From MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:28:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:28:56 -0400 From: rmhowe MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Subject: [Regia-NA] German Replicas - High quality / Molds for casting, etc. http://www.hr-replikate.de/englisch/index.html Came upon this on the Meridies_Metalsmiths@yahoogroups.com list today. http://home.attbi.com/~klessig4/ Jim Klessig's photos of historical moulds for casting Magnus From knight1066@hotmail.com Wed, 01 May 2002 00:13:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 00:13:54 -0700 From: Chris Knight knight1066@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] German Replicas - High quality / Molds for casting, etc. WOW!! I am impressed. that stuff lokks great! Engenulf >From: rmhowe >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: - Atlantia , - Regia Anglorum - North >America >Subject: [Regia-NA] German Replicas - High quality / Molds for casting, >etc. >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:28:56 -0400 > >http://www.hr-replikate.de/englisch/index.html > >Came upon this on the Meridies_Metalsmiths@yahoogroups.com list today. > >http://home.attbi.com/~klessig4/ >Jim Klessig's photos of historical moulds for casting > >Magnus >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Wed, 1 May 2002 12:47:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:47:52 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Filming at Chippenham This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C1F10E.68384980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There will be a couple of bits of filming being done at Chippenham. There will be a small crew from London Weekend Television (yes, LWT!) = who are making a series about the history of the English language. They = will be shooting bits and pieces to show modern perception of our = ancestors, so just ignore them unless they speak to you directly. They = will also be there in the evening to film the shipburning and would like = some "faces lit by torchlight" shots.It is _possible_ they might want to = interview one or two people. A university group are making a CD rom about Arthur and want some = background stuff. I thought we might be nice to them and have offered = them a facility to wander about and shoot what they want in exchange for = a fulsome credit and their goodwill. They are, after all, likely to be = working in media in the years to come and one day might be important = ............ Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C1F10E.68384980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There will be a couple of bits of filming = being done at=20 Chippenham.
 
There will be a small crew from London = Weekend=20 Television (yes, LWT!) who are making a series about the history of the = English=20 language. They will be shooting bits and pieces to show modern = perception of our=20 ancestors, so just ignore them unless they speak to you directly. They = will also=20 be there in the evening to film the shipburning and would like some = "faces lit=20 by torchlight" shots.It is _possible_ they might want to interview one = or two=20 people.
 
A university group are making a CD rom about = Arthur and=20 want some background stuff. I thought we might be nice to them and have = offered=20 them a facility to wander about and shoot what they want in exchange for = a=20 fulsome credit and their goodwill. They are, after all, likely to be = working in=20 media in the years to come and one day might be important=20 ............

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the second mouse gets the = cheese!=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00C0_01C1F10E.68384980-- From jarlulf@hotmail.com Wed, 01 May 2002 23:28:43 +1000 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 23:28:43 +1000 From: Robert Woodman jarlulf@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] FW: Combat information This looks interesting, this CD may be of use --- In TheManx@y..., Ian Dixon wrote: The group I belong to is working on a interactive CD for re- enactment combat, stuff like the use of sword, axe, spear and shield. That will have written instructions as well as video clips showing the moves. Most of it will cover our clubs rules, but we have been thinking of adding a small section showing common rules used around the world. The main reason for the CD is to supply it to new members and as part of a garrison start-up kit we are working on (our club is growing faster than we can handle at the moment) So if any groups on this list that does re-enactment combat (I'm talking about using metal weapons) could you email me off list with details of rules and styles used. Ian Dixon iandix@yahoo.com.au --- End forwarded message --- From Marfield66@aol.com Wed, 01 May 2002 10:35:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:35:59 -0400 From: Marfield66@aol.com Marfield66@aol.com Subject: [Regia-NA] FW: Combat information Wonderful ! I've been occasionally asking for someone to produce a combat training tape or whatever. This will be invaluable for groups overseas to reference who otherwise do not see on a regular basis the fighting techniques/styles and safety issues associated with combat re-enactment in the UK. Martin F From jarlulf@hotmail.com Thu, 02 May 2002 01:16:52 +1000 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 01:16:52 +1000 From: Robert Woodman jarlulf@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] FW: Combat information I just forwarded the email from another mailing list. I think the guy who wrote it is from Australia, so I would guess that it would be the rules used over there. On 2/5/02 12:35 AM, "Marfield66@aol.com" wrote: > Wonderful ! I've been occasionally asking for someone to produce a combat > training tape or whatever. This will be invaluable for groups overseas to > reference who otherwise do not see on a regular basis the fighting > techniques/styles and safety issues associated with combat re-enactment in the > UK. > Martin F > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Thu, 2 May 2002 11:59:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 11:59:30 +0100 From: Hazel Uzzell gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Dyeing Leather This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1F1D0.D1215A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having just perused my copy of Chronicle, I was very interested to read = the piece about the methods of dyeing leather. Could I point out, however, that several of the methods require rock = alum. According to Liverpool Museum Geology Dept. rock alum is very = unlikely to have been available in any significant amounts in A/S = England. (It may have been imported from the southern med.) Esther = Cameron, in 'Sheaths & Scabbards in England. AD400-1100' (BAR Brithish = Series 301. 200) is also of this opinion. Fragments of alum tawed skins = have been found in this country, but she suggests club moss to be the = source of the alum. No dye has been detected in leather of A/S date in an archaeological = context, however, the covers of the Stoneyhurst Gospels and the Codex = Bonifatianus are both dyed red. Sap green is obtained from buckthorn berries and was used at a later = date as a pigment. This is produced by a precipitation method and known = as a 'lake'. This method was not available in A/S England. Regards to all, Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1F1D0.D1215A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having just perused my copy of = Chronicle, I was=20 very interested to read the piece about the methods of dyeing=20 leather.
 
Could I point out, however, that = several of the=20 methods require rock alum. According to Liverpool Museum Geology Dept. = rock alum=20 is very unlikely  to have been available in any significant amounts = in A/S=20 England. (It may have been imported from the southern med.) Esther = Cameron, in=20 'Sheaths & Scabbards in England. AD400-1100' (BAR Brithish Series = 301. 200)=20 is also of this opinion. Fragments of alum tawed skins have been found = in this=20 country, but she suggests club moss to be the source of the = alum.
 
No dye has been detected in leather of = A/S date in=20 an archaeological context, however, the covers of the Stoneyhurst = Gospels and=20 the Codex Bonifatianus are both dyed red.
 
Sap green is obtained from buckthorn = berries and=20 was used at a later date as a pigment. This is produced by a = precipitation=20 method and known as a 'lake'. This method was not available in A/S=20 England.
Regards to all,
Hazel
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1F1D0.D1215A00-- From amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk Thu, 02 May 2002 13:58:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 13:58:33 +0100 From: Allan McVie amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus warning Hi Just captured a virus ( with my Virus protection software) which may be sent to other people on this group (but not through this group) It was from the following email address wotan and contained the attached file All.bat It contains the following virus W32/Klez-G More info on this virus at http://wwwsophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32klezg.html Allan McVie From kimberly@ka9q.net Thu, 02 May 2002 08:29:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 08:29:32 -0700 From: Kimberly Karn kimberly@ka9q.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus warning Bear in mind that this virus may not have come from the person in the sender field. The Klez virus uses email addresses it picks up from text files on an infected computer and uses them not only to send itself out, but also to masquerade as another. It's a tricky little virus. Mistrust all attachments you get in the mail especially if you are not expecting them. Kimberly At 01:58 PM 5/2/02 +0100, you wrote: >Hi > >Just captured a virus ( with my Virus protection software) which may be >sent to other people on this group (but not through this group) > >It was from the following email address "We are the origins of war, not history's forces nor the times nor justice nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of government nor any other thing. We are the killers we breed war... For the love of God, can't we love another just a little. That's how peace begins. We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities my children. We could change the world." Eleanor of Aquataine in the "Lion in Winter" From amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk Thu, 02 May 2002 16:45:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 16:45:42 +0100 From: Allan McVie amv2f@udcf.gla.ac.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus warning At 08:29 02/05/02 -0700, you wrote: >Bear in mind that this virus may not have come from the person in the >sender field. The Klez virus uses email addresses it picks up from text >files on an infected computer and uses them not only to send itself out, >but also to masquerade as another. It's a tricky little virus. Mistrust all >attachments you get in the mail especially if you are not expecting them. >Kimberly The Virus protection software we have here in work is upto date and it detected the virus at the same time as the computor told me I had the e-mail that contained it. The Return address was different from the Sender address. On reading up on the virus it appears quite nasty in the way it works -searching your computor for e-mail addresses -randomisation of subjectline -Random message text -The attached file randomly named with one of the following extensions .PIF, .SCR, .EXE, or .BAT -The sender address chosen from a list within the virus itself Allan From MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Thu, 02 May 2002 20:20:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:20:36 -0400 From: rmhowe MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Subject: [Regia-NA] A particularly neat website of links http://www.celticbard.com/kjmcm/cat_jwl_lnks.html Look at the top for enamelling or lapidary from Atlantia's webpage for A&S http://www.bronzeagefoundry.com/ Magnus From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Fri, 3 May 2002 10:45:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:45:25 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Chippenham evening performance script. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0225_01C1F28F.A1C45BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Enjoy! Copies will be available on Saturday at the event. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 The Death of Einer A special evening performance for the=20 =20 Chippenham Town Council =20 Sunday evening=20 5th May 2002 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Sunday Evening Shipburning =20 The evening performance commences half an hour before dusk. This will be = arranged according to local conditions and participants informed = verbally on Sunday morning.=20 =20 =20 Civilians should be making their way to in the Olympiad car park at the = top of the hill as the evening battle takes place. =20 Civilians =20 We shall need about ten responsible, thinking adults to provide costumed = stewards to patrol the roadway. A number of these can be first aiders. =20 The torch bearers will need to be ready to come down the hill in = procession as darkness falls. Listen for the audio cue "The torchbearers = gather as sunlight fails" to light the torches and the procession starts = down the hill with the audio cue "And now all gather to pay their last = respects" on as the fallen warrior is carried off towards the ship.=20 =20 The corpse is carried down to the water's edge the massed ranks of the = armies "swallow" the body. =20 To avoid confusion, the evening battle will follow the same general = outline as the afternoon event. Due to reduced light levels, there = should be more shouting and running about and less deliberate attempts = to kill as many as you can! =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 The Show - direction and narration set pieces =20 We are not fighting a floodlit battle in the dark: the combat will be = fought - as at Largs - into failing light with a pause before the = shipburning .=20 =20 Following the battle, the warriors should patrol the crowd line and talk = to the public, pose for photos etc.=20 =20 As the ship is under the trees, it will be possible to start before full = dark, it being a good place to frame the shipburning, gloomy even in = daylight.=20 =20 Opening voiceover =20 At this time the field is empty and remains so during this piece. =20 Music - intro =20 BEGINS =20 "Come - draw your coat about you ...........guide us through shoaling = water and strong currents." =20 ENDS Army takes the field Army takes the field =20 Einer marches proudly at the head of his army. Events have not gone well = for him, but he is determined not to show it in what he knows will be = the last great battle of his life. His king has deserted him but he will = still lay down his life for him as he promised, taking no boon of life = from Alfred's hand. =20 =20 BEGINS =20 "Now comes my lord Einer, beloved of king Guthrum. ................ And = if we die in this lonely place, why we shall feast in Valhalla in the = morning! =20 =20 ENDS Battle action commences Einer walks about looking important =20 =20 =20 (A working battlefield script will run as usual. Technically, we can = fight any kind of battle we like and - apart from lots of shouting and = running about, clashes of arms and screams of the wounded - it doesn't = really matter who wins.) =20 As the action draws to the conclusion that is decided, an audio cue will = trigger the assassination of Einar. He will be surrounded by a small = number of warriors (and ONLY by them please!) who will have Destructo = shields which will be thoroughly hacked to pieces. Eorl Macchus (Gary = Golding) will be the one that kills Einer.=20 =20 This signifies the end of the battle and Einer's men fight a valiant = retreat towards the water, finally breaking up and running off along the = river bank. =20 Six stay behind and tidy Einer's body for burial, placing it ready on = their shields. =20 They shoulder it and carry it slowly away towards the river as the = jubilant and celebrating warriors return. They look respectfully on, but = make no move to stop the burial party, carrying on to the crowd line = where they rejoin modern times until the ship burning. =20 Into the darkness, the PA begins=20 the closing voiceover. =20 Siegfried's funeral march begins as the procession descends the hill.=20 =20 The warriors join the procession, flanking and following until they get = to the river bank. As the torchbearers reach a place where they can = throw, they begin ONE BY ONE to throw their torches into the ship. Some = fall amidships, some at the bow and stern. As the blazing ship flares = into the darkness, the procession withdraws to the sides, so as not to = obstruct the view of the audience.=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Closing voiceover BEGINS =20 "Come, death, let me clutch at thee!=20 =20 .......... See, the day brightens in the east ........." =20 ENDS =20 =20 The silent warriors wait until the closing voice over comes to an end ------- "See, the day brightens ..." =20 At this cue, the warriors, Einer and all participants come back onto the = field to take a well-earned bow. =20 BEGINS =20 "And so Einer is carried off into history. ............... In time, none = will remember him at all and a life full of adventure and travel will be = as if it had never been." =20 ENDS =20 =20 =20 To thunderous applause and hoarse-voiced cheering that only just drowns = out the blubbing of the many who are now in tears, Regia Anglorum = marches off the field in search of a pie-&-a-pint.=20 =20 =20 Shipburnings? Naaaa, done that, mate! =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0225_01C1F28F.A1C45BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Enjoy!
 
Copies will be available on Saturday at the=20 event.

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&= gt;>
 
 

The=20 Death of Einer

A=20 special evening performance

for the=20

 

Chippenham=20 Town Council

 

Sunday=20 evening

5th=20 May 2002

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sunday=20 Evening Shipburning

 

The=20 evening performance commences half an hour before dusk. This will be = arranged=20 according to local conditions and participants informed verbally on = Sunday=20 morning.

 

 

Civilians=20 should be making their way to in the Olympiad car park at the top of the = hill as=20 the evening battle takes place.

 

Civilians

 

We=20 shall need about ten responsible, thinking adults to provide costumed = stewards=20 to patrol the roadway. A number of these can be first=20 aiders.

 

The=20 torch bearers will need to be ready to come down the hill in procession = as=20 darkness falls. Listen for the audio cue = “The=20 torchbearers gather as sunlight fails” to=20 light the torches and the procession starts down the hill with the audio = cue=20 “And now=20 all gather to pay their last respects”=20 on as the fallen warrior is carried off towards the ship. =

 

The=20 corpse is carried down to the water’s edge the massed ranks of the = armies=20 "swallow" the body.

 

To=20 avoid confusion, the evening battle will follow the same general outline = as the=20 afternoon event. Due to reduced light levels, there should be more = shouting and=20 running about and less deliberate attempts to kill as many as you=20 can!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The=20 Show - direction and narration set pieces

 

We=20 are not fighting a floodlit battle in the dark: the combat will be = fought – as=20 at Largs – into failing light with a pause before the shipburning = .=20

 

Following=20 the battle, the warriors should patrol the crowd line and talk to the = public,=20 pose for photos etc.

 

As=20 the ship is under the trees, it will be possible to start before full = dark, it=20 being a good place to frame the shipburning, gloomy even in daylight.=20

 

Opening=20 voiceover

 

At this time the field is empty and = remains so=20 during this piece.

 

Music –=20 intro

 

BEGINS

 

“Come – draw your coat about you = …………………………= 230;guide us=20 through shoaling water and strong currents.”

