to access the N.A. Regia = website were=20 unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then I typed in the URL=20
www.mathomhouse.com/regia
to no avail.
Would others on this list confirm = whether or not=20 they are experiencing the same difficulty.
Thanks
Martin
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01C3AA0C.7120A480-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:31:03 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:31:03 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Please Trim Your Posts! Message-ID: Yes, it's that time again. Time to trim your posts. I'm sure this plea has been made before, but this time it's my turn. If you're using the reply function to post to the list, please trim off any extraneous portions of the message you're replying to -- especially if you get the digest version as I do. It's really hard to wade through all the extra text for the real messages. Thanks! Returning to your regularly scheduled list... -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:31:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:31:56 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query References: Message-ID: <006f01c3aa35$f3579de0$db6f7ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C3AA35.F2311F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The lady was outraged because *someone* had suggested that scottish = sheep were prettier than Wirral Ladies.Huph..then kept baa'ing at me all = day. Next time I'll wait till he gets that helm off..or is that wait till his = son's take the helm off for him:) vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicholson, Andrew=20 To: 'list-regia-na@lig.net'=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query=20 I couldn't possibly remember... I think it had something to do with = sheep. Baaaaa. G. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 November 2003 16:45 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query=20 ROTFLMAO Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no fury and all = that jazz.. =20 Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? Hmmm? And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think twice = before 'demanding' taxes again.. K ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C3AA35.F2311F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The lady was outraged because *someone* = had=20 suggested that scottish sheep were prettier than Wirral = Ladies.Huph..then kept=20 baa'ing at me all day.
Next time I'll wait till he gets that = helm off..or=20 is that wait till his son's take the helm off for him:)
vara
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nicholson, Andrew =
Sent: Thursday, November 13, = 2003 4:50=20 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA]=20 Swords/Gudrun/query

I=20 couldn't possibly remember... I think it had something to do with = sheep. =20 Baaaaa.
 
G.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy=20 [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com]
Sent: 13 November 2003=20 16:45
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Sub= ject:=20 RE: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query

ROTFLMAO   Now that i can understand.!!! hell hath no = fury=20 and all that jazz.. 
Next question of course is: why was the lady outraged? = Hmmm?
 
And i would imagine that the Norman in question will think = twice before=20 'demanding' taxes again..
K

------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C3AA35.F2311F40-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:35:09 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:35:09 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA36.651D4BDE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable by using the link provided below the page opened for me =20 Halvgrimr =20 -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On = Behalf Of Martin Field Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:35 PM To: REGIA ANGLORUM NA Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first I = tried Google and then I typed in the URL=20 www.mathomhouse.com/regia to no avail. Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are experiencing = the same difficulty. Thanks Martin =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA36.651D4BDE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
by=20 using the link provided below the page opened for me
 
Halvgrimr
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = list-regia-na-admin@lig.net=20 [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Martin=20 Field
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:35 PM
To: = REGIA=20 ANGLORUM NA
Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. = Website

Attempts to access the N.A. Regia = website were=20 unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then I typed in the URL=20
www.mathomhouse.com/regia
to no avail.
Would others on this list confirm = whether or not=20 they are experiencing the same difficulty.
Thanks
Martin
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AA36.651D4BDE-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:39:59 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:39:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query/Vara In-Reply-To: <004601c3aa35$6cb81da0$db6f7ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031113223959.82855.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-908412090-1068763199=:81775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good to hear from you Vara.. I like your story.. but 'sad' naaah.I;like it.. and your story has helped me figure out how to acknowledge my partnership with 'Bjorn (Not her real name.. much as she might wish it otherwise) At least as far as the SCA goes anyway...... so i think i shall just start signing myself Catriona Bjronswffe at events from now on.. giggle kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: I'm the 'sad' one in the group..picked up a Viking name at birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears oaths and punished oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson (Hrolf son of Douglas, and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe to my name. More tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are Hrolfsson and Hrolfsdottir. As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field full. Anyone know how Alan's helm is? vara ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query Thanks, aly I will Vara.. care to jump in here now and help me out with this name business.. Please pretty please kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia name ande she can explain the whole system. Aly --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-908412090-1068763199=:81775 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Good to hear from you Vara..  I like your story.. but 'sad'    naaah.I;like it..  and your story has  helped me figure out how to acknowledge my partnership with 'Bjorn   (Not her real name.. much as she might wish it otherwise) At least as far as the SCA goes anyway......
so i think i shall just start signing myself  Catriona  Bjronswffe at events from now on..  giggle
 
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
I'm the 'sad' one in the group..picked up a Viking name at birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears oaths and punished oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson (Hrolf son of Douglas, and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe to my name. More tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are Hrolfsson and Hrolfsdottir.
As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field full.
Anyone know how Alan's helm is?
vara
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query

Thanks, aly   I will
 
 Vara..  care to jump in here now and help me out with this name business.. Please pretty please
kathy

Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote:
Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia name ande she can explain the whole system.

Aly

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-908412090-1068763199=:81775-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:41:59 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:41:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031113224159.50889.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1794437360-1068763319=:48792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii worked for me too kathy "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: by using the link provided below the page opened for me Halvgrimr -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Martin Field Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:35 PM To: REGIA ANGLORUM NA Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then I typed in the URL www.mathomhouse.com/regia to no avail. Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are experiencing the same difficulty. Thanks Martin --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1794437360-1068763319=:48792 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
worked for me too
kathy

"Schuster, Robert L." <SchusterRL@umsystem.edu> wrote:
by using the link provided below the page opened for me
 
Halvgrimr
 
-----Original Message-----
From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Martin Field
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:35 PM
To: REGIA ANGLORUM NA
Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website

Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then I typed in the URL
to no avail.
Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are experiencing the same difficulty.
Thanks
Martin
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1794437360-1068763319=:48792-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:43:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:43:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: <006f01c3aa35$f3579de0$db6f7ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031113224354.70202.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2009490446-1068763434=:67970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ROTFLMAO you go, grrrl! kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: The lady was outraged because *someone* had suggested that scottish sheep were prettier than Wirral Ladies.Huph..then kept baa'ing at me all day. Next time I'll wait till he gets that helm off..or is that wait till his son's take the helm off for him:) vara ----- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2009490446-1068763434=:67970 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ROTFLMAO
  you go, grrrl!
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
The lady was outraged because *someone* had suggested that scottish sheep were prettier than Wirral Ladies.Huph..then kept baa'ing at me all day.
Next time I'll wait till he gets that helm off..or is that wait till his son's take the helm off for him:)
vara
 
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We shall consider ourselves duly chastised, Tracie.. 
Kathy

Tracie Brown <trbrown@uga.edu> wrote:
Yes, it's that time again. Time to trim your posts.

I'm sure this plea has been made before, but this time it's
my turn. If you're using the reply function to post to the
list, please trim off any extraneous portions of the message
you're replying to -- especially if you get the digest
version as I do. It's really hard to wade through all the
extra text for the real messages.

Thanks!

Returning to your regularly scheduled list...

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-464373188-1068763501=:51173-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:47:03 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:47:03 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query/Vara References: <20031113223959.82855.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009801c3aa38$11cf61c0$db6f7ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C3AA38.0F5AB840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kathy, Hrolf here. Just to throw a slight spanner into the works... Surviving evidence seems to suggest that people back then didn't bother = much trying to pronounce unfamiliar names; sagas and annals are full of = references to people that only become clear when cross- referenced to = other sources, and the actual "ethnic" version of the name appears. = Bjorn is unlikely to have been overly familiar with Catriona as a name, = and may well have bastardised it into something like Katja, kat, etc. It = never hurts to be prepared for these events ahead of time... and also = adds to the fun, I find. Regards, Hrolf the overly-named ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query/Vara Good to hear from you Vara.. I like your story.. but 'sad' = naaah.I;like it.. and your story has helped me figure out how to = acknowledge my partnership with 'Bjorn (Not her real name.. much as = she might wish it otherwise) At least as far as the SCA goes = anyway...... so i think i shall just start signing myself Catriona Bjronswffe at = events from now on.. giggle=20 kathy=20 Hrolf Douglasson wrote: I'm the 'sad' one in the group..picked up a Viking name at = birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears oaths and punished = oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson (Hrolf son of = Douglas, and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe to my name. = More tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are Hrolfsson = and Hrolfsdottir. As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a = recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field full. Anyone know how Alan's helm is? vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Swords/Gudrun/query Thanks, aly I will Vara.. care to jump in here now and help me out with this name = business.. Please pretty please kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as well as her Regia = name ande she can explain the whole system. Aly=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C3AA38.0F5AB840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Kathy, Hrolf here. Just to throw a = slight=20 spanner into the works...
 
Surviving evidence seems to suggest = that people=20 back then didn't bother much trying to pronounce unfamiliar names; sagas = and=20 annals are full of references to people that only become clear when = cross-=20 referenced to other sources, and the actual "ethnic" version of the name = appears. Bjorn is unlikely to have been overly familiar with Catriona as = a name,=20 and may well have bastardised it into something like Katja, kat, etc. It = never=20 hurts to be prepared for these events ahead of time... and also adds to = the fun,=20 I find.
 
Regards,
 
Hrolf the overly-named
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Thursday, November 13, = 2003 10:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re:=20 Swords/Gudrun/query/Vara

Good to hear from you Vara..  I like your story.. but=20 'sad'    naaah.I;like it..  and your story = has =20 helped me figure out how to acknowledge my partnership with = 'Bjorn  =20 (Not her real name.. much as she might wish it otherwise) At least as = far as=20 the SCA goes anyway......
so i think i shall just start signing myself  Catriona  = Bjronswffe at events from now on..  giggle
 
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson = <Hrolf@btinternet.com>=20 wrote:
I'm the 'sad' one in the = group..picked up a=20 Viking name at birth..Elvara (taken from the Goddess(Var) who hears = oaths=20 and punished oath breakers), the went and married Hrolf Douglasson = (Hrolf=20 son of Douglas, and yes that's his real name) so added Hrolfswiffe = to my=20 name. More tittle than name. Literally wife of Hrolf. The kids are = Hrolfsson=20 and Hrolfsdottir.
As for the ladle..I have been known = to take a=20 swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 or a field=20 full.
Anyone know how Alan's helm = is?
vara
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Kathy
Sent: Thursday, November = 13, 2003=20 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: = Swords/Gudrun/query

Thanks, aly   I will
 
 Vara..  care to jump in here now and help me out = with this=20 name business.. Please pretty please
kathy

Cuthwyn@aol.com = wrote:
Do ask Vara though - it's her real name as = well as=20 her Regia name ande she can explain the whole = system.

Aly=20

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C3AA38.0F5AB840-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:53:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Ian Uzzell) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:53:19 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <00f301c3aa38$eeb16700$0100a8c0@mshome.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C3AA38.EE8FD540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a recalcitrant = warrior or two:))..or 3 >or a field full. > >vara I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full = armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of = Treachery!! And that was in my late 50's. She can be that = terrifying!!! :-o Ian Uzzell=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C3AA38.EE8FD540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>As for the ladle..I have been known = to take a=20 swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 >or a field=20 full.
>
>vara
 
I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the = battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf = in a=20 Circle of Treachery!!  And that was in my late 50's.  She can = be that=20 terrifying!!! :-o
 
Ian Uzzell 

------=_NextPart_000_00F0_01C3AA38.EE8FD540-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 22:57:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:57:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] vara/Hroff In-Reply-To: <009801c3aa38$11cf61c0$db6f7ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031113225733.57327.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-711958640-1068764253=:56788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LOL oh this is way to much fun.. actually my persona, Catriona, is from the Western Isles off the coast of scotland.. and she met Bjorn there.. the rest is history as they say.. in fact.. Bren.. my partner, really is of Norse heritage, although she has never been to the home country.. but when she was choosing an SCA persona . she chose the name Bjorn Kjeldson without any hesitation.. Hrolf Douglasson wrote:Hi Kathy, Hrolf here. Just to throw a slight spanner into the works... Surviving evidence seems to suggest that people back then didn't bother much trying to pronounce unfamiliar names; sagas and annals are full of references to people that only become clear when cross- referenced to other sources, and the actual "ethnic" version of the name appears. Bjorn is unlikely to have been overly familiar with Catriona as a name, and may well have bastardised it into something like Katja, kat, etc. It never hurts to be prepared for these events ahead of time... and also adds to the fun, I find. Regards, Hrolf the overly-named --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-711958640-1068764253=:56788 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
LOL  oh this is way to much fun..  actually my persona, Catriona, is from the Western Isles off the coast of scotland.. and she met Bjorn there..  the  rest is  history as they say..  in fact.. Bren.. my partner, really is of Norse heritage, although she has never been to the home country.. but when she was choosing an SCA persona  . she chose the name Bjorn Kjeldson without any hesitation.. 

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi Kathy, Hrolf here. Just to throw a slight spanner into the works...
 
Surviving evidence seems to suggest that people back then didn't bother much trying to pronounce unfamiliar names; sagas and annals are full of references to people that only become clear when cross- referenced to other sources, and the actual "ethnic" version of the name appears. Bjorn is unlikely to have been overly familiar with Catriona as a name, and may well have bastardised it into something like Katja, kat, etc. It never hurts to be prepared for these events ahead of time... and also adds to the fun, I find.
 
Regards,
 
Hrolf the overly-named
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-711958640-1068764253=:56788-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 23:01:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:01:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/queryHroff In-Reply-To: <00f301c3aa38$eeb16700$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: <20031113230105.84435.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1594378673-1068764465=:84183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LOL so it would seem that not just the men of Regia can put a full-grown man in flight,armed only with a ladle.. Wish i had pictures.. especially of a warrior in his late 50's in full flight, leapng barriers Kathy Ian Uzzell wrote: >As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 >or a field full. > >vara I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!! And that was in my late 50's. She can be that terrifying!!! :-o Ian Uzzell --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1594378673-1068764465=:84183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
LOL  so it would seem that not just the  men of Regia can put a full-grown man in flight,armed only with a ladle.. Wish i had pictures.. especially of a warrior in his late 50's in full flight, leapng barriers
Kathy

Ian Uzzell <snorri@vikingasaga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>As for the ladle..I have been known to take a swing at a recalcitrant warrior or two:))..or 3 >or a field full.
>
>vara
 
I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!!  And that was in my late 50's.  She can be that terrifying!!! :-o
 
Ian Uzzell 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1594378673-1068764465=:84183-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 23:22:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:22:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Norse women's fashions In-Reply-To: <00f301c3aa38$eeb16700$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: <20031113232205.69203.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1874572941-1068765725=:68970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I dont know whether i should use the word Viking in referring to the women on this list or not.. butif i amin error..... sue me! seriously though I would really like to know how women of the time period you cover dressed I know about the apron dress with its brooches and jewelery pinned between the brooches.. Or at least that is how i have seen them worn.. How accurate is that? As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would wear, but since my partner is Norse, i thought i should at least make an attempt to wear the dress of his culture now and then. Any advice would be greatly appreciated Kathy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1874572941-1068765725=:68970 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

I dont know whether i should use the word Viking in referring to the women on this list or not.. butif i amin error..... sue me!  seriously though I would really like to know how women of the time period you cover  dressed I know about the apron dress with its brooches and  jewelery  pinned between the brooches.. Or at least that is how i have seen  them worn..  How accurate is that?

As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would wear, but since my partner is Norse, i thought i should at least make an attempt to wear the dress of his culture  now and then. 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

Kathy

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1874572941-1068765725=:68970-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 23:33:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:33:10 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Norse women's fashions References: <20031113232205.69203.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002d01c3aa3e$813a9420$c6c87ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C3AA3E.8004D340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am half way through making a new dress based on the Hedaby fragment. = It is beautiful. Flattering to the fuller figure, with little wastage = from the cutting out a swished nearly as well as a norman dress. I normally wear the one you see on the website. vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:22 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Norse women's fashions I dont know whether i should use the word Viking in referring to the = women on this list or not.. butif i amin error..... sue me! seriously = though I would really like to know how women of the time period you = cover dressed I know about the apron dress with its brooches and = jewelery pinned between the brooches.. Or at least that is how i have = seen them worn.. How accurate is that? As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would wear, but = since my partner is Norse, i thought i should at least make an attempt = to wear the dress of his culture now and then. =20 Any advice would be greatly appreciated=20 Kathy=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C3AA3E.8004D340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am half way through making a new = dress based on=20 the Hedaby fragment. It is beautiful. Flattering to the fuller figure, = with=20 little wastage from the cutting out a swished nearly as well as a norman = dress.
I normally wear the one you see on the=20 website.
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Subject: [Regia-NA] Norse = women's=20 fashions

I dont know whether i should use the word Viking in referring to = the=20 women on this list or not.. butif i amin error..... sue me!  = seriously=20 though I would really like to know how women of the time period you=20 cover  dressed I know about the apron dress with its brooches = and =20 jewelery  pinned between the brooches.. Or at least that is how = i have=20 seen  them worn..  How accurate is that?

As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would wear, = but since=20 my partner is Norse, i thought i should at least make an attempt to = wear the=20 dress of his culture  now and then. 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated

 

Kathy

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C3AA3E.8004D340-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 23:41:30 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:41:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Norse women's fashions In-Reply-To: <002d01c3aa3e$813a9420$c6c87ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031113234130.3139.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-263987047-1068766890=:326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sounds wonderful, vara.. but which one is you?? kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: I am half way through making a new dress based on the Hedaby fragment. It is beautiful. Flattering to the fuller figure, with little wastage from the cutting out a swished nearly as well as a norman dress. I normally wear the one you see on the website. vara --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-263987047-1068766890=:326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
sounds wonderful, vara.. but which  one is you??
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
I am half way through making a new dress based on the Hedaby fragment. It is beautiful. Flattering to the fuller figure, with little wastage from the cutting out a swished nearly as well as a norman dress.
I normally wear the one you see on the website.
vara
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-263987047-1068766890=:326-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 13 23:57:15 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:57:15 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <116.2b3958d6.2ce5745b@aol.com> --part1_116.2b3958d6.2ce5745b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 13/11/2003 22:54:20 GMT Standard Time, snorri@vikingasaga.freeserve.co.uk writes: > > I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full > armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!! > And that was in my late 50's. She can be that terrifying!!! :-o > And then of course one must mention the outstanding feats of agility and speed performed by some of our bravest when threatened with pursuit by the Sisters of Medwaeg...... PS This may also explain why there are few women in the photos at Wychurst - the man with the camera daren't get near enough! Aly --part1_116.2b3958d6.2ce5745b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 13/11/2003 22:54:20 GMT Standard Ti= me, snorri@vikingasaga.freeserve.co.uk writes:



I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full arm= our to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!!&n= bsp; And that was in my late 50's.  She can be that terrifying!!! :-o


And then of course one must mention the outstanding feats of agility and spe= ed performed by some of our bravest when threatened with pursuit by the Sist= ers of Medwaeg......

PS This may also explain why there are few women in the photos at Wychurst -= the man with the camera daren't get near enough!

Aly --part1_116.2b3958d6.2ce5745b_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 00:04:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:04:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/query In-Reply-To: <116.2b3958d6.2ce5745b@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031114000440.86336.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1784442233-1068768280=:84323 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well i must say i am impressed by the tales of the feats of agility as performed by stalwart warriors when facing the dreaded Sisters of Medwaeg.. Umm who are they anyway.. Kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 13/11/2003 22:54:20 GMT Standard Time, snorri@vikingasaga.freeserve.co.uk writes: I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!! And that was in my late 50's. She can be that terrifying!!! :-o And then of course one must mention the outstanding feats of agility and speed performed by some of our bravest when threatened with pursuit by the Sisters of Medwaeg...... PS This may also explain why there are few women in the photos at Wychurst - the man with the camera daren't get near enough! Aly --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1784442233-1068768280=:84323 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well i must say i am impressed by the tales of the feats of agility  as performed by stalwart warriors when facing the dreaded  Sisters of Medwaeg..
 
Umm who are they anyway..
 
Kathy

Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 13/11/2003 22:54:20 GMT Standard Time, snorri@vikingasaga.freeserve.co.uk writes:



I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!!  And that was in my late 50's.  She can be that terrifying!!! :-o


And then of course one must mention the outstanding feats of agility and speed performed by some of our bravest when threatened with pursuit by the Sisters of Medwaeg......

PS This may also explain why there are few women in the photos at Wychurst - the man with the camera daren't get near enough!

Aly

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1784442233-1068768280=:84323-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 00:16:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:16:12 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <128.34f475db.2ce578cc@aol.com> --part1_128.34f475db.2ce578cc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 14/11/2003 00:05:57 GMT Standard Time, kth62@yahoo.com writes: > by stalwart warriors when facing the dreaded Sisters of Medwaeg.. > > Umm who are they anyway.. > > I wondered if you'd ask. We are/portray occasionally C10th Benedictine nuns. Mostly we are very serious and sensible and lead processions singing in Latin, but just now and then we get fed-up with nun jokes from our Viking friends and decide to make an example of one of them. Once we surrrounded one and force-baptised him with several gallons of water. Another time I shot him with what appeared to be a borrowed longbow (yep - the same one - he is a glutton for punishment). Mostly they run ... very fast! Oh and there was also the German SS officer at a multi-period show who pulled the "Are you a paratrooper in disguise - I'll check for hairy legs" gag once too often. His own society took a long time to forget his fate. A year later they asked me if I was the nun who "decked him". Not true - I only pushed him away. We like being nuns. And they're never quite sure when either.... Regards Aly (aka Sister Mildred) --part1_128.34f475db.2ce578cc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 14/11/2003 00:05:57 GMT Standard Ti= me, kth62@yahoo.com writes:


by stalwart warriors when facin= g the dreaded  Sisters of Medwaeg..

Umm who are they anyway..



I wondered if you'd ask.  We are/portray occasionally C10th Benedictine= nuns.  Mostly we are very serious and sensible and lead processions si= nging in Latin, but just now and then we get fed-up with nun jokes from our=20= Viking friends and decide to make an example of one of them.  Once we s= urrrounded one and force-baptised him with several gallons of water.  A= nother time I shot him with what appeared to be a borrowed longbow (yep - th= e same one - he is a glutton for punishment).  Mostly they run ... very= fast!

Oh and there was also the German SS officer at a multi-period show who pulle= d the "Are you a paratrooper in disguise - I'll check for hairy legs" gag on= ce too often.  His own society took a long time to forget his fate.&nbs= p; A year later they asked me if I was the nun who "decked him".  Not t= rue - I only pushed him away.

We like being nuns.  And they're never quite sure when either....

Regards

Aly (aka Sister Mildred) --part1_128.34f475db.2ce578cc_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 00:16:41 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:16:41 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: vara/Hroff In-Reply-To: <20031113225733.57327.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031113225733.57327.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031114001641.14418.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Kathy writes: "Bren.. my partner, really is of Norse heritage, although she has never been to the home country.. but when she was choosing an SCA persona . she chose the name Bjorn Kjeldson without any hesitation.." That means that you have two bugs to iron out in that name, then. In addition to the one we already discussed (the -sen/-son issue), the name "Bjorn" (usually written w/an umlaut over the o) is a male name. Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 00:30:34 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:30:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: vara/Hroff In-Reply-To: <20031114001641.14418.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Message-ID: <20031114003034.97418.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-449839704-1068769834=:95007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yes i know it is a male name.. and Bren chose if for the very good reason that she is the other half of a same -sex couple.. and preferred to have a male persona.. Cory Nielsen wrote:Kathy writes: "Bren.. my partner, really is of Norse heritage, although she has never been to the home country.. but when she was choosing an SCA persona . she chose the name Bjorn Kjeldson without any hesitation.." That means that you have two bugs to iron out in that name, then. In addition to the one we already discussed (the -sen/-son issue), the name "Bjorn" (usually written w/an umlaut over the o) is a male name. Cory _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-449839704-1068769834=:95007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
yes i know it is a male name..  and Bren chose if for the very good reason that she is the other half of a same -sex couple.. and preferred to have a male persona..

Cory Nielsen <cnielsen@connect2.com> wrote:
Kathy writes:

"Bren.. my partner, really is of Norse heritage, although she has never been
to the home country.. but when she was choosing an SCA persona . she chose
the name Bjorn Kjeldson without any hesitation.."

That means that you have two bugs to iron out in that name, then. In
addition to the one we already discussed (the -sen/-son issue), the name
"Bjorn" (usually written w/an umlaut over the o) is a male name.

Cory
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-449839704-1068769834=:95007-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 00:33:43 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:33:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/query/Aly In-Reply-To: <128.34f475db.2ce578cc@aol.com> Message-ID: <20031114003343.9946.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2056373611-1068770023=:8612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LOL Well , Sister Mildred.. i thank you for that charming tale.. I promise not to make any nun jokes should our paths every cross Kathy Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 14/11/2003 00:05:57 GMT Standard Time, kth62@yahoo.com writes: by stalwart warriors when facing the dreaded Sisters of Medwaeg.. Umm who are they anyway.. I wondered if you'd ask. We are/portray occasionally C10th Benedictine nuns. Mostly we are very serious and sensible and lead processions singing in Latin, but just now and then we get fed-up with nun jokes from our Viking friends and decide to make an example of one of them. Once we surrrounded one and force-baptised him with several gallons of water. Another time I shot him with what appeared to be a borrowed longbow (yep - the same one - he is a glutton for punishment). Mostly they run ... very fast! Oh and there was also the German SS officer at a multi-period show who pulled the "Are you a paratrooper in disguise - I'll check for hairy legs" gag once too often. His own society took a long time to forget his fate. A year later they asked me if I was the nun who "decked him". Not true - I only pushed him away. We like being nuns. And they're never quite sure when either.... Regards Aly (aka Sister Mildred) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2056373611-1068770023=:8612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
LOL  Well , Sister Mildred..  i thank you for that  charming tale..   I promise not to make any nun jokes should our paths every cross
 
Kathy

Cuthwyn@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 14/11/2003 00:05:57 GMT Standard Time, kth62@yahoo.com writes:


by stalwart warriors when facing the dreaded  Sisters of Medwaeg..

Umm who are they anyway..



I wondered if you'd ask.  We are/portray occasionally C10th Benedictine nuns.  Mostly we are very serious and sensible and lead processions singing in Latin, but just now and then we get fed-up with nun jokes from our Viking friends and decide to make an example of one of them.  Once we surrrounded one and force-baptised him with several gallons of water.  Another time I shot him with what appeared to be a borrowed longbow (yep - the same one - he is a glutton for punishment).  Mostly they run ... very fast!

Oh and there was also the German SS officer at a multi-period show who pulled the "Are you a paratrooper in disguise - I'll check for hairy legs" gag once too often.  His own society took a long time to forget his fate.  A year later they asked me if I was the nun who "decked him".  Not true - I only pushed him away.

We like being nuns.  And they're never quite sure when either....

Regards

Aly (aka Sister Mildred)

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2056373611-1068770023=:8612-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 00:50:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:50:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives Message-ID: <4927359.1068771038309.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> ------=_Part_10540_5548443.1068771038307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I am pretty lucky.....and my ex has had a few choice words about my parentage! :o) Bill Message date : Nov 13 2003, 07:11 PM >From : Phil Scott To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives I always liked John Gillingham's comment: It's no so much William the Bastard as, William the lucky bastard! Phil style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> ----- Original Message ----- style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: Cuthwyn@aol.com To: href="mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky Bastard"? -- Tracie Bearing in mind the length of his indoctrination on our side of the pond, might I suggest "My Lord Lucky Bastard" - for your own protection, you understand..... Aly "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly" (lost the author's name with my last computer) ------=_Part_10540_5548443.1068771038307 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Well, I am pretty lucky.....and my ex has had a few choice words about my parentage!  :o)

 

Bill



Message date : Nov 13 2003, 07:11 PM
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Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] Battlefield Detectives







I always liked John Gillingham's comment: It's no
so much William the Bastard as, William the lucky bastard!

 

Phil

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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">

Does this mean we can address him as "The Lucky
Bastard"?

-- Tracie

Bearing in mind the length of his
indoctrination on our side of the pond, might I suggest "My Lord Lucky
Bastard" - for your own protection, you
understand.....

Aly

"Angels can fly because they take themselves
lightly"  (lost the author's name with my last computer)

------=_Part_10540_5548443.1068771038307-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 01:00:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:00:16 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:Swords/Gudrun/query Message-ID: <7658983.1068771616377.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> ------=_Part_10565_1515765.1068771616375 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But Aly, how can one be afraid of sisters who wear purple knickers? :o) Bill I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!! And that was in my late 50's. She can be that terrifying!!! :-o And then of course one must mention the outstanding feats of agility and speed performed by some of our bravest when threatened with pursuit by the Sisters of Medwaeg...... PS This may also explain why there are few women in the photos at Wychurst - the man with the camera daren't get near enough! Aly ------=_Part_10565_1515765.1068771616375 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

But Aly, how can one be afraid of sisters who wear purple knickers?  :o)

Bill
I have been witnessed leaping the barrier around the battlefield in full armour to get away from Var after I "killed" Hrolf in a Circle of Treachery!!  And that was in my late 50's.  She can be that terrifying!!! :-o





And then of course one must mention the outstanding feats of agility and speed performed by some of our bravest when threatened with pursuit by the Sisters of Medwaeg......



PS This may also explain why there are few women in the photos at Wychurst - the man with the camera daren't get near enough!



Aly
------=_Part_10565_1515765.1068771616375-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 01:12:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 01:12:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website In-Reply-To: <00b501c3aa36$5bee36c0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031114011239.84865.qmail@web25009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-952516540-1068772359=:84368 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have periodic problems accessing the site.Sometimes it work & sometimes,like now it doesn'tRegards, Mik Martin Field wrote: Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then I typed in the URL www.mathomhouse.com/regia to no avail. Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are experiencing the same difficulty. Thanks Martin Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-952516540-1068772359=:84368 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I have periodic problems accessing the site.Sometimes it work & sometimes,like now it doesn'tRegards,
Mik

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then I typed in the URL
to no avail.
Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are experiencing the same difficulty.
Thanks
Martin
 


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-952516540-1068772359=:84368-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 02:16:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:16:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Numbers coming on the 22nd/23rd Message-ID: <19804843.1068776165643.JavaMail.www@wwinf3003> ------=_Part_17641_26556036.1068776165640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've had several people respond about coming for the gathering. But I am also a member on several other lists and I've seen postings about persons coming from whom I don't think I have had responses about attending. So far I have a count of about 10: Scott Gelpi, Russ Holmes and wife, Tracie Brown and friend, Chris and Traci Payne and several friends, and David Edelen and a friend or two. If you know of anyone who is planning on attending, please have them contact me directly and soonest at vinlander@cableone.net (alternatively william.tate@keesler.af.mil). A headcount is useful in a great many ways. Thanks, Bill ------=_Part_17641_26556036.1068776165640 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all,
 
I've had several people respond about coming for the gathering.  But I am also a member on several other lists and I've seen postings about persons coming from whom I don't think I have had responses about attending.  So far I have a count of about 10: Scott Gelpi, Russ Holmes and wife, Tracie Brown and friend, Chris and Traci Payne and several friends, and David Edelen and a friend or two.  If you know of anyone who is planning on attending, please have them contact me directly and soonest at vinlander@cableone.net (alternatively william.tate@keesler.af.mil).  A headcount is useful in a great many ways.
 
Thanks,
Bill
------=_Part_17641_26556036.1068776165640-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 02:28:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:28:36 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website References: <20031114011239.84865.qmail@web25009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <013101c3aa57$01d7c360$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C3AA2D.18C01E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks everyone for responding - I still can't get onto the site either = on mine or my wife's comp. Sounds like some of you can and some can't get onto it. Thanks Martin ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mik lawson=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website I have periodic problems accessing the site.Sometimes it work & = sometimes,like now it doesn'tRegards, Mik Martin Field wrote: Attempts to access the N.A. Regia website were unsuccessful - first = I tried Google and then I typed in the URL=20 www.mathomhouse.com/regia to no avail. Would others on this list confirm whether or not they are = experiencing the same difficulty. Thanks Martin Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C3AA2D.18C01E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks everyone for responding - I = still can't get=20 onto the site either on mine or my wife's comp.
Sounds like some of you can = and some=20 can't get onto it.
Thanks
Martin
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Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] N.A.=20 Website

I have periodic problems accessing the site.Sometimes it work = &=20 sometimes,like now it doesn'tRegards,
Mik

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca>=20 wrote:
Attempts to access the N.A. Regia=20 website were unsuccessful - first I tried Google and then = I typed=20 in the URL
www.mathomhouse.com/regia
to no avail.
Would others on this list confirm = whether or=20 not they are experiencing the same difficulty.
Thanks
Martin
 


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Want to chat instantly with your online=20 friends? Get=20 the FREE Yahoo! Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C3AA2D.18C01E80-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 03:50:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:50:28 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Bill's Meeting Message-ID: <01c901c3aa62$73b710c0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C6_01C3AA38.88E1DD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To the list - I thought Bill could use a little support for his upcoming weekend = meeting for those still considering whether to attend. All I can say is that never having had the pleasure of meeting him I can = however attest to the moving letter he made to the membership upon = notice of his transfer from the UK back to the United States. As he mentioned, in the four and one half years since he was posted to = the UK and knowing little of Regia's period, he has, with such = enthusiasm, learned so much and now I would hazard a guess that he wants = to pass on all the knowledge, skills and experiences he has had the = fortune to be a part of with Regia UK.=20 Please support Bill by dropping by if you can - either for the one day = or both. I'm sure it will be time well spent and I only wish I could have made = it. All the best Martin ------=_NextPart_000_01C6_01C3AA38.88E1DD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To the list -
I thought Bill could use a little = support for his=20 upcoming weekend meeting for those still considering whether to=20 attend.
All I can say is that never having had = the pleasure=20 of meeting him I can however attest to the moving letter he made to the=20 membership upon notice of his transfer from the UK back to the United=20 States.
As he mentioned, in the four and one = half=20 years since he was posted to the UK and knowing little=20 of Regia's period, he has, with such enthusiasm, learned so much = and now I=20 would hazard a guess that he wants to pass on all the knowledge, skills = and=20 experiences he has had the fortune to be a part of with Regia=20 UK. 
Please support Bill by dropping by if = you can -=20 either for the one day or both.
I'm sure it will be time well = spent and I only=20 wish I could have made it.
All the best
Martin 
------=_NextPart_000_01C6_01C3AA38.88E1DD60-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 06:02:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:02:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] N.A. Website In-Reply-To: <013101c3aa57$01d7c360$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031114060204.56835.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> I just clicked on the link and got there immediately. I'll have to try again tomorrow and see if it is a periodic thing. Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 08:07:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 00:07:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Anglo Saxon computer dictionary In-Reply-To: <20031113172555.16860.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031114080704.76340.qmail@web11509.mail.yahoo.com> Fun stuff! Have you seen the computer dictionary in Anglo-Saxon? http://www.u.arizona.edu/~ctb/wordhord.html For example: bit = lytelbita (m) bug = wyrm (n) debug = wyrmbeslean (v) ethernet = lytfwundornett (n) dot = prica (m) dot-matrix printer = pinnpricelisc bewritere (m) dust cover = dusthelm (m) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 14:24:34 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Russ Holmes) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:24:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Anglo Saxon computer dictionary In-Reply-To: <20031114080704.76340.qmail@web11509.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031114142434.86311.qmail@web10410.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Jan!!!! I snarfed my coffee on this one..... Russ Holmes Techno-geek --- Jan Ward wrote: > Fun stuff! Have you seen the computer dictionary in > Anglo-Saxon? > > > http://www.u.arizona.edu/~ctb/wordhord.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 15:37:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hazel Uzzell) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:37:54 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Textile glossary References: <20031114142434.86311.qmail@web10410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <028801c3aac5$46203160$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Sorry to come late to this. I've been away. Scanned through the first page... A couple of fairly important spelling mistakes. 'Batlk' should be 'Batik' 'Damak' should be 'Damask' Didn't get any further. Cheers, Hazel From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 16:28:09 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:28:09 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Norse Women's Fashions Message-ID: Kathy wrote: >As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would >wear, but since my partner is Norse, i thought i should at >least make an attempt to wear the dress of his culture now >and then. When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. Weird tale involving this concept: My boss was on a panel that turned down a request for a grant for a Celtic festival on the grounds that it was not sufficiently ethnically diverse. (He didn't agree, but was out-voted.) Just try telling the Scots, Irish, Manx, Gallicians, Welsh, Cornish and Bretons involved that they aren't ethnically diverse! -- Tracie From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 16:38:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:38:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Norse Women's Fashions/Tracie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114163854.37232.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-694729453-1068827934=:36289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My persona lives on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland.. but thanks for the reminder though.. smile. kathy Tracie Brown wrote: Kathy wrote: >As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would >wear, but since my partner is Norse, i thought i should at >least make an attempt to wear the dress of his culture now >and then. When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. Weird tale involving this concept: My boss was on a panel that turned down a request for a grant for a Celtic festival on the grounds that it was not sufficiently ethnically diverse. (He didn't agree, but was out-voted.) Just try telling the Scots, Irish, Manx, Gallicians, Welsh, Cornish and Bretons involved that they aren't ethnically diverse! -- Tracie _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-694729453-1068827934=:36289 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
My persona lives on one of the Islands off the west coast of Scotland..  but thanks for the reminder though.. smile.
kathy

Tracie Brown <trbrown@uga.edu> wrote:
Kathy wrote:
>As a Celt i have a working idea as to what a woman would
>wear, but since my partner is Norse, i thought i should at
>least make an attempt to wear the dress of his culture now
>and then.

When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish?
There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea
of one Celtic people is of very recent origin.
Weird tale involving this concept: My boss was on a panel
that turned down a request for a grant for a Celtic festival
on the grounds that it was not sufficiently ethnically
diverse. (He didn't agree, but was out-voted.) Just try
telling the Scots, Irish, Manx, Gallicians, Welsh, Cornish
and Bretons involved that they aren't ethnically diverse!

-- Tracie
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-694729453-1068827934=:36289-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 16:47:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 16:47:50 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Norse Women's Fashions Message-ID: > When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? =20 > There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea=20 > of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. =20 Well said Tracie, Western Isles makes it a little easier, since the population was = principally derived from Dalriadic Scots [i.e. Irish] and, from the late 8th = century onwards, a growing proportion of Norse. I'd be interested to know what Kathy thinks a 'Celt' would be wearing. Gu=F0rum From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 17:06:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Norse Women's Fashions/Gudrun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114170608.80473.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1353079860-1068829568=:79372 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well it is my understanding that most Celts..of the 11th and 12th century, regardless of the regions they lived in, wore the ubiquitous T-tunic.. or a variiation thereof.. an undergown or shirt, with a tunic for the men and an overdress for the women. I have seen reference to a garment called a 'leine' that was essentially an ankle length robe worn by both men and women. Kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: > When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? > There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea > of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. Well said Tracie, Western Isles makes it a little easier, since the population was principally derived from Dalriadic Scots [i.e. Irish] and, from the late 8th century onwards, a growing proportion of Norse. I'd be interested to know what Kathy thinks a 'Celt' would be wearing. Guðrum _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1353079860-1068829568=:79372 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well it is my understanding that  most Celts..of the 11th and 12th century, regardless of the regions they lived in,  wore the ubiquitous T-tunic..  or a variiation thereof..  an undergown or shirt, with a tunic for the men and an overdress for the women. I have seen reference to a garment called a 'leine'  that was essentially an ankle length robe worn by both men and women.
 
Kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:

> When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish?
> There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea
> of one Celtic people is of very recent origin.


Well said Tracie,

Western Isles makes it a little easier, since the population was principally
derived from Dalriadic Scots [i.e. Irish] and, from the late 8th century
onwards, a growing proportion of Norse.

I'd be interested to know what Kathy thinks a 'Celt' would be wearing.

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1353079860-1068829568=:79372-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 19:37:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:37:08 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions Message-ID: They are related linguistically, and this is very ancient indeed. On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ > When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? >There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea >of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. >-- Tracie _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 20:02:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:02:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Oswald In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114200214.36817.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2015264255-1068840134=:36386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well well well, Oregon, California and Nevada are getting a wee bit closer to home.. for those of us lving up in BC.. great websites too, Oswald kathy Douglas Sunlin wrote: They are related linguistically, and this is very ancient indeed. On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ > When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? >There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea >of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. >-- Tracie _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2015264255-1068840134=:36386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well well well,  Oregon, California and Nevada are getting a wee bit closer to home.. for those of us lving up in BC..   great  websites too, Oswald
 
kathy
Douglas Sunlin <dsunlin@hotmail.com> wrote:
They are related linguistically, and this is very ancient indeed.

On manræden,
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age
http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/

> When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish?
>There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea
>of one Celtic people is of very recent origin.

>-- Tracie

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2015264255-1068840134=:36386-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 20:22:35 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:22:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114202235.47107.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1625065280-1068841355=:46244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii okay hands up.. you have 30 seconds to tell me how many of you mighty warriors have a neck opening in your tunics? or is the neck opening just an oval.. clock is running grin kathy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1625065280-1068841355=:46244 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

okay hands up.. you have 30 seconds to tell me how many of you mighty warriors have a neck opening in your tunics?  or is the neck opening  just an oval..  clock is running   grin

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1625065280-1068841355=:46244-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 20:25:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:25:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114202533.78122.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1943025713-1068841533=:77755 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the Welsh, the Manx and the Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of Gaelic... or are you speaking of the early days of the Celt tribes.. Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called ..oh dang.. senior moment.. word means Salt... Kathy Douglas Sunlin wrote: They are related linguistically, and this is very ancient indeed. On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ > When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? >There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea >of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. >-- Tracie _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1943025713-1068841533=:77755 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the Welsh, the Manx and the  Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of Gaelic...  or are you speaking of  the early days of the Celt tribes..
Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called ..oh  dang.. senior moment..  word means Salt...
Kathy

Douglas Sunlin <dsunlin@hotmail.com> wrote:
They are related linguistically, and this is very ancient indeed.

On manræden,
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http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/

> When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish?
>There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea
>of one Celtic people is of very recent origin.

>-- Tracie

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Hand=20 up
 
All my=20 tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned = together when=20 i am dressing up).  That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned = brit i=20 mange it with even our summer sun).
 
Hugz
N.
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Subject:=20 [Regia-NA] pop quiz

okay hands up.. you have 30 seconds to tell me how many of you = mighty=20 warriors have a neck opening in your tunics?  or is the neck=20 opening  just an oval..  clock is running   = grin

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3AAF0.C4992670-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 20:55:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:55:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114205516.91100.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-752102686-1068843316=:90165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ah thanks to the winner.. a pitcher of mead.. ( oh you wish!) That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic.. wish me luck Hugz to you too kathy nathan wrote: Hand up All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up). That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun). Hugz N. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-752102686-1068843316=:90165 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Ah thanks  to the winner.. a pitcher of mead..  ( oh you wish!) 
That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish  front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic..  wish me luck
Hugz to you too
 
kathy

nathan <fenrirr@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
Hand up
 
All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up).  That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun).
 
