[Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank

[Hrolf Douglasson]

I need no crown.....my clothes and my shopping basket are more than enough
to show my rank,
along with my slaves and ervamts of course!!
vara
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicholson, Andrew" <andrew.nicholson@dumgal.gov.uk>
To: <list-regia-na@lig.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank


I'm not aware of a pictorial representation of anyone other than a known
royal wearing a crown - not even the overmighty eorls, but I'll check again
at home. Ducal coronets are a later medieval fashion. Not even our Atheling
wears a crown - so don't go giving him ideas!


Within Regia, one of the distinguishing items worn by higher ranking males
is the robe, as opposed to a tunic (or carring a baculus or mace - however,
the pesky Normans are known to indulge in all three even when they're only
Milites).

Having a personal banner-bearer, helm-bearer, cup-bearer and escorts are
also a good indication of status  :)  [and, indeed, h-b and c-b are
acknowledged positions of rank within our local group structure - along with
door-wardens and lepers). Likewise Ladies seen abroad with suitable
burden-laden stewards and porters can be presumed to bear significant rank.

Guğrum
(Jarl of Galweg - no coronet but loads of retainers)


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patchett [mailto:patchett@sympatico.ca]
> Sent: 29 May 2002 12:29
> To: Regia
> Subject: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've got an SCA-centric question for everyone.
>
> My husband and I hold some rank within the SCA, (we are a Viscount and
> Viscountess of Ealdormere).  We are working on making authentic kit,
> both for use in the SCA and Regia. We've finished a set of low/middle
> class clothing for each of us, and are now working on more / higher
> ranking clothing.  The problem arises in trying to continue to use the
> regalia expected for our rank in the SCA, while being as authentic as
> possible.
>
> We've seen crowns for Edward and Harold in the Bayeux
> tapestry, but none
> on William or any others.  Would dukes, earls, barons, etc. have worn
> similar coronets, or other symbols of rank, other than well ornamented
> clothing in rich colours?
> If anyone could point us towards relevant research material,  I would
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Beth Patchett
>
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