[Regia-NA] intro
Ian Uzzell
list-regia-na@lig.net
Thu, 15 May 2003 19:34:45 +0100
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Hello Jennifer
I have already sent you a short reply via Theod, but will try to answer =
your specific questions in this mail.
The dyes commonly available to the Saxons in England during the period =
you mention are Weld (for Yellow (and green if iron is used )), Madder =
(for orange) and Woad (for blue). Dyeing with Weld and Madder is quite =
straightforward - just using the dyestuff, mordant (usually alum) and =
water.
Dyeing authentically with woad is a lengthy and smelly process using =
urine. For convenience nowadays we tend to use indigo and dyeing with =
more modern chemicals and a result can be obtained the same day - =
usually darker than dyeing with woad.
You can use the leaves of the woad plants that have been pulled. The =
leaves from the first year of the plant's life are best as they are =
bigger and stronger, but you can get a result from the second year =
leaves.
We have only once done a fully authentic woad dye and when the time came =
to take the wool out of the dye bath my wife (Hazel - Regia's textile =
coordinator)) my daughter (Jenny - the Chair of Regia Anglorum's High =
Witan) and my son-in law Jon (A deputy Military Training Officer and =
deputy Master at Arms in Regia) all fled the scene until I had washed =
the wool to get rid of the smell (I do not have a sense of smell :-) )
A viking tent has an A frame with the frames extending up out of the =
front and rear of the tents with animal type decoration on them. They =
are self standing. The Saxon style tent (or geteld - pronounced yeteld) =
is usually a ridge tent and requires to be pegged, although in Regia in =
UK there are some that have an A frame.
I hope that helps a little
Ian Uzzell=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: J Hill=20
To: Regia, NA=20
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:39 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] intro
Hello. I am interested in the Anglo-Saxon period approx 8th/9th C. I =
know less than nothing & would greatly appreciate any assistance.
I believe it is easier to begin well than to have to go back & do =
things over after discovering that one has everything wrong.
The books available at the local library hale from the 30's. =
Suggestions?
Also, I hope to do some dye projects this summer & would like your =
thoughts on materials... I'm familiar w/ where to purchase natural =
dyestuffs like indigo, madder, etc, but am not sure of the safety =
precautions, nor exactly what would be available to the people in that =
period.
Woad is a noxious weed here in northeastern Nevada & is prohibited by =
law. [to grow, not to use] I believe they have a woad warrior thingie =
going on... pulling the plants & leaving them on the ground. If I were =
to go on this eradication jaunt, would the plants be useful for dyeing?
What is the difference between a Viking tent & a geteld? [how is that =
pronounced, anyway? w/ a "g" or a "y" sound?]
I recognized Carolyn Priest-Dornan's name [did I get it right?] from a =
couple of weaving lists & from her excellent web site.
I spin & weave, but have hesitated to get involved in "natural" dyeing =
due to health concerns - I'm very chemically sensitive. However, I've =
tho't about giving it a go this summer, wearing suitable protective =
gear.
As for clothing, camp gear, crafts [I want to learn naalbinding & =
sprang & WW weaving], I am open to suggestions & eager to learn.
Yrs, Jennifer
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello Jennifer</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have already sent you a =
short reply via=20
Theod, but will try to answer your specific questions in this =
mail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The dyes commonly available to the =
Saxons in=20
England during the period you mention are Weld (for Yellow (and green if =
iron is=20
used )), Madder (for orange) and Woad (for blue). Dyeing with Weld =
and=20
Madder is quite straightforward - just using the dyestuff, mordant =
(usually=20
alum) and water.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dyeing authentically with woad is a =
lengthy and=20
smelly process using urine. For convenience nowadays we tend to =
use indigo=20
and dyeing with more modern chemicals and a result can be obtained the =
same day=20
- usually darker than dyeing with woad.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can use the leaves of the woad =
plants that have=20
been pulled. The leaves from the first year of the plant's life =
are best=20
as they are bigger and stronger, but you can get a result from the =
second year=20
leaves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We have only once done a fully =
authentic woad dye=20
and when the time came to take the wool out of the dye bath my wife =
(Hazel -=20
Regia's textile coordinator)) my daughter (Jenny - the Chair of Regia =
Anglorum's=20
High Witan) and my son-in law Jon (A deputy Military Training =
Officer=20
and deputy Master at Arms in Regia) all fled the scene until I =
had=20
washed the wool to get rid of the smell (I do not have a sense of smell =
:-)=20
)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A viking tent has an A frame with the =
frames=20
extending up out of the front and rear of the tents with animal =
type=20
decoration on them. They are self standing. The Saxon style =
tent (or=20
geteld - pronounced yeteld) is usually a ridge tent and requires to be =
pegged,=20
although in Regia in UK there are some that have an A =
frame.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope that helps a little</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ian Uzzell</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dwelshladygwen@citlink.net =
href=3D"mailto:welshladygwen@citlink.net">J=20
Hill</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlist-regia-na@lig.net=20
href=3D"mailto:list-regia-na@lig.net">Regia, NA</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 15, 2003 =
5:39=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Regia-NA] intro</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello. I am interested in the =
Anglo-Saxon=20
period approx 8th/9th C. I know less than nothing & would =
greatly=20
appreciate any assistance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I believe it is easier to begin well =
than to have=20
to go back & do things over after discovering that one has =
everything=20
wrong.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The books available at the local =
library hale=20
from the 30's. Suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also, I hope to do some dye projects =
this summer=20
& would like your thoughts on materials... I'm familiar w/ where =
to=20
purchase natural dyestuffs like indigo, madder, etc, but am not sure =
of the=20
safety precautions, nor exactly what would be available to the people =
in that=20
period.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Woad is a noxious weed here in =
northeastern=20
Nevada & is prohibited by law. [to grow, not to use] I =
believe they=20
have a woad warrior thingie going on... pulling the plants & =
leaving them=20
on the ground. If I were to go on this eradication jaunt, would =
the=20
plants be useful for dyeing?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is the difference between a =
Viking tent=20
& a geteld? [how is that pronounced, anyway? w/ a "g" or a =
"y"=20
sound?]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recognized Carolyn Priest-Dornan's =
name [did I=20
get it right?] from a couple of weaving lists & from her excellent =
web=20
site.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I spin & weave, but have =
hesitated to get=20
involved in "natural" dyeing due to health concerns - I'm very =
chemically=20
sensitive. However, I've tho't about giving it a go this summer, =
wearing=20
suitable protective gear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As for clothing, camp gear, crafts [I =
want to=20
learn naalbinding & sprang & WW weaving], I am open to =
suggestions=20
& eager to learn.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yrs,=20
Jennifer</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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