 

ENDS           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;         =20 Army takes the=20 field

Army = takes the=20 field

 

Einer marches proudly at the head of his army. = Events have=20 not gone well for him, but he is determined not to show it in what he = knows will=20 be the last great battle of his life. His king has deserted him but he = will=20 still lay down his life for him as he promised, taking no boon of life = from=20 Alfred’s hand.

 

 

BEGINS

 

“Now comes=20 my lord Einer, beloved of king Guthrum. = …………………………= 230;…………. And if we die in this=20 lonely place, why we shall feast in Valhalla in the morning! 

    =

ENDS

Battle=20 action commences

Einer=20 walks about looking important

 

 

 

(A working = battlefield script=20 will run as usual. Technically, we can fight any kind of battle we like = and -=20 apart from lots of shouting and running about, clashes of arms and = screams of=20 the wounded - it doesn't really matter who wins.)

 

As the=20 action draws to the conclusion that is decided, an audio cue will = trigger the=20 assassination of Einar. He will be surrounded by a small number of = warriors (and=20 ONLY by them please!) who will have Destructo   shields which will be = thoroughly=20 hacked to pieces. Eorl Macchus (Gary Golding) will be the one that kills = Einer.=20

 

This=20 signifies the end of the battle and Einer’s men fight a valiant = retreat towards=20 the water, finally breaking up and running off along the river=20 bank.

 

Six=20 stay behind and tidy Einer’s body for burial, placing it ready on = their=20 shields.

 

They=20 shoulder it and carry it slowly away towards the river as the jubilant = and=20 celebrating warriors return. They look respectfully on, but make no move = to stop=20 the burial party, carrying on to the crowd line where they rejoin modern = times=20 until the ship burning.

 

Into the darkness, the PA begins

the=20 closing voiceover.

 

Siegfried's=20 funeral march begins as the procession descends the hill. =

 

The=20 warriors join the procession, flanking and following until they get to = the river=20 bank. As the torchbearers reach a place where they can throw, they begin = ONE BY=20 ONE to throw their torches into the ship. Some fall amidships, some at = the bow=20 and stern. As the blazing ship flares into the darkness, the procession=20 withdraws to the sides, so as not to obstruct the view of the audience.=20

 

 

 

 

 

Closing=20 voiceover

BEGINS

 

 “Come, death, let me = clutch at thee!=20

 

……………………….

See, the day = brightens in the=20 east = …………………….”

 

ENDS

 

 

The=20 silent warriors wait until the closing voice over comes to an=20 end

——————–

“See,=20 the day brightens …….”

 

At this=20 cue, the warriors, Einer and all participants come back onto the field = to take a=20 well-earned bow.

 

BEGINS

 

"And so=20 Einer is carried off into history. = …………………………= 230;…... In time, none will remember=20 him at all and a life full of adventure and travel will be as if it had = never=20 been.”

 

ENDS

 

 

 

To=20 thunderous applause and hoarse-voiced cheering that only just drowns out = the=20 blubbing of the many who are now in tears, Regia Anglorum marches off = the field=20 in search of a pie-&-a-pint.

 

 

Shipburnings?

Naaaa,=20 done that, mate!

 

 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0225_01C1F28F.A1C45BD0-- From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Wed, 8 May 2002 04:41:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 04:41:03 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Message for Jeanne Johnson This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C1F64A.8F360720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jeanne, I can't send you an e-mail as your mailbox is full. Please empty! Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C1F64A.8F360720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jeanne,
 
I can't send you an e-mail as your mailbox is = full.
 
Please empty!

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C1F64A.8F360720-- From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Wed, 8 May 2002 16:15:51 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 16:15:51 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] School talk week at Fritton This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1F6AB.9F5A72B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, As I was beginning to suspect due to the long silence from the client, = we will not now be doing the school talks week at Fritton. I spoke to = Fritton Lake today and they confirmed my suspicions. It seems that local = schools are doing stats tests that week and no-one has booked in for the = available days. Therefore, I must regretfully tell you that this facility is cancelled - = BUT IN NO WAY does this change our EVENT for Fritton Lake which proceeds = as expected. Arrivals from noon Friday 31st May with set up that night = and Saturday morning. Low key LHE and military on Saturday, with full = committment from Sunday 1st June.=20 The shipburning will be on the FOLLOWING Saturday night. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1F6AB.9F5A72B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
As I was beginning to suspect due to the long = silence=20 from the client, we will not now be doing the school talks week at = Fritton. I=20 spoke to Fritton Lake today and they confirmed my suspicions. = It seems that local schools are doing stats tests that = week and=20 no-one has booked in for the available days.
 
Therefore, I must regretfully tell you that = this=20 facility is cancelled - BUT IN NO WAY does = this=20 change our EVENT for Fritton Lake which proceeds as expected. Arrivals = from noon=20 Friday 31st May with set up that night and Saturday morning. Low key LHE = and=20 military on Saturday, with full committment from Sunday 1st June. =
 
The shipburning will be on the FOLLOWING = Saturday=20 night.