Hugz
N.
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-752102686-1068843316=:90165-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 21:48:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:48:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan In-Reply-To: <20031114205516.91100.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031114214814.78711.qmail@web25006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1404667002-1068846494=:78367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I generally make my tunic to fit my neck & then put a slit in the front to allow my head to go through & close it with a small enameled broach to make the fit tight around my neck. Regards, Mik {another fair skinned brit!} Kathy wrote: Ah thanks to the winner.. a pitcher of mead.. ( oh you wish!) That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic.. wish me luck Hugz to you too kathy nathan wrote: Hand up All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up). That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun). Hugz N. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1404667002-1068846494=:78367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I generally make my tunic to fit my neck & then put a slit in the front to allow my head to go through & close it with a small enameled broach to make the fit tight around my neck.
Regards,
Mik {another fair skinned brit!}

Kathy <kth62@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ah thanks  to the winner.. a pitcher of mead..  ( oh you wish!) 
That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish  front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic..  wish me luck
Hugz to you too
 
kathy

nathan <fenrirr@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
Hand up
 
All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up).  That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun).
 
Hugz
N.
 

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1404667002-1068846494=:78367-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 21:56:42 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:56:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan In-Reply-To: <20031114214814.78711.qmail@web25006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031114215642.24210.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-555181882-1068847002=:22289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Mik thats what i am going to do here with this pattern.. cheers Kathy sewing for a fair-skinned Norse mik lawson wrote: I generally make my tunic to fit my neck & then put a slit in the front to allow my head to go through & close it with a small enameled broach to make the fit tight around my neck. Regards, Mik {another fair skinned brit!} --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-555181882-1068847002=:22289 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks  Mik   thats what i am going to do here with this pattern..
cheers
Kathy
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mik lawson <miklawson@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I generally make my tunic to fit my neck & then put a slit in the front to allow my head to go through & close it with a small enameled broach to make the fit tight around my neck.
Regards,
Mik {another fair skinned brit!}

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-555181882-1068847002=:22289-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 22:00:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (nathan) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:00:29 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan In-Reply-To: <20031114205516.91100.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3AAFA.B7A9A480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erm... Not so sure about the lacing thou. As i said i pin them (little annular broach or disk broch normally) N. -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: 14 November 2003 20:55 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan Ah thanks to the winner.. a pitcher of mead.. ( oh you wish!) That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic.. wish me luck Hugz to you too kathy nathan wrote: Hand up All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up). That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun). Hugz N. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3AAFA.B7A9A480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Erm...
 
Not so=20 sure about the lacing thou.
 
As i=20 said i pin them (little annular broach or disk broch=20 normally)
 
N.
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Ah thanks  to the winner.. a pitcher of mead..  ( oh = you=20 wish!) 
That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one = pattern,=20 and it shows a longish  front opening that is laced at the top = for the=20 outer tunic..  wish me luck
Hugz to you too
 
kathy

nathan <fenrirr@lycos.co.uk>=20 wrote:
Hand up
 
All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and = & slit=20 (pinned together when i am dressing up).  That way i avoid = sunburn=20 (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer=20 sun).
 
Hugz
N.
 

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3AAFA.B7A9A480-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 22:01:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CRMayhew) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:01:29 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions References: <20031114202533.78122.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C3AAD0.F2766230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I remember correctly, there are 2 distinct branches of Celtic = languages: one (Goidelic?) includes the Irish, Manx and Scots gaelic dialects, and another (Brythonic?) which includes Bretagne (Brittany), Cornish = (Cornwall) and Welsh (Wales). It's easy to remember if you think geographically along two lines. Ireland to the Isle of Man to Scotland is one line. Brittany north through Cornwall to Wales is the other. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related = linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the Welsh, = the Manx and the Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of = Gaelic... or are you speaking of the early days of the Celt tribes..=20 Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called ..oh = dang.. senior moment.. word means Salt... Kathy Douglas Sunlin wrote: They are related linguistically, and this is very ancient indeed. On manr=E6den, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ > When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish? >There was no generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea >of one Celtic people is of very recent origin. >-- Tracie _________________________________________________________________ Is your computer infected with a virus? Find out with a FREE = computer virus=20 scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now!=20 http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963 _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C3AAD0.F2766230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If I remember correctly, there are 2 = distinct=20 branches of Celtic languages:
 
one (Goidelic?) includes the = Irish, Manx and=20 Scots gaelic dialects,
and another (Brythonic?) which=20 includes Bretagne (Brittany), Cornish (Cornwall) and Welsh=20 (Wales).
 
It's easy to remember if you think = geographically=20 along two lines.
Ireland to the Isle of Man to Scotland = is one=20 line.
Brittany north through Cornwall to = Wales is=20 the other.
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
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Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related=20 linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the = Welsh, the=20 Manx and the  Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of=20 Gaelic...  or are you speaking of  the early days of the = Celt=20 tribes..
Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called = ..oh =20 dang.. senior moment..  word means Salt...
Kathy

Douglas Sunlin = <dsunlin@hotmail.com>=20 wrote:
They=20 are related linguistically, and this is very ancient = indeed.

On=20 manr=E6den,
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>=20 When you say "Celt" what do you mean? Irish? Scottish?
>There = was no=20 generic "celtic" in the middle ages -- the idea
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Oh thanks.. for refreshing my memory  I do recall now reading just that explanation
 
kathy
CRMayhew <crmayhew@hotmail.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, there are 2 distinct branches of Celtic languages:
 
one (Goidelic?) includes the Irish, Manx and Scots gaelic dialects,
and another (Brythonic?) which includes Bretagne (Brittany), Cornish (Cornwall) and Welsh (Wales).
 
It's easy to remember if you think geographically along two lines.
Ireland to the Isle of Man to Scotland is one line.
Brittany north through Cornwall to Wales is the other.
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1640997052-1068848023=:22212-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 22:15:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:15:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031114221544.32560.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1844197922-1068848144=:28802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nod I amnot sure about the lacing either.. but the patterns is a Simplicity pattern that very conveniently has a man's tunic and undershirt, as well as trews.. aPeasant costume.. i am going to make a few modifications to suit Bjorn of course kathy nathan wrote: Erm... Not so sure about the lacing thou. As i said i pin them (little annular broach or disk broch normally) N. -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: 14 November 2003 20:55 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan Ah thanks to the winner.. a pitcher of mead.. ( oh you wish!) That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic.. wish me luck Hugz to you too kathy nathan wrote: Hand up All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up). That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun). Hugz N. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1844197922-1068848144=:28802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Nod I amnot sure about the lacing either.. but the patterns is a Simplicity pattern that very conveniently has a man's tunic and undershirt, as well as trews..   aPeasant costume..  i am going to make a few modifications to suit Bjorn of course
 
kathy

nathan <fenrirr@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
Erm...
 
Not so sure about the lacing thou.
 
As i said i pin them (little annular broach or disk broch normally)
 
N.
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Ah thanks  to the winner.. a pitcher of mead..  ( oh you wish!) 
That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, and it shows a longish  front opening that is laced at the top for the outer tunic..  wish me luck
Hugz to you too
 
kathy

nathan <fenrirr@lycos.co.uk> wrote:
Hand up
 
All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned together when i am dressing up).  That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun).
 
Hugz
N.
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1844197922-1068848144=:28802-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 22:26:26 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:26:26 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions In-Reply-To: <20031114202533.78122.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031114202533.78122.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031114222626.5589.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Kathy writes: > Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the Welsh, the Manx and the Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of Gaelic... or are you speaking of the early days of the Celt tribes.. > Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called ..oh dang.. senior moment.. word means Salt... > Kathy Irish Gaelic, Manx, and Scottish Gaelic (though not Scots) are Gaelic languages, sometimes called "Q-Celtic" or Goidelic. Welsh (along with Breton and Cornish) is not a Gaelic tongue. It is in the group sometimes called "P-Celtic" or Brythonic. The Celtic languages that used to be spoken on the Continent (like Gaulish) are another branch of Celtic altogether. The large language family that includes all of the Celtic, Germanic, Slavic, and Italic tongues (among others) is called Indo-European. According to most of what I've read, the Indo-Europeans seem to have migrated into Europe from Asia. Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 22:49:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:49:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Cory In-Reply-To: <20031114222626.5589.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Message-ID: <20031114224945.45453.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1090696960-1068850185=:41103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Cory will add this email to the others on the same subject.. (Oh woe to my mailbox!) kathy Cory Nielsen wrote: Kathy writes: > Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the Welsh, the Manx and the Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of Gaelic... or are you speaking of the early days of the Celt tribes.. > Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called ..oh dang.. senior moment.. word means Salt... > Kathy Irish Gaelic, Manx, and Scottish Gaelic (though not Scots) are Gaelic languages, sometimes called "Q-Celtic" or Goidelic. Welsh (along with Breton and Cornish) is not a Gaelic tongue. It is in the group sometimes called "P-Celtic" or Brythonic. The Celtic languages that used to be spoken on the Continent (like Gaulish) are another branch of Celtic altogether. The large language family that includes all of the Celtic, Germanic, Slavic, and Italic tongues (among others) is called Indo-European. According to most of what I've read, the Indo-Europeans seem to have migrated into Europe from Asia. Cory _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1090696960-1068850185=:41103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks Cory    will add this email to the others on the same subject.. (Oh woe to my mailbox!)
kathy

Cory Nielsen <cnielsen@connect2.com> wrote:
Kathy writes:

> Umm Oswald.. you state that they (the Celts)are related linguistically.... i was under the impression that the Irish, the Welsh, the Manx and the Scottish Celts all spoke their own version of Gaelic... or are you speaking of the early days of the Celt tribes..
> Did they not also originate in a small Austrian town, called ..oh dang.. senior moment.. word means Salt...
> Kathy

Irish Gaelic, Manx, and Scottish Gaelic (though not Scots) are Gaelic
languages, sometimes called "Q-Celtic" or Goidelic.

Welsh (along with Breton and Cornish) is not a Gaelic tongue. It is in the
group sometimes called "P-Celtic" or Brythonic.

The Celtic languages that used to be spoken on the Continent (like Gaulish)
are another branch of Celtic altogether.

The large language family that includes all of the Celtic, Germanic, Slavic,
and Italic tongues (among others) is called Indo-European. According to most
of what I've read, the Indo-Europeans seem to have migrated into Europe from
Asia.

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1090696960-1068850185=:41103-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 23:04:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:04:08 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions References: <20031114202533.78122.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <048401c3ab03$9c3d71f0$07702052@kim1> Erm - Celt devolves from the Greek "Keltoi", meaning "trouser wearer", a term of slighting contempt for the barbarians that lived to the north. The term is a modern patois for an broad group of cultures spanning both thousands of years and thousands of miles and was certainly never used by any of them to describe themselves. To do so makes as much sense as a Welsh (derived from the Englisc word for "Foreigner") person referring to themselves in that way in a historical context . Cymru - meaning "the folk" is, I believe, far more accurate. That should do it .................. Regards, Kim Siddorn From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 14 23:20:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:20:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Kim In-Reply-To: <048401c3ab03$9c3d71f0$07702052@kim1> Message-ID: <20031114232038.19275.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1561937938-1068852038=:17762 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well it would seem we are both right.. you for the origin of the name Kelt.. and me for the origin of their homeland.. smile.. I found this link.. have fun http://artzia.com/History/Celt/ Kathy J K Siddorn wrote: Erm - Celt devolves from the Greek "Keltoi", meaning "trouser wearer", a term of slighting contempt for the barbarians that lived to the north. The term is a modern patois for an broad group of cultures spanning both thousands of years and thousands of miles and was certainly never used by any of them to describe themselves. To do so makes as much sense as a Welsh (derived from the Englisc word for "Foreigner") person referring to themselves in that way in a historical context . Cymru - meaning "the folk" is, I believe, far more accurate. That should do it .................. Regards, Kim Siddorn _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1561937938-1068852038=:17762 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Well it would seem we are both right..  you for the origin of the name Kelt.. and me for the origin of their homeland.. smile.. I found this link.. have fun
 
 
Kathy

J K Siddorn <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Erm - Celt devolves from the Greek "Keltoi", meaning "trouser wearer", a
term of slighting contempt for the barbarians that lived to the north.

The term is a modern patois for an broad group of cultures spanning both
thousands of years and thousands of miles and was certainly never used by
any of them to describe themselves. To do so makes as much sense as a Welsh
(derived from the Englisc word for "Foreigner") person referring to
themselves in that way in a historical context . Cymru - meaning "the folk"
is, I believe, far more accurate.

That should do it ..................


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kathy
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To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Greetings > Would it be possible for me to get those, as well? > Raghnailt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Field [SMTP:marfield66@sympatico.ca] > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 17:23 > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > Hello & Welcome Kathy ! > > Glad to hear from you and learn of your interest in Regia Anglorum and our > > growing presence in North America. > > As the North American membership officer I will be sending a seperate > > email to you which will include two accompanying introductory > > attachments. > > All the best > > Martin Field > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kathy > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:47 PM > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings > > > > I just discovered this list after visiting the main Regia Anglorum > > site.. I was quite delighted to learn there was a North American branch > > and there were Canadians involved as well.. > > I am currently a member of the SCA out here in British Columbia.. > > (Lionsgate/Vancouver) and quite interested in medieval time frame . My > > persona is a 12th century Celtic widow.. M'lord is a young Norseman.. > > I Look fwd to hearing from members of this list > > > > Catriona ingen Mhuirdeach > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********* Email Confidentiality Statement ********* > Visit http://www.saintfrancis.com/emailconf.asp > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 03:34:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Dorian & Tricia Butcher) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 19:34:11 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Oswald In-Reply-To: <026201c3ab21$c0ac65a0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <94074E72-171C-11D8-B71E-000A957D53D6@easystreet.com> --Apple-Mail-2-365738572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thats right, Kathy. Those of here in Portland are about as close to you=20= as we are to Owsald, and we still manage to get together with him on=20 occasion. Next time we do something fun, you should come for a visit. Dorian On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Martin Field wrote: > Don't forget the fine chaps and chapesses in Portland, OR. > Martin. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathy > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Oswald > > Well well well,=A0 Oregon, California and Nevada are getting a wee bit=20= > closer to home.. for those of us lving up in BC..=A0=A0 great=A0 = websites=20 > too, Oswald > =A0 --Apple-Mail-2-365738572 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thats right, Kathy. Those of here in Portland are about as close to you as we are to Owsald, and we still manage to get together with him on occasion. Next time we do something fun, you should come for a visit. Dorian On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Martin Field wrote: ArialDon't forget the fine chaps and chapesses in Portland, OR. ArialMartin. ----- Original Message ----- From: = 1999,1999,FFFFKathy To: = 1999,1999,FFFFlist-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Oswald Well well well,=A0 Oregon, California and Nevada are getting a wee bit closer to home.. for those of us lving up in BC..=A0=A0 great=A0 = websites too, Oswald =A0 = --Apple-Mail-2-365738572-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 04:00:53 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 22:00:53 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: <5A2DC495.50B46E92.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Message-ID: <003101c3ab2d$1161b580$948a0d0c@house> Greetings all, Being a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly Viking/Saxon/Norman list, normally I just lurk, but I have a question. Museum Replicas Limited has a demo/documentary about the use of the "Viking" sword on VHS: http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will reserve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this videotape, and is it worth owning? Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Just trying to decide what to ask for (or not) for Christmas. Thanks, Conall From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 05:14:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:14:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Celt was Fashions/Oswald In-Reply-To: <94074E72-171C-11D8-B71E-000A957D53D6@easystreet.com> Message-ID: <20031115051411.66710.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2075868241-1068873251=:63596 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh HO.. i shall definitely keep that in mind some time when Bjorn/Bren has some time off from work.. unlike me poor darlin still has to work for a living.. :( Kathy Dorian & Tricia Butcher wrote: Thats right, Kathy. Those of here in Portland are about as close to you as we are to Owsald, and we still manage to get together with him on occasion. Next time we do something fun, you should come for a visit. Dorian --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2075868241-1068873251=:63596 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Oh HO.. i shall  definitely keep that in mind some time when Bjorn/Bren has some time off from work..  unlike me  poor darlin still has to work for a living.. :(
Kathy

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as we are to Owsald, and we still manage to get together with him on
occasion. Next time we do something fun, you should come for a visit.

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2075868241-1068873251=:63596-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 06:21:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:21:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Message-ID: <30174500.1068877317230.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> ------=_Part_25794_23184639.1068877317228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. Bill (Leifr) Message date : Nov 15 2003, 04:01 AM >From : Conall To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Greetings all, Being a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly Viking/Saxon/Norman list, normally I just lurk, but I have a question. Museum Replicas Limited has a demo/documentary about the use of the "Viking" sword on VHS: http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will reserve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this videotape, and is it worth owning? Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Just trying to decide what to ask for (or not) for Christmas. Thanks, Conall _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_25794_23184639.1068877317228 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched it= .  I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's = are not working.  I am planning on trying to get them working soon, be= cause I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping = the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have = a second look sometime.  If I manage to get one (of the three...thank = goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis.

 

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Greetings all,
Being = a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly
Viking/Saxon/Norman lis= t, normally I just lurk, but I have a question.

Museum Replicas Lim= ited has a demo/documentary about the use of the
"Viking" sword on VHS:=

http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront
In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will
res= erve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this
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------=_Part_25794_23184639.1068877317228-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 14:58:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Arthur) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:58:33 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz Message-ID: <01C3AB4E.44E76500.valhalla_hes@direcway.com> My tunic has a quare neck opening. Kjartan Thorkelsson ____________________ Matthew 21:44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [SMTP:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 1:23 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: [Regia-NA] pop quiz okay hands up.. you have 30 seconds to tell me how many of you mighty warriors have a neck opening in your tunics? or is the neck opening just an oval.. clock is running grin kathy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard << File: ATT00000.html >> From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 17:01:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:01:54 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] costume was Nathan Message-ID: Are you talking about Simplicity 8587? There appear to be elements that are useable for 10th-11th century costume, and a few to be avoided! Has anyone here looked this? On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >From: Kathy >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:15:44 >-0800 (PST) > >Nod I amnot sure about the lacing either.. but the patterns is a Simplicity >pattern that very conveniently has a man's tunic and undershirt, as well as >trews.. aPeasant costume.. i am going to make a few modifications to >suit Bjorn of course > >kathy > >nathan wrote: >Erm... > >Not so sure about the lacing thou. > >As i said i pin them (little annular broach or disk broch normally) > >N. >-----Original Message----- >From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On >Behalf Of Kathy >Sent: 14 November 2003 20:55 >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] pop quiz/Nathan > > >Ah thanks to the winner.. a pitcher of mead.. ( oh you wish!) >That is a big help as i am about to cut out two tunics from one pattern, >and it shows a longish front opening that is laced at the top for the >outer tunic.. wish me luck >Hugz to you too > >kathy > >nathan wrote: >Hand up > >All my tunics have relativeley tight neck fittings and & slit (pinned >together when i am dressing up). That way i avoid sunburn (being a pale >skinned brit i mange it with even our summer sun). > >Hugz >N. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 19:59:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jack Garrett) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:59:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question In-Reply-To: <003101c3ab2d$1161b580$948a0d0c@house> Message-ID: <20031115195906.4737.qmail@web80213.mail.yahoo.com> --0-714883218-1068926346=:3910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Conall, I've got the Viking Sword video and last watched it about six months ago. I recommend it, especially for those of us who have limited access to Viking era live steel combat. The combatants are experienced, reasonably properly dressed for the occasion and put some energy into the re-enactments. It includes four sections: sword vs. sword, sword and shield without armor, sword and shield with minimal armor and (later period) sword and shield with full armor. Most compellingly, the video makes a point of recognizing *how* the weapons do the most damage and shows that the shield is something more than a target for your opponent to destroy. Several caveats: (1) They use the metal-rimmed Museum Replicas Viking shield, which I haven't seen any documentation to support (2) It's narrated, with participation, by Hank Reinhardt (not everyone's favorite authority) Beyond that, I've seen, and own, far worse. Osweald, you saw it at the collegium. Remember enough to comment? Ottar/Jack Conall wrote: Greetings all, Being a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly Viking/Saxon/Norman list, normally I just lurk, but I have a question. Museum Replicas Limited has a demo/documentary about the use of the "Viking" sword on VHS: http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will reserve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this videotape, and is it worth owning? Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Just trying to decide what to ask for (or not) for Christmas. Thanks, Conall _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --0-714883218-1068926346=:3910 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Conall,
 
I've got the Viking Sword video and last watched it about six months ago.  I recommend it, especially for those of us who have limited access to Viking era live steel combat.  The combatants are experienced, reasonably properly dressed for the occasion and put some energy into the re-enactments.  It includes four sections: sword vs. sword, sword and shield without armor, sword and shield with minimal armor and (later period) sword and shield with full armor.
 
Most compellingly, the video makes a point of recognizing *how* the weapons do the most damage and shows that the shield is something more than a target for your opponent to destroy.
 
Several caveats:
(1) They use the metal-rimmed Museum Replicas Viking shield, which I haven't seen any documentation to support
(2) It's narrated, with participation, by Hank Reinhardt (not everyone's favorite authority)
 
Beyond that, I've seen, and own, far worse.  Osweald, you saw it at the collegium.  Remember enough to comment?
 
Ottar/Jack

Conall <conallwolf@multipro.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
Being a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly
Viking/Saxon/Norman list, normally I just lurk, but I have a question.

Museum Replicas Limited has a demo/documentary about the use of the
"Viking" sword on VHS:

http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront

In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will
reserve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this
videotape, and is it worth owning?

Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Just
trying to decide what to ask for (or not) for Christmas.

Thanks,

Conall

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--0-714883218-1068926346=:3910-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 22:30:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:30:04 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Bill's Meeting References: <02a701c3aab9$4fba31a0$07702052@kim1> <004e01c3aba3$fdcbb2b0$13156751@duron800> Message-ID: <02ce01c3abc8$044a6860$7900a8c0@field> Regards Bill's upcoming meeting I wanted to offer him some support and most importantly convey to any people on the sidelines who are still debating whether to attend some incentive of sorts. I had requested some info on Bill so people will know the great guy he is and what he can offer, which according to the following is one heck of alot !! Read on ...... Re: Bill Tate > Hi Martin, > As Bill was a member of the same local group as me, and I was for part of > that time his group leader. > Bill's a really nice guy. I know that sounds simplistic, but he really is a > really nice guy. Helpful, considerate, enthusiastic and a bundle of fun, > does his research and seeks opinions to check he's right, then gets down and > does the job. > > You always get people joining who sound enthusiastic and keen to get > involved, and when it comes to the crunch they don't turn up, or expect you > to do everything for them. Not so Bill. He always made the effort, learned > how to do things and got on and did them. He's a mover and shaker, one of > those people that makes things happen, and I've never known him to upset > anyone doing it, which is a hard thing to achieve. > > A competant and safe fighter, always honourable on the battlefield, then he > got back trouble so concentrated more in the civilian/craft side of things. > Got a good LHE display together, taught himself to do bone carving as a > craft display with authentic tools, put together a church display and did > the research for that - managed to bless one of the most rabid pagans on the > battlefield when said pagan was lying 'dead' and couldn't run away - much to > everyone's amusement - > > Everyone in Regia UK loves him to bits, and wants him back - what more can I > say? Make the most of him whilst you've got him, 'cos we're keen to have him > back as soon as he can swing it! > > Chris. There, so now you have it and now all you have to do is attend the meeting !! From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 21:26:30 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:26:30 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: <30174500.1068877317230.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> Message-ID: <003001c3abc8$b16a2bc0$ae870d0c@house> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C3AB8C.D80F2C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited = budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't = offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video = because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products from = Museum Replicas. =20 Thanks, Conall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched = it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's = are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working soon, = because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and = taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would = like to have a second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the = three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. Bill (Leifr) ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C3AB8C.D80F2C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would appreciate the input.  My family and I are on a very = limited=20 budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper".  I hope this = doesn't offend=20 any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video = because I have=20 been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum = Replicas. =20
 
       =20 Thanks,
 
    Conall
 
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Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR = Viking Sword=20 Video Question

I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually = watched=20 it.  I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my = VCR's=20 are not working.  I am planning on trying to get them working = soon,=20 because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and = taping=20 the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to = have a=20 second look sometime.  If I manage to get one (of the = three...thank=20 goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis.

 

Bill (Leifr)

------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C3AB8C.D80F2C30-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 22:12:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:12:14 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: [Regia-NA]Swords References: <116.2b3958d6.2ce5745b@aol.com> Message-ID: <003101c3abc8$b2ff71c0$ae870d0c@house> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C3AB93.3B907150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings all, In reference to the recent thread about sword quality, does anyone = have any opinions about the quality of live steel weapons from Del Tin? = I'm talking about sharp steel by the way, not rebated edges. Just = wondering, primarily about the Norse-style swords they offer. In terms of steel weapons for actual combat with blunt edges, = TherionArms offers a line of weapons made in the Czech Republic that are = supposed to be sufficient quality for either rebated combat or sharpened = for actual use. =20 He has some axes at: http://therionarms.com/reenact/weaponry.shtml And the Czech swords down near the bottom of the page at: = http://therionarms.com/reenact/swords.shtml Does anyone here have any experience with these Czech blades? Are = they legal to use for Regia combat? Asking more stupid questions, Conall ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C3AB93.3B907150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings all,
     In reference to the recent thread about = sword=20 quality, does anyone have any opinions about the quality of live steel = weapons=20 from Del Tin?  I'm talking about sharp steel by the way, not = rebated=20 edges.  Just wondering, primarily about the Norse-style swords they = offer.
 
    In terms of = steel weapons for actual combat with blunt edges, TherionArms = offers a=20 line of weapons made in the Czech Republic that are supposed to=20 be sufficient quality for either rebated combat or sharpened for = actual=20 use.  
 
    He has some axes at: http://therionarms= .com/reenact/weaponry.shtml
 
 
    And the Czech swords down near the bottom of the = page=20 at: http://therionarms.c= om/reenact/swords.shtml
 
    Does anyone here have any experience with these = Czech=20 blades?  Are they legal to use for Regia combat?
 
    Asking more = stupid=20 questions,
 
        Conall
 
   
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C3AB93.3B907150-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 15 22:34:51 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 16:34:51 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions Message-ID: <003201c3abc8$b44f9870$ae870d0c@house> Greetings folks, Since I have de-lurked for the question about the Museum Replicas video, I might as well take the plunge and ask some more questions. How does that Mark Twain quote go, "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt"...oh well. Here goes anyway. I have several questions, so please forgive my ignorance. I guess that before I start asking about stuff I should be polite and make an introduction. My name is Conall (the rest is too long and Gaeilge to inflict on you right now). I have been involved in the SCA for almost 13 years now, in four different kingdoms including in Europe for a couple of years. In the SCA I am an early 11th C. Irishman, 1003 AD (yeah I know they were still on the Julian calendar but y'all get the idea). I am a bit of an "experience junkie", and have always been willing to try heat, cold, weather, etc. to try and find out "what it was really like". In recent years I have been trying on my limited budget to get my SCA kit up to Living History levels of authenticity. For a rough starting guide I have used the Kit Guidelines from John Nicholl (who I think is from NFPS; The Vikings) that I found on the site for Gael agus Gall website( http://homepage.tinet.ie/~gael/gaelweb/kit.html) as well as trying to absorb all of the articles on the main Regia website and doing research on my own. I joined this list in hopes of further improving my levels of personal authenticity. I hope you learned folks don't mind me picking your brains. My main question is, are there any allowances in Regia Anglorum for 11th C. Irish? Certainly they were around in Britain at the time, and the Norse were heavily involved in Dublin, Waterford, Wexford, Limerick, and elsewhere, but is there any place for us Gaels in the RA-NA organization? If so, what would be the guidelines? Hope I don't sound like a goofball. Thanks for your time, Conall From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 00:47:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:47:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question In-Reply-To: <003001c3abc8$b16a2bc0$ae870d0c@house> Message-ID: <20031116004700.81005.qmail@web25003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-2025112344-1068943620=:79365 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Having bought some MR products i can definatly say that some of thier stuff is great & some absolutely pants.The best advice i can give is for you to buy based on a recomendation from people who have & use weapons from a good company.Paul Binns blade are very {very!} good & i've seen them for sale in America cheaper than i can buy in the UK.Other than that shop about & ask peoples opinion before parting with your hard earned cash. Regards, Mik Conall wrote: I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum Replicas. Thanks, Conall ----- Original Message ----- From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. Bill (Leifr) Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-2025112344-1068943620=:79365 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Having bought some MR products i can definatly say that some of thier stuff is great & some absolutely pants.The best advice i can give is for you to buy based on a recomendation from people who have & use weapons from a good company.Paul Binns blade are very {very!} good & i've seen them for sale in America cheaper than i can buy in the UK.Other than that shop about & ask peoples opinion before parting with your hard earned cash.
Regards,
 Mik

Conall <conallwolf@multipro.com> wrote:
I would appreciate the input.  My family and I are on a very limited budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper".  I hope this doesn't offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum Replicas. 
 
        Thanks,
 
    Conall
 
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Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question

I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched it.  I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's are not working.  I am planning on trying to get them working soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a second look sometime.  If I manage to get one (of the three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis.

 

Bill (Leifr)



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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-2025112344-1068943620=:79365-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 01:03:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:03:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: [Regia-NA]Swords In-Reply-To: <003101c3abc8$b2ff71c0$ae870d0c@house> Message-ID: <20031116010350.83599.qmail@web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-355802858-1068944630=:80425 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The interpretation staff use Del Tin swords at the Royal Armouries but i believe that they don't use them for actual combat.Historically they are vey good but they don't warrant them for combat use & they are nearly sharp. At 2mm the Czech swords are on the thin side for regia combat but they shape is good & they look accurate. The Paul Chen swords look a bit dodgy & i believe that they don't stand up to combat to well but take in to account i've never actually seen the blade used in combat & i'm only going off reports. The Axes look smart but if you intend using them in combat,take the sharp corners off the cutting edge & grind/file it down to a 3mm cutting edge{corners should be the same diameter as a quarter[ or a coin about 1" accross]} Just remember that Axes don't take the same punishment that sword do so grinding the edges down won't effect the weapon.You could do the same for the swords but i don't think they would stand up to combat to well & at $300 you can buy one cheaper from England & have it posted to you. I hope this helps? Regards, Mik Conall wrote: Greetings all, In reference to the recent thread about sword quality, does anyone have any opinions about the quality of live steel weapons from Del Tin? I'm talking about sharp steel by the way, not rebated edges. Just wondering, primarily about the Norse-style swords they offer. In terms of steel weapons for actual combat with blunt edges, TherionArms offers a line of weapons made in the Czech Republic that are supposed to be sufficient quality for either rebated combat or sharpened for actual use. He has some axes at: http://therionarms.com/reenact/weaponry.shtml And the Czech swords down near the bottom of the page at: http://therionarms.com/reenact/swords.shtml Does anyone here have any experience with these Czech blades? Are they legal to use for Regia combat? Asking more stupid questions, Conall Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-355802858-1068944630=:80425 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
The interpretation staff use Del Tin swords at the Royal Armouries but i believe that they don't use them for actual combat.Historically they are vey good but they don't warrant them for combat use & they are nearly sharp.
At 2mm the Czech swords are on the thin side for regia combat but they shape is good & they look accurate.
The Paul Chen swords look a bit dodgy & i believe that they don't stand up to combat to well but take in to account i've never actually seen the blade used in combat & i'm only going off reports.
The Axes look smart but if you intend using them in combat,take the sharp corners off the cutting edge & grind/file it down to a 3mm cutting edge{corners should be the same diameter as a quarter[ or a coin about 1" accross]}
Just remember that Axes don't take the same punishment that sword do so grinding the edges down won't effect the weapon.You could do the same for the swords but i don't think they would stand up to combat to well & at $300 you can buy one cheaper from England & have it posted to you.
I hope this helps?
Regards,
Mik
 
 


Conall <conallwolf@multipro.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
     In reference to the recent thread about sword quality, does anyone have any opinions about the quality of live steel weapons from Del Tin?  I'm talking about sharp steel by the way, not rebated edges.  Just wondering, primarily about the Norse-style swords they offer.
 
    In terms of steel weapons for actual combat with blunt edges, TherionArms offers a line of weapons made in the Czech Republic that are supposed to be sufficient quality for either rebated combat or sharpened for actual use.  
 
 
 
    And the Czech swords down near the bottom of the page at: http://therionarms.com/reenact/swords.shtml
 
    Does anyone here have any experience with these Czech blades?  Are they legal to use for Regia combat?
 
    Asking more stupid questions,
 
        Conall
 
   


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-355802858-1068944630=:80425-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 01:11:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:11:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions In-Reply-To: <003201c3abc8$b44f9870$ae870d0c@house> Message-ID: <20031116011150.83052.qmail@web25003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-447552926-1068945110=:82984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit No reason that an Irish man can't be in good ole England if a Norweigian from Kaupang via Bergen can't be living in England.As the crow flies i don't live far from Man or Eire & when the Norse left Dublin they probably settled on the Northwest English coast along with a lot of Irish allies. Mik {who really should be in bed} Conall wrote: My main question is, are there any allowances in Regia Anglorum for 11th C. Irish? Certainly they were around in Britain at the time, and the Norse were heavily involved in Dublin, Waterford, Wexford, Limerick, and elsewhere, but is there any place for us Gaels in the RA-NA organization? If so, what would be the guidelines? Hope I don't sound like a goofball. Thanks for your time, Conall _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-447552926-1068945110=:82984 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
No reason that an Irish man can't be in good ole England if a Norweigian from Kaupang via Bergen can't be living in England.As the crow flies i don't live far from Man or Eire & when the Norse left Dublin they probably settled on the Northwest English coast along with a lot of Irish allies.
Mik {who really should be in bed}

Conall <conallwolf@multipro.com> wrote:
My main question is, are there any allowances in Regia Anglorum for 11th
C. Irish? Certainly they were around in Britain at the time, and the Norse
were heavily involved in Dublin, Waterford, Wexford, Limerick, and
elsewhere, but is there any place for us Gaels in the RA-NA organization?
If so, what would be the guidelines?

Hope I don't sound like a goofball.

Thanks for your time,

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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-447552926-1068945110=:82984-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 02:48:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:48:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] costume was Nathan/Oswald In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031116024811.13514.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-340191499-1068950891=:10172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thats the one Oswald.. good guess or is that one you have used yourself.. So far i am only making the shirts, one with close-fitting sleeves for an undertuic and one with the wider sleeves for an over tunic .. I am not a skilled enough seamstress that i can take a lenght of cloth.. go snip snip snip and voila! a nice peice of period garb.. So patterns at this point are a must for me.. and i can adapt them to my own needs. Esepcially when it comes to necklines and sleeves. I would be grateful for any suggestions you have re this particular pattern Kathy Douglas Sunlin wrote: Are you talking about Simplicity 8587? There appear to be elements that are useable for 10th-11th century costume, and a few to be avoided! Has anyone here looked this? On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-340191499-1068950891=:10172 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thats the one Oswald..  good guess or is that one you have used yourself..
So far i am only making the  shirts, one with close-fitting sleeves for an undertuic and one with the wider sleeves for an over tunic ..  I am not a skilled enough seamstress that i can  take a lenght of cloth.. go snip snip snip and voila! a  nice  peice of period garb.. 
So patterns at this point are a must for me.. and i can adapt them to my own needs. Esepcially when it comes to necklines and sleeves.
 
I would be grateful for any suggestions you have re this particular pattern
 
Kathy

Douglas Sunlin <dsunlin@hotmail.com> wrote:
Are you talking about Simplicity 8587? There appear to be elements that are
useable for 10th-11th century costume, and a few to be avoided! Has anyone
here looked this?



On manræden,
Osweald of Baldurstrand
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-340191499-1068950891=:10172-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 04:06:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:06:06 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Domestic Wooden Artifacts in Britain Message-ID: <3FB6F7AE.6010300@bellsouth.net> It took me several years to find this thing and multiple (4?) attempts to buy it. Now the thing is available at the biggest booksellers. Go figure. This is not a large format book. I would only buy it if I were really interested in the subject of early wooden working in which case it is one of the better ones. Keep in mind a lot of things survive in wet contexts. I don't remember it being definitive though, nor is it highly illustrative. Some of the stuff in it is a bit amazing though. Shirebooks.com has something along with line of Wood in Archaeology that isn't too bad. Archaeology by Experiment also wasn't too bad. Earwood, Caroline: Domestic Wooden Artifacts in Britain and Ireland to Viking Times University of Exeter Press Hardcover, 320pp, December 1993, ISBN: 0859893898, 136 pls & figs, cloth, dust jacket, small quarto. An excellent survey & classification of items mainly from wetland sites including buckets, bowls etc. Barnes & Noble.com bn.com [United States] Hardcover, ISBN: 0859893898 Publisher: University of Exeter Press Free shipping in the US (see site for details) $79.95 Amazon.com [United States] Hardcover, ISBN: 0859893898 Publisher: University of Exeter Press $85.00 Note: Amazon has free shipping on anything over $25 now and it's getting particularly good on heavy discounts on CDs and movies. Something to keep in mind for Christmas. I give our nieces cash value cards from the bookstores and let them get what they want. I remember too well the cheesy plastic gifts we so often got from our uncles and aunts. Plastic pens with four color cartridges for example. One decided I liked hot ginger candy and over the next dozen years we accumulated a cupboard shelf full of the stuff that no one would eat. I couldn't believe it when it came with us when we changed houses. It may still be there nearly 40 years later. Maybe it repels roaches. As my step-father just died maybe someone will finally throw it out. None of us kids live near there anymore. This year the wife and I sent many small boxes of gifts to the troops in the Gulf. DVDs, carving kits I made up, new novels, colorful stationery and greeting cards for them to send to their children, wives, parents. Hard candy and assorted gums, hygiene items. Those noble volunteers are there to protect you. To do it the easy way: http://www.usometrodc.org/care.html Master Magnus, OL, Barony of Windmasters Hill [SCA], Regia.org, Manx, GDH From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 18:16:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (santell juan) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:16:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns Message-ID: <20031116181611.43307.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> What about the patterns found at these two sites. Perhaps they would be more acceptable than the Simplicity pattern. http://gersey.tripod.com/history/tunic.html http://www.larp.com/midgard/tunic.htm Please, any comments on these from the knowledgeable? I'm looking to begin my kit and need a decent pattern also. If these won't work, can anyone point me to one that will? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 18:41:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:41:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns In-Reply-To: <20031116181611.43307.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031116184106.99347.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-425770519-1069008066=:98422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the links. two more to add to my files. And Oswald, if you get a chance could you let me know if the leg wraps shown in the Simplicity pattern we were discussing were worn in our time period? everyone else feel free to comment too kathy santell juan wrote: What about the patterns found at these two sites. Perhaps they would be more acceptable than the Simplicity pattern. http://gersey.tripod.com/history/tunic.html http://www.larp.com/midgard/tunic.htm Please, any comments on these from the knowledgeable? I'm looking to begin my kit and need a decent pattern also. If these won't work, can anyone point me to one that will? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-425770519-1069008066=:98422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks for the links.  two more to add to my files. And Oswald, if you get a chance could you let me know if the leg wraps  shown in the Simplicity pattern we were discussing were worn in our time period?
everyone else feel free to comment too
kathy

santell juan <jpsantell@yahoo.com> wrote:
What about the patterns found at these two sites.
Perhaps they would be more acceptable than the
Simplicity pattern.
http://gersey.tripod.com/history/tunic.html

http://www.larp.com/midgard/tunic.htm

Please, any comments on these from the knowledgeable?
I'm looking to begin my kit and need a decent pattern
also. If these won't work, can anyone point me to one
that will?

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-425770519-1069008066=:98422-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 20:06:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:06:45 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Message-ID: You know, Ottar it's been a while. One thing if I recall correctly, he doesn't spend much time with the documentation from the sagas and what was actually done in period. Rather he focuses on what could have been done with the tools at hand. YMMV. Worthy of joining your collection, at the very least to play "let's see what's inauthentic". On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >From: Jack Garrett >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question >Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:59:06 -0800 (PST) > >Conall, > >I've got the Viking Sword video and last watched it about six months ago. >I recommend it, especially for those of us who have limited access to >Viking era live steel combat. The combatants are experienced, reasonably >properly dressed for the occasion and put some energy into the >re-enactments. It includes four sections: sword vs. sword, sword and >shield without armor, sword and shield with minimal armor and (later >period) sword and shield with full armor. > >Most compellingly, the video makes a point of recognizing *how* the weapons >do the most damage and shows that the shield is something more than a >target for your opponent to destroy. > >Several caveats: >(1) They use the metal-rimmed Museum Replicas Viking shield, which I >haven't seen any documentation to support >(2) It's narrated, with participation, by Hank Reinhardt (not everyone's >favorite authority) > >Beyond that, I've seen, and own, far worse. Osweald, you saw it at the >collegium. Remember enough to comment? > >Ottar/Jack > >Conall wrote: >Greetings all, >Being a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly >Viking/Saxon/Norman list, normally I just lurk, but I have a question. > >Museum Replicas Limited has a demo/documentary about the use of the >"Viking" sword on VHS: > >http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront > >In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will >reserve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this >videotape, and is it worth owning? > >Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Just >trying to decide what to ask for (or not) for Christmas. > >Thanks, > >Conall > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on high-speed Internet access as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 20:16:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:16:40 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Message-ID: Mik, "pants" is not good, yes? >Having bought some MR products i can definatly say that some of thier stuff >is great & some absolutely pants....>Regards, > Mik _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 20:23:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:23:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031116202339.89375.qmail@web25003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1368151578-1069014219=:88151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry Englishism!Pants as in bad,not very good,horrible.A bit like Deepeka,when they are good they are very good & when they are bad they are very,very horrible. Regards, Mik Douglas Sunlin wrote: Mik, "pants" is not good, yes? >Having bought some MR products i can definatly say that some of thier stuff >is great & some absolutely pants....>Regards, > Mik Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1368151578-1069014219=:88151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Sorry Englishism!Pants as in bad,not very good,horrible.A bit like Deepeka,when they are good they are very good & when they are bad they are very,very horrible.
Regards,
Mik

Douglas Sunlin <dsunlin@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mik, "pants" is not good, yes?

