[Regia-NA] curious
Tate William T Jr TSgt 352 OSS/SCSC
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Mon, 19 May 2003 08:08:49 -0000
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Jennifer,
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Grantanbrygc, my local Regia group, is a group composed mainly of
Anglo-Danes. We've adopted this to reflect the population of East =
Anglia at
the time.=20
=20
The interaction of the local populations (Saxon) and the newcomers =
(Norse),
varied depending on the area of England and time period. For the most =
part,
relations were good. There were of course, rough points, such as the =
St.
Brice's Day Massacre. The Norse themselves were quick to adopt local
customs, mannerisms and dress. Here in East Anglia, most of the Norse =
were
quickly absorbed into the local population due to intermarriages. So =
in
later periods, it would have been a bit difficult to distinguish a =
Saxon
from a Viking by general appearance. About the only way I know of =
would be
by names, and even then there was adoption...a Dane, married to a Saxon
woman, might give his children A/S names. =20
=20
Earlier, the Norse would have been conquerors, taking what they wanted, =
and
occupying a foreign land; such as the wintering of the army at =
Thetford.
But, as years would pass between the successive changing of territorial
control, the newcomers would have become just the same as any other =
local;
subservient to whichever lord was in power at the time. New =
settlements
would have happened, with pure Norse inhabitants, but again, over time, =
the
distinction would have faded with movements of persons in and out, and
intermarriages. I don't believe the image we have of the Viking =
"manifest
destiny" (the bold adventurer, single-handedly going forth to claim a =
new
land) is appropriate for us; I think that is a little stereotypical as =
well.
=20
The language barrier wouldn't have been too difficult to overcome as =
the
Norse would have started using A/S, and vice-versa...why we can trace =
Norse
words in our vocabulary.
=20
This is written quickly off the cuff, and very generalized, but I hope =
it
answers some of your questions.
=20
Bill =20
=20
WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF=20
Security Manager=20
352 OSS/SCSC=20
DSN 238-4827 (non-secure)=20
"France's position will change if Iraq uses chemical or biological =
weapons."
Jean-David Levitte, French ambassador.=20
They'll drop their hands from overhead, fall to the ground and curl =
into a
fetal position.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: J Hill [mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 4:40 AM
To: Regia, NA
Subject: [Regia-NA] curious
I am curious about what things Norse affect the daily life of an =
Anglo-Saxon
of the same period. That is, Anglo-Dane, Viking, etc... =20
Would the people have generally had friendly relations? Intermarried?
Shared skills?
Or... was there a sense of "this is my valley & you need to keep yr =
stinking
fingers out of it!" attitude?
Please feel free to respond off-list so the rest of the list doesn't =
have to
endure my beginner's laundry list of questions.... =20
Jennifer Hill
=C6lfgifu
Wes =F0u hal.
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<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jennifer,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Grantanbrygc, my local Regia group, is a group composed mainly of
Anglo-Danes. We've adopted this to reflect the population of East Anglia
at the time. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
interaction of the local populations (Saxon) and the newcomers (Norse), varied
depending on the area of England and time period. For the most part,
relations were good. There were of course, rough points, such as the St.
Brice's Day Massacre. The Norse themselves were quick to adopt local
customs, mannerisms and dress. Here in East Anglia, most of the Norse were
quickly absorbed into the local population due to intermarriages. So in
later periods, it would have been a bit difficult to distinguish a Saxon
from a Viking by general appearance. About the only way I know of would be
by names, and even then there was adoption...a Dane, married to a
Saxon woman, might give his children A/S names.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Earlier, the Norse would have been conquerors, taking what they wanted,
and occupying a foreign land; such as the wintering of the army at
Thetford. But, as years would pass between the successive changing of
territorial control, the newcomers would have become just the same as any other
local; subservient to whichever lord was in power at the time. New
settlements would have happened, with pure Norse inhabitants, but again, over
time, the distinction would have faded with movements of persons in and out, and
intermarriages. I don't believe the image we have of the Viking "manifest
destiny" (the bold adventurer, single-handedly going forth to claim a
new land) is appropriate for us; I think that is a little stereotypical as
well. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
language barrier wouldn't have been too difficult to overcome as the Norse would
have started using A/S, and vice-versa...why we can trace Norse words in our
vocabulary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This
is written quickly off the cuff, and very generalized, but I hope it answers
some of your questions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=713411307-19052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bill </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>WILLIAM T. TATE, JR., TSgt, USAF</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Security Manager</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>352
OSS/SCSC</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>DSN 238-4827 (non-secure)</FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">"France's position will change if Iraq uses
chemical or biological weapons." Jean-David Levitte, French ambassador.</FONT>
<BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">They'll drop their hands from overhead, fall to
the ground and curl into a fetal position.</FONT> </P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> J Hill
[mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 19, 2003 4:40
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Regia, NA<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Regia-NA]
curious<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am curious about what things Norse affect the
daily life of an Anglo-Saxon of the same period. That is, Anglo-Dane,
Viking, etc... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would the people have generally had friendly
relations? Intermarried? Shared skills?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Or... was there a sense of "this is my valley
& you need to keep yr stinking fingers out of it!" attitude?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please feel free to respond off-list so the rest
of the list doesn't have to endure my beginner's laundry list of
questions.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Jennifer Hill<BR>Ælfgifu<BR>Wes ðu
hal.<BR></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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