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C1F6AB.9F5A72B0-- From dsunlin@hotmail.com Wed, 08 May 2002 13:44:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 13:44:47 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Wedge tents Hey, Panther Primitives gots Viking tents and getelds now: http://www.pantherprimitives.com/medieval.html <><><> <><><> <><><> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dsunlin@hotmail.com Wed, 08 May 2002 14:43:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 14:43:38 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Clinker-built cauldrons ...at Period Provisions: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/LCVInternational/cauldron.htm Pays to check up on these old sites... <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Oswald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dsunlin@hotmail.com Wed, 08 May 2002 16:00:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 16:00:22 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Encampment supplies Awhile back, I sent away for some linen thread from a US re-enactment supplier. It was all 18th century stuff, but it all seemed so complete and "one-stop-shopping" that I was inspired to come up with a web page that we of Geforthan Stradi can all use. Seems that reproductions for our period are becoming more and more available. Enjoy: http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/encampment.html <><><> <><><> <><><> _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From jarlulf@hotmail.com Thu, 09 May 2002 04:23:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 04:23:43 +0000 From: Robert Woodman jarlulf@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site I found this site while surfing http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not that bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Thu, 9 May 2002 10:25:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:25:01 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site It's a bit hard to judge as the photo will not expand, but I'm pretty convinced that the "pattern welded" blades are actually the layered crucible steel blades that are quite common now. They come from China and are layered and etched, but they are not truly pattern welded. The effect may look the same to the unpractised eye, but the patterning is random in crucible steel and there is no twisting or folding involved, so the layers do not cross each other at all. Also, the blades are far too Bowie like to be described as scramsaexes. Otherwise, the arms and armour seem reasonably priced. Who's going first? Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Woodman" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site > > I found this site while surfing > http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ > > The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not that > bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? > > I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From yolli@lineone.net Thu, 9 May 2002 11:18:31 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:18:31 +0100 From: yolli yolli@lineone.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Wedge tents I have to say Doug that I think they are expensive. We totted up the largest version in the colour option, Viking style with the heaviest cloth and a 'sod cloth' - is that by the way a trim around the 'hem' of the tent? That came at roughly £740. Now for that I would expect a heavier cloth even though it would be cotton canvas - something like 14oz cloth. The end planks should be at least carved or fretted/profiled so they at least looked Viking. The timber should be ash and the poles that make the rails should come as four inch square rails minimum carved down to round shafts at the ends to locate through the end planks. Perhaps a ground sheet should be thrown in as well for that price. I need a tent myself and I can see that I'll have to make the frame and get the canvas sewn up elsewhere. Although for genuine one-up-manship, I should sew that by hand......Do I have the energy????? Roll. I had a look to see if Past Tents over here and a chap called Victor James did Viking tents to get a comparative price. Well Past Tents don't regularly do one and Victor James isn't on the web. http://www.tentsmiths.com/page27.htm Well having pootled around the web a bit, I found these. At least they have carved heads but they don't include the poles???????! http://www.qnet.fi/rus-project/the_voyages_in_1996-97.html This last link mentions a Viking crews tents made of wool and proofed. Enjoy as they say. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:44 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Wedge tents > Hey, Panther Primitives gots Viking tents and getelds now: > http://www.pantherprimitives.com/medieval.html > <><><> <><><> <><><> > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From yolli@lineone.net Thu, 9 May 2002 11:38:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:38:30 +0100 From: yolli yolli@lineone.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Clinker-built cauldrons I have had one or two of these 'clinker' built cauldrons to alter. They are too tall and I cut off the rim at least and junk the escutcheons and handle including the swivel it comes with. When these have been replaced, you then need to see how well the joints work. As they are made in India one suspects, the steel could have come from anything - old supertanker to worn out nuclear power station..........I think the joints are tarred together where they leak, so I burn off any filler and scrape the thing clean as best as I can. Then I get the inside tinned after sealing the worst leaks with a new rivet or two. Now I know there is a old time recipe that uses porridge to fill the holes - it works and I don't know of anyone who has dropped dead as a result of using one of these pots. But I prefer to fiddle with them so that they look good and work well. They are a good starting point for anyone who doesn't revel in the idea of beating out a cauldron and riveting it together. Cheers, Roll. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Clinker-built cauldrons > ...at Period Provisions: > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/LCVInternational/cauldron.htm > From yolli@lineone.net Thu, 9 May 2002 11:53:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:53:28 +0100 From: yolli yolli@lineone.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Encampment supplies Here I go again - not trying to sound like a complete bitch honest. I can't recall if I commented about the pottery - but just in case I didn't..... The pot shapes etc are good. What they ( the potters ) have done is to tidy up and improve. The pots should be more splattered with glaze. If glazed at all, it shouild be yellowy green and almost spilled onto the surface around the upper section and the rim. This could then be used on the inside as well. Alternatively, just a clear glaze on the inside alone and let the outside become sooted as it's used in the fire. This effect can be faked up as well as the burning marks are fairly random. The marks from throwing the pots were often still present, and the applied decoration needs to appear a little more hasty - but not heavily done. Picky? Absolutely. When ordering, they could easily tinker with the designs without it being much trouble. Roll. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] Encampment supplies > Awhile back, I sent away for some linen thread from a US re-enactment > supplier. It was all 18th century stuff, but it all seemed so complete and > "one-stop-shopping" that I was inspired to come up with a web page that we > of Geforthan Stradi can all use. > > Seems that reproductions for our period are becoming more and more > available. Enjoy: > http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/encampment.html > > From yolli@lineone.net Thu, 9 May 2002 12:05:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:05:02 +0100 From: yolli yolli@lineone.net Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site Last one from me today...........I know, I know. Well these prices are cheap. Very cheap if they are in Australian dollars. For us we divide by 3.......... That St. Wenceslas is very affordable. Is there a catch I hear you ask? Gawd knows. I don't like the profile of their other period helms - all a bit bullet shaped. The St. Wenceslas has the shape that even pieced helms should try to achieve. I would ask them if the helms are made from spinning and also see if they are made from steel that is at least 16 gauge - 14 is better. On the knives page, there are some knives labelled as 'Forged Dark Age etc'. They aren't, and I don't know why this keeps cropping up, they are Iron age at best. Don't buy them for re-enactment. Roll. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Woodman" To: Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 5:23 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site > > I found this site while surfing > http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ > > The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not that > bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? > > I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes From frojel@dcsi.net.au Thu, 09 May 2002 21:55:55 +1000 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 21:55:55 +1000 From: Frojel Gotlandica frojel@dcsi.net.au Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site Hi All Actually I know Alex from Tallerwin Forge and they are pattern welded bl= ades not layered. The guy does great work and I have bought a number of his knives, we use= them constantly and the quality is terrific Cheers Sandy >It's a bit hard to judge as the photo will not expand, but I'm pretty >convinced that the "pattern welded" blades are actually the layered cru= cible >steel blades that are quite common now. They come from China and are la= yered >and etched, but they are not truly pattern welded. Fr=94jel Gotlandica Viking Re-enactment Society. http://www.frojel.com/ frojel@frojel.com From frojel@dcsi.net.au Thu, 09 May 2002 22:09:17 +1000 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 22:09:17 +1000 From: Frojel Gotlandica frojel@dcsi.net.au Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_5153984=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >On the knives page, there are some knives labelled as 'Forged Dark Age = etc'. >They aren't, and I don't know why this keeps cropping up, they are Iron= age >at best. Don't buy them for re-enactment. Personally I don't like those ones much either ( Personall preference) b= ut the decorated eating knives a bit further down are damn good, the decorations ( Ferule and tip.) are from = Frojel and were excavated from a 10th century Viking grave near the harbour area in 2000 and the blades a= re correctly sized and shaped for Sweden during that time. I'm not sure if his web page prices are not in= USA dollars but I think so. He sells a lot of stuff to the U.S.A people. Sandy >Roll. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Woodman" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 5:23 AM >Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site > > >> >> I found this site while surfing >> http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ >> >> The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not= that >> bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? >> >> I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes > > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > Fr=94jel Gotlandica Viking Re-enactment Society. http://www.frojel.com/ frojel@frojel.com --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_5153984=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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>at best. Don't buy them for re-enactment.
Personally I don't like those ones much either ( Pe= rsonall preference) but the decorated eating knives a bit further down a= re damn good, the decorations ( Ferule and tip.) are from Frojel and wer= e excavated from a 10th century Viking grave near the harbour area in 20= 00 and the blades are correctly sized and shaped for Sweden during that = time. I'm not sure if his web page prices are not in USA dollars but I = think so. He sells a lot of stuff to the U.S.A people.
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frojel@frojel.com --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_5153984=_=_=_-- From bfiset@clic.net Thu, 09 May 2002 09:01:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 09:01:47 -0400 From: Benoit Fiset bfiset@clic.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking exhibit in Canada >http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/vikingse.html > >Hull, Quebec, December 13, 2001 -- On May 8, 2002, the Canadian Museum of Civilization will be >the site of a new sort of Viking invasion with the opening of the exhibition Vikings: The >North Atlantic Saga. Featuring more than 300 priceless artifacts gathered from nine >institutions on both sides of the Atlantic, this major exhibition sheds new light on the >Vikings' culture and history -- a thousand years after their first arrival in North America. > >"We are pleased to be the only Canadian stop on this outstanding exhibition's North American >tour," declares Dr. Victor Rabinovitch, President and CEO of the Canadian Museum of >Civilization Corporation. "We are also proud to be able to introduce -- for its presentation at >the Canadian Museum of Civilization -- the Helluland Archaeology Project: a new research >initiative undertaken by one of our staff archaeologists, suggesting more extensive contact >between the Norse and Native peoples than previously suspected." > >The Vikings have traditionally been viewed as violent marauders, invading foreign shores to >loot and pillage. Vikings: The North Atlantic Saga, mounted by the National Museum of Natural >History, Smithsonian Institution, challenges this view and shows that the Vikings were skilled >farmers, accomplished traders, intrepid explorers and masterful artisans. Although they did >raid nearby settlements in search of loot and land, the Vikings often built towns, farming >communities and cultural centres in the territories they conquered or settled. Based on sagas, >historical documents and archaeology, Vikings: The North Atlantic Saga examines and celebrates >the rich Viking legacy, as well as the Viking journey westward, which reached the North >American coast 1,000 years ago. > >The CMC is proud to have contributed more than 25 key pieces from its collections to this >travelling exhibition. Among the highlights of the exhibition are four original manuscripts -- >including the Jònsbòk (The Book of Laws, circa thirteenth century) -- Icelandic national >treasures whose loan to this exhibit required an act of Parliament. Also to be seen is a >famous piece of Viking "loot": Ranvaig's Shrine, a reliquary casket. The oldest object in the >exhibition is the Gotland Picture Stone, dating AD 750, that depicts a fallen warrior's voyage >into the afterlife. > >"The Viking expansion from their Scandinavian homelands and their arrival in North America was >a truly historic event," says head curator, Dr. William Fitzhugh of the Smithsonian >Institution. "The arrival of the Vikings on North American shores marks the first meeting of >two streams of humanity -- European and Native American -- on the northeastern shores of this >continent." > >In support of Vikings: The North Atlantic Saga, the Canadian Museum of Civilization is >planning a number of outstanding programmes and events. The possibilities include a series of >Norse musical and theatrical performances, a summer solstice festival, a ten-day Viking >festival, educational programming and more. > >Vikings: The North Atlantic Saga has been made possible through the generous support of the >Nordic Council of Ministers and Volvo, and is presented by the National Museum of Natural >History, Smithsonian Institution, in partnership with the White House Millennium Council. >Additional support has been provided by Husqvarna Viking Sewing Machines, the Barbro Osher Pro >Suecia Foundation and Phillips Petroleum Company Norway. > >The exhibition will be presented at the Canadian Museum of Civilization from May 8 to October >14, 2002. > >See a Norwegian Viking long ship > >The Mjøsen Lange > >On its arrival from Norway (May 3), the long ship will be moored at the Canadian Museum of >Civilization dock for the entire month of May, as part of the special activities accompanying >the exhibition Vikings: The North Atlantic Saga From Wednesday to Sunday, between May 8 and >May 31, the ship's captain, Kai Gjessing, and his crew will be available on board this >authentic long ship to answer your questions. (Daily rowings available starting May 15, >weather permitting.) > >The Canadian Museum of Civilization, the Canadian Children's Museum, and the Canadian Postal >Museum are located in Hull, Quebec, on the banks of the Ottawa River, directly opposite >Parliament Hill. The museum building is easily accessible from downtown Ottawa by foot, bus, >or by car and has on- site parking. > >ADDRESS: >Canadian Museum of Civilization, 100 Laurier Street, P.O. Box 3100, Station B, Hull, Quebec >J8X 4H2. > > > >A 24-hour information service is >available by phoning (819) 776-7000 >or call 1-800-555-5621 >Hearing impaired: TDD (819) 776-7003 >Fax: (819) 776-8300 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Born of the Sword Ruled by a Crown Surrounded by the 21st Century --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benoit Fiset Technicien en Géomatique bfiset@clic.net GIS technicien a.k.a: Seigneur Godfroy Garmallon, GoA,OSC,OBT In the Society for Creative Anachronisim http://www.sca.org/ Baronnie du Havre des Glaces http://www.havredesglaces.eastkingdom.org/ Ville de Québec, Canada City of Quebec, Canada From jarlulf@hotmail.com Thu, 09 May 2002 14:04:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:04:40 +0000 From: Robert Woodman jarlulf@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site his web site said all prices are in Australian $ I would think he would make things to order. I might send him a photo of a helmet and see what price he charges for a custom job >From: "Frojel Gotlandica" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: "list-regia-na@lig.net" >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 22:09:17 +1000 > > > >On the knives page, there are some knives labelled as 'Forged Dark Age >etc'. > >They aren't, and I don't know why this keeps cropping up, they are Iron >age > >at best. Don't buy them for re-enactment. >Personally I don't like those ones much either ( Personall preference) but >the decorated eating knives a bit >further down are damn good, the decorations ( Ferule and tip.) are from >Frojel and were excavated from a >10th century Viking grave near the harbour area in 2000 and the blades are >correctly sized and shaped for >Sweden during that time. I'm not sure if his web page prices are not in >USA dollars but I think so. He sells a >lot of stuff to the U.S.A people. >Sandy > > > >Roll. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Robert Woodman" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 5:23 AM > >Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site > > > > > >> > >> I found this site while surfing > >> http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ > >> > >> The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not >that > >> bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? > >> > >> I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >list-regia-na mailing list > >list-regia-na@lig.net > >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > >Fr”jel Gotlandica Viking Re-enactment Society. >http://www.frojel.com/ >frojel@frojel.com > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dsunlin@hotmail.com Thu, 09 May 2002 10:00:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:00:24 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Wedge tents Thanks, Roland! I suppose the idea is to develop a "juried merchant list" as they say in the SCA, with an emphasis on ease of ordering - I don't want to scare anyone away. I liked this image: http://www.qnet.fi/rus-project/bilder/paris.jpg Still no getelds, sigh. I will include the link to Past Tents. Thanks again. <><><> <><><> <><><> >From: "yolli" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Wedge tents >Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:18:31 +0100 > >I have to say Doug that I think they are expensive. We totted up the >largest >version in the colour option, Viking style with the heaviest cloth and a >'sod cloth' - is that by the way a trim around the 'hem' of the tent? > >That came at roughly £740. > >Now for that I would expect a heavier cloth even though it would be cotton >canvas - something like 14oz cloth. The end planks should be at least >carved >or fretted/profiled so they at least looked Viking. The timber should be >ash >and the poles that make the rails should come as four inch square rails >minimum carved down to round shafts at the ends to locate through the end >planks. Perhaps a ground sheet should be thrown in as well for that price. > >I need a tent myself and I can see that I'll have to make the frame and get >the canvas sewn up elsewhere. Although for genuine one-up-manship, I should >sew that by hand......Do I have the energy????? > >Roll. > >I had a look to see if Past Tents over here and a chap called Victor James >did Viking tents to get a comparative price. Well Past Tents don't >regularly >do one and Victor James isn't on the web. > >http://www.tentsmiths.com/page27.htm > >Well having pootled around the web a bit, I found these. At least they have >carved heads but they don't include the poles???????! > >http://www.qnet.fi/rus-project/the_voyages_in_1996-97.html > >This last link mentions a Viking crews tents made of wool and proofed. >Enjoy >as they say. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Douglas Sunlin" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:44 PM >Subject: [Regia-NA] Wedge tents > > > > Hey, Panther Primitives gots Viking tents and getelds now: > > http://www.pantherprimitives.com/medieval.html > > <><><> <><><> <><><> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Oswald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dsunlin@hotmail.com Thu, 09 May 2002 10:05:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:05:03 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Encampment supplies Roland said: >The pot shapes etc are good. What they ( the potters ) have done is to tidy >up and improve. The pots should be more splattered with glaze. If glazed at >all, it shouild be yellowy green and almost spilled onto the surface around >the upper section and the rim. This could then be used on the inside as >well. * Sounds like Japanese raku ceramics, where they prize a certain artistic "sloppiness", but only when done on purpose! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dsunlin@hotmail.com Thu, 09 May 2002 10:08:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:08:41 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking exhibit in Canada We saw this one in Los Angeles. It is not to be missed. >From: Benoit Fiset >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking exhibit in Canada >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 09:01:47 -0400 > > > >>http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/vikingse.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dsunlin@hotmail.com Thu, 09 May 2002 10:12:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:12:30 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site I might note that Jelling Dragon's site is newly spiffed up, and they do take credit cards: http://jelldragon.com/ On a side note, Paul Binns' Norman sword sure look pretty. Any thoughts as to the likelihood of a Anglo-Saxon geneat having his hands on one? <><><> <><><> <><><> >From: "Robert Woodman" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site >Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 04:23:43 +0000 > > >I found this site while surfing >http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ > >The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not that >bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? > >I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Oswald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From kimberly@ka9q.net Thu, 09 May 2002 17:39:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 17:39:59 -0700 From: Kimberly Karn kimberly@ka9q.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Thought this was interesting. My husband forwarded this to me. I thought it was kind of cool. I know I cross posted so sorry if you get it twice. Start quote... I didn't know archeology could be so, uh, exciting. BTW, I think this is the same chemical reaction at work in those non-reusable handwarmers you bought. --Phil Ancient Cannonballs Come to Life with a Bang LONDON (Reuters) - Cannon balls retrieved from ancient shipwrecks are wreaking thunderous havoc centuries later -- by exploding on the desks of archaeologists, New Scientist magazine said Wednesday. Robert Child, of the National Museums and Galleries of Wales in Cardiff, told the magazine that he had recorded several instances where the old rusted balls of metal started to heat up and turn red, or explode after being exposed to oxygen. In one case, a ball retrieved from a 1691 wreck heated up to a few hundred degrees after several minutes in the open air, began to glow a dull red and started burning its way through the pine table. "There was smoke coming off the bench," he told the magazine. Child said in several cases the prized artifacts had split open many weeks after they were pulled from the sea. He said the explosions happened because the balls had developed a lattice-like porous structure over hundreds of years that reacted with oxygen to produce massive amounts of heat. The combination of oxygen and sea salt caused rapid oxidation resulting in the balls "exploding" open and crumbling into bits. ------- End of forwarded message ------- "We are the origins of war, not history's forces nor the times nor justice nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of government nor any other thing. We are the killers we breed war... For the love of God, can't we love another just a little. That's how peace begins. We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities my children. We could change the world." Eleanor of Aquataine in the "Lion in Winter" From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Fri, 10 May 2002 02:38:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 02:38:43 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Horndean details, 18/19th May + Kim's away This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C1F7CB.CD332F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm away for three days at Wychurst for the Work Weekend. Here are further directions for the Horndean show next weekend. Arrive = Saturday morning, set up, training & rest. Open to the public 10.00am = Sunday. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Directions to Catherington Lith Living Woodland Fair Grid Ref of site: OS Landranger 197 Chichester and the Downs SU702138 >From the North Coming south on the A3 follow signs for Portsmouth. Continuing on the = A3 after signs for Petersfield go past Queen Elizabeth Country Park on the left. After signs for Butser Hill and Chalton, the A3 descends and will = be signposted to become the A3(M). Leave the A3 at junction 1 (ie do not proceed onto the motorway). At the end of the sliproad go right. Pass under the motorway and take an immediate left next to the Jehovas = Witness chapel and AB trucks. This road will bend round to the left but you = should proceed straight up the hill in front of you. The entrance to the fair = site will be via the field gate at the top of this hill. . >From the south Follow the A3(M) northbound. Leave at junction 2 (there is no exit for northbound traffic at jnc 1). At the end of the sliproad take the 3rd = exit on the roundabout signposted Emsworth B2149. Aftera short distance = (about 1/4 mile) go left at the mini roundabout. At the next mini roundabout = (next to a bakers) go right. Go past the brewery then the Anchor Pub. Pass = under the motorway and take an immediate left next to the Jehovas Witness = chapel and AB trucks. This road will bend round to the left but you should = proceed straight up the hill in front of you. The entrance to the fair site = will be via the field gate at the top of this hill. On arrival or should you be lost call Kevin Cloud Countryside Ranger on 07798 737101. >From Exeter Honiton then A35 Bridport, Dorchester. After Bere Regis go A31 = Ringwood then M27. M27 will become A27 near Portsmouth. After Portsmouth exits = look for signs A3(M) London Guildford Petersfield. Now follow instructions = above from the south. >From Bristol A36 (? I think) Salisburyn the follow signs for Southampton. Join M27 eastbound signposted Portsmouth and Brighton.M27 will become A27 near Portsmouth. After Portsmouth exits look for signs A3(M) London = Guildford Petersfield. Now follow instructions above from the south. ------=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C1F7CB.CD332F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm away for three days at Wychurst for the = Work=20 Weekend.
 
Here are further directions for the Horndean = show next=20 weekend. Arrive Saturday morning, set up, training & rest. Open to = the=20 public 10.00am Sunday.

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
Directions to Catherington Lith Living Woodland Fair

Grid = Ref of=20 site:  OS Landranger 197 Chichester and the Downs = SU702138

From the=20 North

Coming south on the A3 follow signs for Portsmouth. =20 Continuing on the A3
after signs for Petersfield go past Queen = Elizabeth=20 Country Park on the
left.  After signs for Butser Hill and = Chalton, the=20 A3 descends and will be
signposted to become the A3(M).  Leave = the A3 at=20 junction 1 (ie do not
proceed onto the motorway).  At the end of = the=20 sliproad go right.  Pass
under the motorway and take an = immediate left=20 next to the Jehovas Witness
chapel and AB trucks.  This road = will bend=20 round to the left but you should
proceed straight up the hill in = front of=20 you.  The entrance to the fair site
will be via the field gate = at the=20 top of this hill.  .

From the south

Follow the A3(M)=20 northbound.  Leave at junction 2 (there is no exit = for
northbound=20 traffic at jnc 1).  At the end of the sliproad take the 3rd = exit
on the=20 roundabout signposted Emsworth B2149.  Aftera short distance = (about
1/4=20 mile) go left at the mini roundabout.  At the next mini roundabout=20 (next
to a bakers) go right.  Go past the brewery then the = Anchor=20 Pub.  Pass under
the motorway and take an immediate left next to = the=20 Jehovas Witness chapel
and AB trucks.  This road will bend round = to the=20 left but you should proceed
straight up the hill in front of = you.  The=20 entrance to the fair site will be
via the field gate at the top of = this=20 hill.  On arrival or should you be
lost call Kevin Cloud = Countryside=20 Ranger on 07798 737101.

From Exeter

Honiton then A35 = Bridport,=20 Dorchester.  After Bere Regis go  A31 Ringwood
then = M27.  M27=20 will become A27 near Portsmouth.  After Portsmouth exits = look
for signs=20 A3(M) London Guildford Petersfield.  Now follow instructions = above
from=20 the south.

From Bristol

A36 (? I think) Salisburyn the = follow=20 signs for Southampton.  Join M27
eastbound signposted Portsmouth = and=20 Brighton.M27 will become A27 near
Portsmouth.  After Portsmouth = exits=20 look for signs A3(M) London Guildford
Petersfield.  Now follow=20 instructions above from the south.

 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01D6_01C1F7CB.CD332F30-- From monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net Sat, 11 May 2002 21:03:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:03:02 -0400 From: Jeffrey Fulton monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site Dunno about any Saxons, but this Viking/Norman ordered one 3 weeks ago... Bjorn/Jef "Douglas Sunlin" wrote: >I might note that Jelling Dragon's site is newly spiffed up, and they do >take credit cards: >http://jelldragon.com/ > >On a side note, Paul Binns' Norman sword sure look pretty. Any thoughts as >to the likelihood of a Anglo-Saxon geneat having his hands on one? ><><><> <><><> <><><> > > >>From: "Robert Woodman" >>Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >>To: list-regia-na@lig.net >>Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site >>Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 04:23:43 +0000 >> >> >>I found this site while surfing >>http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~dmcm9040/talerwin/ >> >>The arms and armour is for re-enactment combat and the prices are not that >>bad. Does anyone know anything about this company? >> >>I want one of the pattern welded scramseaxes >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>list-regia-na mailing list >>list-regia-na@lig.net >>http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > ><><><> <><><> <><><> >Beoð ge gesunde, >Oswald of Baldurstrand >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age >http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ >http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > -- monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From hovtej@hotmail.com Sun, 12 May 2002 08:20:01 +0000 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 08:20:01 +0000 From: John Lambert hovtej@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site If you all mean the Binns Norman sword with the disk pommel (VS4), I (a Norman) bought one a couple of years ago from Jelling Dragon for Hastings 2000. It is well made and well balanced. If the current version is like mine, the "design" shown on the pommel in the Jelling Dragon picture is produced by reflections from a raised "nipple" in the center. You can see it in a picture of my sword at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/J_Lambert/hauberk.jpg The disk pommel is rather plain compared to some of the other designs, but I like it. I keep thinking about having it engraved some way to spiff it up. Are there any historical examples of types of engraving on disk pommels from our time period? John Lambert >From: monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net (Jeffrey Fulton) > >Dunno about any Saxons, but this Viking/Norman ordered one 3 weeks ago... > >Bjorn/Jef > >"Douglas Sunlin" wrote: > > >I might note that Jelling Dragon's site is newly spiffed up, and they do > >take credit cards: > >http://jelldragon.com/ > > > >On a side note, Paul Binns' Norman sword sure look pretty. Any thoughts >as > >to the likelihood of a Anglo-Saxon geneat having his hands on one? > ><><><> <><><> <><><> > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Sun, 12 May 2002 15:01:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 15:01:53 -0400 From: rmhowe MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Subject: [Regia-NA] The Kingdom of Atenveldt Monthly Arts and Sciences Webpage http://arts.atenveldt.org/newsletters.html Something everyone can learn from and contribute to. Lots of people have. Magnus From gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 13 May 2002 13:05:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:05:57 +0100 From: Hazel Uzzell gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Conference This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C1FA7E.EC3B0A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I received a letter from David Hill a couple of days ago informing me = about next years conference at Manchester. He asked me to advertise it = as widely as possible. 'Aetheberht King of Kent 560-616 and Third Bretwalda' The Manchester Centre for Anglo-Saxon Studies. Wed. 23rd to Fri. 25th April 2003 Directors David Hill & Gale Owen-Crocker. enquiries to- The Conference Manager Porth y waen Study centre The Paddocks Porth y waen Oswestry SY10 8LX e-mail portarch@hotmail.com Do try and get there, they are very good! Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C1FA7E.EC3B0A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
I received a letter from David Hill a = couple of=20 days ago informing me about next years conference at Manchester. He = asked me to=20 advertise it as widely as possible.
 