>Having bought some MR products i can definatly say that some of thier stuff
>is great & some absolutely pants....>Regards,
> Mik


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1368151578-1069014219=:88151-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 20:34:18 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:34:18 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns Message-ID: Kathy: Did somebody say legwraps? ;) Try this: http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/winingas/winingas.html >From: Kathy >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns >Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:41:06 -0800 (PST) > >Thanks for the links. two more to add to my files. And Oswald, if you get >a chance could you let me know if the leg wraps shown in the Simplicity >pattern we were discussing were worn in our time period? >everyone else feel free to comment too >kathy watch me trim my posts! :) _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 20:54:23 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:54:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031116205423.99948.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-739495797-1069016063=:99033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes you heard someone say Legwraps.. thanks for the link.. Kathy trying to trim her posts. Douglas Sunlin wrote: Kathy: Did somebody say legwraps? ;) Try this: http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/winingas/winingas.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-739495797-1069016063=:99033 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yes you heard someone say Legwraps..   thanks for the link..
Kathy   trying to trim her posts. <g>

Douglas Sunlin <dsunlin@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kathy:

Did somebody say legwraps? ;)
Try this:
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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-739495797-1069016063=:99033-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 22:38:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Carolyn Priest-Dorman) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:38:16 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns In-Reply-To: <20031116181611.43307.qmail@web41003.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031116173433.01b133f0@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Juan wrote: >What about the patterns found at these two sites. >Perhaps they would be more acceptable than the >Simplicity pattern. >http://gersey.tripod.com/history/tunic.html These people mirrored my tunic article without my permission, and they made changes to it to boot. As an author and holder of the copyright on the article, I disapprove of this and prefer that people read the article at my own website. You can find the original article here. http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/viktunic.html For more articles on things Viking, see my Viking Resources for the Re-Enactor page. http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/vikresource.html Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 00:42:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:42:11 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Heritage Beads issue. Message-ID: <3FB81963.4030301@bellsouth.net> The last issue of Viking Heritage Magazine out of Gotland, Sweden was on Viking Age beads and had a lot of color illustrations in it. http://frojel.hgo.se Click under Viking Heritage at the bottom. http://viking.hgo.se/Newsletter/newissue303.html If you are interested in Viking History you really ought to subscribe anyway. Most archaeological news and books related to the Vikings are in it. I have from volume 2 on. There are CD-Roms on Viking Beads, Combs, Knives and Sheathes also available in addition to books there. Master Magnus, OL, the Great Barony of Windmasters Hill [SCA], Regia.org, Manx, GDH Please do not repost to usenet newsgroups with my address on it. This would include the Rialto. I do this as a service, I don't need the aggravation. Your local Kingdom, canton, shire, guild, or elist friends are fine. From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 01:49:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:49:17 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: Message-ID: <3FB8291D.8000005@bellsouth.net> Douglas Sunlin wrote: > You know, Ottar it's been a while. One thing if I recall correctly, he > doesn't spend much time with the documentation from the sagas and what > was actually done in period. Rather he focuses on what could have been > done with the tools at hand. YMMV. > > Worthy of joining your collection, at the very least to play "let's see > what's inauthentic". > > On manræden, > Osweald of Baldurstrand > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age > http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ > >> From: Jack Garrett >> Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >> To: list-regia-na@lig.net >> Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question >> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:59:06 -0800 (PST) >> >> Conall, >> >> I've got the Viking Sword video and last watched it about six months >> ago. I recommend it, especially for those of us who have limited >> access to Viking era live steel combat. The combatants are >> experienced, reasonably properly dressed for the occasion and put some >> energy into the re-enactments. It includes four sections: sword vs. >> sword, sword and shield without armor, sword and shield with minimal >> armor and (later period) sword and shield with full armor. >> >> Most compellingly, the video makes a point of recognizing *how* the >> weapons do the most damage and shows that the shield is something more >> than a target for your opponent to destroy. Thank you for the review. I was looking at that thing and wondering if it was worth the price. I've been stung a couple of times on videos priced that high that were not all they were advertised to be. >> Several caveats: >> (1) They use the metal-rimmed Museum Replicas Viking shield, which I >> haven't seen any documentation to support Seems like I have seen a metal rimmed and decorated shield in one of the pictures on Hrothgar's site. I've seen it elsewhere too, but I am not sure of it being within Regia's time period. It has heavy metal scrollwork on it. It would be a good bet to repel a heavy blow. It looks dark age to me. >> (2) It's narrated, with participation, by Hank Reinhardt (not >> everyone's favorite authority) I'll agree with that. Hank has a very high opinion of his opinion. Eighteen? years ago I bought a sword from MR and returned it asking for a sword that did NOT have a hollow polished into it midway down the length of the blade. I even paid the extra postage for the transaction both ways. I was polite. The catalog suggested a cheerful return policy even. I got a rather lengthy discourse on his opinion of my opinion on the crappy example and he returned my check. Something was said about the polishing machine and how far it could go down the blade. Well I could put a straight edge on the flat of the blade and see a substantial amount of light across the very visible dip polished into it. He must have been blind. If you've ever read some of Hank's articles they go pretty much the same way. I've seen them in various publications mostly in the Knives Illustrated, Blade, and Arms magazines. For example he once wrote that no culture had double faced axes. Well, some did beginning with the MINOANS, which is pretty far back. In fact it was a symbol of the Minoan culture and is used to decorate the reconstructed palace at Knossos. At the time he was bragging in print about having eighty books on swords and armor I recall. I've way exceeded that myself. So have some of you probably. I simply called and reordered and the next one came without the dip across the blade. It was a Del Tin product, the Catalonian sword, which they still produce on and off. But at that time it was hard to find a decent swordmaker who made halfway decent swords as opposed to now when there is real competition in the marketplace. Shortly thereafter the price nearly doubled on them so it wasn't a bad buy. I think I have every MR catalog from the initial 2 page flyer when they started up. I still buy stuff from Museum Replicas, and Atlanta Cutlery periodically, but I don't deal with Hank directly. I'm curious as to what might have happened that apparently separated MR from Ewart Oakeshott, whom he was using to promote the high quality of their stuff for a while, until Ewart started promoting someone else's stuff instead. I have all of Ewart's big books except for one I should receive in the next month on Viking Age Swords. I am missing a few of his small books primarily aimed at the literate teenager who's curious. I've also learned that a lot of the stuff MR sells these days is from companies Hank used to criticize rather highly in the days before he began taking marching orders from Windlass Steelcrafts in India who bought MR and AC out. So it's worth cross checking a few sources as you can save serious bucks buying the same thing from competitors who can price it much less. I picked up a Holbein dagger at Pennsic two years ago for $20+ and I swear I saw it on MR at $100+ a month later. Clearly, MR no longer leads the market as to quality now but it was about our best source over here for a while in the 1980's when it started up. Once they promoted the heavy tangs on ALL their swords. Now they don't. Now a lot of companies flog the same items at a variety of prices and some of them are plainly cheap. I like some of Albion Armor's stuff myself. It's better made. They sell Del Tin now and other swordsmiths too. The books Museum Replicas sells are often cheaper on the open market. I use bookfinder.com / abebooks / addall.com / ZVAB.com primarily and specialize from there. Amazon is posting significant discounts on many things now and even pays the postage on orders over $25. As to the Osprey books MR sells from time to time they often are available at good discount from scholarsbookshelf.com much cheaper than either MR or the Ospreypublishing.com site. Magnus >> >> Beyond that, I've seen, and own, far worse. Osweald, you saw it at >> the collegium. Remember enough to comment? >> >> Ottar/Jack >> >> Conall wrote: >> Greetings all, >> Being a relative neophyte and an Irishman on a mainly >> Viking/Saxon/Norman list, normally I just lurk, but I have a question. >> >> Museum Replicas Limited has a demo/documentary about the use of the >> "Viking" sword on VHS: >> >> http://store.museumreplicas.com/cgi-bin/www11650.storefront >> >> In the past I have owned several Museum Replicas weapons and will >> reserve comment on them, but I was wondering if anyone had seen this >> videotape, and is it worth owning? >> >> Any information anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. Just >> trying to decide what to ask for (or not) for Christmas. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Conall From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 02:32:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] clothing patterns In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20031116173433.01b133f0@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Message-ID: <20031117023204.45001.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1570118233-1069036324=:43536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thaks for the update, Dora.. I will check out your website.. Kathy Carolyn Priest-Dorman wrote: Juan wrote: >What about the patterns found at these two sites. >Perhaps they would be more acceptable than the >Simplicity pattern. >http://gersey.tripod.com/history/tunic.html These people mirrored my tunic article without my permission, and they made changes to it to boot. As an author and holder of the copyright on the article, I disapprove of this and prefer that people read the article at my own website. You can find the original article here. http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/viktunic.html For more articles on things Viking, see my Viking Resources for the Re-Enactor page. http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/vikresource.html Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1570118233-1069036324=:43536 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thaks for the update, Dora..  I will  check out your website.. 
Kathy

Carolyn Priest-Dorman <capriest@cs.vassar.edu> wrote:
Juan wrote:

>What about the patterns found at these two sites.
>Perhaps they would be more acceptable than the
>Simplicity pattern.
>http://gersey.tripod.com/history/tunic.html

These people mirrored my tunic article without my permission, and they made
changes to it to boot. As an author and holder of the copyright on the
article, I disapprove of this and prefer that people read the article at my
own website.

You can find the original article here.

http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/viktunic.html

For more articles on things Viking, see my Viking Resources for the
Re-Enactor page.

http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/vikresource.html


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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1570118233-1069036324=:43536-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 04:30:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:30:06 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] New Woodwright's Shop Videos Message-ID: <3FB84ECE.7050103@bellsouth.net> You might want to save this post for further perusal as the website at PBS hasn't been updated with season 23 of the Woodwright's Shop, which is already half through. There was an outstanding video yesterday on the Woodwright's Shop on Carving with Rick Cavallo. New and definitely worth ordering. You see him pencil/crayon out the design, modify it to suit himself for acanthus carving {and letter cutting) and set it in and carve it. This would be season 23 which is not up yet apparently but try calling the number below since it is not on the webpage: 1-800-PlayPBS It was at the end of the video with the title. or http://www.shoppbs.com/ search Woodwright's Shop. NTSC format which is only good for North America though. Some of the recent ones were building a wooden workbench that comes apart for transporting. That was a double program. This would also be season 23. The week after that was a program on inlaying white dogwood strip into compass cut arc grooves in a dark wood like walnut and accenting it with round dots of woods of contrasting colors whose holes were cut by auger. Season 23. The compasses were special made for the purpose and fixed in position. Wood with inset blades and pivots of metal. Last season there was another good carving video called Carving with the Cabinetmakers. At $15 U.S. plus shipping they are quite reasonably priced. The speed these guys can carve with is amazing and it looks really easy once you understand the basic concept of carving with the grain. The marquetry master was also quite good. That is there. The turned corner chair is a triangular backed one from one of Brueghel's Dutch painting and is late period. Turned at an early lathe. The gunsmith video involved inlaying silver wire into the stock of the gun, not making the whole gun. These things don't stay available indefinitely. Usually only for two to three years at most. Although there have been special collections of some of the European shows that were for sale for a while. Roy Underhill, author of many early skills woodworking books, passed show number 200 some time ago. While you will see him cut himself (possibly why book six hasn't appeared yet in the series) multiple times you will not see an electrically powered tool in the series. He was the Colonial Williamsburg head carpenter for many years and now is Director of Historical Interpretation. Like me I suppose he's gotten too old, or at least his muscles have. There are a lot fewer older craftsmen than younger ones. They wear out or become set-up men or foremen. The Fools for Tools video simply takes you to a local (to me in NC) http://www.mwtca.org/ meeting for tool collectors and users. If you explore the site you will find it has a link to the Early American Crafts Association website, which society has been writing articles on how things were historically done from as far back as they could research it since 1933. I recently bought the first two twenty-five years each volumes. They are very informative on many crafts and trades and home skills as they were done pre electricity. The third volume would come out about 2008-10 I suppose, but they have a journal as the MWTCA does on old tools. Both organizations sell books on tools and crafts. The EAIA has one with fifty selected articles currently for sale. Master Magnus, OL, Great Barony of Windmasters' Hill [SCA], Regia.org / Manx / GDH © R.M. Howe 2003 Everyone contributes - Everyone learns. - me. Please do not forward to a usenet newsgroup like the Rialto. Your local kingdom, group, or friends are fine. From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 11:49:02 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 05:49:02 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: <3FB84ECE.7050103@bellsouth.net> References: <3FB84ECE.7050103@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1069069742.3fb8b5ae1f630@webmail.usask.ca> OK, first I'll state my position: I do not believe the St. Wenceslaus helmet is authentic. There is no doubt in my mind that it is a medieval helmet, but I do not accept the claim that it actually belonged to St. Wenceslaus, or believe the date attributed to it (late 10th century). Fact- All 10th century European sources outside the sphere of Mediterannean influence depict spangenhelms. Fact- The vast majority of 11th century sources (French, English, Scandinavian) depict spangenhelms, even on the heads of kings. Pictoral sources upheld as evidence of early one-piece helmets are often stylized or simplified to the point of being dismissable. Fact- There are only two raised conical nasal helmets of Western/Central European origin: Olmutz and Wenceslaus. Olmutz is generally accepted to be from around 1100. Fact- the primary reason one-piece helmets are believed by some scholars to be in use in Western/Central Europe before the 1st Crusade is because of the dating for the Wenceslaus Helmet. My theory: The Wenceslaus helmet is from around 1100. It never belonged to St. Wenceslaus. The Prague Cathedral presented it as a relic long after his death to turn the church into a pilgrimage site (relics=pligrims=revenue & prestige). My evidence? None :) Looking here: http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=2040 It is stated that St. Wenceslaus was considered a martyr and a saint almost immediately after his death, but no actual date is given for his canonization. Also, it states that his remains were interred at the Prague Cathedral, but doesn't mention his helmet or hauberk. So, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me: A) When Wenceslaus was officially declared a saint by Rome? If it was at a time when conical raised helmets were in common use (say around 1075-1150), this would lend credential to my theory. B) When the earliest recorded mention of the helmet as a relic is? I don't know if churches kept inventories, or if there were Czech chroniclers of the same sort you find in England or France, but this sort of relic might appear in some early documents. Just thought I'd throw this out there for discussion ~Wil From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 12:24:21 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Gareth Evans) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:24:21 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim Message-ID: Pics 21 to 26 The guy with the Green sheild is my old mate Chris if I am not mistaken. Goose > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp This line certifies that this message has been scanned for the presense of viruses. Using McAfee Groupshield. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Labgear Ltd. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 16:09:31 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:09:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: <1069069742.3fb8b5ae1f630@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: <20031117160931.87632.qmail@web25001.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1263923680-1069085371=:86789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I always believed that one piece helms were from the late 11th c to 12th c? I don't really have an opinion on the authenticity of the claim that it belonged to Wenceslas. Mik PS,i usually avoid the thought of buying a one piece helm for a norse man & wouldn't actually consider buying a one piece until the 14th-15thc for myself. 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I always believed that one piece helms were from the late 11th c to 12th c? I don't really have an opinion on the authenticity of the claim that it belonged to Wenceslas.
Mik
PS,i usually avoid the thought of buying a one piece helm for a norse man & wouldn't actually consider buying a one piece until the 14th-15thc for myself.



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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1263923680-1069085371=:86789-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 16:14:32 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:14:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031117161432.53726.qmail@web25007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1468026583-1069085672=:53364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Boulton it is! Gareth Evans wrote:Pics 21 to 26 The guy with the Green sheild is my old mate Chris if I am not mistaken. Goose > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1468026583-1069085672=:53364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Chris Boulton it is!

Gareth Evans <Gareth.Evans@labgear.co.uk> wrote:
Pics 21 to 26 The guy with the Green sheild is my old mate Chris if I am not
mistaken.

Goose

> http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp




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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1468026583-1069085672=:53364-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 16:25:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Gareth Evans) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:25:19 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim Message-ID: And not a bow in sight.................... All the best Goose -----Original Message----- From: mik lawson [mailto:miklawson@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 17 November 2003 16:15 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim Chris Boulton it is! Gareth Evans wrote: Pics 21 to 26 The guy with the Green sheild is my old mate Chris if I am not mistaken. Goose > http://community.webshots.com/album/63768916bufRUp Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over _____ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger This line certifies that this message has been scanned for the presense of viruses. Using McAfee Groupshield. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Labgear Ltd. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 16:24:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Horn, Trisha D.) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:24:17 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions Message-ID: Two questions, actually. Conall, from whence do you hail? And my second query is, how difficult is tanning a deer hide. I have one in my deep freeze and there it will stay until I am sure what I want to do with it. Curiously, Raghnailt > -----Original Message----- > From: mik lawson [SMTP:miklawson@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 19:12 > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > My main question is, are there any allowances in Regia Anglorum for > 11th > C. Irish? Certainly they were around in Britain at the time, and the > Norse > were heavily involved in Dublin, Waterford, Wexford, Limerick, and > elsewhere, but is there any place for us Gaels in the RA-NA > organization? > If so, what would be the guidelines? > > Hope I don't sound like a goofball. > > Thanks for your time, > > Conall > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over > > _____ > > Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! > Messenger > com/> > > > > ********* Email Confidentiality Statement ********* Visit http://www.saintfrancis.com/emailconf.asp From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 16:59:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:59:17 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions Message-ID: > My name is Conall (the rest is too=20 > long and Gaeilge to inflict on you right now). =20 Wanna bet? > Kit Guidelines from John Nicholl (who I think is from NFPS;=20 > The Vikings) > that I found on the site for Gael agus Gall website( > http://homepage.tinet.ie/~gael/gaelweb/kit.html) I seem to recall that he may be ex-Regia, Dermot certainly is. GaG used = to be loosely affiliated with us - since we didn't have a presence in = Ireland. They used to do shows with us, and I ran into several of them again at Slaine Castle in May. Nice folks. > as well as trying to absorb all of the articles on the main=20 > Regia website > and doing research on my own. I joined this list in hopes of further > improving my levels of personal authenticity. I hope you=20 > learned folks don't mind me picking your brains. Not at all, it keeps us on our toes. >=20 > My main question is, are there any allowances in Regia=20 > Anglorum for 11th C. Irish? Certainly they were around in Britain at = the time,=20 > and the Norse were heavily involved in Dublin, Waterford, Wexford, Limerick, and > elsewhere, but is there any place for us Gaels in the RA-NA = organization?=20 There'd better be, or one of the longest-established Regia groups is in = deep trouble ;) My own group is very much Hiberno-Norse - you can see the Mountains of Mourne from some of the Galloway Hills. The Irish Sea is very much our stamping ground. > If so, what would be the guidelines? I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if = you'd like. Gu=F0rum From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 17:33:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Boulton) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:33:29 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots images/Kim References: Message-ID: <002701c3ad31$005fffc0$13156751@duron800> > Pics 21 to 26 The guy with the Green sheild is my old mate Chris if I am not > mistaken. > Goose It is indeed little old me. See, bein' my size, looming is difficult, but I lurk well. Chris. From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 18:24:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (nathan) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:24:00 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: <1069069742.3fb8b5ae1f630@webmail.usask.ca> Message-ID: > Fact- There are only two raised conical nasal helmets of Western/Central > European origin: Olmutz and Wenceslaus. Olmutz is generally accepted > to be from around 1100. Ok a few thoughts The helmet from Lake Lednikie (Germany) is also a 1 piece conical helm (probaby C11th, heavily restored). Pointy like the olmutz but without the creased crest construction. [item #414 - pg 169/434 Arms and Armour of the Crusading Era 1050-1350 (western europe and the crusader states) D Nicolle] The kiev helm that tweddle mentions in [The Anglian Helmet from Coppergate, D Tweddle] (page 1132, fig 566) is also a 1 piece (no idea of the date) that follows the same parameters as the wenceslaus, in that it has a more domed profile (i.e. not as conical as the olmutz). Now given the fact that the immediateley preceeding [in the book] helm is not medieval and is from the same area this might be best discounted. > My theory: The Wenceslaus helmet is from around 1100. It never > belonged to St. > Wenceslaus. The Prague Cathedral presented it as a relic long after his death > to turn the church into a pilgrimage site (relics=pligrims=revenue & > prestige). The above being the case i still agree. 1 piece conical helms are unlikely to be in general use prior to 1100 and for regia's purposes they are best avoided. > My evidence? None :) Perhaps but Nicolle states "So-called Helmet of St Wenceslaus, Bohemia 10th-11th centuries", until the Prague Cathedral allows serious achedemic study of the artefact (metalurgical dating analysis would be nice) i'm not convinced either. I have seen no details about the associated mailshirt either, that might help in some way to guestimate the age (though completely unreliable). You got any? The rivet pattern would be particularly telling. Kram N. From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 18:49:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:49:33 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories Message-ID: The kiev helm that tweddle mentions in [The Anglian Helmet from = Coppergate, D Tweddle] (page 1132, fig 566) is also a 1 piece (no idea of the date) = that follows the same parameters as the wenceslaus, in that it has a more = domed profile (i.e. not as conical as the olmutz). Now given the fact that = the immediateley preceeding [in the book] helm is not medieval and is from = the same area this might be best discounted. --Nathan I am a little unclear of what you are saying above but unless there are = two helms of that name the Kiev helm is not a one piecer, its of spangen = construction. Also, its worth mentioning that another helm very similar to the Kiev = helm, the "Strong" helm, was just recently proven to be a WWII relic. I = would bet money that the Kiev helm has the same origins see more info on this here = http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/SCA/research/helms/StrongKiev.htm please disregard this if you already knew it and I misunderstood your = post. Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 18:52:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:52:00 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1069095120.3fb918d0cd3a5@webmail.usask.ca> Hi Nathan Thanks for the info about the Lednikie helmet. I don't own Crusading Era, but they have it in the library at school, I'll look it up tomorrow. Regarding the Kiev helmet, the pictures I've seen look like a spangenhelm. Furthermore, it's been recently dismissed (within the last year) as a WWII German helmet liner for a tank gunner or fighter pilot. An American SCA member owns an identical helm, and put out the call that he wanted to authenticate it. Someone pointed him to a number of identical WWII items. Pity; there are so few extant helmets from the era, the more the better. But the Kiev helmet (and identical Strong helmet in the US) are 20th century. Link here: http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/SCA/research/helms/StrongKiev.htm I'll look up that German helm tomorrow, thanks again! ~Wil Quoting nathan : > > Fact- There are only two raised conical nasal helmets of Western/Central > > European origin: Olmutz and Wenceslaus. Olmutz is generally accepted > > to be from around 1100. > > > Ok a few thoughts > > The helmet from Lake Lednikie (Germany) is also a 1 piece conical helm > (probaby > C11th, heavily restored). Pointy like the olmutz but without the creased > crest > construction. [item #414 - pg 169/434 Arms and Armour of the Crusading Era > 1050-1350 (western europe and the crusader states) D Nicolle] > > The kiev helm that tweddle mentions in [The Anglian Helmet from Coppergate, > D > Tweddle] (page 1132, fig 566) is also a 1 piece (no idea of the date) that > follows the same parameters as the wenceslaus, in that it has a more domed > profile (i.e. not as conical as the olmutz). Now given the fact that the > immediateley preceeding [in the book] helm is not medieval and is from the > same > area this might be best discounted. > > > > My theory: The Wenceslaus helmet is from around 1100. It never > > belonged to St. > > Wenceslaus. The Prague Cathedral presented it as a relic long after his > death > > to turn the church into a pilgrimage site (relics=pligrims=revenue & > > prestige). > > > The above being the case i still agree. 1 piece conical helms are unlikely > to > be in general use prior to 1100 and for regia's purposes they are best > avoided. > > > > My evidence? None :) > > > Perhaps but Nicolle states "So-called Helmet of St Wenceslaus, Bohemia > 10th-11th > centuries", until the Prague Cathedral allows serious achedemic study of > the > artefact (metalurgical dating analysis would be nice) i'm not convinced > either. > > I have seen no details about the associated mailshirt either, that might help > in > some way to guestimate the age (though completely unreliable). You got > any? > The rivet pattern would be particularly telling. > > Kram > N. > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 18:54:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:54:44 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1069095284.3fb91974de83a@webmail.usask.ca> Simultaneous email :) The funny thing is, I was discussing having Adam Berry at White Mountain Armoury make me a replica of that helmet about three months before the WWII thing was discovered. Man, would *I* have looked like a pinhead :) ~Wil Quoting "Schuster, Robert L." : > > > The kiev helm that tweddle mentions in [The Anglian Helmet from Coppergate, > D > Tweddle] (page 1132, fig 566) is also a 1 piece (no idea of the date) that > follows the same parameters as the wenceslaus, in that it has a more domed > profile (i.e. not as conical as the olmutz). Now given the fact that the > immediateley preceeding [in the book] helm is not medieval and is from the > same > area this might be best discounted. > > --Nathan > > I am a little unclear of what you are saying above but unless there are two > helms of that name the Kiev helm is not a one piecer, its of spangen > construction. > > Also, its worth mentioning that another helm very similar to the Kiev helm, > the "Strong" helm, was just recently proven to be a WWII relic. I would bet > money that the Kiev helm has the same origins > > see more info on this here > http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/SCA/research/helms/StrongKiev.htm > > please disregard this if you already knew it and I misunderstood your post. > > Halvgrimr > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 18:57:24 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:57:24 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories Message-ID: Man, would *I* have looked like a pinhead :) ~Wil --naw, you'd have been damn cool.....among WWII reenactors;) H From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 19:47:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:47:17 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Message-ID: On second thought, he does a cutting test on a cut of meat. It's on a stump about a foot off the ground if I recall. After a full-blooded swing with predictable results, he then lays a piece of butted mail over it and proceeds to whack that. No rivets, no gambeson, sot sure what it was supposed to prove. I'd pay to see a video of the test that Regia performed on some riveted mail... _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $26.95. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 21:44:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:44:13 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: Message-ID: <002a01c3ad53$f871bc40$6a167ad5@m1w9d8> Lots snipped.... please could I have a copy as well... thanks vara. > If so, what would be the guidelines? I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if you'd like. Guðrum _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 22:01:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:01:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions In-Reply-To: <002a01c3ad53$f871bc40$6a167ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031117220129.29148.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-699690246-1069106489=:28788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Waving from Leftpondia could i please have a copy too! kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: Lots snipped.... please could I have a copy as well... thanks vara. > If so, what would be the guidelines? I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if you'd like. 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Waving from Leftpondia   could i please have a copy too!
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Lots snipped....
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> If so, what would be the guidelines?

I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if you'd
like.

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-699690246-1069106489=:28788-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 22:13:27 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:13:27 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions Message-ID: <20031117221327.WFHD6808.tomts27-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.20]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1069107207384_bSf,fdMTaT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guthrum Would this early draft of the members handbook guidelines be for paid-up = members only as a benefit of .... membership ? = Cheers Martin = > From: Kathy > Date: 2003/11/17 Mon PM 05:01:29 EST > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > = > Waving from Leftpondia could i please have a copy too! > kathy > = > Hrolf Douglasson wrote: > Lots snipped.... > please could I have a copy as well... > thanks > vara. > = > = > > If so, what would be the guidelines? > = > I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if = you'd > like. > = > Gu=F0rum > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > = > = > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > = > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > = ------=____1069107207384_bSf,fdMTaT Content-Type: text/html; name="reply" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="reply"
Waving from Leftpondia   could i please have a copy too!
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Lots snipped....
please could I have a copy as well...
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> If so, what would be the guidelines?

I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if you'd
like.

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=____1069107207384_bSf,fdMTaT-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 17 22:59:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:59:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions In-Reply-To: <20031117220129.29148.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031117225933.98539.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Is the reason I never got a handbook because it's being revised?? Or is this the first one, and no one else has one, either. Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 00:28:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (nathan) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:28:55 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The helm i am talking about is not of the Strong type (the one in "the museum of the city of kiev") but a different form (with eyebrows and nasal). The text suggests it may be made from 4 overlapping plates but i can't see them in the piccy (mildly confusing as it's only a sentence worth in the text). The second helm is from the "national museum of the history of the ukrane, kiev". piccy at www.nathanspage.co.uk/piccys/kievhelm.jpg What i was trying to say was that given the issues highlighted by the 'Strong' helm we might be best taking the other helm from Kiev with a pinch of salt. > Also, its worth mentioning that another helm very similar to the Kiev > helm, the "Strong" helm, was just recently proven to be a WWII relic. > I would bet money that the Kiev helm has the same origins > > see more info on this here http://www.missouri.edu/~rls555/SCA/research/helms/StrongKiev.htm Sorry for any inclarity in my origional message. N. From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 00:50:48 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:50:48 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] New Armor making video Message-ID: <3FB96CE8.70903@bellsouth.net> I've been watching an excellent armoring video put out by Valentine Armories I just got in from http://www.renstore.com/ . Nearly two hours of simply watching him make various parts. Little talk at all. $28. I can see him getting a ton of armor orders off the video besides the profit from it. Well worth the investment. This is one of the biggest armoring firms by the way. Nothing power tool in it at all for the film, and it's nearly the quietest shop I've seen or been in. A great introductory film for new members or new armorers. Or maybe just for your group {And I've bought a bunch of SCA films over the years as well as some weapons reenactment films. One of the very worst was from Renstore.com too.) Valentine isn't making early armor in this, he's making sixteenth century, complete with the leather parts that line it and the helmet. It's called: Crafting Medieval Armour Product No: VAL-1001 Price: $27.95 from: USA and Canada toll-free number 1-800-730-5464 or FAX (800)-410-KING. Customers calling from outside of the USA or Canada call (520)-546-8223 or FAX (520)-546-8220. Chivalry Sports Inc. customerservice@renstore.com I am neither a previous customer of Valentine nor his shill but for the price I would say he gives people excellent value. If you prefer to buy direct: Valentine Armouries 4120 - 8 Street SE , Calgary, Alberta T2G 3A7 Canada [Order] Phone: 1-800-268-0064 Email: info(at)varmouries.com. ... http://www.varmouries.com/ He's also written the customer friendly priced book: The Art of Making Armour In this book The Art of Making Armour, author Rob Valentine revives the legacy of honor and value in handcrafted workmanship inspired by ancient artisans. Magnus, OL From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 03:52:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:52:06 -0600 Subject: Location and Deer Hides, was Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: Message-ID: <009001c3ad8e$d154c220$868a0d0c@house> I am located in the middle portion of the state of Tennessee, USA, the area referred to locally as the Upper Cumberland region. As for tanning a deer hide; well, to be honest, I have one in my freezer as well that I have been too lazy to get to yet. I have not actually ever tanned one myself but have been studying/asking questions and planning to prepare the hide I have over the next few months. Plus, this weekend is the opening of deer season locally, and I hope to have another hide, meat in the freezer, and antler and bone for other projects shortly if luck is with me. When I get around to it I will let you know how it turns out. Conall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horn, Trisha D." To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > Two questions, actually. Conall, from whence do you hail? And my second > query is, how difficult is tanning a deer hide. I have one in my deep freeze > and there it will stay until I am sure what I want to do with it. > > Curiously, > Raghnailt From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 04:28:26 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:28:26 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: Message-ID: <009701c3ad8e$d6daa340$868a0d0c@house> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" I'd pay to see a video of the test that Regia performed > on some riveted mail... > So would I! Conall From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 04:18:35 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:18:35 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: Message-ID: <009501c3ad8e$d4acc6c0$868a0d0c@house> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C3AD58.BE05BC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Nicholson, Andrew" >> My name is Conall (the rest is too=20 >> long and Gaeilge to inflict on you right now). =20 >Wanna bet? Ha! Okay, it's Conall Mac Duibdarach. Sorry, I'm used to dealing with = folks even more "Gaeilge-impaired" than I am. I'm nowhere near fluent = in Irish, but am still trying to learn. >I seem to recall that he may be ex-Regia, Dermot certainly is. GaG used = to be loosely affiliated with us - since we didn't have a presence in = Ireland.> Ah, I did not know that. Hopefully I'm started on the right track = then. >> My main question is, are there any allowances in Regia=20 >> Anglorum for 11th C. Irish? but is there any place for us = Gaels in the RA-NA organization?=20 >There'd better be, or one of the longest-established Regia groups is in = deep trouble ;) My own group is very much Hiberno-Norse - you can see the = Mountains of Mourne from some of the Galloway Hills. The Irish Sea is very much our stamping ground.> Excellent! >I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if = you'd like. Gu=F0rum > I would be absolutely overjoyed, and very grateful if you would send = that to me. Thanks so much, Conall ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C3AD58.BE05BC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.go= v.uk>
 
>> My name is Conall (the rest is too
>> long and = Gaeilge=20 to inflict on you right now). 

>Wanna bet?
 
Ha!  Okay, it's Conall Mac Duibdarach.  Sorry, I'm used = to=20 dealing with folks even more "Gaeilge-impaired" than I = am.  I'm=20 nowhere near fluent in Irish, but am still trying to learn.

>I = seem to=20 recall that he may be ex-Regia, Dermot certainly is. GaG used to
be = loosely=20 affiliated with us - since we didn't have a presence in = Ireland.>
 
    Ah, I did = not know=20 that.  Hopefully I'm started on the right track=20 then.

>>     My main question is, are = there any=20 allowances in Regia
>> Anglorum for 11th C. Irish? =20 <snip>but is there any place for us Gaels in the RA-NA = organization?=20

>There'd better be, or one of the longest-established Regia = groups is=20 in deep
trouble ;)  My own group is very much Hiberno-Norse - = you can=20 see the Mountains of
Mourne from some of the Galloway Hills. The = Irish Sea is=20 very much our
stamping ground.>
 
   =20 Excellent!

>I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on = Irish Dress=20 if you'd
like.
 
Gu=F0rum
>
 
    I would be = absolutely=20 overjoyed, and very grateful if you would send that to me.
 
    Thanks so=20 much,
 
    Conall

 
 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C3AD58.BE05BC00-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 04:05:52 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:05:52 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: <3FB8291D.8000005@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <009101c3ad8e$d266f570$868a0d0c@house> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C3AD56.F754FA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "rmhowe" > I simply called and reordered and the next one came without > the dip across the blade. It was a Del Tin product, the > Catalonian sword, which they still produce on and off. But > at that time it was hard to find a decent swordmaker who > made halfway decent swords as opposed to now when there is > real competition in the marketplace. Shortly thereafter > the price nearly doubled on them so it wasn't a bad buy. I used to really admire the Del Tin swords that MR used to offer, = but back then I was in no financial position to buy any of them. > I've also learned that a lot of the stuff MR sells these > days is from companies Hank used to criticize rather highly > in the days before he began taking marching orders from > Windlass Steelcrafts in India who bought MR and AC out. I have owned three MR weapons, and have been overall pretty = disappointed in the quality. Let's just say that I certainly wouldn't = want my life depending on them. > So it's worth cross checking a few sources as you can save > serious bucks buying the same thing from competitors who can > price it much less. Many thanks to all of you for the information and opinions. Conall ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C3AD56.F754FA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
----- Original Message -----
From: "rmhowe" <MMagnusM@bellsouth.net>
 
> I simply called and reordered and the next one came = without
>=20 the dip across the blade.  It was a Del Tin product, the
> = Catalonian=20 sword, which they still produce on and off. But
> at that time it = was hard=20 to find a decent swordmaker who
> made halfway decent swords as = opposed to=20 now when there is
> real competition in the marketplace. Shortly=20 thereafter
> the price nearly doubled on them so it wasn't a bad=20 buy.
 
    I used to really admire the Del Tin swords that = MR used=20 to offer, but back then I was in no financial position to buy any of = them.

> I've also learned that a lot of the stuff MR sells = these
>=20 days is from companies Hank used to criticize rather highly
> in = the days=20 before he began taking marching orders from
> Windlass Steelcrafts = in=20 India who bought MR and AC out.
 
    I have owned three MR weapons, and have been = overall=20 pretty disappointed in the quality.  Let's just say that I = certainly=20 wouldn't want my life depending on them.

> So it's worth cross checking a few sources as you can = save
>=20 serious bucks buying the same thing from competitors who can
> = price it=20 much less.
 
    Many thanks to all of you for the information = and=20 opinions.
 
    Conall
------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C3AD56.F754FA40-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 05:20:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:20:05 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: <20031117225933.98539.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002201c3ad93$a0a0db00$7900a8c0@field> Hi Jan You are correct - the current Regia members handbook is being extensively revised section by section. However, I can send you a handbook that is used by the Northern wic - only problem is that it was supposed to be compressed by one of our N.A. members so it could be sent without overloading people's mailboxes !! Haven't heard regards the progress of this - I'll try and find out . Cheers Martin All the best Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Ward" To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > Is the reason I never got a handbook because it's > being revised?? Or is this the first one, and no one > else has one, either. > Edwinna > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 07:44:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:44:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions In-Reply-To: <002201c3ad93$a0a0db00$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> What about just sending me the sections that deal with kit--clothing, seating, eating, cooking and camping gear. I'm too old to take up fighting, anyway. I've downloaded instructions for making a geteld. I'm dithering about whether to move over across the border into the Danelaw, anyway, since there are lots more Vikings to play with here than Anglo-Saxons. Means I'll have to buy more new books, too. Oh, and is there something like a name list, so I can choose a new moniker, since "Edwinna" seems to be OOP? I just got a new set of sample sheets from Robin and Russ, and they have a fine bleached linen singles yarn. I ordered a couple of large cones, 5-6 pounds, so I can weave my shift, coif, and veil. Do Anglo Saxon women wear winingas? What about Viking women? Socks? Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 07:58:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:58:14 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] SOT - New Horatio Hornblower movies./ Master and Commander / LOTR: ROTK/ Timeline / Last Samurai Message-ID: <3FB9D116.60802@bellsouth.net> While some of us are medievalists through and through we still appreciate period pieces, particularly the swashbuckling variety, so: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Horation Hornblower will have two new movies in the series, these would be 7 & 8, on Dec. 2nd & 3rd. at 8 pm e.s.t./7 p.m central time on the Arts and Entertainment Channel. There was a nice picture book published on the earlier series shoot of several years ago. [It's not as charmingly warm as the Gregory Peck version but there is more of it. Peck was great as a seafaring boat captain in The World in His Arms as well.] xxxxxxxxxxxxx These films were shot in the same tank and area they just filmed the new Master and Commander in that Russell Crowe is currently playing in in the movie theaters. One hundred days in the tank, with the capabilities to tilt the ship in it and throw water in large amounts from different angles, and ten filming on the sea itself. Crowe is not bad at all, but is the least authoritative figure I have seen depicted as a ship's captain in any British Navy 18th-19th C. movie. Chummy rather than hard. Not depressingly Bounty movie style at all. The film score isn't at all bad either. They took pains to be accurate. Note the obvious resemblance drawn rather exactly between one tow-headed mid-shipman and Horatio Nelson. The ship's surgeon Paul Bettany played Chaucer in the Knight's Tale. It is hard to eclipse that performance but the chello/violin duets are good as is his surgery and science interests. My wife read in the newspaper that if it does well there will be further movies in the series. Notice that I am not giving anything away for your enjoyment. You've probably already seen him standing on the cat's head that holds the tied up anchor while sailing with all sails set in the previews. Pictures: http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0311113 On the movie poster you may note that they are sailing in heavy seas with all gunports open. Rather fantastic with cannons firing - at what? http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0311113/masterposter.jpg Well, that little caper took down both the English Mary Rose and the Swedish Vasa in much milder seas. http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0311113/MC-FF-10.jpg It doesn't appear in the film, although they do some heavy seas sailing - somewhat less than the viking longship surfing heavier seas in the Thirteenth Warrior which was a truly unforgettable image to see. [I keep meaning to re-view that movie. Maybe after midnight.] The waves were close to those depicted in the Perfect Storm. Having seen a modern recreation of a Viking ship sink in about five seconds in the middle of a fjord when a cross-wind hit it on television I am amazed that they got as far as they did in medieval [and modern] times. Lots of heads and chests were bobbing about in very cold water. It would likely be amazing to see just what is on the bottom of those fjords one day. I wonder why it hasn't been explored further. Wood that far north doesn't decay much down there, nor are there woodworms as in warmer waters. Maybe Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute hasn't considered it yet. Boy would that be fun to watch. They did find an early ship in the Black Sea standing erect with it's mast up in the silt. Two of three viking replicas sank rounding Spain for the Mediterranean a few years back. And the Iceland to Greenland group had a sizable number missing way back when of the twenty-five ship fleet. There is a Making of Master and Commander book currently out and it is full of photos. Tom McGregor is the author. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx BTW the movie picture books are out already for the LOTR: Return of the King. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/ One is on the weapons and armor this time all by itself: The Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare by Richard Taylor and Chris Smith (Author) Amazon has some of them at a 40% discount. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0618390995/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/103-9608269-1767826 Viewing them early can give you a preview of sorts of the movie, so you might want to order them and open the box -after- the movie has been seen. The detail in the whole series of them is remarkable. I particularly liked the Rohan culture depictions. The movie begins on December 17 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Timeline starts on the November 22nd. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0300556/ There is a revealing [but not too much] summary under more by anonymous. I'm hardly anonymous. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise begins Dec. 5. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0325710/ I don't recall any Yankee officer being in that rebellion, as there was a very real Englishman mirrored in Shogun but it makes good theater. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Anyway, enjoy. It's a great fall for movies. We are so damned lucky to be living in a time when spectacular films can be made. Magnus, OL, Great Barony of Windmasters' Hill [SCA], Regia.org, Manx, GDH brother. © R.M. Howe 2003 Please do not repost to Usenet newsgroups. Your local reenactor elist is fine. From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 13:55:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hazel Uzzell) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:55:06 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Hi Jan, I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is sorely in need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch or so thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has been sent to a few people. The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new revised version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is meant for new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no real info on kit production etc. We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of that. A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the revision. Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was doing the Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson and, I believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and Viking sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through the Saxon section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members mentioned earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my co-ordinating task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the original Handbook still in existance? Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a small print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across 'the pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical reasons, so has anyone else a solution? Hazel From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 14:29:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:29:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions In-Reply-To: <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: <20031118142908.18751.qmail@web25006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1509070842-1069165748=:18164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How about scanning the whole thing into a pc & then storing the pages on a site somewhere,publish the address & everyone who would like to look would be able to? As long as it's understood that there are certain points which need looking at for correction & the origional authors don't mind coz once it's out,it's out on the web for good. Regards, Mik Hazel Uzzell wrote: has anyone else a solution? Hazel Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1509070842-1069165748=:18164 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
How about scanning the whole thing into a pc & then storing the pages on a site somewhere,publish the address & everyone who would like to look would be able to? As long as it's understood that there are certain points which need looking at for correction & the origional authors don't mind coz once it's out,it's out on the web for good.
Regards,
Mik

Hazel Uzzell <gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
has anyone else a solution?
Hazel



Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1509070842-1069165748=:18164-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 14:50:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:50:17 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Handbook Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADE3.485705F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Possible. Of course, we'll run into the issue that Ben Levick added = himself to the copyright of every article - even if he didn't write it. There = are also issues with the copyright to the illustrations. Of course, as an ex-member, he might not be allowed an opinion, if the copyright has = been vested in Regia itself. =20 I still have my handwritten drafts, which would sort out any copyright issues on the Viking stuff. =20 Gu=F0rum =20 PS. Kathy - you already have the illustrative core of the Irish draft.=20 -----Original Message----- From: mik lawson [mailto:miklawson@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 18 November 2003 14:29 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions How about scanning the whole thing into a pc & then storing the pages = on a site somewhere,publish the address & everyone who would like to look = would be able to? As long as it's understood that there are certain points = which need looking at for correction & the origional authors don't mind coz = once it's out,it's out on the web for good. Regards, Mik Hazel Uzzell wrote: has anyone else a solution? Hazel Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over _____ =20 Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADE3.485705F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Possible. Of course, we'll run into the issue that Ben Levick = added=20 himself to the copyright of every article - even if he didn't write it. = There=20 are also issues with the copyright to the illustrations. Of course, as = an=20 ex-member, he might not be allowed an opinion, if the copyright has = been vested=20 in Regia itself.
 
