[Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
Phil
list-regia-na@lig.net
Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:48:39 -0000
Ah! In which case it is formed by the action of the plough. It has a natural
inclination to veer to one side, this is then corrected, but the plough
tends to then veer in the opposite direction - ploughing in a straight line
is, apparently, very difficult. This gentle reversed 'S' profile has nothing
to do with avoiding your Lord's land.
What is quite common however is when some rich person has enclosed land for
a deer park. It is not uncommon to come across roads that make a big broad
sweep, seemingly for no reason. occasionally one can still find traces of
the original road running through a deer park. But more commonly the park
has been returned to agricultural use, but the now diverted road continues
in use.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Kim Siddorn" <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
> That's what I mean. You'll find one in many an English village.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Kim Siddorn
>
> When I go forward, follow me:
> When I falter, support me:
> When I retreat - RUN!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil" <phils@clara.net>
> To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
>
>
> > Don't know about not being able to complain about working on the Lord's
> > land, but usually when roads go around things there's a good reason for
> it.
> > The best thing to look out for are where a road snakes in a reversed 's'
> > profile, this is usually the consequence of following the edge of a
field.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J. Kim Siddorn" <kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
> >
> >
> > > Best recorded nation in the world Phil.
> > >
> > > I can see strip field boundaries from my front door as the side of
> Dundry
> > > hill faces me and as the sun sets, you can see them still - along with
> > their
> > > enormous headlands required to turn an ox team as distinct from the
much
> > > shorter headland needed to turn a horse powered plough.
> > >
> > > Speaking of field boundaries, in the middle of many small English
> > villages,
> > > the road makes a curious - and very characteristic - left-right-left
> > dogleg
> > > (or 'tother way around). I understand that you are driving around one
of
> > the
> > > corners of the Lord's field around which the village was built, thus
> > no-one
> > > could complain they had a long way to go to do their work on the
Lord's
> > > land.
> > >
> > > Any comments on this?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Kim Siddorn
> > >
> > > When I go forward, follow me:
> > > When I falter, support me:
> > > When I retreat - RUN!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phil" <phils@clara.net>
> > > To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
> > >
> > >
> > > I would totally contradict this. 3 field rotation would seem to date
to
> > the
> > > middle Saxon period when as far as we can tell the practice of
> subdivided
> > > open fields came in to being.
> > >
> > > The idea it came to Britain in the C17 is patently fallacious. There
is
> a
> > > village, in Gloucestershire from memory, which still has a set of
> 'balls'
> > > for allocating the strips (furlongs), while the amount of extant ridge
> and
> > > furrow across the UK is enormous. There are also extant 'field books'
> > which
> > > detail who held furlongs and the rotation of crops from many parts of
> > > Britain. For example there is a famous C14 book which covers the
fields
> in
> > > the West of Cambridge. It is possible to piece together very detailed
> > > histories of these field systems and the ways in which they were used.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: crmayhew@hotmail.com
> > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
> > >
> > >
> > > I think it's provenanceable, though not in Regia's time period.
> > >
> > > According to Brian Fagan, in his book "The Little Ice Age: How
> Climate
> > > Made History," a slow agricultural revolution took place in Europe.
It
> > > started in the Low Countries in the 16th century, moved to Britain in
> the
> > > 17th-18th centuries and eventually made it to France in the 19th
> century.
> > > The adherence to tradition and the slowness of its adoption in France
> > helped
> > > cause food shortages which contributed to the French Revolution.
> > >
> > > The major innovations came about as a result of the plague, which
> > cleared
> > > many small farms of tenants and resulted in fewer people to work the
> land.
> > > At the same time, the little ice age was starting and average
> temperatures
> > > were lower--thus, some crops that had always been grown failed
> repeatedly.
> > > The adaptations made in the Low Countries were great successes and
> slowly
> > > spread to other countries.
> > >
> > > Essentially, someone figured out that a system of 3 fields--one
> growing
> > > grain, the other growing turnips or other tubers, then the third
growing
> > > clover upon which cattle grazed-- produced better yields from all 3.
> The
> > 3
> > > crops were rotated through the 3 fields--first grain, then tubers
(which
> > > returned nitrogen to the soil), then clover & cows (clover allowed the
> > soil
> > > to rest and fed the cows, while the cows' manure got added to the soil
> the
> > > following year when the field was ploughed for planting grain).
> > >
> > > This is a simple summary of a topic that takes chapters to explain,
> but
> > > you get the idea. What I find fascinating is that this thing that we
> > assume
> > > is old is, in fact, very new. The best example I can think of of
folks
> > > *not* adapting and continuing to try to grow the same thing on the
same
> > land
> > > is in Greenland.
> > >
> > > --charlotte mayhew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Cuthwyn@aol.com
> > > To: list-regia-na@lig.net ; regia@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:22 AM
> > > Subject: [Regia-NA] Crop Rotation
> > >
> > >
> > > Since I've been in Regia I've become inclined to distrust what I
> > learned
> > > in school - but I was taught that the strip system of cultivation
> > included
> > > crop rotation - each person had strips in each of three big fields -
> which
> > > were part of an overall rotation. Now - was that a "horned helmet" -
or
> is
> > > it provenanceable?
> > >
> > > Aly
> > >
> > > "Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly"
> > > GK Chesterton
> > >
> > >
> > >
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