[Regia-NA] SCA-style vs. Regia-style discourse
Eileen Young
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Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:31:28 -0500
Thank you, Thora.
Carolyn Priest-Dorman <capriest@cs.vassar.edu> wrote:
>If someone is looking for solid factual documentation, and is frustrated
>because she isn't finding it, it isn't helpful for her to be hearing
>something like this.
>
>>But then, there isn't any solid
>>documentation for the existence of children, either. We know this, we have
>>three on site, and trying to explain them away is just the pits...:-))
>
>Nonsense! There's plenty of solid carbon-dated evidence for the existence
>of children of all ages throughout history, in the form of skeletons. (No,
>as a mother I don't like to contemplate the existence of dead children
>either, but the truth is important and sometimes needs to be said.)
>
>It is more helpful to the questioner if the people who respond either
>answer "yes, here's the documentation," or "X has the documentation, go ask
>her," or "no, I don't have documentation." Rhetorically phrased factually
>incorrect responses don't do anything to either help or calm down the
>frustrated questioner; they just inflame the situation.
>
>I have noticed this particular culture-clash problem repeatedly on this
>particular list. It simply is not easy to orient oneself to Regia's world
>view and values from the remote location of the New World. Kim has gone a
>long way toward providing insight into the problem when he points out in
>his most recent Regia-NA post the basic penury of Regia as an organization,
>and how Regia can't often underwrite publication of members'
>research. This accounts for the paucity of membership and/or
>organizational handbooks, etc. (I think I have a copy of every official
>Regia document--handbook, bylaws, and fighting rules. Is that it?)
>
>However, most of the results of research in the SCA are similarly
>unpublished. And however easy it is to take pot-shots at the SCA for its
>base level of inauthenticity, the simple fact that serious high-level
>researchers live, research, play, and produce documentation there simply
>cannot be laughed off by anyone. The SCA solves this problem by vigorously
>promoting (and rewarding) discourse among the membership about factual
>historic information they've found, in the interest of ensuring a more
>authentic game.
>
>In the SCA, when someone asks for documentation it's because he wants to
>make or do a more period thing. It's not a challenge to the communal
>knowledge of the entire SCA--it's a praiseworthy impulse seeking an
>outlet. When North American SCA people come to Regia, as I did, they seek
>to be oriented to the knowledge base of Regia in just the same way and for
>just the same reason. They express this need by talking to the only
>populace they can lasso: the e-groups. But I've noticed that many times
>what they find is a baffling silence, a bewildering language barrier (it
>*seems* like English, much of the time), or assertions about what is and
>isn't historically authentic by people who get hostile when their
>statements are probed for the underlying sources.
>
>SCA people need to understand that the rank and file Regia member does not
>always know what the documentation is, because that's the express job of
>the local Authenticity Officer. (This is not a criticism! I'm willing to
>bet that the rank and file don't know much about what the local group's
>ledgers look like either, for the same reason.) But in the SCA, there is
>no "Authenticity Officer" post. Regia people need to understand that the
>insistence of SCA people on sources of fact is not a challenge, but the
>result of the deliberate "authenticity vacuum" in the SCA hierarchy. And
>both sets of people need to understand that if Regia-NA is to flourish we
>will need to work toward creating some middle path that satisfies both Old
>World operating methods and New World acculturation.
>
>Remember, the ultimate goal here is to have fun being authentic; that's why
>we're all here, isn't it?
>
>
>Carolyn Priest-Dorman Þóra Sharptooth
> http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~capriest/thora.html
>
>
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