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The Kirkcudbright Viking Festival

Dateline=20 950AD

August = 7^th –=20 11^th 2002

Website: http://www.= summerfestivities.com/events/vikings.html

Preliminaries

This important event has been in our calendar for = many months=20 and is eagerly awaited by both members and the local people. We have = been=20 involved at every stage in the development of this event that – if = it goes well=20 – might well become a permanent fixture in our annual events list. = On a previous=20 occasion, a group from the Isle of Man did the show, complete with = horned=20 helmets, furry leg bindings and Doc Martins. The locals audience thought = they=20 were great, so hopefully they will appreciate our efforts even more. =

Regia has not put on such an integrated performance = since we=20 were in Leixlip in Eire in the early 1990’s. The whole town awaits = our visit=20 with bated breath – let’s make it an event to remember. This = is the Event of the=20 Year and one not to be missed!

Special features laid on for our members when the public are not = around

Weather = permitting,=20 there will be at least one coastal run in the big ship replica
On=20 Thursday 6^th, Andy has arranged an early evening visit and=20 conducted tour of the local museum with special emphasis on the = Kirkcudbright=20 Viking Sword, the glass linen smoother and other period = artefacts.
Later on = Thursday=20 evening, we are invited to the local Scots Night celebrations in = kit.
We=20 are invited to shoot with the local archery club on the evening of = Friday=20 9^th. This = will take=20 place in the arena at our site as we are set up in their usual = shooting area!=20 I understand they will be shooting without sights in our honour.
Monday = 12^th=20 is a free day with no public commitment. Andy is arranging a special = visit and=20 conducted tour at the Whithorn = Site and=20 Museum to see the site that he has worked at for a good chunk of his = life.=20 There – amongst other features – we will see the remains = of the Northumbrian=20 monastery dedicated to St Cuthbert and medieval = crypt.
Finally, this is a great opportunity = to visit=20 the Ruthwell Cross on the way home. Ruthwell is a tiny church near = Annan off=20 the A75 on the way back south. Now inside the church to protect it = from the=20 weather, it is well worth seeing, depicting as it does a curios = mixture of=20 Pagan Viking and Christian symbolism

The=20 history

Kirkcudbright=20 (pronounced ker koo bree) straddles the river at the site of a = prehistoric river crossing. There is an = excavated=20 Viking burial in the churchyard in which an excellent sword was found = which – in=20 association with other finds- gives evidence of the Anglian domination = of the=20 Galloway coast in the 7^th & 8^th centuries. = Local place=20 name evidence is 10^th & 11^th century Viking = and there=20 was a late 12^th century Burgh at the castle site at Castle = Dykes=20 which is the place where we are putting on the show.

Programme

Living History Encampment 11.00am – = 4.30pm

Warriors at training - 10.00am

Archery display - 12.00 noon

Arming of the Viking Hersir – 2.00pm

Battle – 3.00pm

Plus featured interpretations and = demonstrations

Day outlines.

Tuesday 6^th – set up day. No = public=20 commitment.

Wednesday 7^th – Daytime = performances

Thursday 8^th – Daytime = performances plus evening=20 visits to museum and Scots Night

Friday 9^th – Daytime performances = plus evening=20 visit by the local archery club

Saturday 10^th – Daytime = performances, plus Wedding=20 in the church in town at 11.30am

Sunday 11^th – Daytime = performances, plus Longship=20 landing at 1.30pm

Sunday evening – LHE open for an hour in the = evening, as at=20 Fritton Lake. Torchlit procession, ship burning and fireworks display at = dusk at=20 the harbour.

Monday 12^th – No public = commitment. Veg out, pack=20 up – whatever you like. Visit to Whithorn during the day

Tuesday 13^th – No public = commitment. We should be=20 off the site by noon on this day.

Military

Major battles every day, especially at = the=20 weekend, as we have done in the past at Fritton. This is an early event: = you=20 might like to read up on the events surrounding the event dateline. = There will=20 be an open-ended battle scenario along our usual lines. I stress that = the battle=20 we shall fight will be an ENACTMENT of possible combats that must have = taken=20 place at this important river crossing between Scots of Anglian = extraction and=20 Viking raiders.

Training sessions will take place each = day. All=20 Regia Training Officers are politely requested to do let Joe Ellen = (01474 -=20 323633) know if they are attending or not.

In addition to the competition against = the local=20 archery club on Friday evening, there will be demonstrations each day at = our=20 site. Please bring your bows.

Living=20 History Exhibit

Set up day on Tuesday 6^th = August, open=20 to the public on Wednesday 7^th. The site will be open from = 11.00am to=20 4.30pm each day, including Saturday and Sunday. LHE structures may be = struck=20 after the Shipburning on Sunday evening or can remain on site until = Tuesday noon=20 as you wish. If you are normally LHE crew, please contact Ali Higginson = (01843 -=20 848400) to say you whether you will be there or no so she can plan the = site. Wic=20 subsidy will be available as usual.

As usual, fires on the LHE must be in = fire-boxes.=20 As to infill for the boxes, I have arranged the use of builder’s = sand. Please=20 bring a garden sieve with you to remove the lumpy bits at the end of the = weekend. Wood and sand are being arranged through Andy=20 Nicholson.

Maritime

We will have one of the big GRP = replicas at this=20 show in addition to the Saexering. We had hoped to get the Verdandi (now = in=20 Scotland undergoing an overhaul) to this show, but there are still = planks out of=20 the hull as I write this in the closing days of June. =

Both will be on the river, so will be = available=20 for sailing and rowing practice during the weekend. =

We are hoping to take the GRP replica = out=20 coasting one day, weather permitting. Contact Phil Scott (01353 861990) = for more=20 information.

Shipburning

There will be a shipburning on the = night of=20 Sunday 11^th August, the ultimate act of the Kirkcudbright = Viking=20 Festival. It will be preceded by a torchlit procession, route to be = advised on=20 the day. It is vital we have a good turn out for this important ceremony = that=20 will bring the event to an end.

Map=20 & directions

Kirkcudbright is actually a littler = further south=20 than Carlisle and is easy to reach by road. From the M6 Junction 44, = take the=20 A74 (dual carriageway) for Gretna. Join the A74(M) briefly for one = junction,=20 turning left onto the A75 for Dumfries. Look out for the ethereal = footbridge and=20 the Rhino on the bus stop as you pass through Dumfries! Continue on the = A75 for=20 Castle Douglas, turning left onto the A711, bearing left at the junction = with=20 the A762 for Kirkcudbright. Drive through the town and follow the Regia = signs,=20 which will parallel those for the swimming pool and the=20 school.

Water,=20 fires, toilets, camping, parking

These facilities will be available 24 = hours a day=20 from both LHE and modern camp sites from Tuesday noon. Stand pipes have = been=20 arranged in addition to water from the school buildings. Portaloos will = be=20 provided in addition to those in the school.