'Aetheberht King of Kent 560-616 and = Third=20 Bretwalda'
 
The Manchester Centre for Anglo-Saxon=20 Studies.
Wed. 23rd to Fri. 25th April = 2003
Directors David Hill & Gale=20 Owen-Crocker.
 
enquiries to- The Conference = Manager
Porth y waen Study centre
The Paddocks
Porth y waen
Oswestry
SY10 8LX
e-mail portarch@hotmail.com
 
Do try and get there, they are very=20 good!
Hazel
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C1FA7E.EC3B0A00-- From gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 13 May 2002 13:09:23 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:09:23 +0100 From: Hazel Uzzell gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C1FA7F.66DF8600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing in the Hartleys pack this time. By the way, any one know of a good source of med to heavy weight = bleached linen, 60" wide? Customer willing to pay up to =A330.00 per m. and needs 2 1/2 m? Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C1FA7F.66DF8600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nothing in the Hartleys pack this=20 time.
 
By the way, any one know of a good = source of med to=20 heavy weight bleached linen, 60" wide?
Customer willing to pay up to =A330.00 = per m. and=20 needs 2 1/2 m?
Hazel
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C1FA7F.66DF8600-- From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Mon, 13 May 2002 13:15:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:15:25 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus Hoaxing - from Kim This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014A_01C1FA80.3E4CE830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a spate of virus hoaxing about, many of which urge you to = delete system files as corrupt or as being the virus.exe itself.. Go and = have a look at the Washington Post's website http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176442.html BEFORE you delete them! Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_014A_01C1FA80.3E4CE830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is a spate of virus hoaxing about, many = of which=20 urge you to delete system files as corrupt or as being the virus.exe = itself.. Go=20 and have a look at the Washington Post's website
 
http://www.newsbyte= s.com/news/02/176442.html
 
BEFORE you delete them!
 
 

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the second mouse gets the = cheese!=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_014A_01C1FA80.3E4CE830-- From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Mon, 13 May 2002 14:57:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:57:24 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Largs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C1FA8E.7D89AFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand that there is a rumour going the rounds that another SS = Society that re-creates in our period will be at the Battle of Largs = this year. I have today spoken to the client and I can say categorically that the = battle is - as for some years now - being arranged by Andy Nicholson and = Allan McVie on behalf of Regia Anglorum as the local Regia Group = Leaders. It is, of course, possible that there will be members with dual = membership present, but as far as Andy Nicholson knows this is not the = case for any Scottish member of Regia. So, another bit of nonsense is reduced to ashes and blows away downwind = ........ Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C1FA8E.7D89AFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I understand that there is a rumour going the = rounds=20 that another SS Society that re-creates in our period will be at = the Battle=20 of Largs this year.
 
I have today spoken to the client and I can = say=20 categorically that the battle is - as for some years now - being = arranged by=20 Andy Nicholson and Allan McVie on behalf of Regia Anglorum as the local = Regia=20 Group Leaders.
 
It is, of course, possible that there will be = members=20 with dual membership present, but as far as Andy Nicholson knows this is = not the=20 case for any Scottish member of Regia.
 
So, another bit of nonsense is reduced to = ashes and=20 blows away downwind ........

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C1FA8E.7D89AFC0-- From CRMayhew@hotmail.com Mon, 13 May 2002 10:12:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:12:58 -0400 From: Charlotte Mayhew CRMayhew@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C1FA66.C1DED920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fabricstore.com sells many types of linen. I don't know off-hand how heavy their weights go. By the time you factor in shipping, they *might* get that high a price = per yard, but I doubt it... It's worth a look, though. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hazel Uzzell=20 To: Regia NA ; Regia E-Group=20 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:09 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth Nothing in the Hartleys pack this time. By the way, any one know of a good source of med to heavy weight = bleached linen, 60" wide? Customer willing to pay up to =A330.00 per m. and needs 2 1/2 m? Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C1FA66.C1DED920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
fabricstore.com sells many types of=20 linen.
I don't know off-hand how heavy their = weights=20 go.
By the time you factor in shipping, = they *might*=20 get that high a price per yard, but I doubt it...
It's worth a look, though.
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hazel Uzzell
To: Regia NA ; Regia=20 E-Group
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:09 = AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth

Nothing in the Hartleys pack this=20 time.
 
By the way, any one know of a good = source of med=20 to heavy weight bleached linen, 60" wide?
Customer willing to pay up to = =A330.00 per m. and=20 needs 2 1/2 m?
Hazel
------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C1FA66.C1DED920-- From kimberly@ka9q.net Mon, 13 May 2002 08:00:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:00:18 -0700 From: Kimberly Karn kimberly@ka9q.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus Hoaxing - from Kim At 01:15 PM 5/13/02 +0100, you wrote: >There is a spate of virus hoaxing about, many of which urge you to delete >system files as corrupt or as being the virus.exe itself.. Go and have a >look at the Washington Post's website > >http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/176442.html > >BEFORE you delete them! http://www.symantec.com/ The above URL is good to check out before you do anything about a virus or worm. Also get good virus scan software. Run it and update it frequently. Remember to scan your email attachments before you open them. Or start using linux instead of windows. It's free and it's security is far better than windows ever thought of doing. Kimberly "We are the origins of war, not history's forces nor the times nor justice nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of government nor any other thing. We are the killers we breed war... For the love of God, can't we love another just a little. That's how peace begins. We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities my children. We could change the world." Eleanor of Aquataine in the "Lion in Winter" From kimberly@ka9q.net Mon, 13 May 2002 08:19:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:19:30 -0700 From: Kimberly Karn kimberly@ka9q.net Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth At 01:09 PM 5/13/02 +0100, you wrote: >Nothing in the Hartleys pack this time. > >By the way, any one know of a good source of med to heavy weight bleached= =20 >linen, 60" wide? >Customer willing to pay up to =A330.00 per m. and needs 2 1/2 m? >Hazel http://fabrics-store.com/first.php www.fabric.com http://www.trimfabric.com/ http://www.fabricclub.com membership is ten a year and you get ten percent= =20 off on their fabric. but you do not have to be a member to order. The above URL's are stores that sell on-line. They are primarily in the=20 states, but the prices are good and you can look into shipping. They do not= =20 always have linen but take a look one of these might have what your friend= =20 is looking for. Kimberly/Roisin "We are the origins of war, not history's forces nor the times nor justice= =20 nor the lack of it nor causes nor religions nor ideas nor kinds of=20 government nor any other thing. We are the killers we breed war... For the= =20 love of God, can't we love another just a little. That's how peace begins.= =20 We have so much to love each other for. We have such possibilities my=20 children. We could change the world." Eleanor of Aquataine in the "Lion in= =20 Winter" From dsunlin@hotmail.com Mon, 13 May 2002 09:39:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 09:39:34 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site Actually I had my eyes on the VS3: http://jelldragon.com/images/norman_sword_vs3a.jpg Probably too "high tech" for any Anglo-Saxon but an Atheling, methinks. Nice though. Chris, do you know what the weight is on your blade? I'd be interested if Binns is able to keep the sword under three pounds. That's in contrast to my Del Tin 2070 at 2.2 lbs and a Angus Trim type X at around 1.5 lbs. >From: "John Lambert" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: RE: Re: [Regia-NA] arms and armour site >Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 08:20:01 +0000 > >If you all mean the Binns Norman sword with the disk pommel (VS4), I (a >Norman) bought one a couple of years ago from Jelling Dragon for Hastings >2000. It is well made and well balanced. If the current version is like >mine, the "design" shown on the pommel in the Jelling Dragon picture is >produced by reflections from a raised "nipple" in the center. You can see >it >in a picture of my sword at: >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/J_Lambert/hauberk.jpg > >The disk pommel is rather plain compared to some of the other designs, but >I >like it. I keep thinking about having it engraved some way to spiff it up. >Are there any historical examples of types of engraving on disk pommels >from >our time period? > >John Lambert > >>From: monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net (Jeffrey Fulton) >> >>Dunno about any Saxons, but this Viking/Norman ordered one 3 weeks ago... >> >>Bjorn/Jef >> >>"Douglas Sunlin" wrote: >> >> >I might note that Jelling Dragon's site is newly spiffed up, and they do >> >take credit cards: >> >http://jelldragon.com/ >> > >> >On a side note, Paul Binns' Norman sword sure look pretty. Any thoughts >>as >> >to the likelihood of a Anglo-Saxon geneat having his hands on one? >> ><><><> <><><> <><><> >> > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Oswald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From jacknotname@yahoo.com Mon, 13 May 2002 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Tarplee jacknotname@yahoo.com Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth --0-1698977779-1021321636=:5779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A couple of weeks ago I picked up about 11 yards of 7 oz linen from them, I thought the prices were preatty resonable. They also do volume discounts as my local barony found out when they put in a group order. They were also very kind, and had fast serrvice. hope that helps Matt Charlotte Mayhew wrote: fabricstore.com sells many types of linen.I don't know off-hand how heavy their weights go.By the time you factor in shipping, they *might* get that high a price per yard, but I doubt it...It's worth a look, though. --charlotte mayhew ----- Original Message ----- From: Hazel Uzzell To: Regia NA ; Regia E-Group Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:09 AMSubject: [Regia-NA] cloth Nothing in the Hartleys pack this time. By the way, any one know of a good source of med to heavy weight bleached linen, 60" wide?Customer willing to pay up to £30.00 per m. and needs 2 1/2 m?Hazel --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience --0-1698977779-1021321636=:5779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 A couple of weeks ago I picked up about 11 yards of 7 oz linen from them, I thought the prices were preatty resonable.  They also do volume discounts as my local barony found out when they put in a group order.

They were also very kind, and had fast serrvice.

hope that helps

Matt

  Charlotte Mayhew <CRMayhew@hotmail.com> wrote:

fabricstore.com sells many types of linen.
I don't know off-hand how heavy their weights go.
By the time you factor in shipping, they *might* get that high a price per yard, but I doubt it...
It's worth a look, though.
 
--charlotte mayhew
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:09 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] cloth

Nothing in the Hartleys pack this time.
 
By the way, any one know of a good source of med to heavy weight bleached linen, 60" wide?
Customer willing to pay up to £30.00 per m. and needs 2 1/2 m?
Hazel