I=20 still have my handwritten drafts, which would sort out any copyright = issues on=20 the Viking stuff.
 
Gu=F0rum
 
PS.=20 Kathy - you already have the illustrative core of the Irish draft.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: mik lawson=20 [mailto:miklawson@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 18 November 2003=20 14:29
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: = [Regia-NA]=20 Introduction and Questions

How about scanning the whole thing into a pc & then storing = the pages=20 on a site somewhere,publish the address & everyone who would like = to look=20 would be able to? As long as it's understood that there are certain = points=20 which need looking at for correction & the origional authors = don't mind=20 coz once it's out,it's out on the web for good.
Regards,
Mik

Hazel Uzzell = <gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk>=20 wrote:
has=20 anyone else a solution?
Hazel



Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over

Want to chat instantly with your online=20 friends? Get=20 the FREE Yahoo! Messenger ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADE3.485705F0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:02:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:02:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] films In-Reply-To: <3FB9D116.60802@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <20031118150247.28710.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-172768319-1069167767=:27723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I plan on going to see the Russell Crowe movie as soon as it is showing here in Vancouver area so i am pleased to hear the good reviews.. Not that it has been panned by Ebert and Roeper.. As a point of interest i am an avid fan of so-called "period" movies.. the earlier the better.. Braveheart, Rob Roy, Druids, 13th Warrior are a few that float to the top of my memory at the moment OH yes, Jane Grey and Elizabeth To be perfectly honest, i spend as much time looking at the costumes as i do following the plot.. I know the accuracy is way off the mark in some cases.. but it is fun to watch anyway.. Which reminds me.. has any one read Michel Crochton's latest book Timeline? Ihave read parts of it.. (Bjorn likes me to read to him/her) and we are looking fwd to seeing the movie.. There are some wonderful tourney/battle scenes .. i have seen one or two clips on tv that look quite good.. Bit late for us, as far as period goes, but hey,who says we cannot time travel ourselves? Kathy rmhowe wrote: While some of us are medievalists through and through we still appreciate period pieces, particularly the swashbuckling variety, so: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Horation Hornblower will have two new movies in the series, these would be 7 & 8, on Dec. 2nd & 3rd. at 8 pm e.s.t./7 p.m central time on the Arts and Entertainment Channel. There was a nice picture book published on the earlier series shoot of several years ago. [It's not as charmingly warm as the Gregory Peck version but there is more of it. Peck was great as a seafaring boat captain in The World in His Arms as well.] xxxxxxxxxxxxx These films were shot in the same tank and area they just filmed the new Master and Commander in that Russell Crowe is currently playing in in the movie theaters. One hundred days in the tank, with the capabilities to tilt the ship in it and throw water in large amounts from different angles, and ten filming on the sea itself. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-172768319-1069167767=:27723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I plan on going to see the Russell Crowe movie  as soon as it is showing here in Vancouver area   so i am pleased to hear the good reviews.. Not that it has been panned by  Ebert and Roeper..  
As a point of interest  i am an avid  fan of so-called "period" movies.. the earlier the better.. Braveheart,  Rob Roy, Druids, 13th Warrior  are a few that float to the top of my memory at the moment  OH yes,  Jane Grey and  Elizabeth     To be perfectly honest, i spend as much time  looking at the costumes as i do following the plot..
I know the accuracy is way off the mark in some cases..  but it is fun to watch anyway..
Which reminds me.. has any one read Michel Crochton's latest book  Timeline?  Ihave read parts of it.. (Bjorn likes me to read to him/her)    and we are looking fwd to seeing the movie..  There are some wonderful tourney/battle scenes  ..  i have seen one or two clips on tv   that  look quite good.. Bit late for us, as far as period goes, but hey,who says we cannot time travel ourselves?
 
Kathy

rmhowe <MMagnusM@bellsouth.net> wrote:
While some of us are medievalists through and through
we still appreciate period pieces, particularly
the swashbuckling variety, so:

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Horation Hornblower will have two new movies in
the series, these would be 7 & 8, on Dec. 2nd & 3rd.
at 8 pm e.s.t./7 p.m central time on the
Arts and Entertainment Channel.
There was a nice picture book published on the earlier
series shoot of several years ago.

[It's not as charmingly warm as the Gregory Peck
version but there is more of it. Peck was great as a
seafaring boat captain in The World in His Arms as well.]
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
These films were shot in the same tank and area they just
filmed the new Master and Commander in that Russell
Crowe is currently playing in in the movie theaters.
One hundred days in the tank, with the capabilities to
tilt the ship in it and throw water in large amounts
from different angles, and ten filming on the sea itself.

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-172768319-1069167767=:27723-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:07:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:07:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions/jan In-Reply-To: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031118150758.29886.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1849018392-1069168078=:29174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Jan.. sounds like we could almost make up a sub-list just to discuss garb! i think Gudrum is a bit of an expert on the subject and he has sent me some great pictures of early garb I am still learning the ropes myself kathy Jan Ward wrote: What about just sending me the sections that deal with kit--clothing, seating, eating, cooking and camping gear. I'm too old to take up fighting, anyway. I've downloaded instructions for making a geteld. I'm dithering about whether to move over across the border into the Danelaw, anyway, since there are lots more Vikings to play with here than Anglo-Saxons. Means I'll have to buy more new books, too. Oh, and is there something like a name list, so I can choose a new moniker, since "Edwinna" seems to be OOP? I just got a new set of sample sheets from Robin and Russ, and they have a fine bleached linen singles yarn. I ordered a couple of large cones, 5-6 pounds, so I can weave my shift, coif, and veil. Do Anglo Saxon women wear winingas? What about Viking women? Socks? Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1849018392-1069168078=:29174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Jan..  sounds like we could almost make up a sub-list just to discuss garb!   i think Gudrum is a bit of an expert on the subject   and he has sent me some great pictures of early garb
I am still learning the ropes myself
kathy

Jan Ward <hawksbluff@yahoo.com> wrote:
What about just sending me the sections that deal with
kit--clothing, seating, eating, cooking and camping
gear. I'm too old to take up fighting, anyway.
I've downloaded instructions for making a geteld. I'm
dithering about whether to move over across the border
into the Danelaw, anyway, since there are lots more
Vikings to play with here than Anglo-Saxons. Means
I'll have to buy more new books, too.
Oh, and is there something like a name list, so I can
choose a new moniker, since "Edwinna" seems to be OOP?
I just got a new set of sample sheets from Robin and
Russ, and they have a fine bleached linen singles
yarn. I ordered a couple of large cones, 5-6 pounds,
so I can weave my shift, coif, and veil.
Do Anglo Saxon women wear winingas? What about Viking
women? Socks?
Edwinna


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Tolkien -----Original Message----- From: Jan Ward [mailto:hawksbluff@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 7:45 AM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions What about just sending me the sections that deal with kit--clothing, seating, eating, cooking and camping gear. I'm too old to take up fighting, anyway. I've downloaded instructions for making a geteld. I'm dithering about whether to move over across the border into the Danelaw, anyway, since there are lots more Vikings to play with here than Anglo-Saxons. Means I'll have to buy more new books, too.=20 Oh, and is there something like a name list, so I can choose a new moniker, since "Edwinna" seems to be OOP? I just got a new set of sample sheets from Robin and Russ, and they have a fine bleached linen singles yarn. I ordered a couple of large cones, 5-6 pounds, so I can weave my shift, coif, and veil.=20 Do Anglo Saxon women wear winingas? What about Viking women? Socks? Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:17:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:17:07 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook that aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States it might be easier for me to do it than for others. I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some of Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think it makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially out of date. I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I imagine the per-copy cost would be low. Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook that we could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is prohibitive. Just a thought. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > Hi Jan, > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is sorely in > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch or so > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has been sent > to a few people. > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new revised > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is meant for > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no real info > on kit production etc. > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of that. > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > revision. > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was doing the > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson and, I > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and Viking > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through the Saxon > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members mentioned > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my co-ordinating > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the original > Handbook still in existance? > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a small > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across 'the > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical reasons, so > has anyone else a solution? > Hazel > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:23:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:23:16 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] FW: [RegiaNA] Unofficial World of the Norse Message-ID: Darrell has said that since the Crandrook Institute has not set up its own website for the exhibition, I can forward this to the lists. 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Included is the 'virtual tour', with notes on the objects included, plus some educational related links. Right now this URL is not registered or linked * in * from the outside world. The Cranbrook Institute may provide official site hosting for the content - but if they don't I will link up this site on my own. Darrell ---------------------- Darrell Markewitz Interpretive Program Designer the Wareham Forge RR # 2, Proton Station, Ont. - Canada - N0C 1L0 phone/fax 519-923-9219 museums@warehamforge.ca Information on the 'Norse Encampment' series of programs can be found at: http://www.warehamforge.ca/encamp.html ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. 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Oh goodie..  clapping hands in delight.. more links to add to my already humungous collection..
thanks Guthrum
Kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
Darrell has said that since the Crandrook Institute has not set up its own
website for the exhibition, I can forward this to the lists.

Guthrum
[for those who keep thinking it's spelt differently]



From: Darrell Markewitz [mailto:wareham@golden.net]
Subject: [The Manx] Unofficial World of the Norse

http://home.golden.net/~wareham/worldnorse

This is the full 'unofficial' web site documenting World of the Norse.
Included is the 'virtual tour', with notes on the objects included, plus
some educational related links. Right now this URL is not registered or
linked * in * from the outside world. The Cranbrook Institute may provide
official site hosting for the content - but if they don't I will link up
this site on my own.

Darrell

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Darrell Markewitz
Interpretive Program Designer

the Wareham Forge
RR # 2, Proton Station, Ont. - Canada - N0C 1L0
phone/fax 519-923-9219
museums@warehamforge.ca

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-834600821-1069169446=:58421-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:39:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:39:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Handbook/Gudrun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118153907.70694.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2018420696-1069169947=:68971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. and yes i do have the illustrated Irish section.. and very good it is too.. kathy "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: Possible. Of course, we'll run into the issue that Ben Levick added himself to the copyright of every article - even if he didn't write it. There are also issues with the copyright to the illustrations. Of course, as an ex-member, he might not be allowed an opinion, if the copyright has been vested in Regia itself. I still have my handwritten drafts, which would sort out any copyright issues on the Viking stuff. Guðrum PS. Kathy - you already have the illustrative core of the Irish draft. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2018420696-1069169947=:68971 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. and yes i do have the illustrated Irish section.. and very good it is too..
kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk> wrote:
Possible. Of course, we'll run into the issue that Ben Levick added himself to the copyright of every article - even if he didn't write it. There are also issues with the copyright to the illustrations. Of course, as an ex-member, he might not be allowed an opinion, if the copyright has been vested in Regia itself.
 
I still have my handwritten drafts, which would sort out any copyright issues on the Viking stuff.
 
Guðrum
 
PS. Kathy - you already have the illustrative core of the Irish draft.
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2018420696-1069169947=:68971-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:46:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:46:39 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gudrum_vs=2E_Gu=F0rum?= Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADEB.27A02813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. =20 =20 ---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in = Gu=F0rum name is the rune edth (=D0 or =F0) and is the unvoiced "th" = sound of "this"=20 =20 Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards. =20 With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the =F0 = rune. =20 Some other useful runes/special characters are: =20 ALT+0193 =3D =C1=20 ALT+0225 =3D =E1=20 =20 ALT+0196 =3D =C4=20 ALT+0228 =3D =E4=20 =20 ALT+0197 =3D =C5=20 ALT+0229 =3D =E5=20 =20 ALT+0198 =3D =C6=20 ALT+0230 =3D =E6=20 =20 ALT+0201 =3D =C9=20 =20 =20 ALT+0203 =3D =CB=20 ALT+0235 =3D =EB=20 =20 ALT+0205 =3D =CD=20 ALT+0237 =3D =ED=20 =20 ALT+0211 =3D =D3=20 ALT+0243 =3D =F3=20 =20 ALT+0214 =3D =D6=20 ALT+0246 =3D =F6=20 =20 ALT+0216 =3D =D8=20 ALT+0248 =3D =F8 =20 =20 ALT+0218 =3D =DA=20 ALT+0250 =3D =FA=20 =20 ALT+0220 =3D =DC=20 ALT+0252 =3D =FC=20 =20 ALT+0221 =3D =DD=20 ALT+0253 =3D =FD=20 =20 ALT+0208 =3D =D0=20 ALT+0240 =3D =F0 =20 =20 ALT+0222 =3D =DE=20 ALT+0254 =3D =FE =20 =20 ALT+0223 =3D =DF ( =DF is a letter you find in modern German, and = represents a double S as I recall )=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADEB.27A02813 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy..  
 
---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like = symbol=20 in Gu=F0rum name is the rune=20 edth (=D0 or =F0)  and is the unvoiced "th" sound of=20 "this" 
 
Most folks = can use these=20 runes via their keyboards.
 
With the NUM = Lock on=20 hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the =F0 = rune.
 
Some other = useful=20 runes/special characters are:
 

 

  ALT+0193 =3D =C1 =

  ALT+0225 =3D =E1 =

 

  ALT+0196 =3D =C4 =

  ALT+0228 =3D =E4 =

 

  ALT+0197 =3D =C5 =

  ALT+0229 =3D =E5 =

 

  ALT+0198 =3D =C6 =

  ALT+0230 =3D =E6 =

 

  ALT+0201 =3D =C9 =

 

 

  ALT+0203 =3D =CB =

  ALT+0235 =3D =EB =

 

  ALT+0205 =3D =CD =

  ALT+0237 =3D =ED =

 

  ALT+0211 =3D =D3 =

  ALT+0243 =3D =F3 =

 

  ALT+0214 =3D =D6 =

  ALT+0246 =3D =F6 =

 

  ALT+0216 =3D =D8 =

  ALT+0248 =3D =F8  

 

  ALT+0218 =3D =DA =

  ALT+0250 =3D =FA =

 

  ALT+0220 =3D =DC =

  ALT+0252 =3D =FC =

 

  ALT+0221 =3D =DD =

  ALT+0253 =3D =FD =

 

  ALT+0208 =3D =D0 =

  ALT+0240 =3D =F0  

 

  ALT+0222 =3D =DE =

  ALT+0254 =3D =FE  

 

  ALT+0223 =3D =DF  =20 (  =DF is a letter you find in = modern=20 German, and represents a   double=20 S as I recall ) 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADEB.27A02813-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:52:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:52:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum_vs._Guðrum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118155220.68111.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-606712267-1069170740=:66120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!! kathy "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. ---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in Guðrum name is the rune edth (Ð or ð) and is the unvoiced "th" sound of "this" Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards. With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the ð rune. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-606712267-1069170740=:66120 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!
kathy

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Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy..  
 
---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in Guðrum name is the rune edth (Ð or ð)  and is the unvoiced "th" sound of "this" 
 
Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards.
 
With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the ð rune.
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-606712267-1069170740=:66120-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 15:56:35 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:56:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum_vs._Guðrum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118155635.70316.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-571852422-1069170995=:66859 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. kathy "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. ---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in Guðrum name is the rune edth (Ð or ð) and is the unvoiced "th" sound of "this" Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards. With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the ð rune. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-571852422-1069170995=:66859 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. 
kathy

"Schuster, Robert L." <SchusterRL@umsystem.edu> wrote:
Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy..  
 
---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in Guðrum name is the rune edth (Ð or ð)  and is the unvoiced "th" sound of "this" 
 
Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards.
 
With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the ð rune.
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-571852422-1069170995=:66859-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 16:00:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:00:36 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Gudrum=5Fvs=2E=5FGu=F0rum?= Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADED.1AB65B97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On = Behalf Of Kathy Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:57 AM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Gudrum_vs._Gu=F0rum Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. =20 kathy=20 =20 --huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't work on but I = hear they are out there, looks like you found one;) =20 sorry=20 =20 H ps, you are holding the ALT key down WHILE you type the number, correct? =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADED.1AB65B97 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = list-regia-na-admin@lig.net=20 [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of = Kathy
Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:57 AM
To:=20 list-regia-na@lig.net
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Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. 
kathy 
  
--huh,=20 I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't work on but I hear they = are out=20 there, looks like you found one;)
 
sorry=20
 
H
ps,=20 you are holding the ALT key down WHILE you type the number,=20 correct?
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADED.1AB65B97-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 16:27:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:27:00 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] FW: New Viking Ships Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Thor Ewing [mailto:4viking@ONETEL.NET.UK] Sent: 18 November 2003 16:12 To: ONN@morgan.ucs.mun.ca Subject: New Viking Ships A new Viking burial mound including ship has come to light at Toensberg: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=652358 Then there's another one from Halvdanshaugen: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article.jhtml?articleID=623005 There's also a rumour of a new ship from Oseberg - the Oseberg king? Best, Thor From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 16:48:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:48:39 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] New Viking Ships Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADF3.D1509BE1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From another list:=20 A new Viking burial mound including ship has come to light at Toensberg: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=3D652358 Then there's another one from Halvdanshaugen: http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article.jhtml?articleID=3D623005 There's also a rumour of a new ship from Oseberg - the Oseberg king? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADF3.D1509BE1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  From another list: 


A new = Viking=20 burial mound including ship has come to light at Toensberg:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=3D= 652358

Then=20 there's another one from Halvdanshaugen:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article.jhtml?articleID=3D= 623005

There's=20 also a rumour of a new ship from Oseberg - the Oseberg=20 king?

 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3ADF3.D1509BE1-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 16:49:23 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Green Shield) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:49:23 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum vs. Guðrum Message-ID: Cool Rob, thanks for the keyboard tricks! I've been trying to figure those out for awhile now. C >From: "Schuster, Robert L." >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: >Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum vs. Guðrum >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:46:39 -0600 > >Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. > >---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in Guðrum >name is the rune edth (Ð or ð) and is the unvoiced "th" sound of "this" > >Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards. > >With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the ð >rune. > >Some other useful runes/special characters are: > > "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > ALT+0193 = Á > > ALT+0225 = á > > > > ALT+0196 = Ä > > ALT+0228 = ä > > > > ALT+0197 = Å > > ALT+0229 = å > > > > ALT+0198 = Æ > > ALT+0230 = æ > > > > ALT+0201 = É > > > > > > ALT+0203 = Ë > > ALT+0235 = ë > > > > ALT+0205 = Í > > ALT+0237 = í > > > > ALT+0211 = Ó > > ALT+0243 = ó > > > > ALT+0214 = Ö > > ALT+0246 = ö > > > > ALT+0216 = Ø > > ALT+0248 = ø > > > > ALT+0218 = Ú > > ALT+0250 = ú > > > > ALT+0220 = Ü > > ALT+0252 = ü > > > > ALT+0221 = Ý > > ALT+0253 = ý > > > > ALT+0208 = Ð > > ALT+0240 = ð > > > > ALT+0222 = Þ > > ALT+0254 = þ > > > > ALT+0223 = ß ( ß is a letter you find in modern German, and >represents a double S as I recall ) > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search... http://shopping.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 17:01:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: <000401c3adf5$a463c2e0$7900a8c0@field> Hi Charotte If it is the Northern wic handbook you are referring to thats very kind of you to offer up your time do photocopy this but perhaps that is something I can do now. I had expectations that someone who had offered to do this was going to come through but they are not even replying to emails. I think, as an alternative to the electronic means of delivering this handbook, I'll do the photo copying and have copies here I can distribute along with new members material. Cheers Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook that > aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States it > might be easier for me to do it than for others. > > I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some of > Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. > > If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think it > makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially out of > date. > > I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I imagine > the per-copy cost would be low. > > Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook that we > could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is > prohibitive. Just a thought. > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > Hi Jan, > > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is sorely in > > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch or so > > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has been > sent > > to a few people. > > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new revised > > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is meant for > > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no real info > > on kit production etc. > > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of that. > > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > > revision. > > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was doing the > > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson and, I > > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and Viking > > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through the > Saxon > > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members > mentioned > > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my > co-ordinating > > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the > original > > Handbook still in existance? > > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a small > > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across 'the > > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical reasons, > so > > has anyone else a solution? > > Hazel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 16:59:51 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:59:51 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Gudrum_vs=2E_Gu=F0rum?= Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4926@MAILSERVER-UK> Hi there is another route to find them. Going via the 'start' symbol in the bottom left of your screen, go to Programs, Acessories, Character Map and there are a whole raft of = useful characters =E6 =C6 =D0 =F0 =C5 =E5 =DE =FE etc etc. Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien -----Original Message----- From: Green Shield [mailto:greenshield@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 4:49 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Gudrum vs. Gu=F0rum Cool Rob, thanks for the keyboard tricks! I've been trying to figure = those=20 out for awhile now. C >From: "Schuster, Robert L." >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: >Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum vs. Gu=F0rum >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:46:39 -0600 > >Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. > >---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in = Gu=F0rum=20 >name is the rune edth (=D0 or =F0) and is the unvoiced "th" sound of = "this" > >Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards. > >With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the = =F0=20 >rune. > >Some other useful runes/special characters are: > > "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> > > ALT+0193 =3D =C1 > > ALT+0225 =3D =E1 > > > > ALT+0196 =3D =C4 > > ALT+0228 =3D =E4 > > > > ALT+0197 =3D =C5 > > ALT+0229 =3D =E5 > > > > ALT+0198 =3D =C6 > > ALT+0230 =3D =E6 > > > > ALT+0201 =3D =C9 > > > > > > ALT+0203 =3D =CB > > ALT+0235 =3D =EB > > > > ALT+0205 =3D =CD > > ALT+0237 =3D =ED > > > > ALT+0211 =3D =D3 > > ALT+0243 =3D =F3 > > > > ALT+0214 =3D =D6 > > ALT+0246 =3D =F6 > > > > ALT+0216 =3D =D8 > > ALT+0248 =3D =F8 > > > > ALT+0218 =3D =DA > > ALT+0250 =3D =FA > > > > ALT+0220 =3D =DC > > ALT+0252 =3D =FC > > > > ALT+0221 =3D =DD > > ALT+0253 =3D =FD > > > > ALT+0208 =3D =D0 > > ALT+0240 =3D =F0 > > > > ALT+0222 =3D =DE > > ALT+0254 =3D =FE > > > > ALT+0223 =3D =DF ( =DF is a letter you find in modern German, = and=20 >represents a double S as I recall ) > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Shopping upgraded for the holidays! Snappier product search...=20 http://shopping.msn.com _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 17:04:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:04:11 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Gudrum_vs._Gu=F0rum?= References: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C3ADCC.13C77C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh yippee! Thanks! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: TQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZU To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum vs. Gu=F0rum Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy.. =20 ---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' like symbol in = Gu=F0rum name is the rune edth (=D0 or =F0) and is the unvoiced "th" = sound of "this"=20 Most folks can use these runes via their keyboards. With the NUM Lock on hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the = =F0 rune. Some other useful runes/special characters are: =20 ALT+0193 =3D =C1=20 ALT+0225 =3D =E1=20 =20 ALT+0196 =3D =C4=20 ALT+0228 =3D =E4=20 =20 ALT+0197 =3D =C5=20 ALT+0229 =3D =E5=20 =20 ALT+0198 =3D =C6=20 ALT+0230 =3D =E6=20 =20 ALT+0201 =3D =C9=20 =20 ALT+0203 =3D =CB=20 ALT+0235 =3D =EB=20 =20 ALT+0205 =3D =CD=20 ALT+0237 =3D =ED=20 =20 ALT+0211 =3D =D3=20 ALT+0243 =3D =F3=20 =20 ALT+0214 =3D =D6=20 ALT+0246 =3D =F6=20 =20 ALT+0216 =3D =D8=20 ALT+0248 =3D =F8 =20 =20 ALT+0218 =3D =DA=20 ALT+0250 =3D =FA=20 =20 ALT+0220 =3D =DC=20 ALT+0252 =3D =FC=20 =20 ALT+0221 =3D =DD=20 ALT+0253 =3D =FD=20 =20 ALT+0208 =3D =D0=20 ALT+0240 =3D =F0 =20 =20 ALT+0222 =3D =DE=20 ALT+0254 =3D =FE =20 =20 ALT+0223 =3D =DF ( =DF is a letter you find in modern German, and = represents a double S as I recall )=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C3ADCC.13C77C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
oh yippee!  = Thanks!
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Schuster, Robert L.
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, = 2003 10:46=20 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] Gudrum vs.=20 Gu=F0rum

Never quite sure how to spell your name, Andy..  
 
---some know this but as a refresher, the little 'd' = like symbol=20 in Gu=F0rum name is the rune=20 edth (=D0 or =F0)  and is the unvoiced "th" sound of=20 "this" 
 
Most folks = can use=20 these runes via their keyboards.
 
With the = NUM Lock on=20 hold down the ALT key and type 0240 to make the =F0 = rune.
 
Some other = useful=20 runes/special characters are:
 

 

  ALT+0193 =3D =C1 =

  ALT+0225 =3D =E1 =

 

  ALT+0196 =3D =C4 =

  ALT+0228 =3D =E4 =

 

  ALT+0197 =3D =C5 =

  ALT+0229 =3D =E5 =

 

  ALT+0198 =3D =C6 =

  ALT+0230 =3D =E6 =

 

  ALT+0201 =3D =C9 =

 

 

  ALT+0203 =3D =CB =

  ALT+0235 =3D =EB =

 

  ALT+0205 =3D =CD =

  ALT+0237 =3D =ED =

 

  ALT+0211 =3D =D3 =

  ALT+0243 =3D =F3 =

 

  ALT+0214 =3D =D6 =

  ALT+0246 =3D =F6 =

 

  ALT+0216 =3D =D8 =

  ALT+0248 =3D =F8  

 

  ALT+0218 =3D =DA =

  ALT+0250 =3D =FA =

 

  ALT+0220 =3D =DC =

  ALT+0252 =3D =FC =

 

  ALT+0221 =3D =DD =

  ALT+0253 =3D =FD =

 

  ALT+0208 =3D =D0 =

  ALT+0240 =3D =F0  

 

  ALT+0222 =3D =DE =

  ALT+0254 =3D =FE  

 

  ALT+0223 =3D =DF  =20 (  =DF is a letter you find = in modern=20 German, and represents a   double=20 S as I recall ) 

= ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C3ADCC.13C77C00-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 17:07:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:07:11 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Full Circle: First Contact (Cranbrook Exhibit) References: <20031118153046.60075.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C3ADCC.7F791080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's Cranbrook website, with exhibit information in it (Bloomfield = Hills, MI, is just north of Detroit). http://www.cranbrook.edu/institute/exhibits/full_circle.shtml It is a small exhibit (we were able to see it a few days ago). If anyone has questions about it, I can try to answer them. Many of the artifacts were actually reproductions and many were familiar = from books. But there were a few artifacts that I've not seen elsewhere--the outer = shell of a lock made of whalebone, a rectangular wooden ladle, a small = square trencher, to name a few. The artifacts in the exhibit are divided up into half Innuit/Dorset = culture and half European, and of the European, about half is Viking Age = and the rest medieval Greenlandic. There are a number of items from the = L'Anse aux Meadows dig. I hope to go back again to take photos of items not in the exhibit = catalog, which is: FULL CIRCLE First Contact: Vikings and Skraelings in = Newfoundland and Labrador (ISBN 0-9691590-5-6) --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: DOTWFAOB To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] FW: [RegiaNA] Unofficial World of the Norse Oh goodie.. clapping hands in delight.. more links to add to my = already humungous collection.. thanks Guthrum Kathy=20 "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: Darrell has said that since the Crandrook Institute has not set up = its own website for the exhibition, I can forward this to the lists. Guthrum=20 [for those who keep thinking it's spelt differently] Wrom: UZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHD Subject: [The Manx] Unofficial World of the Norse http://home.golden.net/~wareham/worldnorse This is the full 'unofficial' web site documenting World of the = Norse. Included is the 'virtual tour', with notes on the objects included, = plus some educational related links. Right now this URL is not registered = or linked * in * from the outside world. The Cranbrook Institute may = provide official site hosting for the content - but if they don't I will = link up this site on my own. Darrell ---------------------- Darrell Markewitz Interpretive Program Designer the Wareham Forge RR # 2, Proton Station, Ont. - Canada - N0C 1L0 phone/fax 519-923-9219 museums@warehamforge.ca Information on the 'Norse Encampment' series of programs can be = found at: http://www.warehamforge.ca/encamp.html ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor = ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or = Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & = Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=3D5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/PJ_qlB/TM = ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to = http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/=20 _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C3ADCC.7F791080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's Cranbrook website, with = exhibit=20 information in it (Bloomfield Hills, MI, is just north=20 of Detroit).
 
ht= tp://www.cranbrook.edu/institute/exhibits/full_circle.shtml
 
 
It is a small exhibit (we were able to = see it a few=20 days ago).
If anyone has questions about it, I can = try to=20 answer them.
 
Many of the artifacts were actually = reproductions=20 and many were familiar from books.
But there were a few artifacts that = I've not seen=20 elsewhere--the outer shell of a lock made of whalebone, a rectangular = wooden=20 ladle, a small square trencher, to name a few.
 
The artifacts in the exhibit are = divided up into=20 half Innuit/Dorset culture and half European, and of the European, about = half is=20 Viking Age and the rest medieval Greenlandic.  There are a number = of items=20 from the L'Anse aux Meadows dig.
 
I hope to go back again to take photos = of items not=20 in the exhibit catalog, which is: FULL CIRCLE=20 First Contact: Vikings and Skraelings in Newfoundland and Labrador = (ISBN 0-9691590-5-6)
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, = 2003 10:30=20 AM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] FW: = [RegiaNA]=20 Unofficial World of the Norse

Oh goodie..  clapping hands in delight.. more links to add = to my=20 already humungous collection..
thanks Guthrum
Kathy

"Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.go= v.uk>=20 wrote:
Darrell=20 has said that since the Crandrook Institute has not set up its=20 own
website for the exhibition, I can forward this to the=20 lists.

Guthrum
[for those who keep thinking it's spelt=20 differently]



From: Darrell Markewitz=20 [mailto:wareham@golden.net]
Subject: [The Manx] Unofficial World = of the=20 Norse

http://home.golden.net/~wareham/worldnorse

This = is the=20 full 'unofficial' web site documenting World of the = Norse.
Included is=20 the 'virtual tour', with notes on the objects included, plus
some = educational related links. Right now this URL is not registered = or
linked=20 * in * from the outside world. The Cranbrook Institute may=20 provide
official site hosting for the content - but if they don't = I will=20 link up
this site on my=20 own.

Darrell

----------------------
Darrell=20 Markewitz
Interpretive Program Designer

the Wareham = Forge
RR #=20 2, Proton Station, Ont. - Canada - N0C 1L0
phone/fax=20 519-923-9219
museums@warehamforge.ca

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Protect=20 your identity with Yahoo! Mail = AddressGuard ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C3ADCC.7F791080-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 17:42:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:42:58 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> <000401c3adf5$a463c2e0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <00c801c3adfb$67814ef0$73712052@kim1> Could we hang fire on photocopying etc? Give me a few days and we'll see what can be done................ Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Field" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Hi Charotte > If it is the Northern wic handbook you are referring to thats very kind of > you to offer up your time do photocopy this but perhaps that is something I > can do now. > I had expectations that someone who had offered to do this was going to come > through but they are not even replying to emails. > I think, as an alternative to the electronic means of delivering this > handbook, I'll do the photo copying and have copies here I can distribute > along with new members material. > Cheers > Martin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook that > > aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States it > > might be easier for me to do it than for others. > > > > I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some of > > Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. > > > > If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think it > > makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially out > of > > date. > > > > I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I > imagine > > the per-copy cost would be low. > > > > Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook that > we > > could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is > > prohibitive. Just a thought. > > > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > > > Hi Jan, > > > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > > > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is sorely in > > > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch or so > > > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has been > > sent > > > to a few people. > > > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new revised > > > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is meant > for > > > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no real > info > > > on kit production etc. > > > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of that. > > > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > > > revision. > > > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was doing > the > > > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson and, I > > > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and Viking > > > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through the > > Saxon > > > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members > > mentioned > > > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my > > co-ordinating > > > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > > > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the > > original > > > Handbook still in existance? > > > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a small > > > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across > 'the > > > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > > > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical > reasons, > > so > > > has anyone else a solution? > > > Hazel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:09:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:09:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] RE:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Guðrum In-Reply-To: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4926@MAILSERVER-UK> Message-ID: <20031118180911.24280.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-259555406-1069178951=:23659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hmm i am using win98.. but i dont see those characters anywhere.. bummer kathy Pete James wrote: Hi there is another route to find them. Going via the 'start' symbol in the bottom left of your screen, go to Programs, Acessories, Character Map and there are a whole raft of useful characters æ Æ Ð ð Å å Þ þ etc etc. Guðroð Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-259555406-1069178951=:23659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hmm i am using win98..  but i dont see those characters anywhere..
bummer
kathy

Pete James <peter@citizen.co.uk> wrote:
Hi

there is another route to find them.

Going via the 'start' symbol in the bottom left of your screen, go to
Programs, Acessories, Character Map and there are a whole raft of useful
characters

æ Æ Ð ð Å å Þ þ etc etc.

Guðroð Of Colanhomm

"Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books"
J.R.R. Tolkien

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-259555406-1069178951=:23659-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:12:41 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Kerr) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:12:41 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] FW: [RegiaNA] Unofficial World of the Norse References: Message-ID: <003301c3adff$8f944330$5b9b08d8@boatanchor> The Coppergate-style helmet from the display was made by Regia's own Mark Patchett. Chris From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:14:39 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:14:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] RE:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Guðrum/Rob In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118181439.28344.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2125634933-1069179279=:25081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yes i was holding the ALT key down at the same time..:( "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:57 AM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Gudrum_vs._Guðrum Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. kathy --huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't work on but I hear they are out there, looks like you found one;) sorry H ps, you are holding the ALT key down WHILE you type the number, correct? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2125634933-1069179279=:25081 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
yes i was holding the ALT key down at the same time..:(


"Schuster, Robert L." <SchusterRL@umsystem.edu> wrote:
 
-----Original Message-----
From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Kathy
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:57 AM
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Gudrum_vs._Guðrum

Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. 
kathy 
  
--huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't work on but I hear they are out there, looks like you found one;)
 
sorry
 
H
ps, you are holding the ALT key down WHILE you type the number, correct?
 

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-2125634933-1069179279=:25081-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:18:52 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Kerr) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:18:52 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BRegia-NA=5D_RE:_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Gudrum=5Fvs.=5FGu=F0?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?rum?= References: Message-ID: <006201c3ae00$6cb3edb0$5b9b08d8@boatanchor> >Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. >kathy >--huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't >work on but I hear they are out there, looks like you >found one;) Try using the insert special character application. Click on start-programs-accesories-character map. Select the character you want to insert and press copy. Then paste it into your document.. A little slower, but just as effective. Chris From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:26:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:26:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:_[Regia-NA]_RE:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Guðrum In-Reply-To: <006201c3ae00$6cb3edb0$5b9b08d8@boatanchor> Message-ID: <20031118182606.15626.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1591397520-1069179966=:14193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in accessories.. Kathy Chris Kerr wrote: >Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. >kathy >--huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't >work on but I hear they are out there, looks like you >found one;) Try using the insert special character application. Click on start-programs-accesories-character map. Select the character you want to insert and press copy. Then paste it into your document.. A little slower, but just as effective. Chris _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1591397520-1069179966=:14193 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in accessories..
Kathy

Chris Kerr <ckerr@spectranet.ca> wrote:
>Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard..
>kathy

>--huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't >work on but I hear
they are out there, looks like you >found one;)


Try using the insert special character application. Click on
start-programs-accesories-character map. Select the character you want to
insert and press copy. Then paste it into your document.. A little slower,
but just as effective.

