[Regia-NA] Q re: bone working
Tate William T Jr TSgt 352 OSS/SCSC
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Fri, 30 May 2003 06:47:53 -0000
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Jennifer,
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I can readily understand the getting your fingers stuck into so many =
things!
Everytime I turn around I'm always trying something new. My current =
project
is period writing and book making. And a replica of the Gokstad =
"backpack".
And some bone lucet frames. And... I have to keep a list. :o)
=20
In regards to bones and construction. The primary material for combs =
was
antler. I do know that there were some bone finds. But I don't know =
of any
wooden ones. Working bone isn't too difficult, I wrote up a basic "how =
to"
article for "Chronicle" this last issue. If I can do it, anyone can do =
it!
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I'm not a female kit expert...I've been struggling to construct stuff =
for my
daughter. But I think the preferred female belt is tablet-woven for =
most
all cultures, save maybe Norman.
=20
Bill
=20
WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF=20
Security Manager=20
352 OSS/SCSC=20
DSN 238-4827 (non-secure)=20
-----Original Message-----
From: J Hill [mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:37 AM
To: list-regia-na@lig.net
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Q re: bone working
Bill, a knife & a comb are on my list after making clothing & shoes. =
So...
I'm thinking a few months down the pike. However, I'm trying to get my
resources together as soon as possible.
Were wooden combs available? Useful? Totally unsuitable? =20
As for the antler combs, I think the winged ones are really beautiful.
Now, I've never worked w/ bone, antler, or wood, so I'm probably =
getting
myself into trouble here. :>) I can just see me after having gotten =
almost
finished & then something breaks!
At least I have short hair. Not appropriately period, but easier on =
combs.
[I keep trying to grow it out, but it is just naturally curly enough =
that I
look like I've been stuck into a light socket &, instead of growing =
long, it
grows OUT. Not fun, at all. The kind of hair that, after one first =
cuts it
short, one never ever ever grows it out again.]
Re: girdles? Tablet woven? Leather? I think I'd rather go for tablet
woven or inkle woven, if possible.
&, I have plans to build a warp weighted loom this summer, if I ever =
get to
the current project on the floor loom & the next project for which the =
warp
is dyed & waiting....
You do realize that I keep getting so interested in the multiplicity of
information that I've not been to bed before midnight for days.........
Jennifer
Jennifer Hill
=C6lfgifu
Wes =F0u hal.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tate William T Jr TSgt 352 =
<mailto:william.tate@mildenhall.af.mil>
OSS/SCSC=20
To: list-regia-na@lig.net <mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net> =20
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Q re: bone working
Jennifer,
=20
The easiest way to get bone is to check at your local pet shop and buy =
up
some of the pre-cleaned, pre-sanitized ones. It takes away a great =
deal of
mess when cleaning. Steer clear of the "smoked" bones as normally the
process used to make them includes cooking which will alter the =
physical
structure of the bone. You can use the large cow thigh bones, but they =
take
considerable work to clean up. If you are using your own bone from =
home,
don't use any that have been baked...again this alters the bone and =
makes it
weak. Some of the easiest bone to use for needles, that you can get =
from
home cooking, is pork. If you are making a comb, bone isn't the best
material as it is not as strong as antler, so if you can spring for =
that, I
would recommend going that route. Comb making isn't the easiest =
skeletal
material project, so seeing your project snap teeth shortly after being =
put
to use can be frustrating. There are a few comb makers here in the UK, =
but
as I just said, comb-making is difficult, so they can be pricey. Are =
you
looking to make a comb? I have made a few and would be eager to see =
what
you are doing.
=20
For our time period, use only vegetable tanned leather.
=20
Bill
=20
WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF=20
Security Manager=20
352 OSS/SCSC=20
DSN 238-4827 (non-secure)=20
-----Original Message-----
From: J Hill [mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:30 PM
To: Regia; Mead-Hall; huscarls@egroups.com
Subject: [Regia-NA] Q re: bone working
Magnus mentioned that he has bone blanks for needles - thanks so much,
Magnus!
I was wondering where people go to get bone strong enough & large =
enough to
make carved combs? Or do you buy them?
Also, where do people go for larger pieces of leather? Now that Tandy =
is
out of business, I don't know where to go. The saddle shop has =
leftovers
which are great for shoes & small bags, but the only larger pieces are =
very
thick & un-yielding.
