[Regia-NA] sword thickness
Martin Field
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:42:09 -0400
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Good point regards the armies meeting for combat.
I think there was a recent article in Withowinde that mentioned there =
was evidence that the two combatents would spend a dispproportional time =
persueing and eluding.
It just was'nt in the long term interest to always fight and run the =
risk of losing with the resultant consequences.
Martin F.
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From: MIKE LAWSON=20
To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: [Regia-NA] sword thickness
Out of curiosity what are the thickness of sword blades of our =
period?Thinest & thickest mesurements?
When we talk to the public we generally say things like "The sword =
weighs the same as an original but it's blunt for fighting".Just how =
true is that,i usually ask for a blade to be made around 5mm thick =
without knowing how thick the blades of the original actually were?
I'm not bothered how flexible a blade is as long as it's strong enough =
& safe enough for combat use but i do want my {expensive! } equipment to =
be as acurate as possible to avoid any future problems with =
authenticity.A blunt blade will always be heavier than a sharp of the =
same dimensions by the nature of the extra metal needed to stop it =
having a sharp edge but i don't want it any heavier than it has to be!
Thanks to the Wirral for a good show,very relaxing. Whilst there i got =
involved in a conversation where i put forward an argument that Regia is =
doing the battles all wrong in some cases {oh no!I hear?}.When it comes =
to our battles we always portray 2 armies meeting,men in mail,the clash =
of steel on steel but how acurate would that be?I believe that the =
Viking raiders attacked unannouced or with very little warning , giving =
the local lord very little chance to organise any form of defense.The =
lord may have a couple of well armed retainers{?}but by & large the main =
defense must have come from the local population who would have been =
farmers.If the farmers run away they live to fight another day,they also =
have somewhere safe to run unlike there Viking counter parts who are =
there to fight by choice & are generally well armed & armoured & well =
motivated.I believe that this means we ought to do more battles with =
unarmoured Saxon farmers armed with spear & shield & the occasional axe =
& a couple of blokes in armour versus a load of Viking raider {fewer in =
number than the Saxons?} who are much better armed & armoured.
We all know this aint gonna happen,"i didn't travel 300 miles to be a =
peasent farmer,i'm off to a society that will let me use my fancy kit" =
would be flying around in 2 shakes of a spear & we would loose members =
very quickly.So i put these ideas forward to stir up a debate?
Feedback would be intresting?
Mike
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good point regards the armies meeting =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think there was a recent article=20
in Withowinde that mentioned there was evidence that the two =
combatents=20
would spend a dispproportional time persueing and eluding.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It just was'nt in the long term =
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fight and run the risk of losing with the resultant =
consequences.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Martin F.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Out of curiosity what are the thickness of sword blades of our=20
period?Thinest & thickest mesurements?</DIV>
<DIV>When we talk to the public we generally say things like "The =
sword weighs=20
the same as an original but it's blunt for fighting".Just how true is =
that,i=20
usually ask for a blade to be made around 5mm thick without knowing =
how thick=20
the blades of the original actually were?</DIV>
<DIV>I'm not bothered how flexible a blade is as long as it's strong =
enough=20
& safe enough for combat use but i do want my {expensive! } =
equipment to=20
be as acurate as possible to avoid any future problems with =
authenticity.A=20
blunt blade will always be heavier than a sharp of the same dimensions =
by the=20
nature of the extra metal needed to stop it having a sharp edge but i =
don't=20
want it any heavier than it has to be!</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to the Wirral for a good show,very relaxing. Whilst there =
i got=20
involved in a conversation where i put forward an argument that Regia =
is doing=20
the battles all wrong in some cases {oh no!I hear?}.When it comes to =
our=20
battles we always portray 2 armies meeting,men in mail,the clash of =
steel on=20
steel but how acurate would that be?I believe that the Viking raiders =
attacked=20
unannouced or with very little warning , giving the local lord very =
little=20
chance to organise any form of defense.The lord may have a couple of =
well=20
armed retainers{?}but by & large the main defense must have come =
from the=20
local population who would have been farmers.If the farmers run away =
they live=20
to fight another day,they also have somewhere safe to run unlike there =
Viking=20
counter parts who are there to fight by choice & are generally =
well armed=20
& armoured & well motivated.I believe that this means we ought =
to do=20
more battles with unarmoured Saxon farmers armed with spear & =
shield &=20
the occasional axe & a couple of blokes in armour versus a load of =
Viking=20
raider {fewer in number than the Saxons?} who are much better armed =
&=20
armoured.</DIV>
<DIV>We all know this aint gonna happen,"i didn't travel 300 miles to =
be a=20
peasent farmer,i'm off to a society that will let me use my fancy kit" =
would=20
be flying around in 2 shakes of a spear & we would loose members =
very=20
quickly.So i put these ideas forward to stir up a debate?</DIV>
<DIV>Feedback would be intresting?</DIV>
<DIV>Mike</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall>
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