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LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience --0-1698977779-1021321636=:5779-- From gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 13 May 2002 22:37:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 22:37:06 +0100 From: Hazel Uzzell gythe@snrd.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Cloth This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C1FACE.B60D0C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everone who posted addresses, I will forward them to the = client. Regards, Hazel ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C1FACE.B60D0C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C1FACE.B60D0C80-- From dsunlin@hotmail.com Tue, 14 May 2002 12:10:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 12:10:53 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Battle down under Here's a battle video from the Huscarls in Australia. It's about five minutes long. The site: http://uk.geocities.com/huscarls/photos.html The video file itself (if needed): http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/ian/tv/combat2.rm _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Tue, 14 May 2002 22:03:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:03:43 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Wychurst pics This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C1FB93.3678DF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've put some of the Wychurst photos on the Web. You can see them on=20 http://community.webshots.com/scripts/controlPanel.fcgi Also, some stationary engine stuff too if it should interest you Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C1FB93.3678DF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C1FB93.3678DF60-- From dsunlin@hotmail.com Tue, 14 May 2002 14:08:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 14:08:24 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Wychurst pics Maybe here? http://community.webshots.com/album/38008254YIfGOR ;) >From: "J. K. Siddorn" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: "Regia UK E-group" , >Subject: [Regia-NA] Wychurst pics >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:03:43 +0100 > >I've put some of the Wychurst photos on the Web. You can see them on > >http://community.webshots.com/scripts/controlPanel.fcgi > >Also, some stationary engine stuff too if it should interest you > >Regards, > > >Kim Siddorn. > >The early bird may get the worm - >but the second mouse gets the cheese! > > <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Oswald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Tue, 14 May 2002 23:29:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:29:33 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Wychurst pics ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Wychurst pics > Maybe here? > http://community.webshots.com/album/38008254YIfGOR Yes, that's right. Sorry, this is new to me and it's far from clear. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! > ;) > > > >From: "J. K. Siddorn" > >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net > >To: "Regia UK E-group" , > >Subject: [Regia-NA] Wychurst pics > >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:03:43 +0100 > > > >I've put some of the Wychurst photos on the Web. You can see them on > > > >http://community.webshots.com/scripts/controlPanel.fcgi > > > >Also, some stationary engine stuff too if it should interest you > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Kim Siddorn. > > > >The early bird may get the worm - > >but the second mouse gets the cheese! > > > > > > > <><><> <><><> <><><> > Beoð ge gesunde, > Oswald of Baldurstrand > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age > http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ > http://photos.yahoo.com/gnomewrks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Tue, 14 May 2002 23:37:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 23:37:51 -0400 From: rmhowe MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Subject: * Re: [Regia-NA] [MedEnc] Portable easily made forge / Re: blacksmithing Fine with me. Just make the point that -you've- changed it. I managed to lose the photos I had of myself somewhere. Ann brought in dinner at an inopportune moment. I didn't see them when I was going through stuff for taxes either. My out of state taxes were $455 this year. All I could find was my notes to George Johnson. If you are still offering Copies of Chronicle for my articles I got the first three from last year in one shipment and none since. I copy either three of you or the list on things I think might be appropriate. Bob Howe 5019 Kaplan Drive Raleigh, N.C. 27606 United States ON the other hand we may attend Pennsic again this year. If you need to get in touch with me put an * in front of the subject line. Being on too many lists forces me to read by list. I can't take notes any other way. Odd notes to me are found by accident. Magnus "J. K. Siddorn" wrote: > > Hi Magnus, > > This should find a corner in Chronicle next time around. If it;'s OK with > you, I'll add some parts where voltages/ suppliers are different in the UK. > These I'll render in a different font. > > You might enjoy this newsgroup and there are other similar ones in the > States too. > > http://www.newsgate.co.uk/uk/uk.rec.engines.stationary/index.html > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn. > > The early bird may get the worm - > but the second mouse gets the cheese! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rmhowe" > To: ; "- Regia Anglorum - North > America" ; "- Atlantia" > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 8:55 PM > Subject: [Regia-NA] [MedEnc] Portable easily made forge / Re: blacksmithing > > > The most basic forge can simply be a hole in the ground with > > a pipe (tuyere) supplying air from beneath or beside it. > > > > Or: > > > > An easily made portable forge can be had with some basic 2" > > pipe fittings, an electric blower, and a cast iron brake drum. > > > > I have had three forges in my time, a brake drum forge > > (actually my favorite), a very large commercial Buffalo forge, > > and a cast iron bandsaw brazing forge in which large tongs > > were heated to braze huge bandsaw blades together. I sold the > > Bandsaw brazing forge because it got too hot to be anywhere near. > > I traded the full size forge eight years ago when it became > > impossible for me to hammer much anymore, with a few other > > items to make a fair trade for a milling machine/lathe combination. > > > > To make an easily transportable Brake Drum forge you need: > > > > A brake drum from a car. Larger car sizes are preferable. > > (Truck brake drums are huge, deep, and have huge holes.) > > These are found at any scrapyard. > > > > Some fire clay, and some Hydraulic cement to mix it with > > 50/50, obtainable at a building supply place. > > Something to mix it in. A plastic bucket for example. > > Something to trowel it in with. (Plug your blower holes first.) > > or > > Some -soft- refractory brick to cut to fit the bottom > > of the forge. You can cut this stuff with a hacksaw. > > If your local brickyard/home supply place doesn't have > > it try a pottery supply store. > > > > You also need a set of -2"- (preferable) or 1 1/2" pipes: > > A pipe flange for the bottom of the brake drum, where the hole is. > > In my case I scrounged around and found an old cast iron > > gear to put over this. The center of the gear had a one > > inch hole in it and I drilled the outside of the gear with > > a number of 3/8" holes at an angle tapering to the center > > to create a focused air blast a few inches above the gear. > > This is where you obtain maximum heat. > > You could also use a cast iron drain plate or some holed > > stainless steel to help cover the hole in the bottom of > > the Brake drum over the 2" pipe, which is large enough to > > allow chunks of coal/coke/clinker to drop down it. > > Ordinary steel will burn through because of the carbon in > > it. Cast Iron won't burn easily and stainless would have > > to melt. To drill stainless steel you will need to buy > > or borrow a cobalt steel (some say C or M42) drill bit. > > > > Rest of pipes: > > 2 six inch long threaded pipe nipples to screw above and > > below a 'T' connector. The upper one screws into the flange. > > The lower one screw into the Pipe cap or oil drum cap. > > An oil drum cap to screw on the bottom of the bottom 6" > > nipple to function as a clean out. I used a piece of > > strap steel bolted to the cap with a counterweight to > > simply allow me to raise it with my foot to clean > > the pipe out. You could just stick a nail in the lock > > holes that are in these caps. If you can't find one > > you can simply use a pipe cap. You need a way to clean > > out the pipe either way. > > A foot long piece of pipe threaded at both ends. > > to screw horizontally into the 'T" fitting to connect > > it to the blower. > > > > Some bolts and nuts appropriate to what you are bolting > > through. > > > > A Drill and a few metal bits. > > > > A Piece of Sheet metal to make a blower cover out of. > > > > A little knob and screw. > > > > Most hardware stores have all of the above in stock. > > > > A blower: > > This can be a 120 volt electric blower with plug and > > in line switch (buy and install it in the hot side of > > the wire) or a 12 volt blower to hook up to your car > > battery with a set of alligator clamps. Or both interchangeably. > > In my case my initial blower had a square hole, I made a > > wooden block to fit the opening, screwed the block inside > > the square opening and drilled a hole I could thread the > > 1 foot long pipe into. (Alternately you could use a hair > > dryer, or a vacuum exhaust. They just aren't as controlable.) > > > > If you are going to be working on damp ground I recommend a > > three wire system hooked up to a portable GFCI or plug it to an > > in line GFCI, also known as a Ground Fault Circuit Interruptor. > > If you can't find a place to connect the green wire > > to on your blower, attach it to a bolt on the outside motor casing. > > This is so you won't get a fatal shock. If you don't know > > for sure what you are doing, ask an electrician or look > > in an electrical book. > > > > (I got my sophomore housing at college because my predecessor > > at the house electrocuted himself with a vacuum cord he'd > > dropped into a puddle he'd made washing his car mats. > > I am told that can be a slow way to go.) > > > > GFCI's can be had for as little as $10 or less. They only > > work on three wire grounded circuits with Black (hot)/ > > Green (Ground) / White (Neutral) wires. GFCI's cut the > > circuit before you can receive a fatal shock. This is what > > is required within six feet of water outlets in your house > > as well. Look in the kitchen and bathroom. They usually > > have a test and an on switch on them. > > Portable ones are $10-35. > > > > Hot black wires go to brass colored screws, White to the silver > > colored screw, green to the green screw or wire or to the bare > > wire without any insulation inside the wall box. > > (My wife could have easily died when someone hooked these up > > incorrectly and hotwired a new stove case. She did get a shock.) > > If you are wiring in a GFCI wallbox remember to cut the power > > at the main panel. Test to make sure it's off. A radio or light > > that is turned on will tell you when it is off if you don't > > have an electrical circuit tester. > > > > Northern http://www.northernstores.com/ > > and stove supply stores sell 120 volt blowers. > > So does American Scientific Supply or Surplus Supply usually. > > > > Blowers also exist within old air conditioners. > > These can be 120 or 240 volt in larger ones. > > (The problem with old air conditioners is that they > > also contain freon, and if you rupture a pipe getting > > one out you can blind yourself with the spray. I don't > > recommend this, but if you dig one out of one of these > > at the very least wear eye protection, with or without > > a face shield.) Getting one out can be difficult, so > > I recommend a different source. Call around. > > > > 12 volt blowers can be picked up at any auto scrapyard. > > They are used in the car heater system under the dash > > board. Alligator clamps may be had at Radio Shack or an auto > > supply place. Make sure you put the insulators back on their > > handles. Or put a lighter receptacle plug in instead. > > > > A blower's blast is simple to control by simply putting an > > egg shaped piece of metal over the intake hole with > > a small bolt in the small end of the egg shape to pivot > > on. I also put a little knob on mine opposite the pivot. > > Sliding it to cover or uncover the intake hole changes > > your airblast to the forge. > > > > When you are not heating metal switch the blower off. > > This saves fuel, the fire won't go out. > > > > In my case I mounted the whole thing on some old metal stool > > legs bolting the leg tops to the bottom of the brake drum. > > > > Basic set up: > > Brake drum on top, thick rim horizontal. > > _____________________ > > |_____________________| > > |_____ _____| > > | \ _ _ / |-- fire clay/cement > > |______|_| |_|______| infill here. > > '-|__|-' bolted together > > | | > > |__| > > | |_ Tee fitting. > > | |-----------| > > | _|-----------| to blower > > |____| > > | | > > | | > > _|__|_ > > (o|______|0) pipe tank cap / cleanout. > > > > Alternately you can set it up on blocks instead of putting > > legs under it. The blocks go on either side of the bottom > > of the brake drum. Mix the fire clay/hydraulic cement > > and cover the area inside the bowl on either side > > of the blower hole(s) in the bottom. Plug the holes > > first. Any bolting/assembly should be done before > > you lay your fireclay/cement. > > > > These things make an interesting place to have a > > cookout/party session around as well (when the wind > > doesn't shift your way). A hot dog can be done > > over wood scraps in about half a minute, or a > > marshmallow in about five seconds. My blower at > > full opening would produce a wood fire about a > > foot wide and four feet long. Coal/Coke is a bit > > more controllable. Coke is coal with the impurities > > burned out of it. Charcoal briquettes are easily > > obtained. Just get an adequate supply. > > > > That in-line switch really helps. > > You can obtain an in-line cord switch anywhere > > that sells electrical supplies. > > > > You also need a little can with holes in the bottom > > and a steel strap handle bolted to it to control > > the fire as a sprinkler. You need a water bucket > > anyway to quench your steel in. > > A piece of 5/16' iron made like a poker with a 90 > > degree bend at the end to pull out clinkers. > > Clinkers are what is left when the coal burns itself > > out. I bent the other end of mine to make a handle shape. > > > > This forge will get hot enough to easily burn steel up, > > so watch your pieces. A beginner also needs thick leather > > gloves, a real pair of American-made Vise-Grip pliers > > (trade name, better than the softer Chinese imitations) > > (round jaws style recommended) and a smooth faced hammer. > > Other hammers with crossed straight and ball peen heads > > will help. Any damage to the hammer face or your anvil > > will transfer with each blow to your piece you are working. > > Leather gloves will smoke before you feel the heat. > > > > Use some eye protection. Red hot steel produces scale. > > Hot scale or embers hurt. For a smoother finished item, > > brush off the scale each time with a long handled wire > > brush before you hammer it. Natural fiber clothes are a > > *lot* safer than synthetics. > > > > Steel anvils tend to ring. Cast iron kind of clunks. > > Cast iron anvils are a lot more prone to spalling or > > throwing off chuncks. Hitting it with a hammer and listening > > might help you find a better one. Some have steel welded > > to a cast iron base. A good quality anvil is about $4+ > > per pound. Centaur Forge is on the internet. Cheap > > Chinese imitations claim to be useful. I don't happen to > > have one. Rail Road Rail can be made into an anvil. > > > > Since I am writing this in the U.S.A. I am using electrical > > terms familiar to us. Your overseas wiring may be different. > > > > Master Magnus Malleus, OL © 2002 R.M. Howe > > *No reposting my writings to newsgroups, especially rec.org.sca, > > or the SCA-Universitas elist. I view this as violating copyright > > restrictions. As long as it's to reenactor or SCA -closed- > > subscriber based email lists or individuals I don't mind. It's > > meant to help people without aggravating me.* Inclusion, in the > > http://www.Florilegium.org/ as always is permitted. > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Wed, 15 May 2002 00:01:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:01:55 -0400 From: rmhowe MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Nearly ready made saxe blades / Portable easily made forge / Re: blacksmithing Well, I -thought- that was a private reply. It looked like one. Silly me. Well, few secrets now. You should see the pile of Norselist digests I am behind on. I was on the jeweller's and machinist's newsgroups for a while. I learned about spam. Of course recently Yahoo has put me back in the same boat. Dammit. That was several years ago. Just don't have time for everything. Maybe one day I'll get the two other lathes running (of 4). Cleaning 50 years of dried oil/grease is gonna be more fun than I can stand. It has been and it continues to be. I'm thinking lots of fat cotton twine soaked in laquer thinner for the threads on my 1948 little used 9" South Bend. As a slight matter of note: I recently bought a couple of knife edge Nicholson files, made with teeth only on the back edge, what would be the very back of a saxe knife should you wish to make one. one was about 11" and one was about 14" with tang. Now the knife edge was straight and near enough to make an edge. The backs tapered down with no teeth to about an inch from the edge end where it was a square cut. A little grinding and some judicious retempering and you have a very high carbon knife. There are no teeth on the flats of the files, and those on the back only run 2/3 the way to the tip from the shoulder, and they are 1/32" deep. The finish on the flats is a sanded temper, leaving little lines, rather like one would see if it had been heavily stoned. I have no idea how large these things may be in a catalog. I bought mine from a flea market dealer who got them possibly as seconds and I can't see anything wrong with them. Unfortunately he had no more at the time. Were I looking for a high carbon blank appropriate, and thick backed nearly like the originals, I should look after the Nicholson source. For you Brits, Nicholson is top of the line over here. Swiss files are similarly revered. Magnus "J. K. Siddorn" wrote: > > Hi Magnus, > > This should find a corner in Chronicle next time around. If it;'s OK with > you, I'll add some parts where voltages/ suppliers are different in the UK. > These I'll render in a different font. > > You might enjoy this newsgroup and there are other similar ones in the > States too. > > http://www.newsgate.co.uk/uk/uk.rec.engines.stationary/index.html > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn. From MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Wed, 15 May 2002 00:55:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 00:55:17 -0400 From: rmhowe MMagnusM@bellsouth.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Kim's Shocking Advice "J. K. Siddorn" wrote: > Magnus wrote. > (I got my sophomore housing at college because my predecessor > at the house electrocuted himself with a vacuum cord he'd > dropped into a puddle he'd made washing his car mats. > I am told that can be a slow way to go.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > It's a lot quicker over here with 250 volt mains! Mains voltage is something > you learn an early and deep respect for in the UK. However ............. > > When I was 14 or so, I had a fishing friend and he showed me a good way of > collecting worms. Take two six inch nails, connect them to two bits of wire > and push them into the ground about six feet apart. Attach a plug to the > other ends of the wires and shove it in the socket. You should see those > little critters come flying out of the ground! > > To the naive and the youngsters who might read this I will simply say this > DON'T STAND IN THE GARDEN WHILST YOU TRY IT! > > Usual disclaimers .............. > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn. I've got some suicide cords. I also have a ten-amp plug box with breaker and some portable GFCI's. These things wear out. They come in quite nice when I want to test the odd useful looking motor. I switch out older 3 phases for single phases as we don't have industrial wiring in my shop. For quite some time - 30 years or more after WWII they used to sell ex-army DC hand generators here in Popular Mechanics for the very same purpose - levitating worms. I want to see someone do it at high table during feast. (But then I am a subversive. There was that John Goodman film where they wiped out all the Royals though.... Boy, I wish. Not yours, ours. The third worst failing of the SCA (after the name, and the ridiculously wide time period) is the lack of ability to outlaw obnoxious ex-royals from reentering Crown Tournament. You simply have to try to outlive or ignore them. The idea of Swearing Fealty to some is flat out repulsive.) At least Regia avoids this. Of course our household wiring is alternating current. Yours is direct. Both will grab you or throw you. I walked off of a mountain onto an unfamiliar ridge in near dark one night right into an electric fence. I picked myself up about ten feet back. Hit me on both thighs -I think-. May have been the second time I've been consciously knocked out outside an Operating Room. The first time I browned out at age two plugging a bobby-pin into a 220 circuit in a J.C. Penny's store. The whole world went chocolate color, not to mention the burned flesh smell. I remember. Extremely clearly. At NCSU one of our electricians got caught. Another man tried to grab him at the panel and was killed. The third knocked them loose losing his thumb. I knew another electrician who had all his fillings melted and spent months in the hospital. A couple of others landed in the hospital by digging for a major electric line under the asphalt with a pneumatic spade. They actually found it. They were burned by hot flaming asphalt too. I knocked my sister (and Dad) loose once from a fan in a Kmart. I now have a -similarly- once botched up Industrial size fan I got for $15 in a charity where they had hot-wired the chassis too. Worked fine when I connected it up right. Might have killed them. Good thing it didn't appear to run - on a wet floor. Not often you can save someone's life by buying something they later want back either. Ingrates. I told them how close they'd come messing with it. It makes for very nice whirlpool cooling downstairs. My wife has nearly been killed by delivery men who hot-wired a new stove case hot soon after we married. So when -others- did it twice more on the new Kenmore washer/dryer(s) I caught them. Nine deliveries to get one not dented with a good transmission. Whirlpool ain't what it used to be. Neither are delivery-men. There must be a huge warehouse of Kenmore machines with goobs running around like a bunch of monkeys switching parts to make ONE GOOD ONE. I shit thee not. Colored wires should go to the same color - right? They should test these goobs for color- blindness before they send them out. I caught one throwing a rubber gasket he'd torn into the belting as well. Ignorant people can kill you. So can stupid assumptions. One reason I try to explain potential dangers so clearly in my articles. I don't think any of us are necessarily safe from ourselves either. I don't know too many men outside of some machinists who make it to old age in physical demanding trades like construction. If an accident doesn't get you, and most trades people average one major one every four years, you gradually break down. You don't really realize it until you work in shops with lots of older men, and watch them disable one after another. Magnus From kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Wed, 15 May 2002 14:23:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:23:31 +0100 From: J. K. Siddorn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: [Regia-NA] Mailshot This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C1FC1C.16D4E760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am about to send an envelope to all members of the High Witan. Amongst = other things it will include the Minutes of the HWBM and the papers for = the Postal Vote required in those minutes. Whilst about it, I usually enclose an information sheet about = corrections to Chronicle (dates for Largs & Detling etc) and anything = else I/we have to circulate - details of the Shrewsbury Carnival on = 15th/16th June for instance. Is there anything else I should be sending out at this time? I will be = posting the envelopes on Friday afternoon. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C1FC1C.16D4E760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am about to send an envelope to all members = of the=20 High Witan. Amongst other things it will include the Minutes of the HWBM = and the=20 papers for the Postal Vote required in those minutes.
 