We can have TWO fires only at the = modern camp=20 site. Please comply with this request and both fire sites must have the = turf=20 lifted before building the fires. We are on the school playing field, so = DO NOT=20 lift turf within the maintained area, but there are plenty of field = edges. Wood=20 for the modern camp site fires can be obtained from the LHE supply but = there=20 should be no supply problem.

Regia members will have free access to = the=20 swimming pool for hot showers etc. This is adjacent to our site – = 50=20 yards.

Food=20 and stuff

Food and drink and other commodities = can readily=20 be obtained from the town, a short walk away – 100yds or=20 so.

Fiscal=20 matters

Full fuel expenses will be covered for = this=20 event, mileages according to MS Autoroute from your home to = Kirkcudbright and=20 return. If you want to add a tour of Scotland into your itinerary, = that’s fine,=20 just annotate the receipts that refer to the mileage that you are = claiming for.=20 Your VAT receipts must AT LEAST cover the amount of fuel that you are = claiming.=20 Please don’t buy pork pies et al on your fuel receipts! Please be = aware that=20 credit card slips ARE NOT VAT receipts. If you look at one, you will = find that=20 it says this specifically.

Don’t forget to collect your = Claim form before=20 you leave. These will be available from Kim on Sunday evening. Dedicated = forms=20 will be issued for this event and stock forms will not be acceptable. = ALL CLAIMS=20 MUST BE IN WITHIN SEVEN DAYS to expedite our claim to the=20 client.

We do not pay hardship money at fuel = paid events.=20

Security

We are not = expecting any=20 security problems, but please be prepared to stay on site over night if = you have=20 property there to look after. I’d lock valuables in the boot of = your car if I=20 were you, just as you would anywhere else. We made a big thing of site = security,=20 but it turns out that the local Police sergeant is a member of the = Sealed Knot=20 and is therefore used to re-enactors and their particular concerns. = Local=20 security cover and Policing will be visible during the = Festival

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<3D21FEE9.D8326DD1@bellsouth.net> http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2002-06-24/74984.html From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Jul 3 10:56:11 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:56:11 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Two Goliaths wanted Message-ID: <001001c22277$dcd8e610$f018c050@kim1> I have been approached to provide a number of warriors who might be interested in filming in September and October (no dates yet) for a new series about - would you believe - scenes from the Bible. They need people in quantity who can handle spears, swords and shields. Regia has such a good reputation in the media world for professional conduct and they are keen to use us. The series will be shot on location in England. This is not a hole in the corner, packet of sandwiches and sleep in a ditch show and our usual deal will apply. First off, they need to audition Goliath and his erstwhile opponent, the one that couldn't fight who was of equivalent size, NOT David! We need two men of above average height who can use our periods weapons convincingly. Anyone that wants to apply will be auditioned as these are speaking roles - not screeds of it, but they must be able to carry it off convincingly. Speaking roles attract more money than silent ones! Answers off list ASAP please for both soldiers (no audition required, basic kit, knowledge of edged weapon combat required) and for Goliath and his enemy. Audition later this month. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Jul 3 14:43:41 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:43:41 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Next Chronicle Message-ID: <004201c22297$a4c5aea0$f018c050@kim1> We have been experiencing some problems with distribution of Chronicle. This is mainly due to the Membership Secretary - who supplies the data file in MS Access that generates the labels - suffering a major computer failure followed by another one of the same within a few weeks of the first. Her computer is still off line and although I've been hanging on, I cannot wait any longer as I must get the information out for the end-of-season shows. We are using the database we used last time, as both the printer and I still have it on our hard drives. This is being augmented by a list generated by hand of those who complained they didn't get Chronicle 65 and have subsequently been supplied with this upon request. Will GL's etc please tell Gerry Fox ( 0151 637 1167) of any of their members that did not get Chronicle last time - middle of April. You should have full name and address ready to tell her when you phone: nicknames will not do! If anyone has a vital last minute contribution, I might have room. Printing next week. Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Jul 3 15:00:33 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:00:33 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: crossbows References: <5D3A1212.7FCBBACB.85AFF4C1@netscape.net> Message-ID: <3D230381.64F305FB@bellsouth.net> I had one of those aluminum prods once on an 80 pound crossbow. Because I disliked pulling it with the butt against me I used to put the butt on the ground and push down. [Had an untreated hernia at age 4, an operation at 17, another botched one at 34, and an orchiectomy (left testicle removal) at 36. So you can see why I didn't care for the abdominal draw method. The one at 34 was caused by no help when it came time to move a 700 lb. beam. I picked up one end of it - and the pain hit me about 45 minutes later.] One day the aluminum prod broke and tore a nice wide track up my inner forearm. Glad it didn't break when I was aiming it. Getting an eye torn out or a temple strike would have been less fun. I seriously recommend wrapping that aluminum prod in rawhide or something similar where the broken part doesn't fly free through the claw against your face/head. I've seen other people cover theirs for this reason. I have several other crossbows - of which one has an aluminum prod. Haven't used it in years. I now have one of the custom 320 pound windlass drawn etched design crossbows the Dubeks sell at Pennsic. I suggest ordering before Pennsic and paying then when you see it finished. They're out of Quebec. The one for show was magnificent at $800 / 400 lbs. Tried to buy it. I paid the same price for one I got last fall and would rate it at 7 on a 10 compared to what we had drawn up and agreed on. Lots of problems had to be ironed out on it after I got it, some still do. Having pulley bolts and hook parts that scratched through the stock finish the first time it was drawn was irritating to say the least. It also wasn't the shape I specified - which would have kept people's fingers from reaching above the arrow track. One lady has already gotten hurt because of that. I was told it was made to the drawn shape before I sent the remaining $580. $250 was the up front deposit. It arrived in a much different pattern instead. I suggest the crannequin instead of the windlass. Same price. Might be less problems with it. That jute cord on it parted about shot 9. And when the windlass is all the way out the cord on the right side wants to climb the side of the pulley - as it is angled incorrectly. I will say it throws a bolt so fast you can't see it fly over a short distance and it is a good twice as hard to pull out as an arrow from a hunting bow. The windlass on this one is steel from Belgium. It's also a tremendous draw at our public demos. W.F. Patterson's A Guide to the Crossbow makes a reasonable case for them in Anglo-saxon England if I remember correctly. Not steel prodded of course. And the outside wrapping of a sinew/wood/horn one is birch bark according to Alm. There are two period crossbow representations in sculpture from a bit before or during Regia period I seem to recall. Magnus Jeffrey Fulton wrote: > > While it is a beautiful website, I believe there are some serious inaccuracies in it. For instance, the fuller to prevent suction when pulling it out? A fuller does the same thing as an I-beam. It strengthens and lightens. A solid steel beam 6" X 4" will bend easier than an I beam of the same dimensions. Then the crossbow - sinew and hide crossbows weren't that powerful. Steel crossbows appearing much later and requiring hooks or levers with poundages 150 to 300 lbs could shoot 300 metres, but a sinew/hide one probably would be less than 100 lbs of pull. Our 70 lb aluminum one has the same range and penetrating power as a 30 lb longbow. It wouldn't shoot 300 metres unless you were shooting down a well! > > Bjorn > > Ealdric Frog_Hollow wrote: > > >I presume you are familiar with this ? > > > >>From: Dhubhgaill@aol.com > >>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:09:27 EDT > >>To: trimaris@trimaris.org > >>Subject: [trimaris] Incredible Battle of Hastings website > >> > >>I normally don't get excited by websites. This one is unbelievable! It > >>is a UK site about the Battle of Hastings. Check it out.....If they gave > >>Oscars for websites this would have a trunk full. > >> > >>Battle of Hastings 1066 > >> > >>Caitlin > > > >Ealdric of Frog Hollow > >"If the stars should appear but one night in a thousand years,...." > > > >Ealdric of Frog Hollow ealdric@bellsouth.net > > > > -- > monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Jul 3 17:36:47 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 09:36:47 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: crossbows Message-ID:

Ya know the more I know about crossbows, the more I love my sling...;)

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>From: rmhowe

>Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: crossbows

>Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 10:00:33 -0400

>I had one of those aluminum prods once on an 80 pound crossbow.