Chris

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1591397520-1069179966=:14193-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:30:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:30:19 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> <000401c3adf5$a463c2e0$7900a8c0@field> <00c801c3adfb$67814ef0$73712052@kim1> Message-ID: <000401c3ae02$054ff680$7900a8c0@field> Ok, I cannot personally get any photocopying done for a few days as I've enough going on right now. Cheers Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K Siddorn" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Could we hang fire on photocopying etc? Give me a few days and we'll see > what can be done................ > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Field" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Hi Charotte > > If it is the Northern wic handbook you are referring to thats very kind of > > you to offer up your time do photocopy this but perhaps that is something > I > > can do now. > > I had expectations that someone who had offered to do this was going to > come > > through but they are not even replying to emails. > > I think, as an alternative to the electronic means of delivering this > > handbook, I'll do the photo copying and have copies here I can distribute > > along with new members material. > > Cheers > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook > that > > > aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States > it > > > might be easier for me to do it than for others. > > > > > > I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some of > > > Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. > > > > > > If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think it > > > makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially o ut > > of > > > date. > > > > > > I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I > > imagine > > > the per-copy cost would be low. > > > > > > Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook that > > we > > > could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is > > > prohibitive. Just a thought. > > > > > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > > > > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is sorely > in > > > > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch or > so > > > > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has > been > > > sent > > > > to a few people. > > > > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new revised > > > > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is meant > > for > > > > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no real > > info > > > > on kit production etc. > > > > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of that. > > > > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > > > > revision. > > > > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was doing > > the > > > > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson and, > I > > > > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and Viking > > > > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through the > > > Saxon > > > > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members > > > mentioned > > > > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my > > > co-ordinating > > > > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > > > > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the > > > original > > > > Handbook still in existance? > > > > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a > small > > > > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across > > 'the > > > > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > > > > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical > > reasons, > > > so > > > > has anyone else a solution? > > > > Hazel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 18:52:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kitten *) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:52:14 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Regia-NA] =?x-unknown?Q?RE:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Gu=F0rum/Rob?= In-Reply-To: <20031118181439.28344.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031118181439.28344.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > --huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't work on but I > hear they are out there, looks like you found one;) It's not the computer, it's the program one is using. It works in most Microsoft products - words, outlook, etc. It will work in some versions of Pine, and not others. etc.... Karen From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 19:04:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:04:04 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Re=3A=5F=5BRegia-NA=5D=5FRE?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3A=5F=5BRegia-NA=5D=5FGudrum=5Fvs=2E=5FGu=F0rum?= Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AE06.BC242C76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in = accessories.. Kathy=20 =20 not to drag out the technobabble but try = Start>Programs>Accessories>System Tools =20 at least that's where it is on my pc (Windows XP) =20 H ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AE06.BC242C76 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


 
Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed = in=20 accessories..
Kathy 
 
not to=20 drag out the technobabble but try = Start>Programs>Accessories>System=20 Tools
 
at=20 least that's where it is on my pc (Windows XP)
 
H
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3AE06.BC242C76-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 19:29:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:29:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] _Gudrum_vs._Guðrum/Rob In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118192958.87392.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1362554069-1069183798=:83992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ah you are using Win XP i am chugging along with good old Win 98 I will give it a whirl though kathy "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in accessories.. Kathy not to drag out the technobabble but try Start>Programs>Accessories>System Tools at least that's where it is on my pc (Windows XP) H --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1362554069-1069183798=:83992 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ah you are using  Win XP  i am chugging along with good old Win 98
I will give it a whirl though
kathy

"Schuster, Robert L." <SchusterRL@umsystem.edu> wrote:


 
Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in accessories..
Kathy 
 
not to drag out the technobabble but try Start>Programs>Accessories>System Tools
 
at least that's where it is on my pc (Windows XP)
 
H

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1362554069-1069183798=:83992-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 19:58:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:58:07 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031118074440.24381.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> <003a01c3addb$92db6240$0200a8c0@mshome.net> <000401c3adf5$a463c2e0$7900a8c0@field> <00c801c3adfb$67814ef0$73712052@kim1> Message-ID: Not to worry. I wouldn't copy and distribute without express permission. And I've no wish to get in the way of all the good work Martin is doing. He's got a much better idea of who's already received what info! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: BLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJS To: Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Could we hang fire on photocopying etc? Give me a few days and we'll see > what can be done................ > > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: NBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZ > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Hi Charotte > > If it is the Northern wic handbook you are referring to thats very kind of > > you to offer up your time do photocopy this but perhaps that is something > I > > can do now. > > I had expectations that someone who had offered to do this was going to > come > > through but they are not even replying to emails. > > I think, as an alternative to the electronic means of delivering this > > handbook, I'll do the photo copying and have copies here I can distribute > > along with new members material. > > Cheers > > Martin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Wrom: OWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIM > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:17 AM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook > that > > > aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States > it > > > might be easier for me to do it than for others. > > > > > > I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some of > > > Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. > > > > > > If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think it > > > makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially out > > of > > > date. > > > > > > I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I > > imagine > > > the per-copy cost would be low. > > > > > > Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook that > > we > > > could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is > > > prohibitive. Just a thought. > > > > > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > > > > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is sorely > in > > > > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch or > so > > > > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has > been > > > sent > > > > to a few people. > > > > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new revised > > > > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is meant > > for > > > > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no real > > info > > > > on kit production etc. > > > > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of that. > > > > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > > > > revision. > > > > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was doing > > the > > > > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson and, > I > > > > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and Viking > > > > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through the > > > Saxon > > > > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members > > > mentioned > > > > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my > > > co-ordinating > > > > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > > > > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the > > > original > > > > Handbook still in existance? > > > > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a > small > > > > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across > > 'the > > > > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > > > > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical > > reasons, > > > so > > > > has anyone else a solution? > > > > Hazel > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 21:03:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Dmitriy V. Ryaboy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:03:33 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories Message-ID: The issue with mis-identification of the Strong-Kiev helmets was not the Kiev historians and archaeologists; in fact, as far as I understand it, no Russian or Ukranian historian ever claimed the helmet from Kiev to be medieval. Certainly, I haven't seen it in any of the Russian-language sources I've used. I was told it used to be on display in a Kiev museum without a label, because they didn't know what to do with it :). Point being, the Strong/Kiev debacle is no reason to distrust information coming out of Ukraine. There are other reasons (salt is a great seasoning, in my experience ;), but that's not one of them. The Kiev helmet with the nasal you are speaking of seems legit to me. Wouldn't hazard a guess at the age without knowing the circumstances of the find (though I am sure I can come up with what various archaeologists like Kirpichnikov have claimed, if you guys are interested). Speaking of helmets -- check out the photos here: http://tgorod.ru/index.php?contentid=252 (explanations of what you are looking at are here: http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/Forum4/HTML/003016.html ) -Dmitriy >The helm i am talking about is not of the Strong type (the one in "the >museum of >the city of kiev") but a different form (with eyebrows and nasal). The >text >suggests it may be made from 4 overlapping plates but i can't see them in >the >piccy (mildly confusing as it's only a sentence worth in the text). The >second >helm is from the "national museum of the history of the ukrane, kiev". > >piccy at www.nathanspage.co.uk/piccys/kievhelm.jpg > >What i was trying to say was that given the issues highlighted by the >'Strong' >helm we might be best taking the other helm from Kiev with a pinch of salt. > _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 21:11:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:11:38 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories Message-ID: The Kiev helmet with the nasal you are speaking of seems legit to me. =20 --D do you have any pics of this helm? I cant recall ever hearing of it Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 22:50:52 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:50:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Guðrum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118225052.25827.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Is there a way to make the rune "wyn"? Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 23:17:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:17:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook In-Reply-To: <000401c3adf5$a463c2e0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031118231747.94325.qmail@web11509.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone thought of putting the handbook into PDF format, perhaps in individual sections? Then it could be sent via email, or put up on the web site to be downloaded, or even burned to CD for distribution. Lots easier and cheaper to mail than paper copies. If I were caught up on my paying jobs, I'd volunteer to do that for the group. CD's are extremely cheap. Perhaps by next spring, I'll be a little ahead, and can do it for you, if you like. That's taking stuff someone else has typed, and making the CD's. If I had to do the typing, it wouldn't be done by 2066. Um, I teach multimedia, desktop publishing, digital photography and video, and arts and crafts at a local branch of a Native American College. I do freelance graphics and video from my home. I have all the programs and equipment necessary to do the job, and I now have DSL, so I can download bigger files. Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 18 23:51:48 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (dactar) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:51:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Raised helmets & conspiracy theories In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031118235148.23769.qmail@web11606.mail.yahoo.com> > come up with what various archaeologists like Kirpichnikov have claimed, if you guys are interested). I am. d __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 01:03:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:03:07 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Message-ID: <20031119010308.UVFV11704.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> Hi Jan I'll keep you in mind - it is times like these I wish I had the ability to compress and/or transfer the digital files onto CD. Cheers Martin. > From: Jan Ward > Date: 2003/11/18 Tue PM 06:17:47 EST > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > Has anyone thought of putting the handbook into PDF > format, perhaps in individual sections? Then it could > be sent via email, or put up on the web site to be > downloaded, or even burned to CD for distribution. > Lots easier and cheaper to mail than paper copies. > If I were caught up on my paying jobs, I'd volunteer > to do that for the group. CD's are extremely cheap. > Perhaps by next spring, I'll be a little ahead, and > can do it for you, if you like. That's taking stuff > someone else has typed, and making the CD's. If I had > to do the typing, it wouldn't be done by 2066. > Um, I teach multimedia, desktop publishing, digital > photography and video, and arts and crafts at a local > branch of a Native American College. I do freelance > graphics and video from my home. I have all the > programs and equipment necessary to do the job, and I > now have DSL, so I can download bigger files. > Edwinna > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 01:25:09 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:25:09 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Message-ID: <20031119012509.HZTM6808.tomts27-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> Hi Charlotte Thanks for your suport and understanding - very much appreciated. I really hope this handbook issue can get sorted out, at least to some degree, as it would restore us having access to a key source of information - especially those of us in N.A. who cannot just jump into their Lear jet and 'drop' in on any given UK Regia group. Now there's an interesting thought - I wonder if Kim would send me a weekly allowance for trans-atlantic personal 'research' :-)) Martin > From: crmayhew@hotmail.com > Date: 2003/11/18 Tue PM 02:58:07 EST > To: > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > Not to worry. I wouldn't copy and distribute without express permission. > > And I've no wish to get in the way of all the good work Martin is doing. > He's got a much better idea of who's already received what info! > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: BLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJS > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Could we hang fire on photocopying etc? Give me a few days and we'll see > > what can be done................ > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Wrom: NBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZ > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > Hi Charotte > > > If it is the Northern wic handbook you are referring to thats very kind > of > > > you to offer up your time do photocopy this but perhaps that is > something > > I > > > can do now. > > > I had expectations that someone who had offered to do this was going to > > come > > > through but they are not even replying to emails. > > > I think, as an alternative to the electronic means of delivering this > > > handbook, I'll do the photo copying and have copies here I can > distribute > > > along with new members material. > > > Cheers > > > Martin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Wrom: OWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIM > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:17 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > > > > I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook > > that > > > > aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States > > it > > > > might be easier for me to do it than for others. > > > > > > > > I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some > of > > > > Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. > > > > > > > > If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think > it > > > > makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially > out > > > of > > > > date. > > > > > > > > I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I > > > imagine > > > > the per-copy cost would be low. > > > > > > > > Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook > that > > > we > > > > could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is > > > > prohibitive. Just a thought. > > > > > > > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > > > > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > > > > > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is > sorely > > in > > > > > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch > or > > so > > > > > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has > > been > > > > sent > > > > > to a few people. > > > > > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new > revised > > > > > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is > meant > > > for > > > > > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no > real > > > info > > > > > on kit production etc. > > > > > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of > that. > > > > > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > > > > > revision. > > > > > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was > doing > > > the > > > > > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson > and, > > I > > > > > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and > Viking > > > > > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through > the > > > > Saxon > > > > > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members > > > > mentioned > > > > > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my > > > > co-ordinating > > > > > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > > > > > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the > > > > original > > > > > Handbook still in existance? > > > > > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a > > small > > > > > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across > > > 'the > > > > > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > > > > > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical > > > reasons, > > > > so > > > > > has anyone else a solution? > > > > > Hazel > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 01:55:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:55:16 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?B?UmU6X1tSZWdpYS1OQV1fUkU6X1s=?= =?iso-8859-1?B?UmVnaWEtTkFdX0d1ZHJ1bV92cy4=?= =?iso-8859-1?B?X0d18HJ1bQ==?= Message-ID: <20031119015516.VDJJ11704.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=____1069206916634_uNSBkySZwl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone suggested the Uni-code system - Alt 0208 for eth, Alt 0240 for= thorn etc. I use this on a regular basis, especially now, as I'm typing up the Yule = mag, Winlandes Sagu, for the N.A. members of Tha Engliscan Gesithas - thi= s keyboard at work won't permit the unicode in case you were wondering ab= out the mising eth and thorn in the society's name. Cheers Martin > From: Kathy > Date: 2003/11/18 Tue PM 01:26:06 EST > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re:_[Regia-NA]_RE:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Gu=F0r= um > = > Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in = accessories.. > Kathy = > = > Chris Kerr wrote: > >Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard.. > >kathy > = > >--huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't >work on but I = hear > they are out there, looks like you >found one;) > = > = > Try using the insert special character application. Click on > start-programs-accesories-character map. Select the character you want = to > insert and press copy. Then paste it into your document.. A little slow= er, > but just as effective. > = > Chris > = > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > = > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > = ------=____1069206916634_uNSBkySZwl Content-Type: text/html; name="reply" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="reply"
Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in accessories..
Kathy

Chris Kerr <ckerr@spectranet.ca> wrote:
>Oh bother.. it wont work on my keyboard..
>kathy

>--huh, I haven't ever ran across a pc that it wouldn't >work on but I hear
they are out there, looks like you >found one;)


Try using the insert special character application. Click on
start-programs-accesories-character map. Select the character you want to
insert and press copy. Then paste it into your document.. A little slower,
but just as effective.

Chris

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard ------=____1069206916634_uNSBkySZwl-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 04:17:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re:_[Regia-NA]_RE:_[ Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Guðrum In-Reply-To: <20031119015516.VDJJ11704.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> Message-ID: <20031119041711.23171.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1403269044-1069215431=:21720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ahh the next question now of cuss is whatinhell is a Uni-code system kathy marfield66@sympatico.ca wrote: Has anyone suggested the Uni-code system - Alt 0208 for eth, Alt 0240 for thorn etc. I use this on a regular basis, especially now, as I'm typing up the Yule mag, Winlandes Sagu, for the N.A. members of Tha Engliscan Gesithas - this keyboard at work won't permit the unicode in case you were wondering about the mising eth and thorn in the society's name. Cheers Martin > with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1403269044-1069215431=:21720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
ahh the next question now of cuss is whatinhell is a Uni-code system
 
kathy

marfield66@sympatico.ca wrote:

Has anyone suggested the Uni-code system - Alt 0208 for eth, Alt 0240 for thorn etc.
I use this on a regular basis, especially now, as I'm typing up the Yule mag, Winlandes Sagu, for the N.A. members of Tha Engliscan Gesithas - this keyboard at work won't permit the unicode in case you were wondering about the mising eth and thorn in the society's name.
Cheers
Martin

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Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard --0-1403269044-1069215431=:21720-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 09:51:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Gareth Evans) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:51:58 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Re=3A=5F=5BRegia-NA=5D=5FR?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?E=3A=5F=5BRegia-NA=5D=5FGudrum=5Fvs=2E=5FGu=F0rum?= Message-ID: Character Map is not installed by default in Windows 98. If the ALT does not work then the only option for you is to install the Character Map program. =20 Start=3D>Settings=3D>Control Panel=3D> Add Remove Programs. =20 Add Windows Components=3D>Accessories, then check the Character Map button. You may need your win98 disk to complete this task. =20 Hope that this helps, if not mail me off list and I will help you out. =20 All the best =20 Goose AKA Gareth Evans, IT Manager. -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 18 November 2003 18:26 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re:_[Regia-NA]_RE:_[Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Gu=F0rum Thanks Chris, but for some reason, character map is not even listed in accessories.. Kathy=20 This line certifies that this message has been scanned for the presense of viruses. Using McAfee Groupshield.=20 ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Labgear Ltd. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 09:58:42 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Gareth Evans) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:58:42 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Re=3A_=5BRegia-NA=5D_Re=3A=5F=5BRegia-NA=5D?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=5FRE=3A=5F=5B__Regia-NA=5D=5FGudrum=5Fvs=2E=5FGu=F0rum?= Message-ID: Every time you press a key on the keyboard, the Uni-Code is sent to the computer. This is how it knows what to type. =20 Uni-code ALT 0120 is x, thus everytime you press x on your keyboard the computer gets ALT 0120. =20 (This is very simplified so as not to confuse people, please do not start a discussion on the actual dynamics of Unicode). =20 All the best =20 Goose -----Original Message----- From: Kathy [mailto:kth62@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 November 2003 04:17 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Re:_[Regia-NA]_RE:_[ Regia-NA]_Gudrum_vs._Gu=F0= rum ahh the next question now of cuss is whatinhell is a Uni-code system=20 =20 kathy=20 This line certifies that this message has been scanned for the presense of viruses. Using McAfee Groupshield.=20 ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Labgear Ltd. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 12:15:24 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:15:24 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031119012509.HZTM6808.tomts27-srv.bellnexxia.net@[209.226.175.22]> Message-ID: <027d01c3ae96$cf569030$73712052@kim1> Certainly Martin - you will get the next grant after mine ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > Hi Charlotte > Thanks for your suport and understanding - very much appreciated. > I really hope this handbook issue can get sorted out, at least to some degree, as it would restore us having access to a key source of information - especially those of us in N.A. who cannot just jump into their Lear jet and 'drop' in on any given UK Regia group. > Now there's an interesting thought - I wonder if Kim would send me a weekly allowance for trans-atlantic personal 'research' :-)) > Martin > > > > From: crmayhew@hotmail.com > > Date: 2003/11/18 Tue PM 02:58:07 EST > > To: > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Not to worry. I wouldn't copy and distribute without express permission. > > > > And I've no wish to get in the way of all the good work Martin is doing. > > He's got a much better idea of who's already received what info! > > > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Wrom: BLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJS > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > Could we hang fire on photocopying etc? Give me a few days and we'll see > > > what can be done................ > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > > > I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me > > > than a free frontal lobotomy! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Wrom: NBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZ > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > > > > Hi Charotte > > > > If it is the Northern wic handbook you are referring to thats very kind > > of > > > > you to offer up your time do photocopy this but perhaps that is > > something > > > I > > > > can do now. > > > > I had expectations that someone who had offered to do this was going to > > > come > > > > through but they are not even replying to emails. > > > > I think, as an alternative to the electronic means of delivering this > > > > handbook, I'll do the photo copying and have copies here I can > > distribute > > > > along with new members material. > > > > Cheers > > > > Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Wrom: OWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIM > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:17 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be willing to undertake photocopying sections of the handbook > > > that > > > > > aren't online or otherwise easily accessible. Since I'm in the States > > > it > > > > > might be easier for me to do it than for others. > > > > > > > > > > I have a copy of the old Members Handbook, and a copy of it with some > > of > > > > > Roland's revisions from Oct. 2000. > > > > > > > > > > If there are updated sections that are ready to go to press, I think > > it > > > > > makes sense to photocopy those rather than ones that are potentially > > out > > > > of > > > > > date. > > > > > > > > > > I would need to be reimbursed for copying & mailing costs, though I > > > > imagine > > > > > the per-copy cost would be low. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it would eventually make sense to have an NA members handbook > > that > > > > we > > > > > could copy and distributing over here, since mailing trans-Atlantic is > > > > > prohibitive. Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > Wrom: QKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRES > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:55 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jan, > > > > > > I have come a bit late to these postings about the Handbook. > > > > > > The original members handbook is more than 10 years old and is > > sorely > > > in > > > > > > need of updating. It is quite large in its paper version..one inch > > or > > > so > > > > > > thick. There is an electronic version, with no pictures, which has > > > been > > > > > sent > > > > > > to a few people. > > > > > > The New Member's Handbook will be just one section of the new > > revised > > > > > > version of the old handbook(I hope this is making sense!) It is > > meant > > > > for > > > > > > new members as an introduction to Regia, and as it stands has no > > real > > > > info > > > > > > on kit production etc. > > > > > > We are hoping that the new revised handbook will address all of > > that. > > > > > > A year ago (or more) I offered to co-ordinate the production of the > > > > > > revision. > > > > > > Martin Williams was doing the Church section. Martin Lathom was > > doing > > > > the > > > > > > Norman section (which I believe he has completed) Andy Nicholson > > and, > > > I > > > > > > believe, Carolyn Priest-Dorman were doing the Celtic fringe and > > Viking > > > > > > sections. I believe Roland Williamson had already checked through > > the > > > > > Saxon > > > > > > section and the Northern Wic produced the section for new members > > > > > mentioned > > > > > > earlier. Unfortunately circumstances forced me to hand over my > > > > > co-ordinating > > > > > > task to Steve Etheridge, the Authenticity Officer. > > > > > > As far as I know, there are no, or at least, very few copies of the > > > > > original > > > > > > Handbook still in existance? > > > > > > Maybe it would be a good idea, as a temporary stop gap, to have a > > > small > > > > > > print run of the old Handbook, for new members, both here and across > > > > 'the > > > > > > pond' who are finding themselves a bit at a loss? > > > > > > Ian seems to think that this would not be possible for technical > > > > reasons, > > > > > so > > > > > > has anyone else a solution? > > > > > > Hazel > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 13:58:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Robert Neidlinger) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:58:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Message-ID: <20031119135820.1594.qmail@web40407.mail.yahoo.com> I too would be willing to help with the formatting and writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. Robert __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 19 16:59:42 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:59:42 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <20031119135820.1594.qmail@web40407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c3aebe$871ab6c0$7900a8c0@field> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. If there is a need I'll be in contact. Thanks Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Neidlinger" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. > > Robert > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 09:54:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Steve Etheridge) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:54:33 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Message-ID: I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess that is my phone line this should be available. I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a lot of credit for her hard work on this. The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There are a few installments nearly ready to go. Steve >Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. >If there is a need I'll be in contact. >Thanks >Martin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Neidlinger" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM >Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and > > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I > > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to > > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections > > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would > > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. > > > > Robert > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 12:18:25 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Joy Cain) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that you may make changes to. Thanks for your compliment, too! Joy On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > that is my phone line this should be available. > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > Steve > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. >> Thanks >> Martin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook >> >> >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > __________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >> > _______________________________________________ >> > list-regia-na mailing list >> > list-regia-na@lig.net >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na >> >> _______________________________________________ >> list-regia-na mailing list >> list-regia-na@lig.net >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 12:30:43 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:30:43 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4943@MAILSERVER-UK> Hi At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the original handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. If I was given permission, I could scan it, pdf it, burn it onto a cd and send it to Cafeshops http://www.cafepress.com . They would happily sell hard copies of the pdf printed into a book (about $15 ex. post), or copies of the data CD (about $5 ex. post) via post and credit card, to anyone with access to the internet and a credit card. I reckon I could have the PDF book available through my Cafeshops account (no mark-up, base price only) by next weekend (27th ?) or a Data CD by about 6/7 December (depending on post) If it helps I'll even pay the cost of the CD and the postage to California myself. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Joy Cain [mailto:jcain@insight.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that you may make changes to. Thanks for your compliment, too! Joy On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > that is my phone line this should be available. > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > Steve > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. >> Thanks >> Martin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook >> >> >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > __________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >> > _______________________________________________ >> > list-regia-na mailing list >> > list-regia-na@lig.net >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na >> >> _______________________________________________ >> list-regia-na mailing list >> list-regia-na@lig.net >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 15:04:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:04:56 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4949@MAILSERVER-UK> Hi. On another list there is some debate about headgear. This was posted last night: On the other hand, there's the Coppergate cap. It was found, IIRC, with a woman's skeleton. But it is almost identical to the hat known throughout the rest of the Middle Ages as coif or biggens, which was unisex, and worn across class barriers. So can a A-S man wear the Coppergate cap? What are the thoughts on this ? Pete -----Original Message----- From: Pete James [mailto:peter@citizen.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:31 PM To: 'list-regia-na@lig.net' Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Hi At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the original handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. If I was given permission, I could scan it, pdf it, burn it onto a cd and send it to Cafeshops http://www.cafepress.com . They would happily sell hard copies of the pdf printed into a book (about $15 ex. post), or copies of the data CD (about $5 ex. post) via post and credit card, to anyone with access to the internet and a credit card. I reckon I could have the PDF book available through my Cafeshops account (no mark-up, base price only) by next weekend (27th ?) or a Data CD by about 6/7 December (depending on post) If it helps I'll even pay the cost of the CD and the postage to California myself. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Joy Cain [mailto:jcain@insight.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that you may make changes to. Thanks for your compliment, too! Joy On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > that is my phone line this should be available. > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > Steve > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. >> Thanks >> Martin >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook >> >> >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > __________________________________ >> > Do you Yahoo!? >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >> > _______________________________________________ >> > list-regia-na mailing list >> > list-regia-na@lig.net >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na >> >> _______________________________________________ >> list-regia-na mailing list >> list-regia-na@lig.net >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 16:09:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Boulton) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:09:28 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4943@MAILSERVER-UK> Message-ID: <002501c3af80$adad3430$13156751@duron800> > At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the original > handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. Please be aware that there are a few things in the old handbook that are no longer kosher.....the plastic nocked arrows being a prime example. It might be by far better to wait for the new one to come out, even if it does take a bit of time. Chris. From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 16:15:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:15:17 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E494E@MAILSERVER-UK> I am happy to comply with whatever is wanted. I just felt it only fair to point out that the option does exist and that it is not an especially long-winded or difficult process. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Chris Boulton [mailto:chris.boulton@ntlworld.com] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:09 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the original > handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. Please be aware that there are a few things in the old handbook that are no longer kosher.....the plastic nocked arrows being a prime example. It might be by far better to wait for the new one to come out, even if it does take a bit of time. Chris. _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 17:20:49 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Carolyn Priest-Dorman) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear In-Reply-To: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4949@MAILSERVER-UK> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031120121137.02724e18@pop.cs.vassar.edu> Pete quoted somebody from another list: >On the other hand, there's the Coppergate cap. It was found, IIRC, with a >woman's skeleton. The Coppergate cap was not found in a grave; it was a stand-alone find (as pit fill). Whether it belonged to a man or woman is, technically, unknown. However, the working assumption has been that it is an item of female attire. >But it is almost identical to the hat known throughout the >rest of the Middle Ages as coif or biggens, which was unisex, and worn >across class barriers. The typical coif type of headwear is more shaped than the Coppergate cap. Also, it covered more of the head. Don't be fooled by the drawing in Owen-Crocker, which depicts the cap as a great deal larger and more voluminous than it actually is. If you make a Coppergate cap to original size (easy since it survives more or less entire) you will see that it doesn't cover more than half the head of an adult. >So can a A-S man wear the Coppergate cap? I'm certainly not in any position to rule on that sort of question, but my expectation would be "no," at least, not if the question really being asked is "can an A-S man wear a coif because of the Coppergate cap?" Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 17:38:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:38:33 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4943@MAILSERVER-UK> Message-ID: <001301c3af8d$1e6ceb50$73712052@kim1> Hi Pete, That's most helpful of you Pete and I appreciate it. However, I am in the middle of arranging to get the updated version printed and delivered to every member, so I'd be grateful if you did not take a hand at this time. There are copyright problems with some of the artwork and parts of the text which I am also doing my best to attend to in order to level the playing field. Mainly because of copyright entanglements, it is unlikely that freely available CD's or non-member accessible PDF's will be available from any web-based source in the immediate future. None could be more aware than I that the Member's Handbook creates the most intense interest and attention amongst our Regia members in North America and in other far flung places. I ask politely that the hard work and joint efforts of many over the last 18 months are allowed to bear fruit and that no guns are jumped nor cocks halved ;o)) Finally, I'd not like any to think that we have been sitting on our hands over this: Joy Cain started the ball rolling in producing the first electronic text we have had available in ten years and since then various contributors have been involved in correcting and amending and adding to the original. Photographs will replace line art in many cases and it will be a better product than the old. I respectfully ask for your continued patience. Regards, Kim Siddorn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete James" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Hi > > At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the original > handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. > > If I was given permission, I could scan it, pdf it, burn it onto a cd and > send it to Cafeshops http://www.cafepress.com . > > They would happily sell hard copies of the pdf printed into a book (about > $15 ex. post), or copies of the data CD (about $5 ex. post) via post and > credit card, to anyone with access to the internet and a credit card. > > I reckon I could have the PDF book available through my Cafeshops account > (no mark-up, base price only) by next weekend (27th ?) or a Data CD by about > 6/7 December (depending on post) > > If it helps I'll even pay the cost of the CD and the postage to California > myself. > > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joy Cain [mailto:jcain@insight.rr.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? > Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to > "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The > upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that > you may make changes to. > > Thanks for your compliment, too! > > Joy > > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > > > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > > that is my phone line this should be available. > > > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had > > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it > > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > > > > Steve > > > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. > >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. > >> Thanks > >> Martin > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM > >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > >> > >> > >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and > >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I > >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to > >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections > >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would > >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. > >> > > >> > Robert > >> > > >> > __________________________________ > >> > Do you Yahoo!? > >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > list-regia-na mailing list > >> > list-regia-na@lig.net > >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> list-regia-na mailing list > >> list-regia-na@lig.net > >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 17:47:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:47 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films In-Reply-To: <20031118150247.28710.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031118150247.28710.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20031120174747.11125.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Kathy writes: "Which reminds me.. has any one read Michel Crochton's latest book Timeline?" I've read the book. I enjoyed it, in part because the story was good and in part because I'm interested in 14th century Europe (particularly the HRE, though). My hopes for the movie aren't high. One of the main points of the book is the misunderstanding surrouding the Middle Ages due to inaccurate movies, commonly believed falsehoods, etc., and I have a feeling that this movie will, ironically, feed those very myths. I'm guessing the garb, arms & armour, politics, etc. will probably be as bad as those depicted in movies like Braveheart. Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 18:14:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (guthroth) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:14:07 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4943@MAILSERVER-UK> <001301c3af8d$1e6ceb50$73712052@kim1> Message-ID: <09e401c3af92$8eb330e0$719e8351@user> Hi no problem for me, I am happy to comply with whatever is wanted. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K Siddorn" To: Cc: "Regia UK E-group" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Hi Pete, > > That's most helpful of you Pete and I appreciate it. However, I am in the > middle of arranging to get the updated version printed and delivered to > every member, so I'd be grateful if you did not take a hand at this time. > > There are copyright problems with some of the artwork and parts of the text > which I am also doing my best to attend to in order to level the playing > field. Mainly because of copyright entanglements, it is unlikely that freely > available CD's or non-member accessible PDF's will be available from any > web-based source in the immediate future. > > None could be more aware than I that the Member's Handbook creates the most > intense interest and attention amongst our Regia members in North America > and in other far flung places. I ask politely that the hard work and joint > efforts of many over the last 18 months are allowed to bear fruit and that > no guns are jumped nor cocks halved ;o)) > > Finally, I'd not like any to think that we have been sitting on our hands > over this: Joy Cain started the ball rolling in producing the first > electronic text we have had available in ten years and since then various > contributors have been involved in correcting and amending and adding to the > original. > > Photographs will replace line art in many cases and it will be a better > product than the old. > > I respectfully ask for your continued patience. > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete James" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:30 PM > Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Hi > > > > At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the > original > > handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. > > > > If I was given permission, I could scan it, pdf it, burn it onto a cd and > > send it to Cafeshops http://www.cafepress.com . > > > > They would happily sell hard copies of the pdf printed into a book (about > > $15 ex. post), or copies of the data CD (about $5 ex. post) via post and > > credit card, to anyone with access to the internet and a credit card. > > > > I reckon I could have the PDF book available through my Cafeshops account > > (no mark-up, base price only) by next weekend (27th ?) or a Data CD by > about > > 6/7 December (depending on post) > > > > If it helps I'll even pay the cost of the CD and the postage to California > > myself. > > > > > > Pete > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joy Cain [mailto:jcain@insight.rr.com] > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? > > Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to > > "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The > > upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that > > you may make changes to. > > > > Thanks for your compliment, too! > > > > Joy > > > > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > > > > > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > > > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > > > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > > > that is my phone line this should be available. > > > > > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > > > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > > > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had > > > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > > > > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > > > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > > > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > > > > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it > > > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > > > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > > > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. > > >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. > > >> Thanks > > >> Martin > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM > > >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > >> > > >> > > >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and > > >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I > > >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to > > >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections > > >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would > > >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. > > >> > > > >> > Robert > > >> > > > >> > __________________________________ > > >> > Do you Yahoo!? > > >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > list-regia-na mailing list > > >> > list-regia-na@lig.net > > >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> list-regia-na mailing list > > >> list-regia-na@lig.net > > >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 18:32:19 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:32:19 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4943@MAILSERVER-UK> <001301c3af8d$1e6ceb50$73712052@kim1> <09e401c3af92$8eb330e0$719e8351@user> Message-ID: <009501c3af94$a1bc7910$73712052@kim1> Thanks Pete. Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "guthroth" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Hi > > no problem for me, I am happy to comply with whatever is wanted. > > Pete > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J K Siddorn" > To: > Cc: "Regia UK E-group" > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Hi Pete, > > > > That's most helpful of you Pete and I appreciate it. However, I am in the > > middle of arranging to get the updated version printed and delivered to > > every member, so I'd be grateful if you did not take a hand at this time. > > > > There are copyright problems with some of the artwork and parts of the > text > > which I am also doing my best to attend to in order to level the playing > > field. Mainly because of copyright entanglements, it is unlikely that > freely > > available CD's or non-member accessible PDF's will be available from any > > web-based source in the immediate future. > > > > None could be more aware than I that the Member's Handbook creates the > most > > intense interest and attention amongst our Regia members in North America > > and in other far flung places. I ask politely that the hard work and joint > > efforts of many over the last 18 months are allowed to bear fruit and that > > no guns are jumped nor cocks halved ;o)) > > > > Finally, I'd not like any to think that we have been sitting on our hands > > over this: Joy Cain started the ball rolling in producing the first > > electronic text we have had available in ten years and since then various > > contributors have been involved in correcting and amending and adding to > the > > original. > > > > Photographs will replace line art in many cases and it will be a better > > product than the old. > > > > I respectfully ask for your continued patience. > > > > Regards, > > > > Kim Siddorn > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pete James" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:30 PM > > Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the > > original > > > handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. > > > > > > If I was given permission, I could scan it, pdf it, burn it onto a cd > and > > > send it to Cafeshops http://www.cafepress.com . > > > > > > They would happily sell hard copies of the pdf printed into a book > (about > > > $15 ex. post), or copies of the data CD (about $5 ex. post) via post and > > > credit card, to anyone with access to the internet and a credit card. > > > > > > I reckon I could have the PDF book available through my Cafeshops > account > > > (no mark-up, base price only) by next weekend (27th ?) or a Data CD by > > about > > > 6/7 December (depending on post) > > > > > > If it helps I'll even pay the cost of the CD and the postage to > California > > > myself. > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joy Cain [mailto:jcain@insight.rr.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM > > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > > > > May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? > > > Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to > > > "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The > > > upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that > > > you may make changes to. > > > > > > Thanks for your compliment, too! > > > > > > Joy > > > > > > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > > > > > > > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > > > > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > > > > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > > > > that is my phone line this should be available. > > > > > > > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > > > > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > > > > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it > had > > > > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > > > > > > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > > > > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > > > > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > > > > > > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as > it > > > > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > > > > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > > > > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. > > > >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. > > > >> Thanks > > > >> Martin > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" > > > >> To: > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM > > > >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and > > > >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I > > > >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to > > > >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections > > > >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would > > > >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. > > > >> > > > > >> > Robert > > > >> > > > > >> > __________________________________ > > > >> > Do you Yahoo!? > > > >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > list-regia-na mailing list > > > >> > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> list-regia-na mailing list > > > >> list-regia-na@lig.net > > > >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 18:35:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:35:36 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films Message-ID: My hopes for the movie aren't high. One of the main points of the book = is=20 the misunderstanding surrouding the Middle Ages due to inaccurate = movies,=20 commonly believed falsehoods, etc., and I have a feeling that this movie = will, ironically, feed those very myths. I'm guessing the garb, arms &=20 armour, politics, etc. will probably be as bad as those depicted in = movies=20 like Braveheart.=20 Cory=20 --this is a good assumption. What we, as history enthusiasts, have to remember is that Hollywood = caters to the masses of Joe Schmoes not us. We are a very small portion = of movie goers. Just go to the movie and enjoy it for what it is, entertainment, not = education;) I forgot this once and sat thru movies picking out what I could as 'no = period', movie going was very unenjoyable during that period. Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 18:41:44 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CRMayhew) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:44 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook References: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4943@MAILSERVER-UK> <001301c3af8d$1e6ceb50$73712052@kim1> Message-ID: Sounds like it'll be worth the wait! Thanks to everyone who's had a hand in this, as it also sounds like a tremendous group effort! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K Siddorn" To: Cc: "Regia UK E-group" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > Hi Pete, > > That's most helpful of you Pete and I appreciate it. However, I am in the > middle of arranging to get the updated version printed and delivered to > every member, so I'd be grateful if you did not take a hand at this time. > > There are copyright problems with some of the artwork and parts of the text > which I am also doing my best to attend to in order to level the playing > field. Mainly because of copyright entanglements, it is unlikely that freely > available CD's or non-member accessible PDF's will be available from any > web-based source in the immediate future. > > None could be more aware than I that the Member's Handbook creates the most > intense interest and attention amongst our Regia members in North America > and in other far flung places. I ask politely that the hard work and joint > efforts of many over the last 18 months are allowed to bear fruit and that > no guns are jumped nor cocks halved ;o)) > > Finally, I'd not like any to think that we have been sitting on our hands > over this: Joy Cain started the ball rolling in producing the first > electronic text we have had available in ten years and since then various > contributors have been involved in correcting and amending and adding to the > original. > > Photographs will replace line art in many cases and it will be a better > product than the old. > > I respectfully ask for your continued patience. > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete James" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:30 PM > Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > Hi > > > > At the risk of opening up a can of worms here, I own a copy of the > original > > handbook, and I have a scanner and a pdf creator. > > > > If I was given permission, I could scan it, pdf it, burn it onto a cd and > > send it to Cafeshops http://www.cafepress.com . > > > > They would happily sell hard copies of the pdf printed into a book (about > > $15 ex. post), or copies of the data CD (about $5 ex. post) via post and > > credit card, to anyone with access to the internet and a credit card. > > > > I reckon I could have the PDF book available through my Cafeshops account > > (no mark-up, base price only) by next weekend (27th ?) or a Data CD by > about > > 6/7 December (depending on post) > > > > If it helps I'll even pay the cost of the CD and the postage to California > > myself. > > > > > > Pete > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joy Cain [mailto:jcain@insight.rr.com] > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:18 PM > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > > > > > May I suggest that you investigate printing places that have Docutechs? > > Kinkos and other quick-print places have them. They allow you to > > "print-on-demand" allowing you to do smaller quantities from disk. The > > upside to this being that you don't have to warehouse lots of books that > > you may make changes to. > > > > Thanks for your compliment, too! > > > > Joy > > > > On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 04:54 AM, Steve Etheridge wrote: > > > > > I have ( as I am sure that some others do) the text of the original > > > handbook on my PC at home. When I have dug it out from various boxes, > > > screwed all the hard-drives back in place and then sorted out the mess > > > that is my phone line this should be available. > > > > > > I was going to make some comment about giving it a light edit, then > > > realised that this was impossible. There is much that is good in it, > > > and much that needs revising, so if a net version is to be used, it had > > > better go out "as is" with a simple health warning. > > > > > > I beleive that it was Joy Cain who originally did the scans and OCR of > > > the handbook, and I beleive that she is on this group - and deserves a > > > lot of credit for her hard work on this. > > > > > > The new handbook will be published and maintaned in installments, as it > > > will be easier to produce and maintain than one large book. These > > > installments will (hopefully) also be available electronically. There > > > are a few installments nearly ready to go. > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > >> Thanks for your offer of assistance Robert. > > >> If there is a need I'll be in contact. > > >> Thanks > > >> Martin > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Robert Neidlinger" > > >> To: > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:58 AM > > >> Subject: [Regia-NA] Member's Handbook > > >> > > >> > > >> > I too would be willing to help with the formatting and > > >> > writing to pdf if that task ever came to be. I > > >> > generally work in pagemaker and can easily write to > > >> > pdf. If this task were to be split up into sections > > >> > it could be accomplished in fairly short order I would > > >> > think. If there is any actual interest in doing it. > > >> > > > >> > Robert > > >> > > > >> > __________________________________ > > >> > Do you Yahoo!? > > >> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > >> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > list-regia-na mailing list > > >> > list-regia-na@lig.net > > >> > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> list-regia-na mailing list > > >> list-regia-na@lig.net > > >> http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection > > > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > list-regia-na mailing list > > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 18:59:18 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 18:59:18 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] King Alfred Message-ID: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> And now for something completely different. My local BBC news programme Points West are promoting a big political debate with a historical theme entitled "Great Westerners". There are various "contestants", none of which have the same cachet as Alfred the Great, without whom, of course, the whole course of British history after the 850's would have been very different. Regia has already had a fair bit of publicity out of this as they have filmed at Wychurst and we had a dozen or so of us in costume in Chippenham a few weeks ago. Further, I have been invited to take part in a live debate in December to bring the vote to a close. The campaign is driven by a phone in and I am hoping to persuade you to make the call and vote for King Alfred, mostly because all the other contestants are so boring and I'd like to see my hero win! Phoning 09011 903330 and pressing 1 will cost you a whole ten pence per call, so could I ask you nicely - pretty please! - to ring in just as many times as you can afford over the next seven days and secure the vote for the only king we ever called "Great". Overseas readers - check your local server before dialling ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn Remember "No Alfred - No England!" From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 19:17:49 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:17:49 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred In-Reply-To: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> References: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> Message-ID: <20031120191749.1949.qmail@earth.connect2.com> J K Siddorn writes: "Phoning 09011 903330 and pressing 1 will cost you a whole ten pence per call, so could I ask you nicely - pretty please! - to ring in just as many times as you can afford over the next seven days and secure the vote for the only king we ever called "Great"." Do you discount Canute the Great because he had a funny accent? ;) Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 19:20:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:20:10 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred References: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> <20031120191749.1949.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Message-ID: <00fd01c3af9b$5103a190$73712052@kim1> No, because he wasn't an English-born king, but a foreign invitee ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cory Nielsen" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred > J K Siddorn writes: > > "Phoning 09011 903330 and pressing 1 will cost you a whole ten pence per > call, so could I ask you nicely - pretty please! - to ring in just as many > times as you can afford over the next seven days and secure the vote for the > only king we ever called "Great"." > > Do you discount Canute the Great because he had a funny accent? ;) > > Cory > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 19:51:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Phil Scott) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:51:56 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred References: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> <20031120191749.1949.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Message-ID: <002901c3af9f$c18c63d0$4d5c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> I don't think I've ever heard Canute called "the Great" before. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cory Nielsen" To: Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:17 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred > J K Siddorn writes: > > "Phoning 09011 903330 and pressing 1 will cost you a whole ten pence per > call, so could I ask you nicely - pretty please! - to ring in just as many > times as you can afford over the next seven days and secure the vote for the > only king we ever called "Great"." > > Do you discount Canute the Great because he had a funny accent? ;) > > Cory > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 20:19:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hazel Uzzell) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:19:16 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred References: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> <20031120191749.1949.qmail@earth.connect2.com> <002901c3af9f$c18c63d0$4d5c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> Message-ID: <008b01c3afa3$92618320$0200a8c0@mshome.net> I'm not sure, but I think Cnut the Great wasn't 'our' Cnut, but one who came later? Cheers, Hazel From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 21:12:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Tracie Brown) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:12:50 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Beowulf Meets Godsylla Message-ID: <6bdcfb37.e5e616dc.8fc9100@punts5.cc.uga.edu> Beowulf Meets Godsylla Meanehw=E6l, baccat meaddeh=E6le, monst=E6= r lurccen; Fulle few too many drincce, hie luccen for fyht. =D0en H= reorfneorht=F0hwr, son of Hrw=E6row=FEheororthwl, =C6sccen =E6wful je= ork to steop outsyd. =DEhud! Bashe! Crasch! Beoom! =D0e bigge = gye Eallum his bon brak, byt his nose offe; Wicced Godsylla = w=E6ld on his asse. Monst=E6r moppe fleor wy=FE eallum men in h=E6ll= e. Beowulf in bacceroome fonecall bamaccen w=E6s; Hearen sond of r= uccus s=E6d, "Hw=E6t =F0e helle?" Graben sheold strang ond swich= -bl=E6d scharp Stond feorth to fyht =F0e grimlic foe. "Me," Gods= ylla s=E6d, "mac =F0e minsemete." Heoro cwyc geten heold wi=FE f= =E6med half-nelson Ond flyng him lic frisbe bac to fen Beowulf b= elly up to meaddeh=E6le bar, S=E6d, "Ne foe beaten mie f=E6rso= m cung-fu." Eorderen cocca-cohla yce-coeld, =F0e reol =FEyng. = A Parody by Tom Weller from Culture Made Stupid From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 21:24:53 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Williams) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:24:53 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred References: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> <20031120191749.1949.qmail@earth.connect2.com> <002901c3af9f$c18c63d0$4d5c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> Message-ID: <3FBD3125.7000000@oswiu.u-net.com> Phil Scott wrote: > I don't think I've ever heard Canute called "the Great" before. > > Phil > It is his regular title among the Danes Pax Oswiu From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 20 23:10:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:10:08 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: King Alfred In-Reply-To: <3FBD3125.7000000@oswiu.u-net.com> References: <00b801c3af98$66571a20$73712052@kim1> <20031120191749.1949.qmail@earth.connect2.com> <002901c3af9f$c18c63d0$4d5c08c3@lz0d2pf1f678b3u> <3FBD3125.7000000@oswiu.u-net.com> Message-ID: <20031120231008.22727.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Martin Williams writes: > It is his regular title among the Danes I wondered if the use of "the Great" (when referring to Canute) was confined to the Danes, so I checked the official website of the British Monarchy: http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page35.asp In addition, the title was used in my history classes in college, and in all the historical references I can recall. :) Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 14:16:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Steve Etheridge) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:16:04 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films Message-ID: >Halvgrimr wrote >What we, as history enthusiasts, have to remember is that Hollywood caters >to the masses of Joe Schmoes not us. We are a very small portion of movie >goers. > I once asked a costume designer why I couldn't wear my kit. She responded by telling me that she knew that my stuff was right, it was just that the public were not familliar with it, and would prefer to see the wrong stuff that they wanted me to wear. I pointed out that the public had this perception only because costume designers had shown it to the public and told them that it was right. If they put the right stuff on extras, the public might become more educated. Alas, education is not the prime goal of the film and TV industry - it's money. Hopefully, the more times that Regia is seen on TV documentaries, the more educated the public will get. This again is a function of money - we with our kit are a lot cheaper than a bunch of extras with a wardrobe department. I guess in about twenty years time we _may_ have a film which meets our kit standards of ten years ago - if we are lucky! >Just go to the movie and enjoy it for what it is, entertainment, not >education;) It was regarded as the duty of the artist in the middle ages to entertain _and_ inform. Aah, the sweet smell of progress :-) Seibhyrt _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 14:24:37 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:24:37 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films Message-ID: If they put the right stuff on extras, the=20 public might become more educated. Alas, education is not the prime = goal of=20 the film and TV industry - it's money. --yup, unfortunately that's what happens the odd thing is that filmmakers will dump loads of money into the = strangest things. I once read somewhere that when making the 13th Warrior, the folks in = charge purposely put all the bad armour in the film as it was what the = public wanted to see. They knew it was wrong but did it anyway. Then the = turned around and threw alot of cash someone's way to make authentic = props like buckets (and other things that slip my mind at this time). I couldn't believe it, but hey at least they were getting something = right Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 14:27:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Steve Etheridge) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:27:28 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear Message-ID: > >>So can a A-S man wear the Coppergate cap? > >I'm certainly not in any position to rule on that sort of question, No, but I am :-) >but my expectation would be "no," at least, not if the question really >being asked is "can an A-S man wear a coif because of the Coppergate cap?" My ruling would be "no", as well, if I ever saw a man trying to wear one in a Regia context - after I stopped laughing. What AS men wore on their heads is a matter for some debate, but I don't see any evidence for coif-style garments, which appear very different in construction - that's the cloth variety for all the combat wombats out there who think of coifs purely in terms of a mail garment Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 16 11:57:23 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CR Mayhew Comcast Account) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:57:23 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Swrods (was: MR Viking Sword Video Question) References: <30174500.1068877317230.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> <003001c3abc8$b16a2bc0$ae870d0c@house> Message-ID: <004c01c3ac38$cc0a9ee0$1b3b2944@hppav> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3AC0E.E2E08370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Conall-- There is a book entitled Swords of the Viking Age by Ian Peirce = (ISBN0-85115-914-1) which is quite good. If you're deeply interested in = swords, this catalogue lists excruciating detail about different swords = (dimensions, when made, where found, what museum now holds it, etc.). = It also categorizes swords according to their different characteristics. I did a quick search and found it listed at $85 most places, but Barnes = & Noble online had it listed just under $80 w/ free shipping. I did = email the publisher to see if they have paperback copies. (I swear I = saw a merchant at Pennsic with a paperback of this book after we'd = bought the hardcover...) I'll let you know what they say. It's been my experience over the years that one really good in-depth = book is worth several other less expensive books. Generally, videotapes have been less helpful to me than books. Videos = usually have some pithy quotes, some lovely scenery & music, and some = good pictures of artifacts. But a book for the same price has a lot = more information, though it's more work to extract the information. = It's also a lot harder to eat popcorn while pouring over a dense = research book and taking notes! :) --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Conall=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited = budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't = offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video = because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products from = Museum Replicas. =20 Thanks, Conall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually = watched it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but = my VCR's are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working = soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up = and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would = like to have a second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the = three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. 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Dear Conall--
 
There is a book entitled Swords of = the Viking=20 Age by Ian Peirce (ISBN0-85115-914-1) which is quite good.  If = you're=20 deeply interested in swords, this catalogue lists excruciating detail = about=20 different swords (dimensions, when made, where found, what museum now = holds it,=20 etc.).  It also categorizes swords according to their different=20 characteristics.
 