Whilst about it, I usually enclose an = information sheet=20 about corrections to Chronicle (dates for Largs & Detling etc) and = anything=20 else I/we have to circulate - details of the Shrewsbury Carnival on = 15th/16th June for instance.
 
Is there anything else I should be sending = out at this=20 time? I will be posting the envelopes on Friday afternoon.

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01C1FC1C.16D4E760-- From dsunlin@hotmail.com Wed, 15 May 2002 11:09:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:09:27 -0700 From: Douglas Sunlin dsunlin@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Ready-made 11th c costume This may not be up to snuff, but is worthy of examination. Ready-made 11th-century men's costume: http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/ccloth02.html They don't say, but it appears to be of wool: http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/cpics/cloth12.jpg _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From CRMayhew@hotmail.com Wed, 15 May 2002 14:35:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 14:35:25 -0400 From: Charlotte Mayhew CRMayhew@hotmail.com Subject: [Regia-NA] Ready-made 11th c costume The description says "Roman to 12th Century"--that's pretty broad!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Ready-made 11th c costume > This may not be up to snuff, but is worthy of examination. > > Ready-made 11th-century men's costume: > http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/ccloth02.html > > They don't say, but it appears to be of wool: > http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/cpics/cloth12.jpg > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From yolli@lineone.net Thu, 16 May 2002 00:29:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 00:29:45 +0100 From: yolli yolli@lineone.net Subject: [Regia-NA] Ready-made 11th c costume Hmmm, £75 or so would buy you some really nice fabric. I think all members should really get to understand what a pain it can be to sew and to get the pattern and cut correct. To my mind it's a right of passage just like making your first pair of shoes. The garment is a bit short to my mind. I recommend that the tunic should reach just below the knee before it is belted and hitched up. Roll. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Ready-made 11th c costume > This may not be up to snuff, but is worthy of examination. > > Ready-made 11th-century men's costume: > http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/ccloth02.html > > They don't say, but it appears to be of wool: > http://www.varmouries.com/cloth/cpics/cloth12.jpg From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 16 23:14:08 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:14:08 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Various Websites Message-ID: <3CE42F30.2C169D89@bellsouth.net> Songs of the Vikings: http://home.online.no/~alberlie/Vikings.htm Viking Shields: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/shield.html http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/tirskom.html An authentic bucket maker: Five Rivers Chapmanry ~ purveyors of quality hand-crafted cooperage, fine hand-sewn embroidered garments, historical sewing patterns & embroidery supplies (519) 799-5577, fax (519) 799-5418 http://www.5rivers.org email: info@5rivers.org Sara's Chainmail Connection: http://www.chainmailconnection.com/ The Mead Hall: http://www.brewery.org/MHall.html Mead Brewing Archive: http://www.circus.com/~omni/mead.html Kenelme Digby Pages: http://realbeer.com/spencer/digby.html Boots, Horns, etc. by Bohemond: http://www.highfiber.com/~bohemond/Bootshop/horn.html Turnshoes: http://www.turnshoes.co.uk/ Royal Irish Academy: http://www.ria.ie/publications/publications.html http://www.ria.ie/publications/books/old-index.html#viking Lang, James T.: Viking-Age Decorated Wood, a Study of It's Ornament and Style: Medieval Dublin Excavations 1962-81 Series B1. Dublin: Royal Irish Academy. 1988. http://www.ria.org/ ISBN: 0901714682 hardback, 0901714690 paperback. As the title suggests this book is more concerned with decoration than function, many items are fragmentary, but the sorts of things represented are: a small carved box & lid, a stopper, stylus, weavers' swords, toggles, an awl, knife handles, bowls, spoons, winders, a harness bow, a plane, a writing tablet, a shuttle(?), a carding comb, toys, and fragments of larger things like benches and chairs. Wallace, Patrick F.(Ed.): Miscellanea 1: Medieval Dublin Excavations 1962-81 National Museum of Ireland, 48pp PB Royal Irish Academy, Dublin, 1988 PB, ISBN 0901714712, HB ISBN 0901714712. $14 from Amazon.com. The first section is a Bibliography of Dublin 840-1300 listing all articles. About 5 pages of solid bibliography by Patrick Wallace. The second section is A 'Winchester-style' Bronze Mount by Andrew Halpin. This depicts four mounts. Similar ones are thought to possibly have been sword pommels. This one is highly carved in an animalistic romanesque style and is thought to have been a ceremonial staff end of some type. (Although to me it looks like the animals would have been upside down in context). 10 C. English Import. Two inches wide by about 5/8" thick. Shown actual size in three orthographic drawings, and one photo. The third section if Ship Graffiti and Models by Arne-Emil Christianson. This one looks like fun, it has a number of graffiti of early ships including a horned dragon head ship and some obvious toys and models. Both carved models and real boats are illustrated. Also a Birka coin and a wooden gaming piece from High Street which is rather like a checker piece. 25 illus. Bibliography. The fourth section is Romanesque bookbinding fragments by Joseph McDonnell and has a number of book stamp styles illustrated. Not the actual punches but the impressions of them. This kind of illustration is fairly rare. The leather bits and the six different stamp designs used are depicted. The last section if Pilgrim Souvenirs by Brian Spencer which consists of quite a number of differently shaped Ampullae. Ten illustrations and about 40 citations in the bibliography. Treasures of Irish Art 3000 BC to 1500 AD is there in the Irish Edition. This is one of the best books on Jewellery ever photographed and printed. Absolutely stunning. I have the English edition and the two above. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 17 18:44:40 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:44:40 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Ernst Schwartzkopf's Plain and Ornamental Forging back in print Message-ID: <3CE54188.A8928946@bellsouth.net> http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=sl&ac=sl&qi=pjKbhq4RqgnO.x4GdD36bqtpjKut8c36:13:99 Schwarzkopf, Ernst: Plain and Ornamental Forging ISBN: 1879335956 Publisher: Astragal Press Softcover, 281 pages $18.95 U.S. For simple to fancy forging this one is hard to beat. It was quite hard to come by prior to this reprint. It has some techniques which frequently are not found in many other blacksmithing books. A wonderful bargain at the above price. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 17 18:22:37 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 13:22:37 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] MoAS Newsletter Message-ID: <3CE53C5D.BBD85EAA@bellsouth.net> This is the Atenveldt Arts and Sciences Newsletter that even Atlantians contribute to - They are now in PDF format and include subjects like Karen Larsdottir's Needlework, Mistress Ingvild's Arts and Sciences paper, Leatherwork, Bone, Embroidery, History, papermaking, etc. They generally run from 30 to 71 pages. People from all over the Known World contribute to it. The later ones include color pictures now. MoAS Newsletter The Issues of the Minister of Arts and Sciences Newsletter for the Kingdom of Atenveldt http://arts.atenveldt.org/ Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 17 19:43:30 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hazel Uzzell) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:43:30 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Various Websites References: <3CE42F30.2C169D89@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <003801c1fdd2$be321fc0$695186d9@oemcomputer> With reference to the painted shields, see my excellent booklet for paint recipes!!! Hazel > Songs of the Vikings: > http://home.online.no/~alberlie/Vikings.htm > > Viking Shields: > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/shield.html > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/tirskom.html > > An authentic bucket maker: > Five Rivers Chapmanry ~ purveyors of quality hand-crafted cooperage, > fine hand-sewn embroidered garments, historical sewing patterns & > embroidery supplies (519) 799-5577, fax (519) 799-5418 > http://www.5rivers.org email: info@5rivers.org > > Sara's Chainmail Connection: > http://www.chainmailconnection.com/ > > The Mead Hall: > http://www.brewery.org/MHall.html > Mead Brewing Archive: > http://www.circus.com/~omni/mead.html > Kenelme Digby Pages: > http://realbeer.com/spencer/digby.html > > Boots, Horns, etc. by Bohemond: > http://www.highfiber.com/~bohemond/Bootshop/horn.html > > Turnshoes: > http://www.turnshoes.co.uk/ > > Royal Irish Academy: > http://www.ria.ie/publications/publications.html > http://www.ria.ie/publications/books/old-index.html#viking > Lang, James T.: Viking-Age Decorated Wood, a Study of It's Ornament > and Style: Medieval Dublin Excavations 1962-81 Series B1. Dublin: > Royal Irish Academy. 1988. http://www.ria.org/ ISBN: 0901714682 > hardback, > 0901714690 paperback. As the title suggests this book is more concerned > with decoration than function, many items are fragmentary, but the sorts > of things represented are: a small carved box & lid, a stopper, stylus, > weavers' swords, toggles, an awl, knife handles, bowls, spoons, winders, > a harness bow, a plane, a writing tablet, a shuttle(?), a carding comb, > toys, and fragments of larger things like benches and chairs. > > Wallace, Patrick F.(Ed.): Miscellanea 1: Medieval Dublin Excavations > 1962-81 National Museum of Ireland, 48pp PB Royal Irish Academy, Dublin, > 1988 PB, ISBN 0901714712, HB ISBN 0901714712. $14 from Amazon.com. > The first section is a Bibliography of Dublin 840-1300 listing all > articles. > About 5 pages of solid bibliography by Patrick Wallace. > The second section is A 'Winchester-style' Bronze Mount by Andrew > Halpin. This depicts four mounts. Similar ones are thought to possibly > have been sword pommels. This one is highly carved in an animalistic > romanesque style and is thought to have been a ceremonial staff end of > some type. (Although to me it looks like the animals would have been > upside down in context). 10 C. English Import. Two inches wide by about > 5/8" thick. Shown actual size in three orthographic drawings, and one > photo. > The third section if Ship Graffiti and Models by Arne-Emil > Christianson. > This one looks like fun, it has a number of graffiti of early ships > including a horned dragon head ship and some obvious toys and models. > Both carved models and real boats are illustrated. Also a Birka coin and > a wooden gaming piece from High Street which is rather like a checker > piece. > 25 illus. Bibliography. > The fourth section is Romanesque bookbinding fragments by Joseph > McDonnell and has a number of book stamp styles illustrated. Not the > actual punches but the impressions of them. This kind of illustration is > fairly rare. The leather bits and the six different stamp designs used > are depicted. > The last section if Pilgrim Souvenirs by Brian Spencer which consists > of quite a number of differently shaped Ampullae. Ten illustrations and > about 40 citations in the bibliography. > > Treasures of Irish Art 3000 BC to 1500 AD is there in the Irish Edition. > This is one of the best books on Jewellery ever photographed and > printed. > Absolutely stunning. I have the English edition and the two above. > > Magnus > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon May 20 10:17:58 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:17:58 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Just glowing dear........ Message-ID: <002a01c1ffdf$3b8fe340$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C1FFE7.9D3BBA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sweat Kills Germs - Official Hot and sweaty during a battle? Padded jack getting stiff with age and = salt? Well never mind, now you have a perfect excuse! German researchers have identified a protein, dermcidin, that is = manufactured only in the sweat glands. Test-tube experiments found that = dermcidin kills a variety of bateria, including E.coli, E.faecalis, and = Staphyloccus aureus, which can infect skin wounds, as well as Candida = albicans, a fungus that can cause thrush. Sweat carries the protein to the skin's surface to guard against invading organisms. =20 One might make the reasonable assessment that the body is more at risk = of external injury during exercise than whilst watching Neighbours - = although the mind may not be, of course. When your loved one takes you to task for smelling like an old horse at = the top of a hill in July, you can tell them you are taking precautions = against bacteriological attack.=20 Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C1FFE7.9D3BBA30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 Sweat Kills=20 Germs - Official

 Hot and sweaty during a battle? Padded jack = getting=20 stiff with age and salt? Well never mind, now you have a perfect = excuse!

 German researchers have identified a protein, = dermcidin, that is manufactured only in the sweat glands.  = Test-tube=20 experiments found that dermcidin kills a variety of bateria, including = E.coli,=20 E.faecalis, and Staphyloccus aureus, which can infect skin wounds, as = well as=20 Candida albicans, a fungus that can cause thrush.  Sweat carries = the=20 protein to
the skin's surface to guard against invading = organisms. 

 One might make the reasonable assessment that = the body=20 is more at risk of external injury during exercise than whilst watching=20 Neighbours – although the mind may not be, of course.

 When=20 your loved one takes you to task for smelling like an old horse at the = top of a=20 hill in July, you can tell them you are taking precautions against=20 bacteriological attack.


Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the second mouse gets the = cheese!=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C1FFE7.9D3BBA30-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon May 20 18:56:16 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:56:16 EDT Subject: [Regia-NA] Just glowing dear........ Message-ID: <129.11954902.2a1a92c0@cs.com> Yeah...that's what I told her but it just didn't fly. Oh well...I guess I'll have to start bathing again. Regards, Jeff/Thorfinn kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk writes: << Sweat Kills Germs - Official Hot and sweaty during a battle? Padded jack getting stiff with age and salt? Well never mind, now you have a perfect excuse! German researchers have identified a protein, dermcidin, that is manufactured only in the sweat glands. Test-tube experiments found that dermcidin kills a variety of bateria, including E.coli, E.faecalis, and Staphyloccus aureus, which can infect skin wounds, as well as Candida albicans, a fungus that can cause thrush. Sweat carries the protein to the skin's surface to guard against invading organisms. One might make the reasonable assessment that the body is more at risk of external injury during exercise than whilst watching Neighbours - although the mind may not be, of course. When your loved one takes you to task for smelling like an old horse at the top of a hill in July, you can tell them you are taking precautions against bacteriological attack. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! >> From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon May 20 18:56:00 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:56:00 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Group in Denmark Message-ID: <3CE938B0.F5A21A33@bellsouth.net> http://ask-vikingekampgruppe.dk/english.html From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon May 20 21:57:08 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:57:08 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Last weekend - thanks Message-ID: <007a01c20040$e7b5e640$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C20049.495A4320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to all that attended both Horndean and Sutton Courtenay. Both = shows were more than adequately attended and both clients expressed a = desire to see our smiling faces again. I went to Horndean myself and the client commented that I had put him in = a difficult position, as he had intended to look for other re-enactment = societies in other periods in future years, but the audience liked us so = much that it looked as though we were to be a "core feature"! It shows what can be done. As at Easter, the society was gainfully = employed and the members enjoyed themselves in seperate events. You will = be pleased to hear that this weekend earned Regia about the same as we = used to get for an English Heritage three day event ...............;o)) Thanks again! Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C20049.495A4320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to all that attended both Horndean and = Sutton=20 Courtenay. Both shows were more than adequately attended and both = clients=20 expressed a desire to see our smiling faces again.
 