>One day the aluminum prod broke and tore a nice wide track up my

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From list-regia-na@lig.net Wed Jul 3 21:13:53 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (list-regia-na@lig.net) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Next Chronicle Message-ID: <20020703131355.9075.h002.c001.wm@mail.idlh.net.criticalpath.net> Hi Everyone, If you are a paid Regia member (meaning you sent money to George) and have not heard anything back, or have not received a Chronicle, please drop me a note off the list at: tgs@idlh.net Include your name, mailing address, telephone number and date you paid. I'll accumulate it all and then pass it to Kim in one big piece. Thanks, Tom "J. K. Siddorn" wrote > > We have been experiencing some problems with distribution of Chronicle. This > is mainly due to the Membership Secretary - who supplies the data file in MS > Access that generates the labels - suffering a major computer failure > followed by another one of the same within a few weeks of the first. Her > computer is still off line and although I've been hanging on, I cannot wait > any longer as I must get the information out for the end-of-season shows. We > are using the database we used last time, as both the printer and I still > have it on our hard drives. This is being augmented by a list generated by > hand of those who complained they didn't get Chronicle 65 and have > subsequently been supplied with this upon request. Will GL's etc please tell > Gerry Fox ( 0151 637 1167) of any of their members that did not get > Chronicle last time - middle of April. You should have full name and address > ready to tell her when you phone: nicknames will not do! > > If anyone has a vital last minute contribution, I might have room. Printing > next week. > > Regards, > > > Kim Siddorn. > > The early bird may get the worm - > but the second mouse gets the cheese! > > > > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Jul 4 02:30:36 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 02:30:36 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Kirkcudbright and Largs Message-ID: <00f801c222fa$65e2b580$f018c050@kim1> Kirkcudbright 6-11 August 2002 A major show in Southern Scotland, with boats, LHE, archery, wedding, landing parties, the works. Skirmishes, LHE and boats through the week, wedding on Saturday morning, battle Saturday afternoon. Battle on Sunday, followed by (short) torchlit procession and boat-burning on Sunday evening. The campsite is down by the river, with access negotiated to the adjacent swimming pool for showers, and a good range of shops nearby. We have it from Monday 5th through to Monday 12th. The show has been timed to coincide with the highest tides of the year, enabling us to use the bigger boat to transfer the groom and his party to the quayside for the wedding, and to bring warriors to the battlefield. Two years ago they had the Manx Vikings, who did a wonderful beaching, then ran ashore with horned helmets, furry waistcoats, sacking tunics and double-headed axes. The locals WERE impressed by the spectacle, and Galweg found it faintly embarrassing being in the vicinity. I would like to think that Regia can do better, and if the Maritime Officer approves, we intend to use the boats to deliver landing parties into the combat zone. We are also organizing an archery shoot against one of the local clubs, so bring your bows. Last year they had the Civil War bunch, with over 900 participants, so they have high expectations, and want a good turn-out from us. I realise that it' s a long way for a lot of you, and that many have already taken a week off for Fritton. I also remember the long arguments we had at the High Witan about raising the membership fees, and the cost of running the society. Kirkcudbright is our highest grossing event this year, and together with Largs will contribute nearly 40% of the Society's show income for this year - which will make it even worse if we end up looking like a one-man-and-his-dog outfit, without enough people to man the boats and provide a wedding party, let alone two armies. For the last few years we have had to do Largs with less than 50 people. So please think twice before saying Scotland's too far this year (and to all of you who do make the effort each year, you know who you are, many thanks, we do appreciate it). Guðrum Largs 2002 Once again we are putting on the battle for the local council and after missing doing the LHE last year we are again supplying the LHE for the Largs Viking Festival Committee. This years dates are set up on 31st Aug with the LHE starting on the 1st Sept. the LHE runs through the week with the battle on Saturday 7th and the last day of the LHE on Sunday 8th. This year we have the Scout Hall booked from Friday 30th through to Sunday 8th Sept. so no camping involved unless you want to rough it on the site in an authenti-tent. The Scout hall is right in the centre of Largs close to all the normal facilities. It is planned that there will be training on the Saturday afternoon (12.00-3.00) before the battle. (A chance to play with unusual weapons like 12' spears). We still need some people for the LHE during the week for the school visits. At present we have (from outwith Scotland) Hrolf and Vara, who are supplying a good part of the LHE along with Dave the Moneyer. It is planned that Regia supplies all the authenti-food on the LHE for the week. We have an invite to take part in the battle re-enactment of Bannockburn, which takes place during the first weekend of Largs, so here is a chance to take part in two late battles over two weekends and take part on the LHE during the week. Allan From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Jul 4 10:58:26 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 05:58:26 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking beads Message-ID: <772B5B7B.1ED1DF49.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Greetings, Does anyone know anything more about how to order the CD with the pictures of the Viking Beads? Thanks, Eileen __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Jul 4 21:48:30 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (TGS) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:48:30 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Anyone Going to the SCA's Pennsic War Anyway? In-Reply-To: <772B5B7B.1ED1DF49.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020704164718.020514a0@mail.idlh.net> Hi, In response to Jef's query to the UK Regia list about UK Regia people attending Pennsic this year... I don't believe anyone from the UK will be at Pennsic. I do plan on being there, but as yet have not spoken with George about any sort of Regia powwow. I go to Pennsic (as Jef says) for the spectacle, as well as to visit with long time friends who I only get to see once or twice a year. I will be happy to discuss and review authenticity with people on an advisory basis, but as I'm not an authenticity officer my opinion should not be taken for policy. Of course I will also be available to sort out any membership issues you may have. In case you're wondering George always has a big presence at Pennsic, so you will certainly be able to speak with him there. I will only be at Pennsic from August 10th through the 17th. Some sort of meeting would be fine with me. Sunday the 11th might be a good time, but (as far as I'm concerned) pretty much any evening would be ok. I'll be setting up shop (assuming my paperwork is squared away with PA) so my availability during the day will be limited. I was pretty well distracted by a back injury in August and Sept. last year, and then our plans were over taken by events in the fall. I'm hoping we can sort of start fresh this summer and generate some renewed vigor this year. My attitude on events and such is skewed a little, since it seems to be easier for me (located on the east coast of the US next to two big trans-Atlantic hubs) to go to the UK for events than to some of the more distant (to me) spots in the US. But that is not the case for everyone, so I see no reason we should not be organizing one or two 'national' events each year. Is anyone else planning on going? What nights would be good for you to meet? Take Care, Tom From list-regia-na@lig.net Thu Jul 4 21:49:55 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (TGS) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 16:49:55 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking beads In-Reply-To: <772B5B7B.1ED1DF49.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020704164835.02054850@mail.idlh.net> >Does anyone know anything more about how to order the CD with the pictures >of the Viking Beads? I'm told the CD is nearly finished. I'll let you know when I hear anything. Take Care, Tom From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 03:03:31 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Sudden Service #5) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Anyone Going to the SCA's Pennsic War Anyway? References: <5.0.2.1.0.20020704164718.020514a0@mail.idlh.net> Message-ID: <008201c223c8$2a2c68a0$a006b1d8@olaf> Hej! I will be there from about the 11th till the end. I am scheduled for 2 pot luck meals on Monday & Tuesday. I hope to have a party or 2 at my tent (I am camping with the Barony of Stonemarche on the Serengeti near the highway) Would y'all like to meet during the day or at night? Pax, Olaf ----- Original Message ----- > > Is anyone else planning on going? What nights would be good for you to meet? > > Take Care, > Tom From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 03:06:52 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Sudden Service #5) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 22:06:52 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking beads References: <5.0.2.1.0.20020704164835.02054850@mail.idlh.net> Message-ID: <008901c223c8$a220b8c0$a006b1d8@olaf> Good! I mentioned it to two bead making teachers at the Worcester Center for Craft-they both asked how soon I could they get copies! If your friend is interested he could probably sell a lot of copies to the mundane bead makers market. Pax, Olaf ----- Original Message ----- > I'm told the CD is nearly finished. I'll let you know when I hear anything. > > Take Care, > Tom From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 04:23:59 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Eileen Young) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 23:23:59 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Beads Message-ID: <7C725DBF.283D6174.