I did a quick search and found it = listed at $85=20 most places, but Barnes & Noble online had it listed just=20 under $80 w/ free shipping.  I did email the publisher to see = if they=20 have paperback copies.  (I swear I saw a merchant at Pennsic with a = paperback of this book after we'd bought the hardcover...)  I'll = let you=20 know what they say.
 
It's been my experience over the years = that one=20 really good in-depth book is worth several other less expensive=20 books.
 
Generally, videotapes have been = less helpful=20 to me than books.  Videos usually have some pithy quotes, some = lovely=20 scenery & music, and some good pictures of artifacts.  But a = book for=20 the same price has a lot more information, though it's more work to = extract the=20 information.  It's also a lot harder to eat popcorn while = pouring=20 over a dense research book and taking notes!
 
:)
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Conall
Sent: Saturday, November 15, = 2003 4:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR = Viking Sword=20 Video Question

I would appreciate the input.  My family and I are on a very = limited=20 budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper".  I hope this = doesn't=20 offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the = video=20 because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products = from=20 Museum Replicas. 
 
        Thanks,
 
    Conall
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet= .co.uk=20
Sent: Saturday, November 15, = 2003 12:21=20 AM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR = Viking Sword=20 Video Question

I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually = watched=20 it.  I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but = my VCR's=20 are not working.  I am planning on trying to get them working = soon,=20 because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up = and taping=20 the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like = to have a=20 second look sometime.  If I manage to get one (of the = three...thank=20 goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis.

 

Bill (Leifr)

------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C3AC0E.E2E08370-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 15:36:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:36:36 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Viking Seax Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E495E@MAILSERVER-UK> Hi I cannot imagine why it has happened, but this email was posted by me = almost 5 weeks ago, and suddenly it's re-appeared on all the lists it was sent = to. I can only assume Yahell is playing silly b*ggers again. Pete - Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien -----Original Message----- From: guthroth [mailto:guthroth@btinternet.com] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 9:43 PM To: The-Vikings-List@yahoogroups.com; Norsefolk@yahoogroups.com; California_Viking_Age@yahoogroups.com; list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Viking Seax Hi I knew I'd seen some, but it's taken a couple of days just to find one illustration and one other reference ! The Viking Achievement PP181 Foote & Wilson 1970 (sorry no ISBN) Refering to the grave of a 10thC smith found at Bygland, Morgedal, = Norway "The inventory is fantastic: 4 swords, 4 spearheads, 7 axes. 2 shield-bosses, 9 knives, 13 arrowheads, 14 rattles and 8 bits ....... " Unfortunately it gives no illustrations. The Vikings PP 154 - 155 Else Roesdahl 1991 (still no ISBN - sorry) "Opposite:rich male grave from Birka, Sweden, 10th C." "Large Knife (2), a knife (10) This has one image of the whole grave, and I've scanned it from the = book. It's a bit big, and although I've cut it down for convenience it it's = still 800kb. I will post the image direct to anyone who asks for it, as well as the = image sections of the California, Norsefolk and The-Vikings lists on Monday. Pete - Gu=F0ro=F0 of Colanhomm Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books J.R.R. Tolkien > I see people are talking about Viking style seaxs, does anyone have > any photos and details of any seaxs found in Scandinavia during the > Viking period. I have details of ones from the Vendel period as well > as Anglo-Saxon seaxs that were found in the UK. But I have no details > of any Viking ones, information on such finds and details would be > very useful to me for a new standards manual we are working on. > > Ian _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 15:46:09 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CRMayhew) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:46:09 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Swords (was: MR Viking Sword Video Question) References: <30174500.1068877317230.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> <003001c3abc8$b16a2bc0$ae870d0c@house> <004c01c3ac38$cc0a9ee0$1b3b2944@hppav> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3B01C.ACA80050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did hear back from the publisher and, alas!, they say no paperback = copies are available. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: CR Mayhew Comcast Account=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 6:57 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Swrods (was: MR Viking Sword Video = Question) Dear Conall-- There is a book entitled Swords of the Viking Age by Ian Peirce = (ISBN0-85115-914-1) which is quite good. If you're deeply interested in = swords, this catalogue lists excruciating detail about different swords = (dimensions, when made, where found, what museum now holds it, etc.). = It also categorizes swords according to their different characteristics. I did a quick search and found it listed at $85 most places, but = Barnes & Noble online had it listed just under $80 w/ free shipping. I = did email the publisher to see if they have paperback copies. (I swear = I saw a merchant at Pennsic with a paperback of this book after we'd = bought the hardcover...) I'll let you know what they say. It's been my experience over the years that one really good in-depth = book is worth several other less expensive books. Generally, videotapes have been less helpful to me than books. Videos = usually have some pithy quotes, some lovely scenery & music, and some = good pictures of artifacts. But a book for the same price has a lot = more information, though it's more work to extract the information. = It's also a lot harder to eat popcorn while pouring over a dense = research book and taking notes! :) --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Conall=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited = budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't = offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video = because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products from = Museum Replicas. =20 Thanks, Conall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually = watched it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but = my VCR's are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working = soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up = and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would = like to have a second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the = three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. Bill (Leifr) ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3B01C.ACA80050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I did hear back from the publisher and, = alas!, they=20 say no paperback copies are available.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 CR Mayhew=20 Comcast Account
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 = 6:57=20 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking = Swrods (was:=20 MR Viking Sword Video Question)

Dear Conall--
 
There is a book entitled Swords = of the=20 Viking Age by Ian Peirce (ISBN0-85115-914-1) which is quite = good.  If=20 you're deeply interested in swords, this catalogue lists excruciating = detail=20 about different swords (dimensions, when made, where found, what = museum now=20 holds it, etc.).  It also categorizes swords according to their = different=20 characteristics.
 
I did a quick search and found it = listed at $85=20 most places, but Barnes & Noble online had it = listed just=20 under $80 w/ free shipping.  I did email the publisher to = see if=20 they have paperback copies.  (I swear I saw a merchant at Pennsic = with a=20 paperback of this book after we'd bought the hardcover...)  I'll = let you=20 know what they say.
 
It's been my experience over the = years that one=20 really good in-depth book is worth several other less expensive=20 books.
 
Generally, videotapes have been = less helpful=20 to me than books.  Videos usually have some pithy quotes, some = lovely=20 scenery & music, and some good pictures of artifacts.  But a = book for=20 the same price has a lot more information, though it's more work to = extract=20 the information.  It's also a lot harder to eat popcorn = while=20 pouring over a dense research book and taking notes!
 
:)
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Conall
Sent: Saturday, November 15, = 2003 4:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR = Viking Sword=20 Video Question

I would appreciate the input.  My family and I are on a = very=20 limited budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper".  I hope = this=20 doesn't offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery = about the=20 video because I have been disappointed with the quality of other = products=20 from Museum Replicas. 
 
        Thanks,
 
    Conall
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet= .co.uk=20
Sent: Saturday, November = 15, 2003=20 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR = Viking=20 Sword Video Question

I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually = watched=20 it.  I would promise to give it the once over this weekend = but my=20 VCR's are not working.  I am planning on trying to get them = working=20 soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for = staying up=20 and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I = would=20 like to have a second look sometime.  If I manage to get one = (of the=20 three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a = synopsis.

 

Bill = (Leifr)

------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C3B01C.ACA80050-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 15:49:45 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:49:45 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: Message-ID: Watching the props was half the fun of that movie (says the summer-spent-doing props person)! I particularly liked that every one of the 13 warriors was dressed in a different time/place type of armor, and some of the pieces were very good...just strange paired together. So close and yet so far. Clearly--my expectations for films are not very high! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: EMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPY To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Re: films If they put the right stuff on extras, the public might become more educated. Alas, education is not the prime goal of the film and TV industry - it's money. --yup, unfortunately that's what happens the odd thing is that filmmakers will dump loads of money into the strangest things. I once read somewhere that when making the 13th Warrior, the folks in charge purposely put all the bad armour in the film as it was what the public wanted to see. They knew it was wrong but did it anyway. Then the turned around and threw alot of cash someone's way to make authentic props like buckets (and other things that slip my mind at this time). I couldn't believe it, but hey at least they were getting something right Halvgrimr _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 16:43:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:57 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: Message-ID: <000401c3b04e$a96c71a0$7900a8c0@field> Speaking of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching the props of the latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we jokingly adapted the title to, 'I have a hoe'. Anyway, about half a mile from the film set was where all the support vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign in the back that read Regia Anglorum. I've always wondered who that person might have been ;-)) Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: films > Watching the props was half the fun of that movie (says the > summer-spent-doing props person)! > > I particularly liked that every one of the 13 warriors was dressed in a > different time/place type of armor, and some of the pieces were very > good...just strange paired together. So close and yet so far. > > Clearly--my expectations for films are not very high! > > --charlotte mayhew > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: EMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPY > To: > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:24 AM > Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Re: films > > > If they put the right stuff on extras, the > public might become more educated. Alas, education is not the prime goal of > the film and TV industry - it's money. > > --yup, unfortunately that's what happens > > the odd thing is that filmmakers will dump loads of money into the strangest > things. > > I once read somewhere that when making the 13th Warrior, the folks in charge > purposely put all the bad armour in the film as it was what the public > wanted to see. They knew it was wrong but did it anyway. Then the turned > around and threw alot of cash someone's way to make authentic props like > buckets (and other things that slip my mind at this time). > > I couldn't believe it, but hey at least they were getting something right > > Halvgrimr > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:02:54 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:02:54 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films Message-ID: <18.386ad6c4.2cef9f3e@aol.com> --part1_18.386ad6c4.2cef9f3e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 21/11/2003 14:16:36 GMT Standard Time, seibhyrt@hotmail.com writes: > I once asked a costume designer why I couldn't wear my kit. She responded > by telling me that she knew that my stuff was right, it was just that the > public were not familliar with it, and would prefer to see the wrong stuff > that they wanted me to wear. Was that Ivanhoe, by any chance? --part1_18.386ad6c4.2cef9f3e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 21/11/2003 14:16:36 GMT Standard Ti= me, seibhyrt@hotmail.com writes:


I once asked a costume designer= why I couldn't wear my kit.  She responded
by telling me that she knew that my stuff was right, it was just that the public were not familliar with it, and would prefer to see the wrong stuff <= BR> that they wanted me to wear.


Was that Ivanhoe, by any chance? --part1_18.386ad6c4.2cef9f3e_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:06:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:06:57 EST Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films Message-ID: <112.2b96674c.2cefa031@aol.com> --part1_112.2b96674c.2cefa031_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 21/11/2003 16:40:01 GMT Standard Time, marfield66@sympatico.ca writes: > Anyway, about half a mile from the film set was where all the support > vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign in the > back that read Regia Anglorum. > I've always wondered who that person might have been ;-)) And thereby hangs many a tale.... of rags and plaits and dubious authenticity.... --part1_112.2b96674c.2cefa031_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 21/11/2003 16:40:01 GMT Standard Ti= me, marfield66@sympatico.ca writes:


Anyway, about half a mile from=20= the film set was where all the support
vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign in the back that read Regia Anglorum.
I've always wondered who that person might have been  ;-))
=

And thereby hangs many a tale.... of rags and plaits and dubious authenticit= y.... --part1_112.2b96674c.2cefa031_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:11:46 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:11:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films In-Reply-To: <000401c3b04e$a96c71a0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <20031121171146.37496.qmail@web25009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-2124664210-1069434706=:37069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ivanhoe,where the first aid co-ordinator had to threaten the director to get the extras {us lot} some water.The cast were fine,the crew was fine,the horses were fine but the extras had to endure 90 degree heat.Except me,i'd found the refreshments early on & had foolishly presumed that they were there for everyone so i'd helped myself.I still remember the tilt scene in which i appeared in the crowd i could see my balding head shining through the crowds. I didn't think much of the programme either but it was shot in a nice part of England. Regards, Mik Martin Field wrote: Speaking of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching the props of the latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we jokingly adapted the title to, 'I have a hoe'. Anyway, about half a mile from the film set was where all the support vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign in the back that read Regia Anglorum. I've always wondered who that person might have been ;-)) Martin Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-2124664210-1069434706=:37069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ivanhoe,where the first aid co-ordinator had to threaten the director to get the extras {us lot} some water.The cast were fine,the crew was fine,the horses were fine but the extras had to endure 90 degree heat.Except me,i'd found the refreshments early on & had foolishly presumed that they were there for everyone so i'd helped myself.I still remember the tilt scene in which i appeared in the crowd i could see my balding head shining through the crowds.
I didn't think much of the programme either but it was shot in a nice part of England.
Regards,
Mik

Martin Field <marfield66@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Speaking of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching the props
of the latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we jokingly
adapted the title to, 'I have a hoe'.
Anyway, about half a mile from the film set was where all the support
vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign in the
back that read Regia Anglorum.
I've always wondered who that person might have been ;-))
Martin


Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over

Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-2124664210-1069434706=:37069-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:24:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:24:05 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear Message-ID: The Coppergate cap is, I believe, more like the bashlyks worn by the ancient Scythians, than exactly a coif from middle ages. Anyone got a picture? If you come out to California (or Arizona or Nevada for that matter), you'll quickly seek something - anything - to wear over your head. When sunburn, heatstroke and sunstroke are dangers, would not some kind of headwear become a safety issue? Looking out for the troops, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >My ruling would be "no", as well, if I ever saw a man trying to wear one in >a Regia context - after I stopped laughing. > >Steve > _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:33:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:33:07 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: <20031121171146.37496.qmail@web25009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c3b055$86b62aa0$7900a8c0@field> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3B02B.9D93D760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wrote: Speaking of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching = the props of the latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we = jokingly adapted the title to, 'I have a hoe'. Anyway, about half a mile from the film set was where all the = support vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign = in the back that read Regia Anglorum. I've always wondered who that person might have been ;-)) Martin Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3B02B.9D93D760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<Ivanhoe,where the first aid co-ordinator had to threaten the = director=20 to get the extras {us lot} some water.
What - depriving you of water = ?
Are you sure it wasn't English Heritage = that you=20 were working for - grinn  ;-))
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mik=20 lawson
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 12:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: = films

Ivanhoe,where the first aid co-ordinator had to threaten the = director to=20 get the extras {us lot} some water.The cast were fine,the crew was = fine,the=20 horses were fine but the extras had to endure 90 degree heat.Except = me,i'd=20 found the refreshments early on & had foolishly presumed that they = were=20 there for everyone so i'd helped myself.I still remember the tilt = scene in=20 which i appeared in the crowd i could see my balding head shining = through the=20 crowds.
I didn't think much of the programme either but it was shot in a = nice=20 part of England.
Regards,
Mik

Martin Field = <marfield66@sympatico.ca>=20 wrote:
Speaking=20 of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching the = props
of the=20 latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we = jokingly
adapted=20 the title to, 'I have a hoe'.
Anyway, about half a mile from the = film set=20 was where all the support
vehicles were, amongst which was a = certain=20 Volvo estate with a sign in the
back that read Regia = Anglorum.
I've=20 always wondered who that person might have been=20 ;-))
Martin


Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over

Want to chat instantly with your online=20 friends? Get=20 the FREE Yahoo! Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3B02B.9D93D760-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:29:22 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:29:22 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Cranbrook Viking Exhibit Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C3B02B.1783ECF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Heard a rumor that some Viking re-enactors from Ontario are going to be = at this Exhibit over Thanksgiving weekend. Am wondering if anyone from Regia NA will be part of that? Also, would more demonstrators be welcome? I have a few things I can demo or bring to add to the exhibit. --charlotte mayhew ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C3B02B.1783ECF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Heard a rumor that some Viking = re-enactors from=20 Ontario are going to be at this Exhibit over Thanksgiving = weekend.
 
Am wondering if anyone from Regia NA = will be part=20 of that?
 
Also, would more demonstrators be=20 welcome?
I have a few things I can demo or bring = to add to=20 the exhibit.
 
--charlotte = mayhew
------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C3B02B.1783ECF0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:30:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:30:11 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear Message-ID: If you come out to California (or Arizona or Nevada for that matter), = you'll=20 quickly seek something - anything - to wear over your head.=20 --yeah, just ask Pete about this!;) He was looking like Rudolph there for a while;) I don't think the Brits were prepared for a Midwestern Summer when they = came over in June. And temps were about 10 degrees cooler than normal;) H From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 17:36:21 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:36:21 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear References: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01C3B02C.119FF0D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a very good photo that I believe Hazel (or maybe Vara) posted years ago. It's attached here, but I suspect the attachment will get deleted. If anyone wants me to email it to them directly, please let me know. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: ESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDA To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear > The Coppergate cap is, I believe, more like the bashlyks worn by the ancient > Scythians, than exactly a coif from middle ages. 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It's not a rumour, it's true! Here's the Cranbrook website: http://www.cranbrook.edu/institute/exhibits/full_circle.shtml And the website for the group doing the demo: http://www.pipcom.com/~darc And Darrell Markowitz's Unofficial World of the Norse webpage: http://home.golden.net/~wareham/worldnorse/ Darrell is the man behind the exhibit and the demonstration. > Am wondering if anyone from Regia NA will be part of that? I don't believe that any of the DARC folks who are on tap to do the demo are also members of Regia, although there is some overlap in the broader DARC community. > Also, would more demonstrators be welcome? > I have a few things I can demo or bring to add to the exhibit. Thank you, but the DARC group has lots of demonstrators on hand already. We don't need any more bodies. However, please do feel free to dress mundanely and identify yourself as a fellow re-enactor and talk to us about it while we're there! I'll be the one peering intently at my warp-weighted loom in the lobby. I've really got to get contacts for these gigs someday! Karen :) --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 18:06:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Boulton) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:06:47 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear References: Message-ID: <008b01c3b05a$45eef7e0$13156751@duron800> > I have a very good photo that I believe Hazel (or maybe Vara) posted years > ago. It's attached here, but I suspect the attachment will get deleted. If > anyone wants me to email it to them directly, please let me know. Thanks for posting that - first time I've seen a good pic of it. Looks like it's folded back - like some of the tudor ladies headgear I've seen in pics and on re-enactors.....what think? Chris. From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 18:19:48 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:19:48 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear References: <008b01c3b05a$45eef7e0$13156751@duron800> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01C3B032.238A5EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're very welcome! I don't think it's folded back--the display head it's on is clear plastic, which makes it confusing to look at. You can see part of the inside through the display head. There's another good photo of it from a side angle in Richard Hall's The Viking Dig, which shows what Thora said about it not really being big enough for an adult's head: Hope this helps! --charlotte mayhew p.s. Again, if the pic doesn't come through, let me know and I'll send it off-list. ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: SKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQH To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear > > I have a very good photo that I believe Hazel (or maybe Vara) posted years > > ago. It's attached here, but I suspect the attachment will get deleted. > If > > anyone wants me to email it to them directly, please let me know. > > Thanks for posting that - first time I've seen a good pic of it. 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LOL I'm really hoping things ease up early Monday a.m., as I have to get back to Salt Lake City, UT. Luke is having another surgery to implant more probes deeper into his brain. Every time they do something, I have to hold myself in check, or I'd be panicking. Dealing w/ lousy roads is not my idea of fun, right now. BUT, you are so right about headgear! Something to keep sunstroke at bay in the summer & something very warm & wind-resistant in the winter......... I really need a luscious felted cap for winter................ hmmmmm Jennifer From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 18:32:01 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:32:01 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Cranbrook Viking Exhibit References: <20031121175158.8BEF1D8038@samus.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: Dear Karen-- Ah--I was carefully examining the loom last weekend (well, as closely as I could from behind the rope barrier)! Very nice weaving on it too! I wondered about your wool combs (assuming they're yours)--are they handmade? Very cool! Sounds like I should come ask a ton of questions next weekend... :) Thanks! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: KSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNB To: Cc: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Cranbrook Viking Exhibit > > Heard a rumor that some Viking re-enactors from Ontario are going to be > > at this Exhibit over Thanksgiving weekend. > > It's not a rumour, it's true! > > Here's the Cranbrook website: > http://www.cranbrook.edu/institute/exhibits/full_circle.shtml > > And the website for the group doing the demo: > http://www.pipcom.com/~darc > > And Darrell Markowitz's Unofficial World of the Norse webpage: > http://home.golden.net/~wareham/worldnorse/ > > Darrell is the man behind the exhibit and the demonstration. > > > Am wondering if anyone from Regia NA will be part of that? > > I don't believe that any of the DARC folks who are on tap to do the demo > are also members of Regia, although there is some overlap in the broader > DARC community. > > > Also, would more demonstrators be welcome? > > I have a few things I can demo or bring to add to the exhibit. > > Thank you, but the DARC group has lots of demonstrators on hand already. We > don't need any more bodies. > > However, please do feel free to dress mundanely and identify yourself as a > fellow re-enactor and talk to us about it while we're there! > > I'll be the one peering intently at my warp-weighted loom in the lobby. > I've really got to get contacts for these gigs someday! > > Karen :) > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 18:41:46 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:41:46 GMT Subject: [Regia-NA] Cranbrook Viking Exhibit Message-ID: <20031121184146.D8CA0D8038@samus.dreamhost.com> > Dear Karen-- > > Ah--I was carefully examining the loom last weekend (well, as closely as I > could from behind the rope barrier)! Very nice weaving on it too! > > I wondered about your wool combs (assuming they're yours)--are they > handmade? Very cool! The stuff in the exhibit actually belongs to another member of the group who will be in that area of the exhibit with her loom. She's loaned it for the duration of the exhibit. Mine is travelling with me. The combs are handmade - I believe that Darrell made them. I'm still waiting for my man to make me a set. > Sounds like I should come ask a ton of questions next weekend... :) Cool....see ya there then. :) Karen --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 18:53:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Boulton) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:53:56 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear References: <008b01c3b05a$45eef7e0$13156751@duron800> Message-ID: <00b801c3b060$d447cc50$13156751@duron800> > I don't think it's folded back--the display head it's on is clear plastic, > which makes it confusing to look at. You can see part of the inside through > the display head. Ah yes - that's clear now. Didn't realise the head was clear plastic. Thanks! Cheers, Chris. From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 19:04:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:04:40 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: <20031121171146.37496.qmail@web25009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <001201c3b055$86b62aa0$7900a8c0@field> Message-ID: <00b901c3b062$52aa9360$d03e7ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C3B062.511F5F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable there by hangs another tail of Stve Wibberly removing the sharp axe from = my hand befor I took the custodian's head from his shoulders after he = had refused to let me have water for the kids when the temp was over = 100:) It took 2 warriors to disarm me and they went for water with the threat = that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let me out again:)) Ahh the joys of working for EH vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Martin Field=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: films wrote: Speaking of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching = the props of the latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we = jokingly adapted the title to, 'I have a hoe'. Anyway, about half a mile from the film set was where all the = support vehicles were, amongst which was a certain Volvo estate with a = sign in the back that read Regia Anglorum. I've always wondered who that person might have been ;-)) Martin Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C3B062.511F5F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
there by hangs another tail of Stve = Wibberly=20 removing the sharp axe from my hand befor I took the custodian's head = from his=20 shoulders after he had refused to let me have water for the kids when = the temp=20 was over 100:)
It took 2 warriors to disarm me and = they went for=20 water with the threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let = me out=20 again:))
Ahh the joys of working for = EH
vara
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Martin=20 Field
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 5:33=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: = films

<Ivanhoe,where the first aid co-ordinator had to threaten the = director=20 to get the extras {us lot} some water.
What - depriving you of water = ?
Are you sure it wasn't English = Heritage that you=20 were working for - grinn  ;-))
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mik=20 lawson
Sent: Friday, November 21, = 2003 12:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: = films

Ivanhoe,where the first aid co-ordinator had to threaten the = director=20 to get the extras {us lot} some water.The cast were fine,the crew = was=20 fine,the horses were fine but the extras had to endure 90 degree = heat.Except=20 me,i'd found the refreshments early on & had foolishly presumed = that=20 they were there for everyone so i'd helped myself.I still remember = the tilt=20 scene in which i appeared in the crowd i could see my balding head = shining=20 through the crowds.
I didn't think much of the programme either but it was shot in = a nice=20 part of England.
Regards,
Mik

Martin Field = <marfield66@sympatico.ca>=20 wrote:
Speaking=20 of watching props, about six years ago I recall watching the = props
of=20 the latest two-part TV adaptation of Ivanhoe (of which we=20 jokingly
adapted the title to, 'I have a hoe'.
Anyway, about = half a=20 mile from the film set was where all the support
vehicles were, = amongst=20 which was a certain Volvo estate with a sign in the
back that = read=20 Regia Anglorum.
I've always wondered who that person might have = been=20 ;-))
Martin


Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take = over

Want to chat instantly with your online=20 friends? Get=20 the FREE Yahoo! = Messenger
------=_NextPart_000_00B4_01C3B062.511F5F80-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 19:14:08 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:14:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films In-Reply-To: <00b901c3b062$52aa9360$d03e7ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031121191408.4857.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-975443294-1069442048=:4662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmm you know vara, hearing the various tales about your renowned ferocity when crossed......... i am beginning to wonder if it was not the Vikings womenfolk who truly struck fear into the hearts of the people they raided.. Just a passing thought you know... kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: there by hangs another tail of Stve Wibberly removing the sharp axe from my hand befor I took the custodian's head from his shoulders after he had refused to let me have water for the kids when the temp was over 100:) It took 2 warriors to disarm me and they went for water with the threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let me out again:)) Ahh the joys of working for EH vara --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-975443294-1069442048=:4662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hmm you know vara, hearing the various tales  about your renowned ferocity when crossed......... i am beginning to wonder if it was not the Vikings womenfolk who truly struck fear into the hearts of the  people they raided.. Just a passing thought you know...
 
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
there by hangs another tail of Stve Wibberly removing the sharp axe from my hand befor I took the custodian's head from his shoulders after he had refused to let me have water for the kids when the temp was over 100:)
It took 2 warriors to disarm me and they went for water with the threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let me out again:))
Ahh the joys of working for EH
vara
 

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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-975443294-1069442048=:4662-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 18:18:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (guthroth) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:18:14 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear References: Message-ID: <0d8e01c3b064$d393c1c0$719e8351@user> Oh, Yes. Headgear is a must. Of course, the fact that I was sitting in a lake drinking beer at teh time had no bearing on the matter at all...... Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schuster, Robert L." To: Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear If you come out to California (or Arizona or Nevada for that matter), you'll quickly seek something - anything - to wear over your head. --yeah, just ask Pete about this!;) He was looking like Rudolph there for a while;) I don't think the Brits were prepared for a Midwestern Summer when they came over in June. And temps were about 10 degrees cooler than normal;) H _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 19:27:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:27:28 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: <20031121191408.4857.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010601c3b065$80fdad80$d03e7ad5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C3B065.801BD900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried soft and gentle..didn't work. Anyway the women were the reason = the men left home:) vara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kathy=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: films Hmm you know vara, hearing the various tales about your renowned = ferocity when crossed......... i am beginning to wonder if it was not = the Vikings womenfolk who truly struck fear into the hearts of the = people they raided.. Just a passing thought you know... kathy=20 Hrolf Douglasson wrote: there by hangs another tail of Stve Wibberly removing the sharp axe = from my hand befor I took the custodian's head from his shoulders after = he had refused to let me have water for the kids when the temp was over = 100:) It took 2 warriors to disarm me and they went for water with the = threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let me out again:)) Ahh the joys of working for EH vara -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C3B065.801BD900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I tried soft and gentle..didn't work. = Anyway the=20 women were the reason the men left home:)
vara
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kathy =
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 = 7:14=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: = films

Hmm you know vara, hearing the various tales  about your = renowned=20 ferocity when crossed......... i am beginning to wonder if it was not = the=20 Vikings womenfolk who truly struck fear into the hearts of the  = people=20 they raided.. Just a passing thought you know...
 
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com>= =20 wrote:
there by hangs another tail of Stve = Wibberly=20 removing the sharp axe from my hand befor I took the custodian's = head from=20 his shoulders after he had refused to let me have water for the kids = when=20 the temp was over 100:)
It took 2 warriors to disarm me and = they went=20 for water with the threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they = would let=20 me out again:))
Ahh the joys of working for = EH
vara
 

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= Free=20 Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C3B065.801BD900-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 19:36:49 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Kathy) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:36:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films In-Reply-To: <010601c3b065$80fdad80$d03e7ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <20031121193649.13743.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> --0-2007106582-1069443409=:13564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii chuckle.. figured that was safer eh.. kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: I tried soft and gentle..didn't work. Anyway the women were the reason the men left home:) vara ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy To: list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: films Hmm you know vara, hearing the various tales about your renowned ferocity when crossed......... i am beginning to wonder if it was not the Vikings womenfolk who truly struck fear into the hearts of the people they raided.. Just a passing thought you know... kathy Hrolf Douglasson wrote: there by hangs another tail of Stve Wibberly removing the sharp axe from my hand befor I took the custodian's head from his shoulders after he had refused to let me have water for the kids when the temp was over 100:) It took 2 warriors to disarm me and they went for water with the threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let me out again:)) Ahh the joys of working for EH vara --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-2007106582-1069443409=:13564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

chuckle..   figured that was safer eh.. 
kathy
Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
I tried soft and gentle..didn't work. Anyway the women were the reason the men left home:)
vara
----- Original Message -----
From: Kathy
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Re: films

Hmm you know vara, hearing the various tales  about your renowned ferocity when crossed......... i am beginning to wonder if it was not the Vikings womenfolk who truly struck fear into the hearts of the  people they raided.. Just a passing thought you know...
 
kathy

Hrolf Douglasson <Hrolf@btinternet.com> wrote:
there by hangs another tail of Stve Wibberly removing the sharp axe from my hand befor I took the custodian's head from his shoulders after he had refused to let me have water for the kids when the temp was over 100:)
It took 2 warriors to disarm me and they went for water with the threat that if the problem wasn't sorted they would let me out again:))
Ahh the joys of working for EH
vara
 

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Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now --0-2007106582-1069443409=:13564-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 19:31:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J Hill) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:31:50 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: <20031121191408.4857.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> <010601c3b065$80fdad80$d03e7ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <002e01c3b066$1d9e1d00$01fea8c0@yourn3ty7athd5> ROFL Hmmm So, THAT is why my hubby leaves so regularly for work................ Jennifer SNIP: I tried soft and gentle..didn't work. Anyway the women were the reason the men left home:) vara From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 20:31:59 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hazel Uzzell) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:31:59 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear References: <008b01c3b05a$45eef7e0$13156751@duron800> Message-ID: <00a301c3b06e$83da0360$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Hi Folks, I posted it, and it isn't folded back! Hazel From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 22 05:41:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:41:47 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear Message-ID: <0C786DAD.0089FDCA.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Greetings, MTCW Down here in the Sonoran desert, the metro Phoenix area, Tucson, etc. Hats are a safety issue and we encourage everyone to wear them or use umbrellas of some sort. They are not authentic for anywhere in northern Europe that I know of (you can make a case for parts of the Arabian peninsula)but sunburn, heat exhaustion and sun stroke are real dangers and none of those ailments are fun. I am talking about hats with brims, large brims that shade your face and neck anything less is close to useless. Eileen "Douglas Sunlin" wrote: >The Coppergate cap is, I believe, more like the bashlyks worn by the ancient >Scythians, than exactly a coif from middle ages. Anyone got a picture? > >If you come out to California (or Arizona or Nevada for that matter), you'll >quickly seek something - anything - to wear over your head. When sunburn, >heatstroke and sunstroke are dangers, would not some kind of headwear become >a safety issue? __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 22 06:01:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jan Ward) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:01:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Hats and headgear In-Reply-To: <0C786DAD.0089FDCA.D3176DFB@netscape.net> Message-ID: <20031122060112.52350.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Hats are a definite necessity in California, too. I have seen them worn over coifs, or with veils pinned over. When you live where triple-digit temperatures can persist into October, shade of some sort is a must. Edwinna __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 22 10:05:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Boulton) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:05:13 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: films References: <20031121191408.4857.qmail@web42002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004f01c3b0e0$1effcf70$13156751@duron800> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C3B0E0.1EE45830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes....there came Thorbold, great leader, mighty was he, with 300 ships = to Thanet. Give us geld, quoth he, or we'll let the womenfolk off the = ships..... Argh no! Quoth Aethelraed, take this pile of silver to make baubles for = them and go! We only just managed to find where they'd put everything = the last time they tidied up! Chris. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C3B0E0.1EE45830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes....there came Thorbold, great = leader, mighty=20 was he, with 300 ships to Thanet. Give us geld, quoth he, or we'll let = the=20 womenfolk off the ships.....
 
Argh no! Quoth Aethelraed, take this = pile of silver=20 to make baubles for them and go! We only just managed to find where = they'd put=20 everything the last time they tidied up!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C3B0E0.1EE45830-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 23 12:31:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:31:00 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - E-bay item Message-ID: <047f01c3b1bd$a7625300$11702052@kim1> You will so enjoy this. Read your way through the description and then the additional comments. And he STILL sold it! Ebay item # 2442354423 Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 23 13:18:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:18:58 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - what's buried in YOUR garden? References: <047f01c3b1bd$a7625300$11702052@kim1> Message-ID: <050501c3b1c4$5abd2f00$11702052@kim1> http://cryptome.org/iraq-mig.htm Takes a while to download as there are lots of pictures, but it's a good one! Regards, Kim From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 23 14:41:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:41:28 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] The sort of stuff I get sometimes ......... References: Message-ID: <054701c3b1cf$e1310a60$11702052@kim1> Arrrgh.......... Regards, Kim PS. Now I come to look, this mail is dated August the 8th & it's just arrived. This etheric means of communication is getting more like the Post Office every day. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LE MOIGNET Alexandre" To: Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: Hi! I AM THE BLACK WIZARD. MY WISDOM IS INFINITE. MY EMPIRES HAVE NO LIMITS. I AM THE SPIRIT OF THEIR EXISTENCE I COME BACK FOR YA! MY NAME IS LE MOIGNET ALEXANDRE FROM FRANCE AND I AM A TRUE VIKING! :) NICE TO MEET YOU! Ehwaz Nauthiz Othala Algiz (personnality) Inguz(stability) Dagaz Ansuz Kenaz Fehu Manaz Isa(destiny) From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 23 20:50:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jack Garrett) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:50:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: [California_Viking_Age] Ski's and skates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031123205011.56190.qmail@web80202.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1468774263-1069620611=:55678 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Although the shoe and skate were obviously placed together just for this photo, this might be helpful. (From "What Life Was Like When Longships Sailed") Jack/Ottar "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: some one recently posed me this question: Hi Halvgrimr! Can I ask you to search in your library any information about Viking skis and skates for me. Our club plans to organize winter maneuvers in a forest this year, so skis (in Russia snow very deep) will be necessary for us. I shall be glad to any information as text article or just pictures. in don't really have any info on either of these subjects and was wondering if yall might be able to help me point him in the right direction I know that Finnr (damn I miss that man!) had done some work with skates, any of you Manx members know the source of that work? Halvgrimr ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs from home. Over 14,500 titles. Free Shipping & No Late Fees. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/mk9osC/hP.FAA/3jkFAA/PJ_qlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> <><><> <><><> <><><> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: California_Viking_Age-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --0-1468774263-1069620611=:55678 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Although the shoe and skate were obviously placed together just for this photo, this might be helpful.  (From "What Life Was Like When Longships Sailed")
 
Jack/Ottar

"Schuster, Robert L." <SchusterRL@umsystem.edu> wrote:
some one recently posed me this question:

Hi Halvgrimr!
Can I ask you to search in your library any information about Viking skis and skates for me. Our club plans to organize winter maneuvers in a forest this year, so skis (in Russia snow very deep) will be necessary for us. I shall be glad to any information as text article or just pictures.

in don't really have any info on either of these subjects and was wondering if yall might be able to help me point him in the right direction
I know that Finnr (damn I miss that man!) had done some work with skates, any of you Manx members know the source of that work?
Halvgrimr



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--0-1468774263-1069620611=:55678-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 23 22:37:23 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:37:23 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - what's buried in YOUR garden? Message-ID: Ah, the underground airforce. Certainly not the kind of air force that would have wings, no. >From: "J K Siddorn" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: ,"Regia UK E-group" >CC: "Regia US E-group" >Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - what's buried in YOUR garden? >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 13:18:58 -0000 > >http://cryptome.org/iraq-mig.htm > >Takes a while to download as there are lots of pictures, but it's a good >one! > >Regards, > > >Kim > > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 03:42:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:42:20 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - what's buried in YOUR garden? Message-ID: <24239200.1069645340152.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005> ------=_Part_5402_1748341.1069645340149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To me it's obvious...the Iraqis didn't bury that...it was blasted into the dirt so far by a JDAM that the hole collapsed in on itself. :o) Bill ------=_Part_5402_1748341.1069645340149 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To me it's obvious...the Iraqis didn't bury that...it was blasted into the dirt so far by a JDAM that the hole collapsed in on itself.  :o)

 

Bill

------=_Part_5402_1748341.1069645340149-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 09:51:23 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:51:23 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E4966@MAILSERVER-UK> Hi There is regular discussion on whether this or that sword is suitable = for Vikings/Regia style combat, and over the weekend I was sent an on-line = link to these guys. http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html >From the description and photos they look good, the weight is about = right, and I wonder if anyone in Leftpondia has handled, used or bought one = and would like to offer their opinion. The price is about right for a UK made blade (as claimed) and from the = look of them I think I might know who the manufacturer is (not Paul Binns). Comments folks ? Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" J.R.R. Tolkien From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 10:24:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:24:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - what's buried in YOUR garden? In-Reply-To: <24239200.1069645340152.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005> Message-ID: <20031124102455.4286.qmail@web25003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1900429582-1069669495=:3802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just to be mean they buried they wings elsewhere? mik VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk wrote: To me it's obvious...the Iraqis didn't bury that...it was blasted into the dirt so far by a JDAM that the hole collapsed in on itself. :o) Bill Heaven doesn't want me & Hell is afraid i'll take over --------------------------------- Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger --0-1900429582-1069669495=:3802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just to be mean they buried they wings elsewhere?
mik

VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

To me it's obvious...the Iraqis didn't bury that...it was blasted into the dirt so far by a JDAM that the hole collapsed in on itself.  :o)

 

Bill



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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1900429582-1069669495=:3802-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 14:32:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:32:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: <14008463.1069684377479.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> ------=_Part_8002_10420336.1069684377476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Look like the Paul Chen swords. Bill Message date : Nov 24 2003, 09:51 AM=20 >From : Pete James=20 To : 'The-Vikings-List@yahoogroups.com' , 'list-regia-na@lig.net' , 'Califo= rnia_Viking_Age@yahoogroups.com'=20 Copy to :=20 Subject : [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords=20 Hi=20 There is regular discussion on whether this or that sword is suitable for= =20 Vikings/Regia style combat, and over the weekend I was sent an on-line link= =20 to these guys.=20 http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html=20 >From the description and photos they look good, the weight is about right,= =20 and I wonder if anyone in Leftpondia has handled, used or bought one and=20 would like to offer their opinion.=20 The price is about right for a UK made blade (as claimed) and from the look= =20 of them I think I might know who the manufacturer is (not Paul Binns).=20 Comments folks ?=20 Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm=20 "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books"=20 J.R.R. Tolkien=20 _______________________________________________=20 list-regia-na mailing list=20 list-regia-na@lig.net=20 http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_8002_10420336.1069684377476 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Look like the Paul Chen swords.

Bill



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Copy to :
Subject : [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords
Hi

Th= ere is regular discussion on whether this or that sword is suitable for Vikings/Regia style combat, and over the weekend I was sent an on-line lin= k
to these guys.

http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Stee= l.html

From the description and photos they look good, the weight i= s about right,
and I wonder if anyone in Leftpondia has handled, used o= r bought one and
would like to offer their opinion.

The price i= s about right for a UK made blade (as claimed) and from the look
of the= m I think I might know who the manufacturer is (not Paul Binns).

Co= mments folks ?

Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm

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------=_Part_8002_10420336.1069684377476-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 14:37:36 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:37:36 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E496E@MAILSERVER-UK> They might be but the site says made in UK so I don't think so. I think they look a bit like Armour Class. Pete -----Original Message----- From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk [mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:33 PM To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Look like the Paul Chen swords. Bill Message date : Nov 24 2003, 09:51 AM=20 >From : Pete James=20 To : 'The-Vikings-List@yahoogroups.com' , 'list-regia-na@lig.net' , 'California_Viking_Age@yahoogroups.com'=20 Copy to :=20 Subject : [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords=20 Hi=20 There is regular discussion on whether this or that sword is suitable = for=20 Vikings/Regia style combat, and over the weekend I was sent an on-line = link=20 to these guys.=20 http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html=20 >From the description and photos they look good, the weight is about = right,=20 and I wonder if anyone in Leftpondia has handled, used or bought one = and=20 would like to offer their opinion.=20 The price is about right for a UK made blade (as claimed) and from the = look=20 of them I think I might know who the manufacturer is (not Paul Binns).=20 Comments folks ?=20 Gu=F0ro=F0 Of Colanhomm=20 "Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books"=20 J.R.R. Tolkien=20 _______________________________________________=20 list-regia-na mailing list=20 list-regia-na@lig.net=20 http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na=20 From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 14:35:43 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:35:43 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] RE: [California_Viking_Age] Ski's and skates Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B298.3DB287BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have actually just accidentally run across and article on the subject = too. Stumbled upon it while looking for something else but thanks for the = info, I will try to hunt that book down =20 Halvgrimr =20 -----Original Message----- From: Jack Garrett [mailto:garrett@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:50 PM To: California_Viking_Age@yahoogroups.com; Kunskapen_Soka (E-mail); = List-Regia-Us (E-mail); Newvarangianguard (E-mail); Norsefolk (E-mail); = TheManx (E-mail); The-Vikings-List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [California_Viking_Age] Ski's and skates Although the shoe and skate were obviously placed together just for this = photo, this might be helpful. (From "What Life Was Like When Longships = Sailed") =20 Jack/Ottar "Schuster, Robert L." wrote: some one recently posed me this question: Hi Halvgrimr!=20 Can I ask you to search in your library any information about Viking = skis and skates for me. Our club plans to organize winter maneuvers in a = forest this year, so skis (in Russia snow very deep) will be necessary = for us. I shall be glad to any information as text article or just = pictures.=20 in don't really have any info on either of these subjects and was = wondering if yall might be able to help me point him in the right = direction I know that Finnr (damn I miss that man!) had done some work with = skates, any of you Manx members know the source of that work? Halvgrimr ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Rent DVDs from home. Over 14,500 titles. Free Shipping & No Late Fees. Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/mk9osC/hP.FAA/3jkFAA/PJ_qlB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> <><><> <><><> <><><> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: California_Viking_Age-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to = http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/=20 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=09 ADVERTISEMENT = click here=09 = =09 <><><> <><><> <><><> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: California_Viking_Age-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service = .=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B298.3DB287BF Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have=20 actually just accidentally run across and article on the subject=20 too.
Stumbled upon it while looking for something else but thanks = for the=20 info, I will try to hunt that book down
 
Halvgrimr
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Garrett=20 [mailto:garrett@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 = 2:50=20 PM
To: California_Viking_Age@yahoogroups.com; Kunskapen_Soka = (E-mail);=20 List-Regia-Us (E-mail); Newvarangianguard (E-mail); Norsefolk (E-mail); = TheManx=20 (E-mail); The-Vikings-List (E-mail)
Subject: Re:=20 [California_Viking_Age] Ski's and skates

Although the shoe and skate were obviously placed together just for = this=20 photo, this might be helpful.  (From "What Life Was Like When = Longships=20 Sailed")
 
Jack/Ottar

"Schuster, Robert L."=20 <SchusterRL@umsystem.edu> wrote:
some=20 one recently posed me this question:

Hi Halvgrimr!
Can I = ask you to=20 search in your library any information about Viking skis and skates = for me.=20 Our club plans to organize winter maneuvers in a forest this year, so = skis (in=20 Russia snow very deep) will be necessary for us. I shall be glad to = any=20 information as text article or just pictures.

in don't really = have any=20 info on either of these subjects and was wondering if yall might be = able to=20 help me point him in the right direction
I know that Finnr (damn I = miss=20 that man!) had done some work with skates, any of you Manx members = know the=20 source of that = work?
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3B298.3DB287BF-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 15:10:02 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Gareth Evans) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:10:02 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: I don't think they are Armour class, as the site says that the pommels are either threaded, and screwed on or held in place by a nut. As far as I know from all of the swords that Bodge and co do they only screw fix the latter swords (ie Rapiers etc). All the Dark age stuff is Riveted on. They also have there own website and post. (http://www.armourclass.co.uk/ ) All the best Goose -----Original Message----- From: Pete James [mailto:peter@citizen.co.uk] Sent: 24 November 2003 14:38 To: 'list-regia-na@lig.net' Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords They might be but the site says made in UK so I don't think so. I think they look a bit like Armour Class. Pete This line certifies that this message has been scanned for the presense of viruses. Using McAfee Groupshield. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Labgear Ltd. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 15:34:37 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Green Shield) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:34:37 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: I have the PC12 sword. As a matter of fact I bought it at H2K and it is identical to the sword shown on that site. It is light and fast and flexes well and would work well for steel combat. It also held up very well and Hastings 2003. GreenShield Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. >From: Pete James >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: "'The-Vikings-List@yahoogroups.com'" >,"'list-regia-na@lig.net'" >,"'California_Viking_Age@yahoogroups.com'" > >Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 09:51:23 -0000 > >Hi > >There is regular discussion on whether this or that sword is suitable for >Vikings/Regia style combat, and over the weekend I was sent an on-line link >to these guys. > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html > >From the description and photos they look good, the weight is about right, >and I wonder if anyone in Leftpondia has handled, used or bought one and >would like to offer their opinion. > >The price is about right for a UK made blade (as claimed) and from the look >of them I think I might know who the manufacturer is (not Paul Binns). > >Comments folks ? > >Guðroð Of Colanhomm > >"Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books" >J.R.R. Tolkien >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 16:28:33 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Russ Holmes) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:28:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests In-Reply-To: <20031121184146.D8CA0D8038@samus.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <20031124162833.36700.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings all!!! After spending this past weekend in Bill Tate's House O' Chests, I am inspired to make some. However, other than the mastermyr (which is already on the list) what type of shapes are acceptable? The "Viking" style with angled legs? Normal six board chest (with or without legs)? Any input would be greatly apprecaited!!! Russ Holmes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 16:44:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Steve Etheridge) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:44:58 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: >From: Pete James >There is regular discussion on whether this or that sword is suitable for >Vikings/Regia style combat, and over the weekend I was sent an on-line link >to these guys. > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html If they are from the manufacturer that they look like... Well, the blades will be of very good quality in terms of strength and spring. The handles are good and solid. However, watch for the hilts - examples such as PC-12, for instance, have very pointed ends to the crossguard. Authentic, and quite dangerous to you opponent - well able to take out an eye. I have seen one balanced on it's tip fall under it's own weight and embed itself into a floor. After that, we banned them. The other safety issue is the fact that the blades look pointed at the end - again, authentic, but potentially dangerous. This is odd, as the examples of this manufacturer that I have seen have all had rounded ends - if, of course, it is the smithy that I have been thinking of. It's difficult to MaA dep and AO using only web info. I believe that this smithy does Regia approved blades anyway, so you _might_ be able to get a good one. Again, it's always caveat emptor Steve _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 16:54:25 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 16:54:25 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: > > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html >=20 Also note that the sword-belts are not accurate for our purposes. One = and a half inch wide is too wide for most belts in our period [unless, off = course, you like wearing horse harness]. Gu=F0rum From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 17:02:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Pete James) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:02:56 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: <6170C7F0E7C6D51184F000C0CA193CEB5E497E@MAILSERVER-UK> Well, I never even considered the sword belt or sheath, just the actual weapon. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Nicholson, Andrew [mailto:andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:54 PM To: 'list-regia-na@lig.net' Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords > > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/Live_Steel.html >=20 Also note that the sword-belts are not accurate for our purposes. One = and a half inch wide is too wide for most belts in our period [unless, off = course, you like wearing horse harness]. Gu=F0rum _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 17:05:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:05:38 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords Message-ID: > Well, I never even considered the sword belt or sheath, just > the actual weapon. > Hi Pete, That's because you've not been an Authenticity Officer and had to keep tabs on the tiniest details :) [remember pouches]. Since the company said they were throwing in free fittings, I thought someone ought to comment - and since my esteemed successor hadn't mentioned it in his posting... G. From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 17:46:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Cory Nielsen) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:46:12 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Suitable Swords In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20031124174612.19176.qmail@earth.connect2.com> Just a small detail that others have probably already noticed: The item #'s for all these swords begin with "PC". Does that indicate that they are Paul Chen products? Cory From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 18:16:41 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (guthroth) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:16:41 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords References: Message-ID: <022a01c3b2b7$438bcaa0$935e7ad5@user> Andy, as you probably know I am an authenticity officer, albeit not in Regia. My standards are as good as any Regia set, but since leather scabbards or sheaths never formed part of the original question, I regarded it as unnecsary to even bring the subject up. I am merely concerned wito answer a specific question. As a rule of thumb, anything you get 'free' is worth every penny you pay for it :D Pete - Guðroð of Colanhomm Literature stops in 1100. After that it's just books J.R.R. Tolkien ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholson, Andrew" To: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Suitable Swords > > Well, I never even considered the sword belt or sheath, just > > the actual weapon. > > > Hi Pete, > > That's because you've not been an Authenticity Officer and had to keep tabs > on the tiniest details :) > [remember pouches]. > > Since the company said they were throwing in free fittings, I thought > someone ought to comment - and since my esteemed successor hadn't mentioned > it in his posting... > > G. > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 18:32:30 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CRMayhew) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:32:30 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests References: <20031124162833.36700.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear Russ-- There's some info on chests/boxes on my webpage: http://www.jomsb.org/Sunnifa/Accessories/Norsewidgets.htm It's a class handout, and was originally in MSWord. We're in the process of translating it over to a program that better suits the web, so sorry for the formatting issues. The first 3 paper pages are on band boxes and other boxes/chests--drawn from all over the Viking Age. Gives you a jumping off point, at any rate, I hope! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests > Greetings all!!! > > After spending this past weekend in Bill Tate's House O' Chests, I am > inspired to make some. However, other than the mastermyr (which is > already on the list) what type of shapes are acceptable? The "Viking" > style with angled legs? Normal six board chest (with or without legs)? > > Any input would be greatly apprecaited!!! > > Russ Holmes > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 18:38:42 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:38:42 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests Message-ID: > Greetings all!!! > > After spending this past weekend in Bill Tate's House O' Chests, I am > inspired to make some. However, other than the mastermyr (which is > already on the list) what type of shapes are acceptable? The "Viking" > style with angled legs? Normal six board chest (with or without = legs)? > > Any input would be greatly apprecaited!!! > > Russ Holmes --this may be useful to you http://www.missouri.edu/~winsloww/archives/chests.htm Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 18:56:15 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Russ Holmes) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:56:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031124185615.39912.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks Charlotte and Halvgrimr!! That's exactly what I was looking for! Russ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 20:38:46 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:38:46 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Suitable Swords Message-ID: I can confirm that these are most certainly NOT Paul Chen swords. On manræden, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >From: "Cory Nielsen" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Suitable Swords >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 10:46:12 -0700 > >Just a small detail that others have probably already noticed: > >The item #'s for all these swords begin with "PC". Does that indicate that >they are Paul Chen products? > >Cory _______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 21:06:18 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (John Lambert) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:06:18 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests Message-ID: Hi Russ, There is also some information, diagrams, and instructions on my web page: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/j_lambert/norman.htm Follow the link to the "small medieval chest" This six-board chest was based on the drawing in the Viking "prune people" book (I'm at work and don't have the reference). I extended the sides to make legs for better use as a seat and to keep the contents dry when camping. The chest is simple to make, but taking the time to find appropriate hardware makes all the difference. John _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Nov 24 23:50:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] A new Viking Ship find Message-ID: <3FC29928.9090003@bellsouth.net> From the land of the weird green sky (and numerous other calamities if you look at their other article titles) A new Viking Ship find may be on the way in Norway: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article.jhtml?articleID=652358 If you're short on amusement (remember the drunken moose) Try Beaver hits bus with a tree. I've seen big beavers but I had no idea they got so large. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 01:26:27 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:26:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests Message-ID: <20985186.1069723587045.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> ------=_Part_17799_14349776.1069723587043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to what you might find convenient. I think avoiding the scallops would be best (John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't find it in the book...can you remember the page?). And he hit the nail squarely...furniture. Can you say forge, boys and girls? Somebody mentioned that this weekend...no who was that? Hmmmm.... Bill Message date : Nov 24 2003, 09:11 PM >From : John Lambert To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] Chests Hi Russ, There is also some information, diagrams, and instructions on my web page: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/j_lambert/norman.htm Follow the link to the "small medieval chest" This six-board chest was based on the drawing in the Viking "prune people" book (I'm at work and don't have the reference). I extended the sides to make legs for better use as a seat and to keep the contents dry when camping. The chest is simple to make, but taking the time to find appropriate hardware makes all the difference. John _________________________________________________________________ Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are always singing on MSN Radio Plus. 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Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to wh= at you might find convenient.  I think avoiding the scallops would be = best (John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't = find it in the book...can you remember the page?).  And he hit the nai= l squarely...furniture.  Can you say forge, boys and girls?  Some= body mentioned that this weekend...no who was that?  Hmmmm....

 

Bill



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Hi Russ,

There is also some informat= ion, diagrams, and instructions on my web page:
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Follow the link to the "small me= dieval chest"

This six-board chest was based on the drawing in the = Viking "prune people"
book (I'm at work and don't have the reference). = I extended the sides to
make legs for better use as a seat and to keep = the contents dry when
camping. The chest is simple to make, but taking = the time to find
appropriate hardware makes all the difference.
John

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------=_Part_17799_14349776.1069723587043-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 02:15:24 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:15:24 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: [RANA-Members] Rolland's Letter to the North American's Part 2 References: <20031016161122.12930.h014.c001.wm@mail.idlh.net.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: <3FC2BB3C.2050202@bellsouth.net> >>From Roland: > > I spent a fair bit of time looking at the traders to > see what was readily at hand. In doing so I collected > some business cards which dont recommend the trader in > any way other than as a source, but just indicates that > they had this item to hand. My comments are my own and > are no way a condemnation. It goes without saying that > in most cases they had other materials to hand as well > that fell out of my area of expertise. > > Thor Thors Hammer. ThorThor McSmyth is his SCA name. > Sean Chappell. NC 27525 ( 919 ) 528-2966. 4022 Hwy. 56, Franklinton, NC 27525; H. 919-528-2966 > thorthor@mindspring.com Had this email address for years now. > This chap is in the early stages of making some really > nice silver and brass/bronze hand wrought and hand made > jewellery, with the odd cast piece. In my opinion he > needs patronising and encouraging with some commissions > from documented finds. Sean is local to me and I've known him about fifteen years. He's half Chinese / half white american and looks a lot like a tall Mongolian usually with thick long black hair. He is a neat guy and an interesting fellow to be around. Do not underestimate the skill or knowledge of this individual. His background in metalwork goes back some ways. He has many expensive research books in great amount (as do I but possibly a few different ones) on metalworking and brooches from the Bronze Age foreward. At the last Pennsic he told me he bought $1500 worth of books and just got the whole series on Illerup Adal on the tremendous bog deposit of circa 4th century weapons, armor, shields there. This amount of purchases is not unusual for him at all. I am often astounded at how he changes his posessions in one lot for another to pursue new interests. We compare notes and books. He buys a lot and tries to make nearly everything that interests him. I've bought some rare books for him at times. The man has very advanced skills in hammering out brass or bronze into brooches. So far he hasn't done much in engraving. You probably haven't seen his whole range over time, nor have I, but it was fairly impressive at times. What he takes to Pennsic is what he thinks will sell there. He's moved some distance from me so I haven't seen his recent house/shop but from our discussions I believe he is pretty well outfitted for most types. He does faceting of gems but I think is relatively new to lapidary on the whole and is exploring further into enamels and inlay. He has some background in blacksmithing techniques and was a member for a while at least with the NC chapter of ABANA.org . He can do forged ended silver twisted and entwined bracelets or torques for example. He has one trick that involves forging square, twisting, and reforging and twisting that amazes me. The effect on the surface of the metal is a bit amazing. I think recently he has attempted making one of the irish torques originally done in gold with the twisted + cross section. I wish I knew a few more of the specialized tricks he's learned and I keep meaning to get over there to watch him some time. I believe right now he may be working two jobs. Spends a lot of time doing deliveries and working at his families Chinese restaurant. He's always been a good and reliable friend to us. I commend him to you. Magnus > Im still here for questions not too non-specific > though. Please dont ask Who were the Vikings? as I will > be rude and ignore you. > > Cheers, Roland. From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 02:23:04 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 03:23:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Message-ID: <326755.1069726984819.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> ------=_Part_21035_8255364.1069726984817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know someone else did a posting, but I thought I might put up my opinion. I thought it was mainly tripe. Certainly it was MR trying to showcase their products, but a lot of the info I thought was ridiculous...like using the point of a kite shield to stab an opponent in the foot. I was equally unimpressed with the cutting demo on the hunk of meat. It didn't prove much...you had Mr. Reinhardt using the full force of his arm (even leaving the ground at times to put so much power into the blow) against a piece of meat sitting on a solid chunk of wood which didn't allow for give. The round shields with arm straps were ridiculous as something like that will change how the shield is employed. And I could nitpick the details...no pants on one warrior, no shield bosses on the kites (now, I could be wrong about that detail myself, but I thought that was a later styling), but it would be best not too. Overall, there are a couple of nuggets...like the leg being a very viable and used blow. But in terms of relation to real combat, I don't think there was any real information. And in realtion to recreation steel combat, it was practically useless. Bill Message date : Nov 15 2003, 10:35 PM >From : Conall To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't offend any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video because I have been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum Replicas. Thanks, Conall style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> ----- Original Message ----- style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: href="mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk To: href="mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working soon, because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the three...thank goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. Bill (Leifr) ------=_Part_21035_8255364.1069726984817 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I know someone else did a posting, but I thought I might put up my opinion.  I thought it was mainly tripe.  Certainly it was MR trying to showcase their products, but a lot of the info I thought was ridiculous...like using the point of a kite shield to stab an opponent in the foot.  I was equally unimpressed with the cutting demo on the hunk of meat.  It didn't prove much...you had Mr. Reinhardt using the full force of his arm (even leaving the ground at times to put so much power into the blow) against a piece of meat sitting on a solid chunk of wood which didn't allow for give.  The round shields with arm straps were ridiculous as something like that will change how the shield is employed.  And I could nitpick the details...no pants on one warrior, no shield bosses on the kites (now, I could be wrong about that detail myself, but I thought that was a later styling), but it would be best not too.

Overall, there are a couple of nuggets...like the leg being a very viable and used blow.  But in terms of relation to real combat, I don't think there was any real information.  And in realtion to recreation steel combat, it was practically useless.

 

Bill



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I would appreciate the input.  My family and I are on a very limited
budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper".  I hope this doesn't offend
any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video because I have
been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum Replicas. 

 

       
Thanks,

 

    Conall

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I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched
it.  I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's
are not working.  I am planning on trying to get them working soon,
because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping
the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a
second look sometime.  If I manage to get one (of the three...thank
goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis.


 


Bill (Leifr)


------=_Part_21035_8255364.1069726984817-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 02:28:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 03:28:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: <1105484.1069727293280.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> ------=_Part_21053_25738373.1069727293278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Eileen, I'm still trying to digest the information. But overall, this paper is pretty good. It has some good detail on period pottery as applies to a Regia context. It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did I miss something?). Some of the shards are attributed to earlier periods, so be careful when reading. Bill Bill ------=_Part_21053_25738373.1069727293278 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Eileen,

 

I'm still trying to digest the information.  But overall, this paper is pretty good.  It has some good detail on period pottery as applies to a Regia context.  It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did I miss something?).  Some of the shards are attributed to earlier periods, so be careful when reading.

 

Bill

 

Bill


------=_Part_21053_25738373.1069727293278-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 02:39:47 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:39:47 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: <326755.1069726984819.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: <002001c3b2fd$65589500$c6870d0c@house> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C3B2CB.199423F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wanted to thank everyone for the reviews of the MR Viking Sword Video. = Taking in consideration all of those replies plus some other info I = found, I have decided to spend my money elsewhere. Thanks again, Conall ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C3B2CB.199423F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    Thanks again,
 
    Conall
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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C3B2CB.199423F0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 09:49:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:49:07 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: <326755.1069726984819.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: <009401c3b339$5e975670$33722052@kim1> On shields - the experiments we did with an ash wood shield in the summer for National Geographic on "Genius of the Vikings" showed that a shield that moved only slightly was sufficient to cause a full force blow with an axe to only scratch the paint. To make it penetrate for camera, we had to more rigidly mount the shield AND turn the grain so it was in line with the blade AND double the force of the blow (calculated by the averaging of ten over-the-shoulder blows against a strain gauged pad placed on a counter top) . Chopping meat is all very well, but if the meat has wit and a planked shield, things may be otherwise ............... Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:23 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question > I know someone else did a posting, but I thought I might put up my opinion. I thought it was mainly tripe. Certainly it was MR trying to showcase their products, but a lot of the info I thought was ridiculous...like using the point of a kite shield to stab an opponent in the foot. I was equally unimpressed with the cutting demo on the hunk of meat. It didn't prove much...you had Mr. Reinhardt using the full force of his arm (even leaving the ground at times to put so much power into the blow) against a piece of meat sitting on a solid chunk of wood which didn't allow for give. The round shields with arm straps were ridiculous as something like that will change how the shield is employed. And I could nitpick the details...no pants on one warrior, no shield bosses on the kites (now, I could be wrong about that detail myself, but I thought that was a later styling), but it would be best not too. > Overall, there are a couple of nuggets...like the leg being a very viable and used blow. But in terms of relation to real combat, I don't think there was any real information. And in realtion to recreation steel combat, it was practically useless. > > Bill > > > > > Message date : Nov 15 2003, 10:35 PM > From : Conall > To : list-regia-na@lig.net > Copy to : > Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited > budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't offend > any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video because I have > been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum Replicas. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Conall > > > style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: > href="mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk > > > > To: href="mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 > AM > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword > Video Question > > > > > > > I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched > it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's > are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working soon, > because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping > the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a > second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the three...thank > goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. > > > > > > Bill (Leifr) From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 10:35:30 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:35:30 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] No viruses? Message-ID: <017501c3b33f$d96b3820$33722052@kim1> Hey, I've just realized, up until a few days ago, I was getting around ten virus warnings a day from Norton as it splatted them, but I've not had one since last week. Spam is about the same (100 a day) but I'm philosophical about it now, it only takes a few minutes to skim through them and sort out the rubbish. What possible good they think it does them, I really cannot imagine. Regards, Kim Siddorn From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 14:36:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Russ Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:36:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests In-Reply-To: <20985186.1069723587045.JavaMail.www@wwinf3004> Message-ID: <20031125143616.85739.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Believe it or not John, I've used your plans many times before. Very well written and easy to follow. Bill, when I mentioned forge, I meant "to forge ahead with projects"... Yeah! That's it! That's what I meant. :) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 14:55:07 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CRMayhew) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 09:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests References: Message-ID: Very nice work there! The finished pieces are handsome! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Lambert" To: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Chests > Hi Russ, > > There is also some information, diagrams, and instructions on my web page: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/j_lambert/norman.htm > Follow the link to the "small medieval chest" > > This six-board chest was based on the drawing in the Viking "prune people" > book (I'm at work and don't have the reference). I extended the sides to > make legs for better use as a seat and to keep the contents dry when > camping. The chest is simple to make, but taking the time to find > appropriate hardware makes all the difference. > > John > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need a shot of Hank Williams or Patsy Cline? The classic country stars are > always singing on MSN Radio Plus. Try one month free! > http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 15:02:25 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:02:25 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Thor Thors Hammer References: <20031016161122.12930.h014.c001.wm@mail.idlh.net.criticalpath.net> <3FC2BB3C.2050202@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: We were *very* impressed with his work this year at Pennsic. His work is dead-on accurate and his prices are very reasonable. Does he have a website yet? I can think of a lot of people who would likely buy his work if they could see it. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVF To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: [RANA-Members] Rolland's Letter to the North American's Part 2 > >>From Roland: > > > > I spent a fair bit of time looking at the traders to > > see what was readily at hand. In doing so I collected > > some business cards which dont recommend the trader in > > any way other than as a source, but just indicates that > > they had this item to hand. My comments are my own and > > are no way a condemnation. It goes without saying that > > in most cases they had other materials to hand as well > > that fell out of my area of expertise. > > > > Thor Thors Hammer. > > ThorThor McSmyth is his SCA name. > > > Sean Chappell. NC 27525 ( 919 ) 528-2966. > > 4022 Hwy. 56, Franklinton, NC 27525; H. 919-528-2966 > > > thorthor@mindspring.com > > Had this email address for years now. > > > This chap is in the early stages of making some really > > nice silver and brass/bronze hand wrought and hand made > > jewellery, with the odd cast piece. In my opinion he > > needs patronising and encouraging with some commissions > > from documented finds. > > Sean is local to me and I've known him about fifteen years. > He's half Chinese / half white american and looks a lot > like a tall Mongolian usually with thick long black hair. > He is a neat guy and an interesting fellow to be around. > > Do not underestimate the skill or knowledge of this individual. > His background in metalwork goes back some ways. > > He has many expensive research books in great amount > (as do I but possibly a few different ones) on metalworking > and brooches from the Bronze Age foreward. > At the last Pennsic he told me he bought $1500 worth of books > and just got the whole series on Illerup Adal on the tremendous > bog deposit of circa 4th century weapons, armor, shields there. > This amount of purchases is not unusual for him at all. > I am often astounded at how he changes his posessions in one > lot for another to pursue new interests. > We compare notes and books. He buys a lot and tries to make > nearly everything that interests him. I've bought some rare > books for him at times. > > The man has very advanced skills in hammering out brass or > bronze into brooches. So far he hasn't done much in engraving. > You probably haven't seen his whole range over time, nor > have I, but it was fairly impressive at times. What he takes > to Pennsic is what he thinks will sell there. > > He's moved some distance from me so I haven't seen his > recent house/shop but from our discussions I believe he is > pretty well outfitted for most types. He does faceting > of gems but I think is relatively new to lapidary on > the whole and is exploring further into enamels and inlay. > > He has some background in blacksmithing techniques and > was a member for a while at least with the NC chapter > of ABANA.org . > > He can do forged ended silver twisted and entwined bracelets > or torques for example. He has one trick that involves > forging square, twisting, and reforging and twisting > that amazes me. The effect on the surface of the metal > is a bit amazing. I think recently he has attempted making > one of the irish torques originally done in gold with the > twisted + cross section. > > I wish I knew a few more of the specialized tricks he's learned > and I keep meaning to get over there to watch him some time. > I believe right now he may be working two jobs. Spends a > lot of time doing deliveries and working at his families > Chinese restaurant. > > He's always been a good and reliable friend to us. > I commend him to you. > > Magnus > > > Im still here for questions not too non-specific > > though. Please dont ask Who were the Vikings? as I will > > be rude and ignore you. > > > > Cheers, Roland. > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 15:11:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:11:13 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question References: <326755.1069726984819.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> <002001c3b2fd$65589500$c6870d0c@house> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C3B33C.7497F030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It sure helps to have reviews--I've bought any number of not-so-hot = books and videos over the years. Wish I'd thought to ask before = purchasing... :) --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: SFDULHPQQ To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question I wanted to thank everyone for the reviews of the MR Viking Sword = Video. Taking in consideration all of those replies plus some other = info I found, I have decided to spend my money elsewhere. Thanks again, Conall ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: WOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGME To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C3B33C.7497F030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It sure helps to have reviews--I've = bought any=20 number of not-so-hot books and videos over the years.  Wish I'd = thought to=20 ask before purchasing...  :)
 
--charlotte=20 mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Conall
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 = 9:39=20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR = Viking=20 Sword Video Question

I wanted to thank everyone for the reviews of the MR Viking Sword = Video.  Taking in consideration all of those replies plus some = other info=20 I found, I have decided to spend my money elsewhere.
 
    Thanks again,
 
    Conall
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Sent: Monday, November 24, = 2003 8:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] = MR Viking=20 Sword Video Question
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C3B33C.7497F030-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 16:53:03 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:53:03 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Completely OT - Concorde spotting tomorrow. Message-ID: <012501c3b37b$f3f40230$33722052@kim1> The last flight of any Concorde anywhere in the world will take place tomorrow when the one destined to return to her birthplace lands at Rolls-Royce in Filton. For those interested, the flight plan is as follows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the proposed flight plan for Alpha-Foxtrot's Final flight on Wed 26th Nov. Times are estimates. Departing Heathrow, estimated at 11.10, via English Channel on standard route out of Heathrow to the Supersonic acceleration point, to fly around the bay of Biscay. Landing at Filton is estimated at 12.42. Inbound to Filton Concorde will leave controlled airspace at Compton (approximately 10 miles west of Reading), 250 knots, at 12.18 It will pass overhead Filton at around 12.27, then continue west to the Severn estuary. >From there it will head down the Bristol side of the estuary and turn south to overfly Weston Supermare at 12.32 continuing east to overfly Bristol International two minutes later. Then it heads to fly past the Clifton suspension bridge at around 12:35 and on up to the Downs If it is landing on Runway 27, it will go east to Cold Ashton (junction of A46 and A420), making a 180 degree turn to line up for landing flying over the A38 on short finals. Otherwise, if landing 09, it will go overhead Filton heading North then West 'over the M4' (tunnel),making a 180 turn back east for landing. Either approach it's estimated to land at around 12.42 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Me? I've finally managed to get hold of The Right Man and secured the last seat on the coach arranged by the Rolls Royce Heritage Trust for its members. We gather at 9.30am for the short trip to Filton airfield as we need to be in before the traffic gets too stupid. Once there, there are engines to look at, people to see and places to be asked to vacate (!) before she comes in. She will then taxi over to our enclosure and it appears there may be the chance to kick a nostalgic wheel whilst it is still warm! I might even bore you all with a picture or two............... Regards, Kim Siddorn From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 17:56:38 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (John Lambert) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:56:38 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests Message-ID: Bill, I agree about avoiding the scallops for an early chest. My reference for these was a later period 13-14th Century illustration showing a soldier looting a town carrying a small chest using what looked like similar cutouts. Many of the pictures I've seen of earlier chests have flat bottomed ends, although I do think I've seen some Viking chests with a simple "V" notch cutout. On rough floors or campgrounds, the notches are a good idea, plus serve as handles for carrying the chest (as the soldier demonstrated). If the notches are not added, adding handles (maybe rope) on the sides would help. I'm at work again (still), but will check my references for the page number for picture in the "prune people" book. I did a quick google.com search for "viking chest" and found a number of excellent pictures of original and reconstructed chests, some with instructions. I would especially recommend the article by Dafydd (an old friend) at: http://www.greydragon.org/library/chests.html He shows a variety of chests and has construction diagrams. John >From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk > >Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to what >you might find convenient. I think avoiding the scallops would be best >(John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't find >it in the book...can you remember the page?). And he hit the nail >squarely...furniture. Can you say forge, boys and girls? Somebody >mentioned that this weekend...no who was that? Hmmmm.... > >Bill > > _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Nov 25 23:40:15 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 00:40:15 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question Message-ID: <29203830.1069803615893.JavaMail.www@wwinf3005> ------=_Part_288_22619584.1069803615890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To me it would seem that most of the experiments conducted to recreate the effectiveness of period arms and armor are of very little value. The only way we can ever be sure would be for a couple of volunteers to engage in a slug match. If period weapons were as wonderful as touted, or armor as useless as exclaimed, after some experiments, then why would anyone want to wear 50 pounds around? BTW, any word on "Genius of the Vikings" being released any time soon? Bill Message date : Nov 25 2003, 09:49 AM >From : J K Siddorn To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question On shields - the experiments we did with an ash wood shield in the summer for National Geographic on "Genius of the Vikings" showed that a shield that moved only slightly was sufficient to cause a full force blow with an axe to only scratch the paint. To make it penetrate for camera, we had to more rigidly mount the shield AND turn the grain so it was in line with the blade AND double the force of the blow (calculated by the averaging of ten over-the-shoulder blows against a strain gauged pad placed on a counter top) . Chopping meat is all very well, but if the meat has wit and a planked shield, things may be otherwise ............... Regards, Kim Siddorn I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a free frontal lobotomy! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:23 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question > I know someone else did a posting, but I thought I might put up my opinion. I thought it was mainly tripe. Certainly it was MR trying to showcase their products, but a lot of the info I thought was ridiculous...like using the point of a kite shield to stab an opponent in the foot. I was equally unimpressed with the cutting demo on the hunk of meat. It didn't prove much...you had Mr. Reinhardt using the full force of his arm (even leaving the ground at times to put so much power into the blow) against a piece of meat sitting on a solid chunk of wood which didn't allow for give. The round shields with arm straps were ridiculous as something like that will change how the shield is employed. And I could nitpick the details...no pants on one warrior, no shield bosses on the kites (now, I could be wrong about that detail myself, but I thought that was a later styling), but it would be best not too. > Overall, there are a couple of nuggets...like the leg being a very viable and used blow. But in terms of relation to real combat, I don't think there was any real information. And in realtion to recreation steel combat, it was practically useless. > > Bill > > > > > Message date : Nov 15 2003, 10:35 PM > From : Conall > To : list-regia-na@lig.net > Copy to : > Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate the input. My family and I are on a very limited > budget, so I am trying to be a "smart shopper". I hope this doesn't offend > any fans of MR weapons, but I am a bit leery about the video because I have > been disappointed with the quality of other products from Museum Replicas. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Conall > > > style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: > href="mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk > > > > To: href="mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:21 > AM > > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword > Video Question > > > > > > > I've got the video, but must confess that I've never actually watched > it. I would promise to give it the once over this weekend but my VCR's > are not working. I am planning on trying to get them working soon, > because I have to thank the wonderful Tracie Brown for staying up and taping > the Battlefield Detectives episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a > second look sometime. If I manage to get one (of the three...thank > goodness for DVD!) working, I'll write up a synopsis. > > > > > > Bill (Leifr) _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_288_22619584.1069803615890 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To me it would seem that most of the experiments conducted to recreate t= he effectiveness of period arms and armor are of very little value.  T= he only way we can ever be sure would be for a couple of volunteers to enga= ge in a slug match.  If period weapons were as wonderful as touted, or= armor as useless as exclaimed, after some experiments, then why would anyo= ne want to wear 50 pounds around?

 

BTW, any word on "Genius of the Vikings" being released any time soon?

 

Bill



Message date : Nov 25 2003, 09:49 AM
From : J K Siddorn =
To : list-regia-na@lig.net
Copy to : =
Subject : Re: Re: [Regia-NA] MR Viking Sword Video Question
On shie= lds - the experiments we did with an ash wood shield in the summer for Nati= onal Geographic on "Genius of the
Vikings" showed that a shield that mo= ved only slightly was sufficient to cause a full force blow with an axe to = only
scratch the paint.

To make it penetrate for camera, we had= to more rigidly mount the shield AND turn the grain so it was in line with= the
blade AND double the force of the blow (calculated by the averagin= g of ten over-the-shoulder blows against a strain
gauged pad placed on = a counter top) .

Chopping meat is all very well, but if the meat ha= s wit and a planked shield, things may be otherwise ...............

Regards,

Kim Siddorn

I'd rather have a free bottle in = front of me
than a free frontal lobotomy!


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> I know someone= else did a posting, but I thought I might put up my opinion. I thought it = was mainly tripe. Certainly
it was MR trying to showcase their products= , but a lot of the info I thought was ridiculous...like using the point of = a
kite shield to stab an opponent in the foot. I was equally unimpresse= d with the cutting demo on the hunk of meat. It
didn't prove much...you= had Mr. Reinhardt using the full force of his arm (even leaving the ground= at times to put so
much power into the blow) against a piece of meat s= itting on a solid chunk of wood which didn't allow for give. The
round = shields with arm straps were ridiculous as something like that will change = how the shield is employed. And I
could nitpick the details...no pants = on one warrior, no shield bosses on the kites (now, I could be wrong about = that
detail myself, but I thought that was a later styling), but it wou= ld be best not too.
> Overall, there are a couple of nuggets...like = the leg being a very viable and used blow. But in terms of relation to
= real combat, I don't think there was any real information. And in realtion = to recreation steel combat, it was
practically useless.
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> because I have to thank the wonderfu= l Tracie Brown for staying up and taping
> the Battlefield Detective= s episode last Saturday, and I would like to have a
> second look so= metime. If I manage to get one (of the three...thank
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------=_Part_288_22619584.1069803615890-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 04:47:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (John Lambert) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 04:47:05 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests Message-ID: The drawing of the box (without legs but the same joint design) is on page 273 of "The Viking" by Almgren. It is in front of the nearest tent. The caption for the drawing says that all of the items shown came from a grave ship, but does not say which one. The Mastermyr chest has a similar joint with very shot legs ("The Mastermyr Find" by Arwidsson and Bert. John >From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:26:27 +0100 (CET) > >Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to what >you might find convenient. I think avoiding the scallops would be best >(John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't find >it in the book...can you remember the page?). And he hit the nail >squarely...furniture. Can you say forge, boys and girls? Somebody >mentioned that this weekend...no who was that? Hmmmm.... > >Bill > _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 15:03:35 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:03:35 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests References: Message-ID: Just in case you're interested in the source. ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: HPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFG To: Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Chests > The drawing of the box (without legs but the same joint design) is on page > 273 of "The Viking" by Almgren. It is in front of the nearest tent. The > caption for the drawing says that all of the items shown came from a grave > ship, but does not say which one. The Mastermyr chest has a similar joint > with very shot legs ("The Mastermyr Find" by Arwidsson and Bert. > > John > > >Wrom: GMEPYOQKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNV > >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:26:27 +0100 (CET) > > > >Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to what > >you might find convenient. I think avoiding the scallops would be best > >(John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't find > >it in the book...can you remember the page?). And he hit the nail > >squarely...furniture. Can you say forge, boys and girls? Somebody > >mentioned that this weekend...no who was that? Hmmmm.... > > > >Bill > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, > video game reviews, and more here. > http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 15:58:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery References: <1105484.1069727293280.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B40C.3FE64A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Care to tell us what you're critiquing? Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking Age pottery other than = the YAT Coppergate book? As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly interested in good pics = with dimensions and glaze information. Thanks! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: NSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDDJ To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery Hi Eileen, I'm still trying to digest the information. But overall, this paper = is pretty good. It has some good detail on period pottery as applies to = a Regia context. It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did I miss = something?). Some of the shards are attributed to earlier periods, so = be careful when reading. Bill Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B40C.3FE64A50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Care to tell us what you're=20 critiquing?
 
Can anyone recommend books on = Anglo-Saxon/Viking=20 Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate book?
 
As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm = particularly=20 interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze = information.
 
Thanks!
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet= .co.uk=20
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 = 9:28=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] = pottery

Hi Eileen,

 

I'm still trying to digest the information.  But overall, this = paper=20 is pretty good.  It has some good detail on period pottery as = applies to=20 a Regia context.  It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did = I miss=20 something?).  Some of the shards are attributed to earlier = periods, so be=20 careful when reading.

 

Bill

 

Bill


------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C3B40C.3FE64A50-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:02:48 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:02:48 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? Message-ID: Gu=F0rum wasn't it you that had some info on this? could you share it (again) if so? Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:12:11 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:12:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests Message-ID: <704945.1069863131511.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> ------=_Part_15434_27077971.1069863131508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, Thanks for that... In re-reading my post, I did a bad job of writing what I meant. I didn't doubt the box for a minute...I should have more clearly indicated I was curious about the scallops (and forgive my term...that may not be the appropriate woodworking name) in the legs/side-pieces. Bill Message date : Nov 26 2003, 04:47 AM >From : John Lambert To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Chests The drawing of the box (without legs but the same joint design) is on page 273 of "The Viking" by Almgren. It is in front of the nearest tent. The caption for the drawing says that all of the items shown came from a grave ship, but does not say which one. The Mastermyr chest has a similar joint with very shot legs ("The Mastermyr Find" by Arwidsson and Bert. John >From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:26:27 +0100 (CET) > >Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to what >you might find convenient. I think avoiding the scallops would be best >(John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't find >it in the book...can you remember the page?). And he hit the nail >squarely...furniture. Can you say forge, boys and girls? Somebody >mentioned that this weekend...no who was that? Hmmmm.... > >Bill > _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na ------=_Part_15434_27077971.1069863131508 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi John,

 

Thanks for that...  In re-reading my post, I did a bad job of writi= ng what I meant.  I didn't doubt the box for a minute...I should have = more clearly indicated I was curious about the scallops (and forgive my ter= m...that may not be the appropriate woodworking name) in the legs/side-piec= es.

 

Bill



Message date : Nov 26 2003, 04:47 AM
From : John Lambert=
To : list-regia-na@lig.net
Copy to :
Subje= ct : Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Chests
The drawing of the box (without legs but= the same joint design) is on page
273 of "The Viking" by Almgren. It i= s in front of the nearest tent. The
caption for the drawing says that a= ll of the items shown came from a grave
ship, but does not say which on= e. The Mastermyr chest has a similar joint
with very shot legs ("The Ma= stermyr Find" by Arwidsson and Bert.

John

>From: VIKING@= inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:26:27 +0100 (CET= )
>
>Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can di= mension it to what
>you might find convenient. I think avoiding the = scallops would be best
>(John, did your source have that?...I looked= for the pic and couldn't find
>it in the book...can you remember th= e page?). And he hit the nail
>squarely...furniture. Can you say for= ge, boys and girls? Somebody
>mentioned that this weekend...no who w= as that? Hmmmm....
>
>Bill
>

_________________= ________________________________________________
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------=_Part_15434_27077971.1069863131508-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:17:06 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:17:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: <1715139.1069863426509.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> ------=_Part_15570_14634122.1069863426507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Charlotte, Eileen had asked about a thesis paper posted on the web at http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm This is a pretty good paper, but unfortunately no pics. I'll have a look through my stuff at home for some references for you. Bill Message date : Nov 26 2003, 03:59 PM >From : crmayhew@hotmail.com To : list-regia-na@lig.net Copy to : Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] pottery Care to tell us what you're critiquing? Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate book? As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze information. Thanks! --charlotte mayhew style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> ----- Original Message ----- style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: href="mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk To: href="mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery Hi Eileen, I'm still trying to digest the information. But overall, this paper is pretty good. It has some good detail on period pottery as applies to a Regia context. It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did I miss something?). Some of the shards are attributed to earlier periods, so be careful when reading. Bill Bill ------=_Part_15570_14634122.1069863426507 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Charlotte,

 

Eileen had asked about a thesis paper posted on the web at

This is a pretty good paper, but unfortunately no pics.  I'll have a look through my stuff at home for some references for you.

 

Bill



Message date : Nov 26 2003, 03:59 PM
From : crmayhew@hotmail.com
To : list-regia-na@lig.net
Copy to :
Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] pottery







Care to tell us what you're
critiquing?

 

Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking
Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate book?

 

As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly
interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze information.

 

Thanks!

 

--charlotte mayhew

 

 

 

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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
href="mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk


Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:28
PM

Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery



Hi Eileen,


 


I'm still trying to digest the information.  But overall, this paper
is pretty good.  It has some good detail on period pottery as applies to
a Regia context.  It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did I miss
something?).  Some of the shards are attributed to earlier periods, so be
careful when reading.