I went to Horndean myself and the client = commented that=20 I had put him in a difficult position, as he had intended to look for = other=20 re-enactment societies in other periods in future years, but the = audience liked=20 us so much that it looked as though we were to be a "core = feature"!
 
It shows what can be done. As at Easter, the = society=20 was gainfully employed and the members enjoyed themselves in seperate = events.=20 You will be pleased to hear that this weekend earned Regia about the = same as we=20 used to get for an English Heritage three day event=20 ...............;o))
 
Thanks again!

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C20049.495A4320-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue May 21 04:08:58 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Chris Knight) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:08:58 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Just glowing dear........ Message-ID: >From: "J. K. Siddorn" >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: "Regia UK E-group" , >Subject: [Regia-NA] Just glowing dear........ >Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:17:58 +0100 > > Sweat Kills Germs - Official > Hot and sweaty during a battle? Padded jack getting stiff with age and >salt? Well never mind, now you have a perfect excuse! > > German researchers have identified a protein, dermcidin, that is >manufactured only in the sweat glands. Test-tube experiments found that >dermcidin kills a variety of bateria, including E.coli, E.faecalis, and >Staphyloccus aureus, which can infect skin wounds, as well as Candida >albicans, a fungus that can cause thrush. Sweat carries the protein to >the skin's surface to guard against invading organisms. > > One might make the reasonable assessment that the body is more at risk of >external injury during exercise than whilst watching Neighbours - although >the mind may not be, of course. > > When your loved one takes you to task for smelling like an old horse at >the top of a hill in July, you can tell them you are taking precautions >against bacteriological attack. > > >Regards, > > >Kim Siddorn. > >The early bird may get the worm - >but the second mouse gets the cheese! > hmmmmm well that's all and well for those scurvy saxons. Though we Norsemen take greater pride in our personal hygiene:) Your manuscripts prove it;P Yours in complete tom foolery. Chris Knight _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue May 21 16:32:03 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:32:03 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Just glowing dear........ References: <129.11954902.2a1a92c0@cs.com> Message-ID: <3CEA6873.10327EAE@bellsouth.net> Jurdank3123@cs.com wrote: > > Yeah...that's what I told her but it just didn't fly. Oh well...I guess I'll > have to start bathing again. Regards, - Jeff/Thorfinn > > kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > > << Sweat Kills Germs - Official > Hot and sweaty during a battle? Padded jack getting stiff with age and > salt? Well never mind, now you have a perfect excuse! > > German researchers have identified a protein, dermcidin, that is > manufactured only in the sweat glands. Test-tube experiments found that > dermcidin kills a variety of bateria, including E.coli, E.faecalis, and > Staphyloccus aureus, which can infect skin wounds, as well as Candida > albicans, a fungus that can cause thrush. Sweat carries the protein to > the skin's surface to guard against invading organisms. > > One might make the reasonable assessment that the body is more at risk of > external injury during exercise than whilst watching Neighbours - although > the mind may not be, of course. > > When your loved one takes you to task for smelling like an old horse at the > top of a hill in July, you can tell them you are taking precautions against > bacteriological attack. > > Regards, > > Kim Siddorn. When I was in grade school we had one student who was sewn by his mother into his longjohns for the duration of the winter. This was back in the fifties in an Appalachian Mountain county school. He did get really ripe. Winters last a long time in the mountains. When I was in an English-style High Episcopal Boarding School later a student named Seashole tried the same thing. Did not even take the longjohns off for gym, nor did he shower. It was bad enough when his room door was closed in the dorm, gym was bad, sitting anywhere near him in class was terrible. When it got to where no one could stand it any further he was mobbed by half the dorm, dragged down to the showers, stripped and a liberal amount of powdered cleanser and wire brushes were very liberally applied. The longjohns were burned in the yard outside. When they got done it looked like he'd been keelhauled. Not that it's much of an excuse, but the -only- time the dorms were ever heated was between 6 and 9 pm. By morning it was 10 degrees in them some mornings. That's Fahrenheit by the way. In order to survive you put on all the clothes you owned and all the blankets. I got double pneumonia with asthma (I've outgrown it in adult years) one of my three years. At least the infirmary was heated. Those three years I had three rooms. Two had very little heat. One had such a bad pressure relief valve we had plaster dripping/dropping off of the ceiling. It was steam heat from coal furnaces. We had to shovel coal out of the flatcars into a truck at the train station, and then again into the buildings too. Black as tar-babies. Never heard of dust masks either. So off hand I'd say it's highly liable to inspire an attack. At least if you're upwind of the neighboring settlements. It figures the Germans would discover this. I had an English teacher in high school whose German artist husband would not allow her to shave her legs. Looked like ten thousand tiny tents under the nylons. I suppose today they'd be called Earth Pimples after the ny-glo tents. I wonder if any of the Russians took those new-fangled indoor potato washers they discovered in the little German rooms home after WWII. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 23 12:58:06 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:58:06 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Interesting new scam Message-ID: <01aa01c20251$19b62850$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C20259.7B58FE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the wake of the recent delete-part-of-your-operating-system scare = hoaxes, I had a spammed message today from a porn website. It talked = about viruses and worms and said that they had found a virus not of = their making glued to a message from their site. It recommended that I = immediately contact their website on the anti-virus page in order to = download the correct software to remove the virus. I thought this showed remarkable wit. Not once did the message deny it = was a porn site - but it spoke not at all of naughty things - nothing, I = suspect, to trigger parental controls, for instance. How public spirited = of them! How kind and selfless! Quite restores your faith in human = nature ................. Of course, if you contact them, they will know you are there, won't = they? They will have your e-mail address AND know it is current! When = you log on they can plonk all kinds of stuff into your machine. Very clever .......... Guys, if you are connected to the internet and don't have a firewall and = some decent antiviral software, you must be nuts! If you do, you don't = need to worry. Unless, of course, someone smarter than I knows = differently ??? Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C20259.7B58FE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In the wake of the recent=20 delete-part-of-your-operating-system scare hoaxes, I had a spammed = message today=20 from a porn website. It talked about viruses and worms and said that = they had=20 found a virus not of their making glued to a message from their site. It = recommended that I immediately contact their website on the anti-virus = page in=20 order to download the correct software to remove the virus.
 
I thought this showed remarkable wit. Not = once did the=20 message deny it was a porn site - but it spoke not at all of naughty = things -=20 nothing, I suspect, to trigger parental controls, for instance. How = public=20 spirited of them! How kind and selfless! Quite restores your faith in = human=20 nature .................
 
Of course, if you contact them, they will = know you are=20 there, won't they? They will have your e-mail address AND know it is = current!=20 When you log on they can plonk all kinds of stuff into your=20 machine.
 
Very clever ..........
 
Guys, if you are connected to the internet = and don't=20 have a firewall and some decent antiviral software, you must be nuts! If = you do,=20 you don't need to worry. Unless, of course, someone smarter than I knows = differently ???

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01A7_01C20259.7B58FE90-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 23 20:11:19 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (yolli) Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:11:19 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Group in Denmark References: <3CE938B0.F5A21A33@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <012501c2028e$2bfdf370$aa3be150@bodgitqum0exfa> The group is run by a chap by the name Oleg Zacharov - I hope I've spelt his name correctly. I first met Oleg sometimes called Oilyleggs in 1982 or so. He's a fine chap who I've spent time with such as our overnight carriage compartment to the Artic Circle in Sweden; and the time he bamboozaled us all into eating dried dog food............we were lost in the translation. They are I would suspect a fine group - but they did still have a few hangs ups, but don't we all. Roll. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rmhowe" To: "Dan Carlsson" ; "- Regia Anglorum - North America" Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:56 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Group in Denmark > http://ask-vikingekampgruppe.dk/english.html > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 24 22:29:24 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:29:24 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Chinese Viking Message-ID: A Chinese swordsmith (Paul Chen)has begun turning out some Viking-era weapons. I'm wondering what Regia folk think of their historical accuracy. 2040-GT Viking Short Bladed Spear http://www.by-the-sword.com/2040gt.JPG 2039-GT Viking Throwing Spear http://www.by-the-sword.com/2039gt.JPG 2038-GT Viking Thrusting Spear http://www.by-the-sword.com/2038gt.JPG Here are some more offerings in context: http://www.by-the-sword.com/poleaxe.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From list-regia-na@lig.net Sat May 25 01:11:38 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:11:38 EDT Subject: [Regia-NA] Chinese Viking Message-ID: They look kinda cookie-cutter Jeff/Thorfinn dsunlin@hotmail.com writes: << A Chinese swordsmith (Paul Chen)has begun turning out some Viking-era weapons. I'm wondering what Regia folk think of their historical accuracy. 2040-GT Viking Short Bladed Spear http://www.by-the-sword.com/2040gt.JPG 2039-GT Viking Throwing Spear http://www.by-the-sword.com/2039gt.JPG 2038-GT Viking Thrusting Spear http://www.by-the-sword.com/2038gt.JPG Here are some more offerings in context: http://www.by-the-sword.com/poleaxe.html >> From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon May 27 10:11:30 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:11:30 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus warning - PhDs Message-ID: <002101c2055e$7d43b850$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20566.DEE974C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gerry Fox tells me that e-mail bearing the subject line PhDs contains a = worm and should be deleted unread Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20566.DEE974C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gerry Fox tells = me that=20 e-mail bearing the subject line PhDs contains a worm and should be = deleted=20 unread

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the second mouse gets the = cheese!=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C20566.DEE974C0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon May 27 23:08:53 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 23:08:53 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Need a Landie in Britain? Message-ID: <003901c205cb$16e26170$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C205D3.7892F350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ali's Landy is for sale. 1990, big Vee 8, LPG conversion - goes like stink Shit Green. Canvas top Brilliant Chassis - just serviced MOT May next year Tax November Offers over =A33250 from Regia She's bought a Fiat Cinquachento - a yellow one (she thought it was more = becoming an abbess!!!!) Regards David H Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C205D3.7892F350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ali's Landy is = for=20 sale.

1990, big Vee 8, LPG conversion - goes like = stink

Shit=20 Green. Canvas top

Brilliant Chassis - just serviced

MOT = May next=20 year

Tax November

Offers over =A33250 from = Regia

She's bought=20 a Fiat Cinquachento - a yellow one (she thought it was more
becoming = an=20 abbess!!!!)

Regards

David H

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the second mouse gets the = cheese!=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0036_01C205D3.7892F350-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 00:37:23 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:37:23 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] more Swords Message-ID: Are these Paul Binns/Jelling Dragon swords? http://www.by-the-sword.com/reenact1.html Hmmm... http://www.by-the-sword.com/pc-6.JPG <><><> <><><> <><><> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 01:04:31 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:04:31 EDT Subject: [Regia-NA] more Swords Message-ID: Hi Douglas, Don't think those are Binsy's blades. His hilts look more authentic and the fullers in his blades are wider. I could be wrong but I don't think so. Jeff/Thorfinn From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 08:43:48 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Allan McVie) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:43:48 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] more Swords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20020529084348.00858740@pop-server.cent.gla.ac.uk> At 16:37 28/05/02 -0700, you wrote: >Are these Paul Binns/Jelling Dragon swords? >http://www.by-the-sword.com/reenact1.html > >Hmmm... >http://www.by-the-sword.com/pc-6.JPG No they do not look like Binns blades, at first look they look like armourclass swords but reading the discription on the site - >"They offer solid wood grips wrapped in black leather, solid steel pommels >and guards. The tang is threaded and the pommel (depending on sword type) >either screws onto the tang or is held in place by a threaded nut. Each blade >is fully tempered, hardened and is as flexible as an historical blade. The >edges of the blades are left un-sharpened and slightly rounded for >rebated/live steel combat. All the steel parts of theses swords are "satin" >finished for easy care. You can take the rust off with a plastic kitchen >scrubby and WD-40 oil." It does not sound like armourclass either I am sure that they do not use threaded tangs. Allan From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 09:28:44 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Robert Woodman) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:28:44 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] more Swords Message-ID: it sounds like it may be made in India. A friend picked up a sword that looks very much like this one and it had a threaded tang, after a short time the tang snaped and the blade went flying into the people standing to the side watching. >From: Allan McVie >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] more Swords >Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:43:48 +0100 > >At 16:37 28/05/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Are these Paul Binns/Jelling Dragon swords? > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/reenact1.html > > > >Hmmm... > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/pc-6.JPG > >No they do not look like Binns blades, at first look they look like >armourclass swords but reading the discription on the site - > > > >"They offer solid wood grips wrapped in black leather, solid steel >pommels > >and guards. The tang is threaded and the pommel (depending on sword type) > >either screws onto the tang or is held in place by a threaded nut. Each >blade >is fully tempered, hardened and is as flexible as an historical >blade. The >edges of the blades are left un-sharpened and slightly rounded >for >rebated/live steel combat. All the steel parts of theses swords are >"satin" >finished for easy care. You can take the rust off with a plastic >kitchen >scrubby and WD-40 oil." > >It does not sound like armourclass either I am sure that they do not use >threaded tangs. > >Allan > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 12:28:40 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Patchett) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 07:28:40 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank Message-ID: <3CF4BB68.7000501@sympatico.ca> Hello all, I've got an SCA-centric question for everyone. My husband and I hold some rank within the SCA, (we are a Viscount and Viscountess of Ealdormere). We are working on making authentic kit, both for use in the SCA and Regia. We've finished a set of low/middle class clothing for each of us, and are now working on more / higher ranking clothing. The problem arises in trying to continue to use the regalia expected for our rank in the SCA, while being as authentic as possible. We've seen crowns for Edward and Harold in the Bayeux tapestry, but none on William or any others. Would dukes, earls, barons, etc. have worn similar coronets, or other symbols of rank, other than well ornamented clothing in rich colours? If anyone could point us towards relevant research material, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Beth Patchett From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 13:08:06 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Nicholson, Andrew) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 13:08:06 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank Message-ID: I'm not aware of a pictorial representation of anyone other than a = known royal wearing a crown - not even the overmighty eorls, but I'll check = again at home. Ducal coronets are a later medieval fashion. Not even our = Atheling wears a crown - so don't go giving him ideas! Within Regia, one of the distinguishing items worn by higher ranking = males is the robe, as opposed to a tunic (or carring a baculus or mace - = however, the pesky Normans are known to indulge in all three even when they're = only Milites).=20 Having a personal banner-bearer, helm-bearer, cup-bearer and escorts = are also a good indication of status :) [and, indeed, h-b and c-b are acknowledged positions of rank within our local group structure - along = with door-wardens and lepers). Likewise Ladies seen abroad with suitable burden-laden stewards and porters can be presumed to bear significant = rank. Gu=F0rum =20 (Jarl of Galweg - no coronet but loads of retainers) This e-mail represents the personal views of the sender. Dumfries and Galloway Council accepts no responsibility whatsoever for its contents. > -----Original Message----- > From: Patchett [mailto:patchett@sympatico.ca] > Sent: 29 May 2002 12:29 > To: Regia > Subject: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank >=20 >=20 > Hello all, >=20 > I've got an SCA-centric question for everyone. >=20 > My husband and I hold some rank within the SCA, (we are a Viscount = and > Viscountess of Ealdormere). We are working on making authentic kit, > both for use in the SCA and Regia. We've finished a set of low/middle > class clothing for each of us, and are now working on more / higher > ranking clothing. The problem arises in trying to continue to use = the > regalia expected for our rank in the SCA, while being as authentic as > possible. >=20 > We've seen crowns for Edward and Harold in the Bayeux=20 > tapestry, but none > on William or any others. Would dukes, earls, barons, etc. have worn > similar coronets, or other symbols of rank, other than well = ornamented > clothing in rich colours? > If anyone could point us towards relevant research material, I would > appreciate it. >=20 > Thanks, > Beth Patchett >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na >=20 From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 17:27:48 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 09:27:48 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] more Swords Message-ID: Hmmm... yes, suppose you're right. These blades have rings (don't know what you call them) at the top and bottom of the handle, but the Jelling swords do not. >From: Allan McVie >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] more Swords >Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:43:48 +0100 > >At 16:37 28/05/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Are these Paul Binns/Jelling Dragon swords? > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/reenact1.html > > > >Hmmm... > >http://www.by-the-sword.com/pc-6.JPG > >No they do not look like Binns blades, at first look they look like >armourclass swords but reading the discription on the site - > > > >"They offer solid wood grips wrapped in black leather, solid steel >pommels > >and guards. The tang is threaded and the pommel (depending on sword type) > >either screws onto the tang or is held in place by a threaded nut. Each >blade >is fully tempered, hardened and is as flexible as an historical >blade. The >edges of the blades are left un-sharpened and slightly rounded >for >rebated/live steel combat. All the steel parts of theses swords are >"satin" >finished for easy care. You can take the rust off with a plastic >kitchen >scrubby and WD-40 oil." > >It does not sound like armourclass either I am sure that they do not use >threaded tangs. > >Allan > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 22:46:22 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 17:46:22 EDT Subject: [Regia-NA] Someone would like to join the list. Message-ID: --part1_b7.2138c03e.2a26a62e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit brock.gwyddel@virgin.net, (Kate Dudman) would like to join this egroup. She is a member and group leader in Regia UK. Aly "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." (Hector Berlioz) Vivat Regia Anglorum - the best in the field --part1_b7.2138c03e.2a26a62e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit brock.gwyddel@virgin.net, (Kate Dudman) would like to join this egroup.  She is a member and group leader in Regia UK.