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Greetings to All, Sandy forwarded my request to Prof Carlsson, who is doing the CD, and he replied that it would be done shortly. He gave me the following site for a preview. The pictures are great. We can't order yet. http://www16.aname.net/~arkeodok/Arkeodok%20Mapp/Arkeodok/index.html Eileen __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 04:30:56 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Sudden Service #5) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 23:30:56 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Beads References: <7C725DBF.283D6174.A4C0B83B@netscape.net> Message-ID: <015601c223d4$617a2930$a006b1d8@olaf> Sorry, but the web site didn't work for me? Pax, Olaf ----- Original Message ----- > Greetings to All, > > Sandy forwarded my request to Prof Carlsson, who is doing the CD, and he replied that it would be done shortly. He gave me the following site for a preview. The pictures are great. We can't order yet. http://www16.aname.net/~arkeodok/Arkeodok%20Mapp/Arkeodok/index.html > > Eileen From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 05:40:02 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Jeffrey Fulton) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 00:40:02 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: crossbows Message-ID: <38B9F22B.2E2A2839.85AFF4C1@netscape.net> Ours is wrapped in rawhide. It has a stirrup for pulling it, plus we have a belt hook (that we have never used). I was using my steel 150 lb. one in an indoor range once, and we were crowded over to fit too many people in, and I got too close to the wall. The stock slapped me like a stepfather would slap a red-headed stepchild. I was lucky not to lose teeth. Thanks for the heads-up on the Quebec merchant, I almost ordered a goatsfoot lever for my steel 150 lb. one, but I wasn't comfortable with them. They sold my friend a bow and craniquen one and he is happy - but it was there at Pennsic and he paid cash and walked away with it. Jef/Bjorn rmhowe wrote: >I had one of those aluminum prods once on an 80 pound crossbow. >Because I disliked pulling it with the butt against me I used >to put the butt on the ground and push down. [Had an untreated >hernia at age 4, an operation at 17, another botched one at 34, >and an orchiectomy (left testicle removal) at 36. So you can >see why I didn't care for the abdominal draw method. The one >at 34 was caused by no help when it came time to move a 700 lb. >beam. I picked up one end of it - and the pain hit me about 45 >minutes later.] > >One day the aluminum prod broke and tore a nice wide track up my >inner forearm. > >Glad it didn't break when I was aiming it. >Getting an eye torn out or a temple strike would have been less >fun. I seriously recommend wrapping that aluminum prod in rawhide or >something similar where the broken part doesn't fly free through >the claw against your face/head. I've seen other people cover theirs >for this reason. I have several other crossbows - of which one has an >aluminum prod. Haven't used it in years. > >I now have one of the custom 320 pound windlass drawn etched design >crossbows the Dubeks sell at Pennsic. I suggest ordering before Pennsic >and paying then when you see it finished. They're out of Quebec. >The one for show was magnificent at $800 / 400 lbs. Tried to buy it. >I paid the same price for one I got last fall and would rate it at >7 on a 10 compared to what we had drawn up and agreed on. >Lots of problems had to be ironed out on it after I got it, some still >do. > >Having pulley bolts and hook parts that scratched through the stock >finish the first time it was drawn was irritating to say the least. >It also wasn't the shape I specified - which would have kept >people's fingers from reaching above the arrow track. >One lady has already gotten hurt because of that. >I was told it was made to the drawn shape before I sent the remaining >$580. >$250 was the up front deposit. >It arrived in a much different pattern instead. >I suggest the crannequin instead of the windlass. Same price. >Might be less problems with it. That jute cord on it parted about shot >9. >And when the windlass is all the way out the cord on the right side >wants >to climb the side of the pulley - as it is angled incorrectly. > >I will say it throws a bolt so fast you can't see it fly over a short >distance and it is a good twice as hard to pull out as an arrow >from a hunting bow. The windlass on this one is steel from Belgium. >It's also a tremendous draw at our public demos. > >W.F. Patterson's A Guide to the Crossbow makes a reasonable case >for them in Anglo-saxon England if I remember correctly. Not steel >prodded of course. And the outside wrapping of a sinew/wood/horn one >is birch bark according to Alm. There are two period crossbow >representations >in sculpture from a bit before or during Regia period I seem to recall. > >Magnus > >Jeffrey Fulton wrote: >> >> While it is a beautiful website, I believe there are some serious inaccuracies in it. For instance, the fuller to prevent suction when pulling it out? A fuller does the same thing as an I-beam. It strengthens and lightens. A solid steel beam 6" X 4" will bend easier than an I beam of the same dimensions. Then the crossbow - sinew and hide crossbows weren't that powerful. Steel crossbows appearing much later and requiring hooks or levers with poundages 150 to 300 lbs could shoot 300 metres, but a sinew/hide one probably would be less than 100 lbs of pull. Our 70 lb aluminum one has the same range and penetrating power as a 30 lb longbow. It wouldn't shoot 300 metres unless you were shooting down a well! >> >> Bjorn >> >> Ealdric Frog_Hollow wrote: >> >> >I presume you are familiar with this ? >> > >> >>From: Dhubhgaill@aol.com >> >>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 16:09:27 EDT >> >>To: trimaris@trimaris.org >> >>Subject: [trimaris] Incredible Battle of Hastings website >> >> >> >>I normally don't get excited by websites. This one is unbelievable! It >> >>is a UK site about the Battle of Hastings. Check it out.....If they gave >> >>Oscars for websites this would have a trunk full. >> >> >> >>Battle of Hastings 1066 >> >> >> >>Caitlin >> > >> >Ealdric of Frog Hollow >> >"If the stars should appear but one night in a thousand years,...." >> > >> >Ealdric of Frog Hollow ealdric@bellsouth.net >> > >> >> -- >> monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net >_______________________________________________ >list-regia-na mailing list >list-regia-na@lig.net >http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > -- monsieurgeoffrey@netscape.net __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 11:26:22 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Frojel Gotlandica) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 20:26:22 +1000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Beads In-Reply-To: <015601c223d4$617a2930$a006b1d8@olaf> Message-ID: <200207051026.g65AQNOW011358@grape.dcsi.net.au> Hi Olaf Yes sorry mate that's why I didn't post the URL it was only a temporary= site while he is waiting for his IP to put the permanent web page up. It was only up for a bit over a day. Sorr= y but the new one will be up very soon and then people will be able to order the CD's, in the meantime I h= ave been forwarding the emails to him and he has been replying as best he can to most people, there have been = a lot of people asking so far so I hope we didn't jump the gun too much. Still he assures me that he will keep a= list and contact all of us as soon as they are in. Waiting is the hard part I can send a sample pic that he se= nt me if you want to have a look at the quality of the photos. I got smart and downloaded the pics. At present I know he is working on the next CD which is Knives and shea= ths that should be interesting too. Cheers Sandy Fr=94jel Gotlandica Viking Re-enactment Society. http://www.frojel.com/ frojel@frojel.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 11:33:59 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Frojel Gotlandica) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 20:33:59 +1000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Beads In-Reply-To: <015601c223d4$617a2930$a006b1d8@olaf> Message-ID: <200207051034.g65AXxOW012285@grape.dcsi.net.au> --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_5153984=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all Here is the last email I recieved with the expected url so keep an eye o= pen it will be up soon, hopefully next week. It's all in the hands of his IP people now. Cheers Sandy Hej Sandy, Yes, I think the idea of different CD,s is very good. It will be a proje= ct that can go on for a long time for me, I hope. I have almost everything ready now. I have the web page ready to= put out, but my page (www.arkeodok.com) is not yet ready. I have to ask them to put ups some = speed. I have all the different galleries ready, I have the text to the CD ready. Now I only wait for th= e special paper to arrive from England, so I can have the CD label itself printed. I will send you the = picture of the CD for you to look at soon. Dan --------------------------------- Associate Professor Dan Carlsson Gotland University Centre for Baltic Studies 621 67 Visby, Sweden Tel. +46-498-299829 Fax. +46-498-299892 http://viking.hgo.se ________________________ Fr=94jel Gotlandica Viking Re-enactment Society. http://www.frojel.com/ frojel@frojel.com --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_5153984=_=_=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all
Here is the last email I recieved with the expected url so keep an eye o= pen it will be up soon,
hopefully next week. It's all in the hands of his IP people now.
Cheers
Sandy