 


Bill


 


Bill



------=_Part_15570_14634122.1069863426507-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:18:31 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Patchett) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:18:31 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery References: <1105484.1069727293280.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: <3FC4D257.3070507@sympatico.ca> --------------070703000109030009060901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote: > Care to tell us what you're critiquing? > > > > Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking Age pottery other > than the YAT Coppergate book? > > > > As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly interested in good > pics with dimensions and glaze information. > > > > Thanks! > > > > --charlotte mayhew > Charlotte, I'm going to forward your questions to Foote and Grainne Wynmerestow's resident potters. Foote has done quite a bit of research into Anglo Saxon pottery, so I hope he'll be able to answer your questions. Maybe you guys can have an off list discussion. Warning though, Grainne is the one that does the computer thing, so sometimes it takes some time to get electronic answers from Foote. Ædwen --------------070703000109030009060901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote:
Care to tell us what you're critiquing?
 
Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate book?
 
As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze information.
 
Thanks!
 
--charlotte mayhew
Charlotte,

I'm going to forward your questions to Foote and Grainne Wynmerestow's resident potters.  Foote has done quite a bit of research into Anglo Saxon pottery, so I hope he'll be able to answer your questions.

Maybe you guys can have an off list discussion.  Warning though, Grainne is the one that does the computer thing, so sometimes it takes some time to get electronic answers from Foote.

Ædwen

--------------070703000109030009060901-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:20:55 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:20:55 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery References: <1715139.1069863426509.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C3B40F.5BFAAD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: CLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSC To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery Hi Charlotte, Eileen had asked about a thesis paper posted on the web at=20 http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm This is a pretty good paper, but unfortunately no pics. I'll have a = look through my stuff at home for some references for you. Bill Message date : Nov 26 2003, 03:59 PM=20 From : crmayhew@hotmail.com=20 To : list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Copy to :=20 Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] pottery=20 Care to tell us what you're=20 critiquing? Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking=20 Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate book? As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly=20 interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze information. Thanks! --charlotte mayhew style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black">From:=20 = href=3D"mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet= .co.uk=20 To: href=3D"mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:28=20 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery Hi Eileen, I'm still trying to digest the information. But overall, this = paper=20 is pretty good. It has some good detail on period pottery as = applies to=20 a Regia context. It's a shame that there are no pictures (or did = I miss=20 something?). Some of the shards are attributed to earlier = periods, so be=20 careful when reading. Bill Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C3B40F.5BFAAD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks!
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet= .co.uk=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, = 2003 11:17=20 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] = pottery

Hi Charlotte,

 

Eileen had asked about a thesis paper posted on the web at

http://www.poste= x.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm

This is a pretty good paper, but unfortunately no pics.  I'll = have a=20 look through my stuff at home for some references for you.

 

Bill



Message=20 date : Nov 26 2003, 03:59 PM
From : crmayhew@hotmail.com
To = : list-regia-na@lig.net =
Copy to :=20
Subject : Re: [Regia-NA] pottery







Care to tell us what you're=20
critiquing?

 

Can anyone recommend books on=20 Anglo-Saxon/Viking
Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate=20 book?

 

As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm = particularly
interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze=20 information.

 

Thanks!

 

--charlotte mayhew

 

 

 

style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px;=20 MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px">=20
----- Original Message ----- =

style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; = font-color:=20 black">From:
href=3D"mailto:VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk">VIKING@inthedanela= w.fsnet.co.uk=20


Sent: Monday, November 24, = 2003 9:28=20
PM

Subject: Re: [Regia-NA]=20 pottery



Hi Eileen,


 


I'm still trying to digest the information.  But overall, = this=20 paper
is pretty good.  It has some good detail on period = pottery=20 as applies to
a Regia context.  It's a shame that there = are no=20 pictures (or did I miss
something?).  Some of the shards = are=20 attributed to earlier periods, so be
careful when = reading.


 


Bill


 


=

Bill



= ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C3B40F.5BFAAD50-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:26:00 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:26:00 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? Message-ID: There is an Irish one, though I've not seen it. I think Siebhyrt posted something on it. I've got the picture of the one from Loch Glashen, Ayrshire, Scotland. Probable 8th century, from a crannog site. Gu=F0rum =FEorwulfsson andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk This e-mail represents the personal views of the sender. Dumfries and Galloway Council accepts no responsibility whatsoever for its contents. > -----Original Message----- > From: Schuster, Robert L. [mailto:SchusterRL@umsystem.edu] > Sent: 26 November 2003 16:03 > To: List-Regia-Us (E-mail) > Subject: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? >=20 >=20 > Gu=F0rum > wasn't it you that had some info on this? > could you share it (again) if so? >=20 > Halvgrimr >=20 > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na >=20 From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:29:49 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery References: <1105484.1069727293280.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> <3FC4D257.3070507@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C3B410.9A22BC70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks very much =C6dwen! ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: WIGYOKSTTZR To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote: Care to tell us what you're critiquing? Can anyone recommend books on Anglo-Saxon/Viking Age pottery other = than the YAT Coppergate book? As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm particularly interested in good = pics with dimensions and glaze information. Thanks! --charlotte mayhew Charlotte, I'm going to forward your questions to Foote and Grainne Wynmerestow's = resident potters. Foote has done quite a bit of research into Anglo = Saxon pottery, so I hope he'll be able to answer your questions. Maybe you guys can have an off list discussion. Warning though, = Grainne is the one that does the computer thing, so sometimes it takes = some time to get electronic answers from Foote. =C6dwen ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C3B410.9A22BC70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks very much =C6dwen!
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Patchett
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, = 2003 11:18=20 AM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] = pottery

crmayhew@hotmail.com = wrote:
Care to tell us what you're=20 critiquing?
 
Can anyone recommend books on=20 Anglo-Saxon/Viking Age pottery other than the YAT Coppergate=20 book?
 
As I'm trying to make replicas, I'm = particularly interested in good pics with dimensions and glaze=20 information.
 
Thanks!
 
--charlotte=20 mayhew
Charlotte,

I'm going to forward = your=20 questions to Foote and Grainne Wynmerestow's resident potters. =  Foote has=20 done quite a bit of research into Anglo Saxon pottery, so I hope he'll = be able=20 to answer your questions.

Maybe you guys can have an off list=20 discussion.  Warning though, Grainne is the one that does the = computer=20 thing, so sometimes it takes some time to get electronic answers from=20 Foote.

=C6dwen

------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C3B410.9A22BC70-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 16:33:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:33:12 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: > Eileen had asked about a thesis paper posted on the web at http://www.postex.demon.co.uk/thesis/thesis.htm >This is a pretty good paper, but unfortunately no pics. I'll have a = look through my stuff at >home for some references for you. Somewhere in the depths of my collection I may have some archaeological illustrations of the stuff. I dug in Bristol for 3 years before moving = to Scotland, and Alan worked on my Bristol and Ham Green wares. Just don't expect a quick response - school holidays coming up [St.Andrew's Day] = so I'm off for several days (and you all know I have a brain like a sieve). Gu=F0rum =FEorwulfsson andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk This e-mail represents the personal views of the sender. Dumfries and Galloway Council accepts no responsibility whatsoever for its contents. From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 17:26:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hazel Uzzell) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:26:16 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Holidays Message-ID: <00cc01c3b442$65d672e0$0200a8c0@mshome.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C3B442.659C7720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C3B442.659C7720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Happy Thanksgiving = everyone!
Hazel

------=_NextPart_000_00C9_01C3B442.659C7720-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 17:48:37 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Karen *) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 12:48:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Regia pages In-Reply-To: <00cc01c3b442$65d672e0$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: Hiya, I was searching the Regia pages last night for textile stuffs, and I could have sworn there was a page on dyeing there a few months ago, but I couldn't find it. I have a memory of a pic of lots of skeins of different coloured wools hanging on some kind of large frame and notes about what got which colour. Am I delusional and missing it, or is it gone? If there is such a page, could someone point me right to the url? Thanks, Karen :) ======== "'Cause intensity... it's never really been a problem for me." Karen and Neil's Tree Home on the Web: http://www.treheima.ca From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 18:30:12 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jon Smith) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:30:12 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Regia pages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't remember it... Jon (webmaster - so I should) -----Original Message----- From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On Behalf Of Karen * Sent: 26 November 2003 17:49 To: list-regia-na@lig.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Regia pages Hiya, I was searching the Regia pages last night for textile stuffs, and I could have sworn there was a page on dyeing there a few months ago, but I couldn't find it. I have a memory of a pic of lots of skeins of different coloured wools hanging on some kind of large frame and notes about what got which colour. Am I delusional and missing it, or is it gone? If there is such a page, could someone point me right to the url? Thanks, Karen :) ======== "'Cause intensity... it's never really been a problem for me." Karen and Neil's Tree Home on the Web: http://www.treheima.ca _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 19:08:50 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Russ Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:08:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Regia pages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126190851.69362.qmail@web10410.mail.yahoo.com> Could it possibly be this page? http://www.regia.org/members/dyes.htm Russ > -----Original Message----- > If there is such a page, could someone point me right to the url? > > Thanks, > > Karen :) > ======== > "'Cause intensity... it's never really been a problem for me." > Karen and Neil's Tree Home on the Web: http://www.treheima.ca > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 19:13:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Karen *) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:13:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Regia-NA] Regia pages In-Reply-To: <20031126190851.69362.qmail@web10410.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Russ Holmes wrote: > Could it possibly be this page? > > http://www.regia.org/members/dyes.htm It's not the one I'm thinking of but it is useful nonetheless. Thanks :) Funny, I could have sworn... ah well, I do so much web hunting at times, it's not surprising it all blurs. Karen :) ======== "'Cause intensity... it's never really been a problem for me." Karen and Neil's Tree Home on the Web: http://www.treheima.ca From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 20:44:56 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 20:44:56 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Holidays References: <00cc01c3b442$65d672e0$0200a8c0@mshome.net> Message-ID: <002e01c3b45e$28f6e320$5ae18351@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C3B45E.26E6EEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, I see some nice person has given Hazel a new computer book.... Hrolf the frankly baffled! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hazel Uzzell=20 To: Regia NA=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Holidays Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C3B45E.26E6EEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ah, I see some nice person has given Hazel a new = computer=20 book....
 
Hrolf the frankly baffled!
----- Original Message -----
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Happy Thanksgiving = everyone!
Hazel

------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C3B45E.26E6EEE0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 21:32:17 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:32:17 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1069882337.3fc51be182231@webmail.usask.ca> There's one from Ireland, and one from Scotland. The original picture of the Scottish one came from Nathan who posts here, there's a link to Nathan's picture on the Midgard armour page. http://www.larp.com/midgard ~Wil Quoting "Schuster, Robert L." : > Guðrum > wasn't it you that had some info on this? > could you share it (again) if so? > > Halvgrimr > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 21:52:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:52:20 -0600 Subject: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? Message-ID: There's one from Ireland, and one from Scotland. The original picture of = the=20 Scottish one came from Nathan who posts here, there's a link to Nathan's = picture on the Midgard armour page. --its a dead link though;( Nathan....help? also while surfing Nathan's page I found a link to Bailiff Forge they list swords for 165 pounds are these combat grade? if so what are like? Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 21:58:13 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:58:13 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? Message-ID: There is an Irish one, though I've not seen it. I think Siebhyrt posted something on it. I've got the picture of the one from Loch Glashen, Ayrshire, Scotland. Probable 8th century, from a crannog site. --breaker 1-9, Siebhyrt, you got your ears on? come on back now good buddy. Halvgrimr using stupid American trucker lingo cause its just that kinda day;) From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 22:04:28 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (nathan) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:04:28 -0000 Subject: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Actually that came from andy and is the one form the crannog site he mentioned earlier today. Kram N. > -----Original Message----- > From: list-regia-na-admin@lig.net [mailto:list-regia-na-admin@lig.net]On > Behalf Of Schuster, Robert L. > Sent: 26 November 2003 21:52 > To: list-regia-na@lig.net > Subject: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie > from Ireland? > > > > > > There's one from Ireland, and one from Scotland. The original picture of the > Scottish one came from Nathan who posts here, there's a link to Nathan's > picture on the Midgard armour page. > > --its a dead link though;( > Nathan....help? > > also while surfing Nathan's page I found a link to Bailiff Forge > they list swords for 165 pounds > are these combat grade? > if so what are like? > > > Halvgrimr > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 22:15:10 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:15:10 -0600 Subject: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? Message-ID: Actually that came from andy and is the one form the crannog site he = mentioned earlier today. Kram N. --thanks Nathan I have contacted Andy privately to spare the rest of the list anymore = emails;) Halvgrimr From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 22:54:05 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:54:05 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Bailiff Forge References: Message-ID: <001e01c3b470$37541520$1a887ad5@m1w9d8> I have a Bailiff Forge sharp sword, and a matching scramseax (that was my wedding present...) I also used to have a helmet from him, until it got thieved. "Blunt" appears not to be in the vocabulary of Hugin and Munin; nor, indeed, does "Rust" ! I found John Denbigh to be a good and friendly craftsman; but that was over ten years ago. Since then, however, he has had at least one heart attack, and I can't vouch for his current quality. I have heard mixed reports about more recent products. My own remaining pieces are still about the only things apart from family that I would never consider parting with. Regards, Hrolf From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 23:52:20 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?mik=20lawson?=) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:52:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20031126235220.28588.qmail@web25004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1919250272-1069890740=:27501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have two of bailiff forges swords,a shrp & a fighting blunt.I find them to be well balanced & very tough but i had to wait a while for them from the initial order but when they arrived it was worth it.The design was taken from a manuscript picture showing Cnut dedicating a cross to Winchester Cathedral & the blade shape was taken from a find & i still think that the pommel shape is one of the best on any sword that i've ever seen.I had conversations with John Denbiegh {the owner then} who i found intrested in what i had to say & was polite & courteous. Regards, Mik also while surfing Nathan's page I found a link to Bailiff Forge they list swords for 165 pounds are these combat grade? if so what are like? 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I have two of bailiff forges swords,a shrp & a fighting blunt.I find them to be well balanced & very tough but i had to wait a while for them from the initial order but when they arrived it was worth it.The design was taken from a manuscript picture showing Cnut dedicating a cross to Winchester Cathedral & the blade shape was taken from a find & i still think that the pommel shape is one of the best on any sword that i've ever seen.I had conversations with John Denbiegh {the owner then} who i found intrested in what i had to say & was polite & courteous.

Regards,

Mik


also while surfing Nathan's page I found a link to Bailiff Forge
they list swords for 165 pounds
are these combat grade?
if so what are like?


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Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger --0-1919250272-1069890740=:27501-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 27 16:39:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:39:58 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Bailiff Forge References: <001e01c3b470$37541520$1a887ad5@m1w9d8> Message-ID: <019301c3b505$1834c000$33722052@kim1> Both my pattern welded sword and my silver-hilted Gilton replica were made by John at Bailiff Forge. Both are sharps, but the PW is as thin as a thin thing and very springy, so his workmanship is fine. Like Hrolf, both mine are around ten years old and I'd want to re-evaluate one of his swords before I gave it a clean bill of health - ten years is a long time ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hrolf Douglasson" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Bailiff Forge > I have a Bailiff Forge sharp sword, and a matching scramseax (that was my > wedding present...) I also used to have a helmet from him, until it got > thieved. "Blunt" appears not to be in the vocabulary of Hugin and Munin; > nor, indeed, does "Rust" ! > I found John Denbigh to be a good and friendly craftsman; but that was over > ten years ago. Since then, however, he has had at least one heart attack, > and I can't vouch for his current quality. I have heard mixed reports about > more recent products. My own remaining pieces are still about the only > things apart from family that I would never consider parting with. > > Regards, > > Hrolf > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Nov 27 21:03:40 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J K Siddorn) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:03:40 -0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT - Concorde pics on Webshots. Message-ID: <032701c3b529$ef594f00$33722052@kim1> British Airways Concorde G-BOAF completed her last commercial flight yesterday and landed at Filton in Bristol where she was the last Concorde built. She will become the centrepiece of a new major aerospace museum. As a Life Member of the Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust, I was lucky enough to be at the airfield to see her fly over at 12.45 and then touch down at just after 1.00pm GMT. I took some digital photos of her and 23 of these may be seen at http://community.webshots.com/album/102054155lQMRvs I also ran off a 36 exposure chemical film using a 500mil lens which is away being developed. Watch this space! Airbus, the successors to The Bristol Aeroplane Company that built them, have now handed back the Type Certification to the Civil Aviation Authority, effectively sealing the fate of all aircraft of this type to moulder as museum exhibits. There are also some pics of the Rolls-Royce company Spitfire and a P51D Mustang that flew in from North Weald that morning. Regards, Kim Siddorn From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 28 03:14:48 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 04:14:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: <19941685.1069989288679.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> ------=_Part_20018_13788710.1069989288677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the pottery minded among us (sorry that the alignment doesn't look very nice, cut and paste doesn't work well apparently with my web-based email) >From my library, these are the pottery references that really are worth the read. Several of the volumes discussed pottery, but not types/shapes/compostion...really only dealing with pottery as a trade item. The Archaeology of York: The Pottery, 16/6, Pottery from 46-54 Fishergate A.J. Mainman Council for British Archaology London 1993 ISBN: 1-872414-31-1 *** One of the best works on the finds. Anglian through Viking Age York (and beyond). Good description of forms and composition with good illustrations. >From Viking to Crusader, Scandinavia and Europe, 800-1200 General Eds: Else Roesdahl and David M. Wilson Rizzoli International Publications, Inc. New York 1992 ISBN: 0-8478-1625-7 *** Surprisingly few pictures, but fairly good descriptions. The Vikings (A Publication of the British Museum and the Metropolitan Museum of Art) James Graham-Campbell and Dafydd Kidd Jarrold and Sons, Ltd. Norwich 1980 ISBN: 0-688-03603-1 (William Morrow and Co., Inc.) 0-87099-219-8 (Metropolitan Museum of Art) 0-87099-220-1 (pbk) (Metropolitan Museum of Art) *** General information, but some very nice, large pictures showing detail The Archaeology of York: The Small Finds, 17/14, Craft, Industry And Everyday Life A.J. Mainman and N.S.H. Rogers Council for British Archaeology York 2000 ISBN: 1-902771-11-7 *** Good simple description of types...not heavy on technical details. The Archaeology of York: Anglian York, 7/2, Anglian York: A Survey of the Evidence D. Tweddle, J. Moulden and E. Logan Council for British Archaeology York 1999 ISBN: 1-902771-06-0 *** Fair descriptions of composition. About 10 good illustrations of inscribed designs. Early period in Regia...be careful of too early. Wikinger Museum Haithabu: Schaufenster einer fruhen Stadt Hildegard Elsner Karl Wachholtz Verlag Neumunster (This is the guidebook for the Hedeby museum in Germany. The text is in German, and there is no publication date or ISBN. It was purchased in the early '90's.) *** Few pictures of the Hedeby finds. (If you can get a hold of this volume, it is very detailed on quite a number of items.) Jorvik Viking Centre Information Pack (This is a booklet from the JVC, and if there was a publisher, date, or ISBN, it has since been lost by me. It dates from approximately the mid-'80's.) *** Good description on pottery production in simple, easy to understand language. Has two good pictures (detailed) of domestic items and also of a couple of crucible in the write-up on metalworking in Jorvik. Hope this helps. Bill ------=_Part_20018_13788710.1069989288677 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

For the pottery minded among us (sorry that the alignment doesn't look very nice, cut and paste doesn't work well apparently with my web-based email)

From my library, these are the pottery references that really are worth the read. Several of the volumes discussed pottery, but not types/shapes/compostion...really only dealing with pottery as a trade item.

The Archaeology of York: The Pottery, 16/6, Pottery from 46-54 Fishergate

    A.J. Mainman

    Council for British Archaology

    London

    1993

    ISBN: 1-872414-31-1

    *** One of the best works on the finds. Anglian through Viking Age York (and beyond). Good

    description of forms and composition with good illustrations.

 

From Viking to Crusader, Scandinavia and Europe, 800-1200

    General Eds: Else Roesdahl and David M. Wilson

    Rizzoli International Publications, Inc.

    New York

    1992

    ISBN: 0-8478-1625-7

    *** Surprisingly few pictures, but fairly good descriptions.

The Vikings (A Publication of the British Museum and the Metropolitan Museum of Art)

    James Graham-Campbell and Dafydd Kidd

    Jarrold and Sons, Ltd.

    Norwich

    1980

    ISBN: 0-688-03603-1 (William Morrow and Co., Inc.)

                0-87099-219-8 (Metropolitan Museum of Art)

                0-87099-220-1 (pbk) (Metropolitan Museum of Art)

    *** General information, but some very nice, large pictures showing detail

The Archaeology of York: The Small Finds, 17/14, Craft, Industry And Everyday Life

    A.J. Mainman and N.S.H. Rogers

    Council for British Archaeology

    York

    2000

    ISBN: 1-902771-11-7

    *** Good simple description of types...not heavy on technical details.

The Archaeology of York: Anglian York, 7/2, Anglian York: A Survey of the Evidence

    D. Tweddle, J. Moulden and E. Logan

    Council for British Archaeology

    York

    1999

    ISBN: 1-902771-06-0

    *** Fair descriptions of composition. About 10 good illustrations of inscribed designs.

     Early period in Regia...be careful of too early.

Wikinger Museum Haithabu: Schaufenster einer fruhen Stadt

    Hildegard Elsner

    Karl Wachholtz Verlag

    Neumunster

    (This is the guidebook for the Hedeby museum in Germany. The text is in German, and

   there is no publication date or ISBN. It was purchased in the early '90's.)

    *** Few pictures of the Hedeby finds. (If you can get a hold of this volume, it is very detailed

    on quite a number of items.)

Jorvik Viking Centre Information Pack

    (This is a booklet from the JVC, and if there was a publisher, date, or ISBN, it has since

    been lost by me. It dates from approximately the mid-'80's.)

    *** Good description on pottery production in simple, easy to understand language. Has

    two good pictures (detailed) of domestic items and also of a couple of crucible in the

    write-up on metalworking in Jorvik.

Hope this helps.

Bill

 
------=_Part_20018_13788710.1069989288677-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 28 04:37:29 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:37:29 -0600 Subject: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? References: Message-ID: <010a01c3b569$55e5e870$678a0d0c@house> If anyone can track that information down, I would also be very interested. Thanks, Conall ----- Original Message ----- From: "Schuster, Robert L." To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: RE: Bailiff Forge was RE: [Regia-NA] leather shirt/gambeson thingie from Ireland? From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 28 04:37:14 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Conall) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:37:14 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: Message-ID: <010901c3b569$4d291f40$678a0d0c@house> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholson, Andrew" To: Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions >I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if you'd like. Guðrum > Greetings all, I guess I am behind on this, but was it decided that I need to be a paid member before I can obtain a copy of the Irish Dress Guidelines? I would be happy to be a member, but it will have to be a while yet due to my ridiculously limited budget, probably until at least January. I was just hoping for some more information. I am sort of working out here in relative isolation, and just wondering what I needed to do. Slainte, Conall From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 28 17:58:15 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:58:15 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Stone Working References: <20030804002840.23335.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3FC78CB7.1090708@bellsouth.net> Delphi Evincar wrote: > Greetings one and all. I have been refered to this > mailing list by those who knew of it and suggested it > would be a good place to search for my answers. It seems funny but the best questions often are asked on the Regia North American list which is what anyone can subscribe to. Since joining I've been put on three more apparently. > In my community there is a small group of persons > forming a viking/norse reenactment group in the hopes > that we will be able to travel, meet others of like > intrest, and just generally have fun. > > I am currently petitioning the organizer of said group > for memberships as a craftsman. Particularly in the > area of Stone Working and Crafting. To my knowledge the Norse were not great stoneworkers. They were people who had some people pick designs into their stones to commemorate various relatives or people however, and this generally required a small pitching chisel and a hammer/pick or mallet of some sort. (and generally a whole lot of effort by people to move the things.) There are some expensive books out currently on Standing Stones (Runestones) and Ironwork which I have not bought yet. Anglo-Saxon Studies in Archaeology and History: Volume 3 James Lang, The Hogback: A Viking Colonial Monument . (from Northeast England) which are some of the best examples of their stone work. Sometime before the mid sixth century there were people in Gotland at least with stone house bases. There are approximately 1400 farms on that island (which is also where the great majority of Viking Age finds are found). All of a sudden the stone foundations (which may be seen today) changed to something else - likely wooden. That probably happened was a comet strike or a large volcano eruption, likely in south east Asia around 535-7 AD (Arthur's time too) during which the sky turned much darker and it was colder, and probably a good percentage of everything died off. See the book Catastrophe. Keys, David. Catastrophe: an Investigation into the Origins of the Modern World; Ballantine, 2000, Stated First American Edition. Hard Cover. 343 pages, notes, bibliog., index. “Did a volcanic eruption in A.D. 535 begin a chain of events which changed the Earth's climate, and sent the Black Plague out of Africa, through the Mediterranean area and into Europe, thereby changing the entire course of human history?” “All too possible today. Climactic changes, history, effect of environment on human beings in history, natural disasters, weather -- effect of volcanic eruptions on, asteroids, collisions with earth. Chapters on the Plague, the Barbarian Tide, Destabilising the Empire, the Sword of Islam, the Turkish dimension, western Europe, disaster in the Orient, changing the Americas, and the reasons why. ISBN:0345408764 $25 Hardback. Also ARROW (A DIVISION OF RANDOM House 2000. Catastrophe. An Investigation into the Origins of the Modern World. ISBN:0345408764 "In AD 536, a volcanic eruption meant our planet was enveloped by a cloak of lethal dust which changed the climate for decades. Tens of millions of people died around the globe as a bubonic plague epidemic broke out. It was the nearest humankind has ever come to Doomsday and it marked the real beginning of the modern era. David Keys sets the record straight by firmly placing the pivotal point in world history as the mid-sixth-century Dark Ages and shows how our fragile civilisation almost ended." 520pp After that time you do not find stone foundations there for houses. I have seen the film history program of the book and it mentioned that it is mentioned in the literature on Arthur as well. I haven't had time to do more than scan the book. The norse had a number of rather rough soapstone lamps and cooking pots. The cooking pots look to me like they were finished inside with a stone carving gouge but still left rather rough. The lamps were quite rough inside that I have seen pictures of. I've seen one or two replicas (have some rough soapstone from Virginia I may make a replica of one of these with. One is a bit tear dropped shaped with three suspension holes. It would have had a wick dipped likely in fat. There is a quarry in which you can see a number of cooking pots being carved out of the stone that were never completed. They sit sideways in the stone as it lies. An archaeologist once sent me a jpeg picture of the quarry. Must be the same one in a couple of my viking books. I cannot remember just which ones. I have somewhere around 150 of them. Likely places to look would be the following books, all of which were exhibition books and all of which have subsequently become rather hard to find. Viking Artefacts by James Graham-Campbell (took me several years) limited to 800 copies - British Museum. Viking to Crusader (also available in a German edition) Vikings, the North Atlantic Saga, the most recent of them was touring many museums in North America including the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History, which conceivably might still have one or two. The cooking pots were highly prized as they were sometimes repaired by metal plates and rivets. However, with very few sites excepted, most soapstone contains asbestos, and the greener it is generally the more it contains. Asbestos is a fibrous kind of any of five minerals and essentially has very tiny fibers that the lungs cannot expel by nature of the cilia being unable to move anything that small that also has hooks in some of it that dig in. This can also happen to your skin and intestines. You can get cancer from the body's efforts to deal with it. It can be passed on to others by washing your clothes with theirs after working it. A shipfitter's family got it this way. Montana white soapstone is nearly the only soapstone without asbestos in it. It is massive talc instead. Talc (yes folks, talcum powder comes from it) is also suspected as a carcinogen, meaning it can cause cancer. > I have had 1 > years worth of apprenticship in the field, however it > was with modern tools. And alas my searching for the > original tools and techniques of the Viking Era have > come up empty. Thus I come to you, seeking any who > would be willing to share their knowledge in such a > field. Be it tips and tricks, a list of tools, or > even a website that can list all of this for me. The greatest assemblage of late, or slightly later, Viking Age tools is in the following book - The Mastermyr Find, A Viking Age Tool-chest from Gotland, by the late Greta Arwidsson. It is available from: Norm Larson Books, 5426 E. Hwy 246, Lompoc, CA 93436. Fax 805-735-8367, Ph 800-743-4766 Postage is $2 for first book plus $.50 for each additional book to a maximum of $5.00 larbooks@impulse.net The book costs $18. It contains metalworking, woodworking, jewelry, cooking tools such as a folding fish griddle (ror suspension) and a cauldron found nearby. What likely happened was the chest (that is there also in detail complete with lock) was being ferried across a bog in a boat that overturned and it disappeared under the water. The bog later became a meadow and the meadow was eventually plowed - 1937? - at which time the chest was struck and the cauldron found a bit later. There have been various groups reproducing the thing as a set for fun - mostly blacksmiths. > It would be greatly appreciated and gladly accepted. You might want to ask on Norsefolk@yahoogroups.com Mistress Gunnvor / Gunnora has many articles on the Vikings on the http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ webpages. She frequents the Norsefolk list and is a very good scholar on most things Viking in a number of languages. My best books on stoneworking are behind a thirty drawer chest on top of which is another 250 pounds of stuff with no good alternate place to put them. The rest generally involve lettering in stone. I'd try books on stone sculpture. Magnus, OL [SCA], Regia, Manx, GDH > I thank you all for your time. > > Cordially, Quinn Aboudara From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 28 18:54:16 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CRMayhew) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery References: <19941685.1069989288679.JavaMail.www@wwinf3001> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3B5B7.1D19F970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's very helpful, Bill! I have a few of those books and will check through them again for = pottery items/info. I must have overlooked. And I'll work on tracking down those that I don't yet have. Thanks very much! --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet.co.uk=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] pottery For the pottery minded among us (sorry that the alignment doesn't look = very nice, cut and paste doesn't work well apparently with my web-based = email) From my library, these are the pottery references that really are = worth the read. Several of the volumes discussed pottery, but not = types/shapes/compostion...really only dealing with pottery as a trade = item. The Archaeology of York: The Pottery, 16/6, Pottery from 46-54 = Fishergate A.J. Mainman Council for British Archaology London 1993 ISBN: 1-872414-31-1 *** One of the best works on the finds. Anglian through Viking Age = York (and beyond). Good description of forms and composition with good illustrations. From Viking to Crusader, Scandinavia and Europe, 800-1200 General Eds: Else Roesdahl and David M. Wilson Rizzoli International Publications, Inc. New York 1992 ISBN: 0-8478-1625-7 *** Surprisingly few pictures, but fairly good descriptions. The Vikings (A Publication of the British Museum and the Metropolitan = Museum of Art) James Graham-Campbell and Dafydd Kidd Jarrold and Sons, Ltd. Norwich 1980 ISBN: 0-688-03603-1 (William Morrow and Co., Inc.) 0-87099-219-8 (Metropolitan Museum of Art) 0-87099-220-1 (pbk) (Metropolitan Museum of Art) *** General information, but some very nice, large pictures = showing detail The Archaeology of York: The Small Finds, 17/14, Craft, Industry And = Everyday Life A.J. Mainman and N.S.H. Rogers Council for British Archaeology York 2000 ISBN: 1-902771-11-7 *** Good simple description of types...not heavy on technical = details. The Archaeology of York: Anglian York, 7/2, Anglian York: A Survey of = the Evidence D. Tweddle, J. Moulden and E. Logan Council for British Archaeology York 1999 ISBN: 1-902771-06-0 *** Fair descriptions of composition. About 10 good illustrations = of inscribed designs. Early period in Regia...be careful of too early. Wikinger Museum Haithabu: Schaufenster einer fruhen Stadt Hildegard Elsner Karl Wachholtz Verlag Neumunster (This is the guidebook for the Hedeby museum in Germany. The text = is in German, and=20 there is no publication date or ISBN. It was purchased in the early = '90's.) *** Few pictures of the Hedeby finds. (If you can get a hold of = this volume, it is very detailed on quite a number of items.) Jorvik Viking Centre Information Pack (This is a booklet from the JVC, and if there was a publisher, = date, or ISBN, it has since=20 been lost by me. It dates from approximately the mid-'80's.) *** Good description on pottery production in simple, easy to = understand language. Has two good pictures (detailed) of domestic items and also of a = couple of crucible in the write-up on metalworking in Jorvik. Hope this helps.=20 Bill ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3B5B7.1D19F970 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's very helpful, Bill!
 
I have a few of those books and will = check through=20 them again for pottery items/info. I must have overlooked.
And I'll work on tracking down those = that I don't=20 yet have.
 
Thanks very much!
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 VIKING@inthedanelaw.fsnet= .co.uk=20
Sent: Thursday, November 27, = 2003 10:14=20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] = pottery

For the pottery minded among us (sorry that the alignment doesn't = look very=20 nice, cut and paste doesn't work well apparently with my web-based = email)

From my library, these are the pottery references that really are = worth the=20 read. Several of the volumes discussed pottery, but not=20 types/shapes/compostion...really only dealing with pottery as a trade=20 item.

The Archaeology of York: The Pottery, 16/6, Pottery from 46-54=20 Fishergate

    A.J. Mainman

    Council for British Archaology

    London

    1993

    ISBN: 1-872414-31-1

    *** One of the best works on the finds. Anglian = through=20 Viking Age York (and beyond). Good

    description of forms and composition with good=20 illustrations.

 

From Viking to Crusader, Scandinavia and Europe, 800-1200

    General Eds: Else Roesdahl and David M. = Wilson

    Rizzoli International Publications, Inc.

    New York

    1992

    ISBN: 0-8478-1625-7

    *** Surprisingly few pictures, but fairly good=20 descriptions.

The Vikings (A Publication of the British Museum and the = Metropolitan=20 Museum of Art)

    James Graham-Campbell and Dafydd Kidd

    Jarrold and Sons, Ltd.

    Norwich

    1980

    ISBN: 0-688-03603-1 (William Morrow and Co., = Inc.)

            =    =20 0-87099-219-8 (Metropolitan Museum of Art)

            =    =20 0-87099-220-1 (pbk) (Metropolitan Museum of Art)

    *** General information, but some very nice, = large=20 pictures showing detail

The Archaeology of York: The Small Finds, 17/14, Craft, Industry = And=20 Everyday Life

    A.J. Mainman and N.S.H. Rogers

    Council for British Archaeology

    York

    2000

    ISBN: 1-902771-11-7

    *** Good simple description of types...not heavy = on=20 technical details.

The Archaeology of York: Anglian York, 7/2, Anglian York: A Survey = of the=20 Evidence

    D. Tweddle, J. Moulden and E. Logan

    Council for British Archaeology

    York

    1999

    ISBN: 1-902771-06-0

    *** Fair descriptions of composition. About 10 = good=20 illustrations of inscribed designs.

     Early period in Regia...be careful of too=20 early.

Wikinger Museum Haithabu: Schaufenster einer fruhen Stadt

    Hildegard Elsner

    Karl Wachholtz Verlag

    Neumunster

    (This is the guidebook for the Hedeby museum in = Germany.=20 The text is in German, and

   there is no publication date or ISBN. It was purchased = in the=20 early '90's.)

    *** Few pictures of the Hedeby finds. (If you = can get a=20 hold of this volume, it is very detailed

    on quite a number of items.)

Jorvik Viking Centre Information Pack

    (This is a booklet from the JVC, and if there = was a=20 publisher, date, or ISBN, it has since

    been lost by me. It dates from approximately the = mid-'80's.)

    *** Good description on pottery production in = simple,=20 easy to understand language. Has

    two good pictures (detailed) of domestic items = and also=20 of a couple of crucible in the

    write-up on metalworking in Jorvik.

Hope this helps.

Bill

 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3B5B7.1D19F970-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 29 04:37:49 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 05:37:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Regia-NA] pottery Message-ID: <6633803.1070080669663.JavaMail.www@wwinf3006> ------=_Part_403_12741775.1070080669661 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My pleasure! :o) Bill (Leifr) ------=_Part_403_12741775.1070080669661 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My pleasure!  :o)

 

Bill (Leifr)

------=_Part_403_12741775.1070080669661-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 29 04:45:57 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Martin Field) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:45:57 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions References: <010901c3b569$4d291f40$678a0d0c@house> Message-ID: <001301c3b633$b0129120$7900a8c0@field> Hi Conall We do really need to retain some benefits of membership so please don't be too frustrated by our withholding information from our 'Membership Handbook' - as it would be an understatement to say that a great deal of time, research and experience has gone into compiling this. Having said that, we do have rates for students and the unemployed if that applies to you. You are very welcome to contact me off line if you wish.. All the best Martin --RANA Memberships ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conall" To: Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nicholson, Andrew" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:59 AM > Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Introduction and Questions > > > >I'll mail you an early draft of the Handbook section on Irish Dress if > you'd > like. > > Guðrum > > > > Greetings all, > I guess I am behind on this, but was it decided that I need to be a paid > member before I can obtain a copy of the Irish Dress Guidelines? I would be > happy to be a member, but it will have to be a while yet due to my > ridiculously limited budget, probably until at least January. I was just > hoping for some more information. > > I am sort of working out here in relative isolation, and just wondering > what I needed to do. > > Slainte, > > Conall > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 30 19:45:58 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:45:58 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] source for goat hide? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C3B750.AABFF780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shoe-making help needed! Does anyone know of any online/mailorder sources for thick goatskin? I can't get the stitching correct because our available leather is too = thin... --Dirk ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C3B750.AABFF780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Shoe-making help needed!
 
Does anyone know of any = online/mailorder=20 sources for thick goatskin?
I can't get the stitching correct = because our=20 available leather is too thin...
 
--Dirk
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C3B750.AABFF780-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 30 20:06:42 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (steve anderson) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] source for goat hide? References: Message-ID: <3FCA4DD2.1F79D7E4@cox.net> --------------51CDF6167F816C4D9843AE63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have found http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/ to be an excellant source of leather. He has goat hide (don't know if it's thick enough, though). valbjörkr crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote: > Shoe-making help needed! Does anyone know of any online/mailorder > sources for thick goatskin?I can't get the stitching correct because > our available leather is too thin... --Dirk --------------51CDF6167F816C4D9843AE63 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have found
http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/
to be an excellant source of leather.
He has goat hide (don't know if it's thick enough, though).
 

valbjörkr
 
 

crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote:

Shoe-making help needed! Does anyone know of any online/mailorder sources for thick goatskin?I can't get the stitching correct because our available leather is too thin... --Dirk
--------------51CDF6167F816C4D9843AE63-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 30 21:37:02 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:37:02 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] source for goat hide? References: <3FCA4DD2.1F79D7E4@cox.net> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B760.2EC34B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks! It's a start... --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 Wrom: CDDJBLVLMHAALPTCX To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] source for goat hide? I have found=20 http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/=20 to be an excellant source of leather.=20 He has goat hide (don't know if it's thick enough, though).=20 =20 valbj=F6rkr=20 =20 =20 crmayhew@hotmail.com wrote:=20 Shoe-making help needed! Does anyone know of any online/mailorder = sources for thick goatskin?I can't get the stitching correct because our = available leather is too thin... --Dirk ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B760.2EC34B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks!  It's a = start...
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 steve anderson =
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 = 3:06=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] source = for goat=20 hide?

I have found
http://www.brettunsvilla= ge.com/leather/=20
to be an excellant source of leather.
He has goat hide (don't = know if=20 it's thick enough, though).
 =20

valbj=F6rkr
 
 =20

crmayhew@hotmail.com = wrote:=20

Shoe-making help=20 needed! Does = anyone know=20 of any online/mailorder sources for thick = goatskin?I can't get the stitching correct = because our=20 available leather is too thin... --Dirk
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C3B760.2EC34B40-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Nov 30 20:36:01 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J Hill) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:36:01 -0800 Subject: [Regia-NA] OT: Luke Message-ID: <00b301c3b781$9252f400$01fea8c0@yourn3ty7athd5> My apologies for the cross postings....... To each & every one who sent their support : THANK YOU! Luke is home and, altho' weak, is doing well. He is doing well mentally, too, thanks be to God. We were worried after a 7 hour seizure, of course. The pneumonia sapped his strength, but his youth & good health are in his favour. Jennifer/Ælfgifu Jennifer Hill Ælfgifu Wes ðu hal. Madly tatting away Nata # 585 From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Nov 21 22:15:41 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Schuster, Robert L.) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:15:41 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] email problems Message-ID: for anyone who had tried to contact me in the last few weeks and haven't = heard back from me, I probably haven't gotten the message. somehow the email monkeys here at work have blocked ALOT of incoming = mail (at first it was only overseas accounts but now I see several folks = I frequently correspond with are also effected) until further notice please use my yahoo account when trying to contact = me. Halvgrimr halvgrimr at yahoo dot com From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Nov 26 15:57:27 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CR Mayhew Comcast Account) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:57:27 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chests References: Message-ID: <002301c3b435$fe23eee0$1b3b2944@hppav> Sorry! Sent to the wrong address--I should get more coffee... --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Chests > Just in case you're interested in the source. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: HPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFG > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 11:47 PM > Subject: Re: Re: [Regia-NA] Chests > > > > The drawing of the box (without legs but the same joint design) is on page > > 273 of "The Viking" by Almgren. It is in front of the nearest tent. The > > caption for the drawing says that all of the items shown came from a grave > > ship, but does not say which one. The Mastermyr chest has a similar joint > > with very shot legs ("The Mastermyr Find" by Arwidsson and Bert. > > > > John > > > > >Wrom: GMEPYOQKEDOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNV > > >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:26:27 +0100 (CET) > > > > > >Russ, this would be a great simple chest, and you can dimension it to > what > > >you might find convenient. I think avoiding the scallops would be best > > >(John, did your source have that?...I looked for the pic and couldn't > find > > >it in the book...can you remember the page?). And he hit the nail > > >squarely...furniture. Can you say forge, boys and girls? Somebody > > >mentioned that this weekend...no who was that? Hmmmm.... > > > > > >Bill > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment > equipment, > > video game reviews, and more here. > > http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat Nov 29 15:29:24 2003 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (CR Mayhew Comcast Account) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:29:24 -0500 Subject: [Regia-NA] thick goat hide source? Message-ID: <001301c3b68d$920f3520$1b3b2944@hppav> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3B663.A8C07AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shoe-making help needed! Does anyone know of any online/mailorder sources for thick goatskin? I can't get the stitching correct because our available leather is too = thin... --Dirk ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C3B663.A8C07AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Shoe-making help needed!
 
Does anyone know of any = online/mailorder=20 sources for thick goatskin?
I can't get the stitching correct = because our=20 available leather is too thin...
 
--Dirk
 
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