Aly

"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." (Hector Berlioz)

Vivat Regia Anglorum - the best in the field --part1_b7.2138c03e.2a26a62e_boundary-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 23:18:46 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 15:18:46 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona? Message-ID: Is there someone on the list here from Arizona? I have received queries from a Regia-interested person in that neighborhood. <><><> <><><> <><><> Osweald _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed May 29 23:19:16 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:19:16 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank References: Message-ID: <001f01c2075e$e06aa180$0449063e@m1w9d8> I need no crown.....my clothes and my shopping basket are more than enough to show my rank, along with my slaves and ervamts of course!! vara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholson, Andrew" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: RE: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank I'm not aware of a pictorial representation of anyone other than a known royal wearing a crown - not even the overmighty eorls, but I'll check again at home. Ducal coronets are a later medieval fashion. Not even our Atheling wears a crown - so don't go giving him ideas! Within Regia, one of the distinguishing items worn by higher ranking males is the robe, as opposed to a tunic (or carring a baculus or mace - however, the pesky Normans are known to indulge in all three even when they're only Milites). Having a personal banner-bearer, helm-bearer, cup-bearer and escorts are also a good indication of status :) [and, indeed, h-b and c-b are acknowledged positions of rank within our local group structure - along with door-wardens and lepers). Likewise Ladies seen abroad with suitable burden-laden stewards and porters can be presumed to bear significant rank. Guðrum (Jarl of Galweg - no coronet but loads of retainers) This e-mail represents the personal views of the sender. Dumfries and Galloway Council accepts no responsibility whatsoever for its contents. > -----Original Message----- > From: Patchett [mailto:patchett@sympatico.ca] > Sent: 29 May 2002 12:29 > To: Regia > Subject: [Regia-NA] Symbols of Rank > > > Hello all, > > I've got an SCA-centric question for everyone. > > My husband and I hold some rank within the SCA, (we are a Viscount and > Viscountess of Ealdormere). We are working on making authentic kit, > both for use in the SCA and Regia. We've finished a set of low/middle > class clothing for each of us, and are now working on more / higher > ranking clothing. The problem arises in trying to continue to use the > regalia expected for our rank in the SCA, while being as authentic as > possible. > > We've seen crowns for Edward and Harold in the Bayeux > tapestry, but none > on William or any others. Would dukes, earls, barons, etc. have worn > similar coronets, or other symbols of rank, other than well ornamented > clothing in rich colours? > If anyone could point us towards relevant research material, I would > appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Beth Patchett > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 30 00:45:46 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (DON HARRINGTON) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 16:45:46 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona? References: Message-ID: <004d01c2076a$f4dac120$0200000a@pavilion> I hail from sunny Arizona, as a matter of fact. I admit I'm still in the process of working up to truly authentic kit. Don Harrington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona? > Is there someone on the list here from Arizona? > > I have received queries from a Regia-interested person in that neighborhood. > <><><> <><><> <><><> > Osweald > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > > From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 30 13:42:09 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:42:09 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona Message-ID: <5201EE74.6F3C9C85.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Greetings, I am new to the list. I also live in Arizona. In Gilbert, part of the Phoenix Metro Area. It was 107 yesterday. No Anglo-Saxon lived in this climate. Maybe I need to move. You all seem to be good people. Wish I could meet you. Eileen __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 30 14:58:52 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:58:52 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus', worms and other nastys Message-ID: <006e01c207e2$2157f110$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C207EA.8303C800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gerry Fox rang me last night. She has been having a lot of trouble with = virus' & worms infesting her system and when she turned it on this = evening, it said "what hard drive would that be, Gerry?" (actually "No = fixed disk detected", which is possibly worse!)=20 She tells me that there is a contagious carrier in the Medwaeg e-group = and I pass this along in good faith. Anyway, with this in mind, I ran a full system check this morning. It = took over an hour to check the 177,000 + files on my computor. Guess what? Norton found no less than 37 assorted worms and virus', = mostly kez and kak worms but there was a virus lurking in there too. Now = quarantined and dumped, I take it I'm safe? Please tell me I am. The system is working OK, I backed up to CD and then rebooted & = everything appears to be OK. Anything else I should be doing? Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C207EA.8303C800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gerry Fox rang me last night. She has been = having a lot=20 of trouble with virus' & worms infesting her system and when she = turned it=20 on this evening, it said "what hard drive would that be, Gerry?" = (actually "No=20 fixed disk detected", which is possibly worse!)
 
She tells me that there is a contagious = carrier in the=20 Medwaeg e-group and I pass this along in good faith.
 
Anyway, with this in mind, I ran a full = system check=20 this morning. It took over an hour to check the 177,000 + files on my=20 computor.
 
Guess what? Norton found no less than 37 = assorted worms=20 and virus', mostly kez and kak worms but there was a virus lurking = in there=20 too. Now quarantined and dumped, I take it I'm safe?
 
Please tell me I am.
 
The system is working OK, I backed up to CD = and then=20 rebooted & everything appears to be OK. Anything else I should be=20 doing?

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the = second=20 mouse gets the cheese!
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C207EA.8303C800-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 30 17:25:59 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Holly Fabre) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:25:59 -0600 Subject: [Regia-NA] Virus', worms and other nastys In-Reply-To: <006e01c207e2$2157f110$f018c050@kim1>; from kim.siddorn@blueyonder.co.uk on Thu, May 30, 2002 at 02:58:52PM +0100 References: <006e01c207e2$2157f110$f018c050@kim1> Message-ID: <20020530102558.H14399@swcp.com> On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 02:58:52PM +0100, J. K. Siddorn wrote: > Anything else I should be doing? > Running Linux. ;-) Holly From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 30 17:32:18 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 09:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona Message-ID: Eileen: Welcome to the group! Seems to be a little slow lately. Try to make it to Old Fort Macarthur Days in LA on the Fourth of July weekend. It's usually quite cool there by the seashore... <><><> <><><> <><><> Osweald >From: juditheileeny@netscape.net (Eileen Young) >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona >Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:42:09 -0400 > >Greetings, > >I am new to the list. I also live in Arizona. In Gilbert, part of the >Phoenix Metro Area. It was 107 yesterday. No Anglo-Saxon lived in this >climate. Maybe I need to move. > >You all seem to be good people. Wish I could meet you. > >Eileen > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. >Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! >http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu May 30 23:52:39 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 23:52:39 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Another world guys... Message-ID: <003501c2082c$b31164c0$f018c050@kim1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C20835.14BD3BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone with the slightest interest in web design and/or motorcycles = might like to look in on www.thevincent.co.uk Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C20835.14BD3BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone with the slightest interest in web = design and/or=20 motorcycles might like to look in on
 

Regards,
 

Kim Siddorn.
 
The early bird may get the worm -
but the second mouse gets the = cheese!=20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C20835.14BD3BB0-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 31 01:19:06 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jack Garrett) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:19:06 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Arizona References: <5201EE74.6F3C9C85.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <3CF6C179.1471CB21@pacbell.net> Eileen I live in Alamo, California, in the San Francisco Bay Area. It was 96 here today - unusually warm for this time of the year. We get together the second Saturday of each month. (It's a Viking age living history group.) So, if you're ever in the area... Jack Eileen Young wrote: > Greetings, > > I am new to the list. I also live in Arizona. In Gilbert, part of the Phoenix Metro Area. It was 107 yesterday. No Anglo-Saxon lived in this climate. Maybe I need to move. > > You all seem to be good people. Wish I could meet you. > > Eileen > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 31 09:42:17 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 04:42:17 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] getelds Message-ID: <2FC92848.0274B3C9.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Greetings, What are the NA Anglo Saxons doing for tents and where are they getting them? Eileen __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 31 15:36:58 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 07:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Regia-NA] getelds Message-ID: <20020531073700.18720.h010.c001.wm@mail.idlh.net.criticalpath.net> Hi Guys, I'm back from my latest trip to the UK, but still not quite 'back online' for the moment. I'm having some issues with my dialup connection from home, so my attention to personal email is a little spotty. In case I didn't mention it, I have a new job which is much closer to home. As soon as I am able to get my life sorted out after being out of work for a month or so, I'll be able to spend some of those 2 hours a day I'm saving from not driving in rush hour to work on Regia stuff. Now, I've done a bit of research on Anglo-Saxon tents (also called Getelds...pronounced yeteld or something like that in case you're curious). Have a look at some of my notes here: http://www.mathomhouse.com/regia/notes/ I have maybe 6 or 8 new pictures from manuscripts. I'll be scanning them up soon, and will put them online. I don't know anyone who makes one that I think is 'right'. There are a couple of people who make Getelds that I think are 'wrong' and some who I'm ambivalent about. Right now I'm working on having a guy in England (because I haven't met at tent maker here in the US - hint, hint) make a prototype for me. If that works, then I expect I'll make the pattern available. In other news, I'm about to get a bunch of wooden bowls, cups, and such from Robin Wood in the UK. I also have some bone pins based on examples found in York and other places. If you're interested, let me know and I'll fill you in on the details. I haven't been keeping up on the Regia mail for the past 3 weeks because of my new job, ISP problems, and being away. So if you have any membership or other sort of issues, drop me a note and I'll get back to you right away. It might take me a while to wade through all my Regia list mail. BTW...Thanks Kim & Jon, I seem to be on the UK Regia egroup again! ^_^ Take Care, Tom On Fri, 31 May 2002, Eileen Young wrote > > Greetings, > > What are the NA Anglo Saxons doing for tents and where are they getting them? > > Eileen > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 31 17:01:50 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 17:01:50 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] getelds References: <20020531073700.18720.h010.c001.wm@mail.idlh.net.criticalpath.net> Message-ID: <000701c208bc$79b27e90$f018c050@kim1> Just off to Fritton Lake for the week, so will be offline. Will take some photos of tents & constructional details for you all whilst there. No point in re-inventing the wheel! Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] getelds > Hi Guys, > I'm back from my latest trip to the UK, but still not > quite 'back online' for the moment. I'm having some > issues with my dialup connection from home, so my > attention to personal email is a little spotty. > > In case I didn't mention it, I have a new job which is > much closer to home. As soon as I am able to get my > life sorted out after being out of work for a month or > so, I'll be able to spend some of those 2 hours a day > I'm saving from not driving in rush hour to work on > Regia stuff. > > Now, I've done a bit of research on Anglo-Saxon tents > (also called Getelds...pronounced yeteld or something > like that in case you're curious). > > Have a look at some of my notes here: > http://www.mathomhouse.com/regia/notes/ > > I have maybe 6 or 8 new pictures from manuscripts. > I'll be scanning them up soon, and will put them online. > > I don't know anyone who makes one that I think is > 'right'. There are a couple of people who make Getelds > that I think are 'wrong' and some who I'm ambivalent > about. > > Right now I'm working on having a guy in England > (because I haven't met at tent maker here in the US - > hint, hint) make a prototype for me. If that works, > then I expect I'll make the pattern available. > > In other news, I'm about to get a bunch of wooden > bowls, cups, and such from Robin Wood in the UK. I > also have some bone pins based on examples found in > York and other places. If you're interested, let me > know and I'll fill you in on the details. > > I haven't been keeping up on the Regia mail for the > past 3 weeks because of my new job, ISP problems, and > being away. So if you have any membership or other > sort of issues, drop me a note and I'll get back to you > right away. It might take me a while to wade through > all my Regia list mail. > > BTW...Thanks Kim & Jon, I seem to be on the UK Regia > egroup again! ^_^ > > Take Care, > Tom > > > > On Fri, 31 May 2002, Eileen Young wrote > > > > > Greetings, > > > > What are the NA Anglo Saxons doing for tents and > where are they getting them? > > > > Eileen > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and > great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying > online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account > today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > list-regia-na mailing list > > list-regia-na@lig.net > > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 31 17:41:25 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] getelds Message-ID: Eileen, I can't speak for others, but I built one myself. You can see about as much as I'm willing to show here: http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ftmac2001 I made the mistake of washing the canvas drop cloth after I cut it out and sent it to the sail-repair shop for assembly, so it is not as big as I thought it would be. :( <><><> <><><> <><><> >From: juditheileeny@netscape.net (Eileen Young) >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net >To: list-regia-na@lig.net >Subject: [Regia-NA] getelds >Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 04:42:17 -0400 > >Greetings, > >What are the NA Anglo Saxons doing for tents and where are they getting >them? > >Eileen > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. >Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! >http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ > >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na <><><> <><><> <><><> Beoð ge gesunde, Osweald of Baldurstrand http://groups.yahoo.com/group/California_Viking_Age http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri May 31 21:55:31 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Hrolf Douglasson) Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 21:55:31 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Another world guys... References: <003501c2082c$b31164c0$f018c050@kim1> Message-ID: <002801c208e5$82854420$09bf01d5@m1w9d8> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C208ED.E25B49A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are kidding me...having just driven home whilst admiring the = 3-yr-old Triumph Legend in the next lane....there's REALLY a wewbsite = for Vincents??? There are Gods, after all!!!! Hrolf the over-wheeled (except when it comes to FWD, where I am = somewhat under, at the moment) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J. K. Siddorn=20 To: Regia UK E-group ; list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:52 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] Another world guys... Anyone with the slightest interest in web design and/or motorcycles = might like to look in on www.thevincent.co.uk Regards, Kim Siddorn. 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    There are Gods, = after=20 all!!!!
 
    Hrolf the = over-wheeled (except=20 when it comes to FWD, where I am somewhat under, at the = moment)
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