Hej Sandy,
Yes, I think the idea of different CD,s is very good. It will be a proje= ct that can go on for a long time for me, I hope. I have almost everyth= ing ready now. I have the web page ready to put out, but my page (www.arkeodok.com) is not yet ready. I have to ask them to put ups some speed. I hav= e all the different galleries ready, I have the text to the CD ready. No= w I only wait for the special paper to arrive from England, so I can hav= e the CD label itself printed. I will send you the picture of the CD for= you to look at soon.

Dan
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Associate Professor Dan Carlsson
Gotland University
Centre for Baltic Studies
621 67 Visby, Sweden
Tel. +46-498-299829
Fax. +46-498-299892
http://viking.hgo.se
________________________
Fr=F6jel Gotlandica Viking Re-enactment Society.
= http://www.frojel.com/
frojel@frojel.com --_=_=_=IMA.BOUNDARY.HTML_5153984=_=_=_-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Fri Jul 5 15:16:45 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 15:16:45 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots Message-ID: <003e01c2242e$980c8c90$f018c050@kim1> This is a really good way of getting photos out where people can see them Since I started the page, (what, 6 weeks?) I've had 3,770 views, 764 of which were this week! Over 1,300 views were of the Fritton pictures. http://community.webshots.com/user/kimsiddorn Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Jul 7 01:15:49 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (TGS) Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 20:15:49 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Membership Address Update In-Reply-To: <003e01c2242e$980c8c90$f018c050@kim1> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20020706200553.020292e0@mail.idlh.net> Hi, I spoke with George today, who's been handling Regia membership as well as getting accepted to grad. school, working on his house, etc. In order to provide more feedback to our new members and to get them on the list to receive the Chronicle as quickly as possible, we've decided that I'll take over accepting the membership applications. The new address for sending your Regia membership applications, etc. to is: Regia Anglorum North America Membership Box 410 14625 Baltimore Avenue Laurel, MD 20707-4902 USA He mentioned that he had submitted 4 applications recently. Beth and Mark were part of that four, he didn't remember the other two. (Maybe they can drop me a note off the list as well?) I will try to insure that things happen in a more timely and visible fashion. If you have any questions please drop me a note at: tgs@idlh.net Apropos to that, if anyone is interested in getting involved in the administration of Regia Anglorum North America, drop me a note off the list (Please!) at: tgs@idlh.net Thanks, Tom From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Jul 7 05:32:23 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Bruce Truman) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 21:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Regia-NA] Membership Address Update In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20020706200553.020292e0@mail.idlh.net> Message-ID: <20020707043223.5864.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com> --- TGS wrote: > Hi, > I spoke with George today, who's been handling Regia > membership as well as > getting accepted to grad. school, working on his > house, etc. In order to > provide more feedback to our new members and to get > them on the list to > receive the Chronicle as quickly as possible, we've > decided that I'll take > over accepting the membership applications. > > The new address for sending your Regia membership > applications, etc. to is: > > Regia Anglorum North America Membership > Box 410 > 14625 Baltimore Avenue > Laurel, MD 20707-4902 > USA > > He mentioned that he had submitted 4 applications > recently. Beth and Mark > were part of that four, he didn't remember the other > two. (Maybe they can > drop me a note off the list as well?) > > I will try to insure that things happen in a more > timely and visible > fashion. If you have any questions please drop me a > note at: tgs@idlh.net > > Apropos to that, if anyone is interested in getting > involved in the > administration of Regia Anglorum North America, drop > me a note off the list > (Please!) at: tgs@idlh.net > > Thanks, > Tom > Hello Tom, I am having problems trying to get the app. form. Can you contact me offlist? Bruce Truman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Sun Jul 7 20:32:25 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 15:32:25 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Anyone Going to the SCA's Pennsic War Anyway? References: <5.0.2.1.0.20020704164718.020514a0@mail.idlh.net> Message-ID: <3D289749.8FF02280@bellsouth.net> TGS wrote: > > Hi, > In response to Jef's query to the UK Regia list about UK Regia people > attending Pennsic this year... > > I don't believe anyone from the UK will be at Pennsic. I do plan on being > there, but as yet have not spoken with George about any sort of Regia > powwow. I go to Pennsic (as Jef says) for the spectacle, as well as to > visit with long time friends who I only get to see once or twice a year. I > will be happy to discuss and review authenticity with people on an advisory > basis, but as I'm not an authenticity officer my opinion should not be > taken for policy. Of course I will also be available to sort out any > membership issues you may have. In case you're wondering George always has > a big presence at Pennsic, so you will certainly be able to speak with him > there. Where is that? > I will only be at Pennsic from August 10th through the 17th. Some sort of Anne apparently has made off site reservations for us from the 12th to the 17th, but we probably won't be on site on the 12th. Last year illness delayed us two days. I will most probably be on a handicapped scooter this year too. Ours is older, heavily modified and has arm-supports that are quite unusual. As for meeting places, anywhere not down a really steep hill or near that insidious food court. Like being immersed in Liquid Smoke last year. Washed our clothes out immediately upon returning to the motel that night. If it happens to be at Thora's perhaps we could drive down the big hill and not get in serious trouble temporarily. We have a small green Windstar Van with handicapped accomodations. Magnus > meeting would be fine with me. Sunday the 11th might be a good time, but > (as far as I'm concerned) pretty much any evening would be ok. I'll be > setting up shop (assuming my paperwork is squared away with PA) so my > availability during the day will be limited. > > I was pretty well distracted by a back injury in August and Sept. last > year, and then our plans were over taken by events in the fall. I'm hoping > we can sort of start fresh this summer and generate some renewed vigor this > year. My attitude on events and such is skewed a little, since it seems to > be easier for me (located on the east coast of the US next to two big > trans-Atlantic hubs) to go to the UK for events than to some of the more > distant (to me) spots in the US. But that is not the case for everyone, so > I see no reason we should not be organizing one or two 'national' events > each year. > > Is anyone else planning on going? What nights would be good for you to meet? > > Take Care, > Tom From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 01:11:05 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 20:11:05 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: crossbows References: <38B9F22B.2E2A2839.85AFF4C1@netscape.net> Message-ID: <3D28D899.BDE07E9A@bellsouth.net> Jeffrey Fulton wrote: > > Ours is wrapped in rawhide. It has a stirrup for pulling it, plus we have a belt hook (that we have never used). I was using my steel 150 lb. one in an indoor range once, and we were crowded over to fit too many people in, and I got too close to the wall. The stock slapped me like a stepfather would slap a red-headed stepchild. I was lucky not to lose teeth. > Thanks for the heads-up on the Quebec merchant, I almost ordered a goatsfoot lever for my steel 150 lb. one, but I wasn't comfortable with them. They sold my friend a bow and craniquen one and he is happy - but it was there at Pennsic and he paid cash and walked away with it. > > Jef/Bjorn I guess pushing down towards the ground in my case was a good idea compared to getting a shot in the chops with the stock, huh? Sorry you got hurt. There are a lot of ways to pull a crossbow. One is to use a hooked pulley between your belt and the end of the stock. As you stand it cuts half the weight of the pull. The hooked pulley grabs the string on one side of the tiller. Your foot stays in the stirrup, and you go from a French squat to a stand as you guide the string to the nut with the hand that is not holding the tiller end. It might make it easier on you and the parts could be had at a hardware store for about $7-10. I bought one of the better belt ringed double-claws he had from Master Iolo last Pennsic. $15 each. I had originally intended to buy whatever his top crossbow was - but I was quite honestly disappointed with the quality of anything that was left. Then someone walked up with a $300 Dubek crossbow that had an engraved prod. I got really anxious when I was informed he had two left. Some kind person showed me the way. I immediately tried to buy their best crossbow but no sale - it was reserved. So I ordered one to spec. When I was at the National Archery Association's Instructor's Course at some state park near College Park, PA in the late 60's we had several people who had been at the Teelawooket Archery Instructor's School the year before (which was the only other place the NAA taught archery instructors at the time). One of the men there with them was a mid-west high school phys ed instructor. This was one very remarkable man - as in he did something people will remark on very long thereafter. It was common then in target archery to do an initial draw, breathe, do a secondary small draw, aim and release. They called out Primary draw, secondary draw, aim, release.... and.... Wonderdummy released the BOW and broke his nose very spectacularly. (In forty years this is the only time I have heard that one.) Those tournament bows could be fairly heavy. This was about the time the very first compound bows came out, before they ruined much of the target archery competition and publications for most of 3 decades. Everything over here went Compounds/Hunting just like electronic cameras are doing to analog photography now. I suppose this may be a rare form of physical dyslexia. Not so good on righty / lefty or sword hand / shield hand thinking. I really hope he didn't teach gymnastics. I wonder if he reproduced. Reminds me of a machinist shop foreman at the plastics factory. Stuck his fingers in every cutting machine in the shop until he finally lost the end of his thumb in the bandsaw and quit in self preservation. I have most of the major crossbow (and archery) books including Egon Harmuth's Die Arbalest (the successor to Payne-Galwey in German) and some rarer stuff. I've been collecting archery stuff since I was a teenager and I'm 50 now. At one time I competed in tournaments and shot on several teams. I taught archery locally and to camp counselors in the summers. I shot with some champions but averaged 279 to their near 300's. I practised twenty hours per week, and my teacher was a three time former F.I.T.A. world champion and was later on the first U.S. Olympic Committee. (O.K. Smathers from Brevard, N.C., USA.) Another man in the Asheville club took the National Indoor Barebow Championship (with NO fletching at all (a machinist by trade)) shooting 899 of 900. He could hold on target for two minutes. His groups of six were a little bigger than a quarter. So one shot bounced out of center. The next year there were two perfect 900's and his record was broken. My muscles won't do that now, so I bought the windlassed crossbow. They will do that - a little for a little while on a good day. I meant to say the prod was from Belgium. They fabricated the windlass and stock in Canada. Personally I would love to know the source for the Belgian prods they use. Maybe someone in Regia knows. The Dubeks do very pretty artistic etching on them. The mother paints on the design resist and I think the father nitric acid etches it. Being new Polish immigrants in a French speaking area they don't do English very well. Especially the parents. My prod's design is very well done but a 1/4 inch off center which makes it look like 1/2". There are hounds chasing birds and hares in foliage on either side, my wife's totem chipmunks (a surprise concession for her) are near the bow clamp irons, and the Dubeks' trademark crossed twigged acorns are sorta between them but definitely well off-center. It would have helped a bit if the etching on the prod was on center (it's obviously not), and my name and device were not upside down on the tiller box as the windlass hangs from the belt hook or would be used (but they are). (Maybe someone was in the cups that day.) The bezants of my device are about 1/4 size proportionally in the etching to what they should be compared to the accurate xerox I gave them and look more like b-b's than bezants (gold balls) place in the corners of the shield. The hammer crossing over the dividers like an A in the center was done correctly. The third etching I had asked for was entirely missing. So if you order one, pay for it at Pennsic. Had I been able to buy the $800/400 lb one at the same price I would have been far ahead actually of what I received. But there is no doubt in my mind that they do the best work at Pennsic. Having three different people work on the same project leads to problems, as it most likely did this time. Who was clear headed at the time I can't say. The device was clearly supplied to them and so was the shape I wanted on the tiller in a 4 cross-sectioned drawing with measurements. They took some shortcuts and then told me they had done it correctly as to design. (Mikal called me from Quebec to ask for the final payment and I asked him then.) They had not. It was rather interesting in that the first time I fired it the heavy prod-string flew twenty feet off to my left also. All three strings (made from artificial sinew a la LeatherFactory.com) are too long for the prod but twisting them to shorten them worked. I have no idea how close it may have come to my face and I'm glad it was not one of our family members shooting it at the time. I fired it and the string just disappeared, which was weird. Fortunately the relatives saw where it disappeared to and it didn't slap me in the glasses or nose. Since I had ordered a pair of bow bracing irons to replace/tension the strings with putting it back on was not a problem. I suggest covering the irons with leather or as I did later a fiber reinforced plastic tubing so as not to scratch the etching. The 2 irons are 1/2" square stock with 1/2" round sections about 2" long about 2" apart on the iron end. Requires two people or one with a heavy table to prop under to work them. These were well made, even sandblasted. Having the windlass's jute