Martin: Have you gotten my first envelope, yet? =20
Yrs,=20
Jennifer Hill
=C6lfgifu
Wes =F0u hal.
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<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jennifer,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I can
readily understand the getting your fingers stuck into so many things!
Everytime I turn around I'm always trying something new. My current
project is period writing and book making. And a replica of the Gokstad
"backpack". And some bone lucet frames. And... I have to keep
a list. :o)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In
regards to bones and construction. The primary material for combs was
antler. I do know that there were some bone finds. But I don't know
of any wooden ones. Working bone isn't too difficult, I wrote up a basic
"how to" article for "Chronicle" this last issue. If I can do it, anyone
can do it!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'm
not a female kit expert...I've been struggling to construct stuff for my
daughter. But I think the preferred female belt is tablet-woven for most
all cultures, save maybe Norman.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=832534006-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Security Manager</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>352
OSS/SCSC</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>DSN 238-4827 (non-secure)</FONT>
</P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> J Hill
[mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 30, 2003 6:37
AM<BR><B>To:</B> list-regia-na@lig.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Regia-NA] Q re:
bone working<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill, a knife & a comb are on my list after
making clothing & shoes. So... I'm thinking a few months down the
pike. However, I'm trying to get my resources together as soon as
possible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Were wooden combs available? Useful?
Totally unsuitable? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for the antler combs, I think the winged ones
are really beautiful.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, I've never worked w/ bone, antler, or wood,
so I'm probably getting myself into trouble here. :>) I can
just see me after having gotten almost finished & then something
breaks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>At least I have short hair. Not
appropriately period, but easier on combs. [I keep trying to grow it
out, but it is just naturally curly enough that I look like I've been stuck
into a light socket &, instead of growing long, it grows OUT. Not
fun, at all. The kind of hair that, after one first cuts it short, one
never ever ever grows it out again.]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Re: girdles? Tablet woven?
Leather? I think I'd rather go for tablet woven or inkle woven, if
possible.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&, I have plans to build a warp weighted loom
this summer, if I ever get to the current project on the floor loom & the
next project for which the warp is dyed & waiting....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You do realize that I keep getting so interested
in the multiplicity of information that I've not been to bed before midnight
for days......... Jennifer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Jennifer Hill<BR>Ælfgifu<BR>Wes ðu
hal.<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=william.tate@mildenhall.af.mil
href="mailto:william.tate@mildenhall.af.mil">Tate William T Jr TSgt 352
OSS/SCSC</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Regia-NA] Q re: bone
working</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jennifer,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The easiest way to get bone is to check at your local pet shop and
buy up some of the pre-cleaned, pre-sanitized ones. It takes away a
great deal of mess when cleaning. Steer clear of the "smoked" bones as
normally the process used to make them includes cooking which will alter the
physical structure of the bone. You can use the large cow thigh bones,
but they take considerable work to clean up. If you are using your own
bone from home, don't use any that have been baked...again this alters the
bone and makes it weak. Some of the easiest bone to use for needles,
that you can get from home cooking, is pork. If you are
making a comb, bone isn't the best material as it is not as strong as
antler, so if you can spring for that, I would recommend going that
route. Comb making isn't the easiest skeletal material project, so
seeing your project snap teeth shortly after being put to use can be
frustrating. There are a few comb makers here in the UK, but as I just
said, comb-making is difficult, so they can be pricey. Are you looking
to make a comb? I have made a few and would be eager to see what you
are doing.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>For our time period, use only vegetable tanned
leather.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=441181606-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT> </DIV><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Security Manager</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>352
OSS/SCSC</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>DSN 238-4827 (non-secure)</FONT>
</P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> J Hill
[mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003
9:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Regia; Mead-Hall;
huscarls@egroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Regia-NA] Q re: bone
working<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Magnus mentioned that he has bone blanks for
needles - thanks so much, Magnus!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was wondering where people go to get bone
strong enough & large enough to make carved combs? Or do you buy
them?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, where do people go for larger pieces of
leather? Now that Tandy is out of business, I don't know where to
go. The saddle shop has leftovers which are great for shoes &
small bags, but the only larger pieces are very thick &
un-yielding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Martin: Have you gotten my first
envelope, yet? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yrs, <BR>Jennifer Hill<BR>Ælfgifu<BR>Wes ðu
hal.<BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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