pulley cord part at shot nine kinda snuffed the Xmas crossbow shooting party at the relatives. I spent a week trying to find something adequate to replace it. Hoped for brown, but settled on black climbing cord, which is very strong but stiff in the pulleys so I may go to a lighter weight cord. Having one side and not the other break meant the claw put a couple shallow dents in the tiller. But by then I had spent about four + hours filing, sanding, polishing out the defects and shortened the longer pulley screws so they wouldn't gouge the stock anymore. Incidentally, the brass screws inside the brass pulleys are all thread as they made them, meaning they will wear quickly, so I intend to replace them with screws with smooth shanks I can lubricate I have already bought. To make the standard 1/4-20 round headed brass screws look period they simply cross slot the heads like an X. The brass nut with steel insert and the trigger handle, bow irons, and prod were all very well made and the oak or ash tiller was excellently selected straight grain wood as I had requested. The finish was very good on the wood. He told me he'd shot it about twenty times before shipping it to me. I'm thinking he could not have used that windlass to do so and not scratch the stock deeply as I did the first time I used it both inside the windlass box that sits on the end of the tiller and the wheeled claw that pulls the string up the stock. Both tiller stock and end were scratched the very first time I tried it slowly and carefully. Perhaps he tried it pre-finished and then finish sanded it. I don't know. It came fully assembled in a large box without much padding. Several weeks after 9/11 through Canadian and U.S. customs. So it was done on time anyway. I asked him later if he had not had enough wood thickness to make a stock thick enough so people could not put their fingers in the way as I had requested (and physically demonstrated and drawn a plan of). He said yes he had had enough wood to do that way, but didn't. This was after I had received it and he'd said he'd done it my way before I sent the last large payment pre-shipment. Read this as you will. This was the son Mikal I was dealing with. Several friends recommended sending it back and requesting the work be re-done correctly. I figured once through customs at that time was enough. I've been hit in the fingers with an 80 lb crossbow string. That hurt. I did NOT want anyone, especially my wife, hit with a 320 lb. bowstring. (But it has since already happened to a lady at an SCA event, and I did point out the problem to her previously.) It is, however, a wonderful draw to a demo table. Anne said one man stood there for 15 minutes in reverance and admired it like one would in a beautifully carved and decorated church. I had envisioned buying it like one would buying a new Cadillac. A once in a lifetime kinda thing. The 400 lb. example was magnificent at the same price, but was said to be for a man coming in from Chicago. That was a 10:10. Mine is nice in many respects, but definitely a 7:10 at the same price. So I advise caution. Buy what you see when you see it and you'll know what you are getting. But their stuff goes awful quickly. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 06:36:52 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (John Lambert) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 05:36:52 +0000 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: crossbows Message-ID: Here is a description of an early crossbow suited to the 10th or 11th Century. One of the major differences between this and later crossbows is the post release rather than the rotating nut release. The earlier bows also would have had wooden or composite prods rather than metal. http://homepages.tesco.net/~tinyclanger/albini/albini_equipment_crossbows_lockbow.htm I'm starting to build a light version for reenactment combat and will post some notes when its completed. John Lambert _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 09:16:02 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 04:16:02 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Floating cows References: <017301c20d33$7ce8f410$4917e150@bodgitqum0exfa> Message-ID: <3D294A42.1D792921@bellsouth.net> yolli wrote: > Ah well, neither did us, but we asumed that the Guiness had already been > made before the cow decided to take the permanant dip. Oh how I miss the > lazy afternoons skipping stones off the drum tight hide........... > Roll. > > > >From: "yolli" > > >Reply-To: list-regia-na@lig.net > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] getelds > > >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:09:44 +0100 > > > > > > and at the end of the field was the reservoir that supplies the > > > brewery for Guiness - in which floated the bloated carcass of a cow...... > > > > > You know whats really scary? Thats not going to stop me from drinking > > Guiness. Gee! so that's why I used to get pissy and fight when I had a snootful of Guiness in college. That's a bit bigger than a tequila worm. Everything else made me silly and sleepy (for all of two hours). At least I wasn't the guy who picked a fight with an open door and lost. But I did drag home my similarly drunk philosophy professor one night from the bar and left him passed out on the living room floor with loud hard Irish bagpipe. That was a truly psychotic experience I don't think he forgot. Weird what a guy will do when the wife is out of town. I bet his next morning class was memorable. Magnus From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 13:08:51 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (rmhowe) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 08:08:51 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] Re: Herjolfnes Patterns from same museum. References: Message-ID: <3D2980D3.CCA01ECF@bellsouth.net> I saw on the Authenticity list (nothing to get terribly excited about) that the Danish National Museum has a Man's, a Woman's and a sock pattern for sale from the Herjolfnes 1400's era find. They are pretty inexpensive. The costumes were about ten GBPounds each. The socks were much less. Apparently the woman who was asking about the patterns had learned of them by writing the Museum and had received a terse reply back giving title and price of the patterns. This was about a week ago. Magnus "Nicholson, Andrew" wrote: > > >From another list: > > Subject: Monster brooch! Help needed!! > > A strange brooch was found on Bornholm a month ago > and is now on display in the Danish National Museum. It > can also be seen on the museum's homepage: > > http://www.natmus.dk/sw1489.asp > > It is rather monstrous, almost 30 cm long, weighing about > half a kilo, silver-gilt, with a dragon's head at one end. > There are no parallels known from Scandinavia. It must > be of Iron Age - possibly Migration Period - date, but the > style of the head does not fit with Nordic animal art. Most > guesses go to South-eastern Europe (Rumania? Ukraine? > Crimea?), but till now no real relatives have appeared. > Take a look, and if you have connections in Eastern > Europe, please forward the URL to them! > > Greetings, and apologies for X-posting > > Morten > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Morten Axboe > Bredevej 87 > DK-2830 Virum > Danmark > E-mail: m_axboe@image.dk > _______________________________________________ > list-regia-na mailing list > list-regia-na@lig.net > http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 17:35:21 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:35:21 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Viking Beads Message-ID:

If you "peel back" the URL, you can get here:

http://www16.aname.net/~arkeodok/Vikingcd.html

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On manræden,

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http://www.geocities.com/baldurstrand/

>From: juditheileeny@netscape.net (Eileen Young)

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>Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2002 23:23:59 -0400

>Greetings to All,

>Sandy forwarded my request to Prof Carlsson, who is doing the CD, and he replied that it would be done shortly. He gave me the following site for a preview. The pictures are great. We can't order yet. http://www16.aname.net/~arkeodok/Arkeodok%20Mapp/Arkeodok/index.html

>Eileen

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From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 17:37:00 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:37:00 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Anyone Going to the SCA's Pennsic War Anyway? Message-ID:

Pennsic sounds like fun, I assure you that it's good to have a face-to-face after all this time. Hi Eileen!

What's the possibility of a pow-wow in Ohio?

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From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 17:39:03 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 09:39:03 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Membership Address Update Message-ID:

Tom:

Just out of morbid curiosity, what is the head count currently for GS?

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>Subject: [Regia-NA] Membership Address Update

>Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 20:15:49 -0400

>Hi,

>I spoke with George today, who's been handling Regia membership as

>well as

>getting accepted to grad. school, working on his house, etc. In

>order to

>provide more feedback to our new members and to get them on the list

>to

>receive the Chronicle as quickly as possible, we've decided that

>I'll take

>over accepting the membership applications.

>The new address for sending your Regia membership applications, etc.

>to is:

>Regia Anglorum North America Membership

>Box 410

>14625 Baltimore Avenue

>Laurel, MD 20707-4902

>USA

>He mentioned that he had submitted 4 applications recently. Beth

>and Mark

>were part of that four, he didn't remember the other two. (Maybe

>they can

>drop me a note off the list as well?)

>I will try to insure that things happen in a more timely and visible

>fashion. If you have any questions please drop me a note at:

>tgs@idlh.net

>Apropos to that, if anyone is interested in getting involved in the

>administration of Regia Anglorum North America, drop me a note off

>the list

>(Please!) at: tgs@idlh.net

>Thanks,

>Tom

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From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 22:00:41 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Douglas Sunlin) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 14:00:41 -0700 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots Message-ID:

Kim:

Here are pictures from Fort MacArthur 2002:

http://community.webshots.com/album/42992669IYTJAY

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From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 21:40:35 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Thaddeus Rogers) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:40:35 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] an introduction Message-ID: <000001c226bf$b829c770$0601a8c0@churchandmain.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2269E.31182770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Thaddeus, and I have had a growing interest in Living History groups over the past few months. I am a long time member of the SCA, and have found recently that my personal goals and those of the Society at large diverged somewhere along the track. Here I am at a recent practice in New Hampshire (I am the one with helmet hair on the left) http://www.stonemarche.com/events/various/thaddeus_artos.jpg I still love fighting, but would rather wear my maille and look spiff than strip to plastic and padding so that I can keep up with the sporters, and I find that I prefer talking to the kids in the crowd (regardless of age) over paying attention to opponents in a tournament. Kids get such a kick out of maille. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2269E.31182770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’d like to introduce = myself…

= ; My name is Thaddeus, and I have had a growing interest in Living History = groups over the past few months. I am a long time member of the SCA, and have = found recently that my personal goals and those of the Society at large = diverged somewhere along the track. Here I am at a recent practice in = New Hampshire (I am the one with helmet hair on = the left) htt= p://www.stonemarche.com/events/various/thaddeus_artos.jpg<= /span>

I still love fighting, but would rather wear my maille and look spiff than strip to plastic and padding so that I can keep up = with the sporters, and I find that I prefer talking = to the kids in the crowd (regardless of age) over paying attention to opponents = in a tournament. Kids get such a kick out of maille.

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2269E.31182770-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Mon Jul 8 22:27:50 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Phil) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:27:50 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Greetings Message-ID: <003401c226c6$50f663e0$f18e7ed4@abc1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C226CE.B1E09880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, Just a quick note to announce my subscription to the list. For those unfamiliar with the Regia national officers I am, for my sins, = the National Maritime Officer. We own five boats: two wooden - an ex = Faroese fishing boat of around 40' which is currently being restored in = Scotland, and a smaller, 16', one - and three 'plastic fantastics' - = fibreglass replicas of about 36', one kept near Shrewsbury, the other = two in York. Much of our Maritime activity centres around filmwork, but this year we = shall have used the boats at three shows - Chippenham, Fritton and = Kirkcudbright. Personally I'm a sailor rather than a person with a passionate interest = in the details of early medieval boats, so I'm afraid I'm probably not = the best person to ask on the intricacies of boat building or the = details of XYZ boat remains. That being said I'm more than happy for = anyone to e-mail me with queries about the Regia boats or period boats = in general. If I don't the answer I can probably find someone who does = (phils@clara.net). Cheers Phil Amiratus (Latinisation of the Arabic 'Emir-al-bahr' meaning 'ruler of = the seas' and forming the basis of our modern word Admiral). ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C226CE.B1E09880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings,

Just a quick note to announce my = subscription to=20 the list.

For those unfamiliar with the Regia = national=20 officers I am, for my sins, the National Maritime Officer. We own = five=20 boats: two wooden - an ex Faroese fishing boat of around 40' which is = currently=20 being restored in Scotland, and a smaller, 16', one - and three 'plastic = fantastics' - fibreglass replicas of about 36', one kept near = Shrewsbury,=20 the other two in York.

Much of our Maritime activity centres = around=20 filmwork, but this year we shall have used the boats at three shows -=20 Chippenham, Fritton and Kirkcudbright.

Personally I'm a sailor rather than a = person with a=20 passionate interest in the details of early medieval boats, so I'm = afraid I'm=20 probably not the best person to ask on the intricacies of boat building = or the=20 details of XYZ boat remains. That being said I'm more than happy for = anyone to=20 e-mail me with queries about the Regia boats or period boats in general. = If I don't the answer I can probably find someone who does (phils@clara.net).

Cheers

Phil

Amiratus (Latinisation=20 of the Arabic 'Emir-al-bahr' meaning 'ruler of the seas' = and=20 forming the basis of our modern word = Admiral).

------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C226CE.B1E09880-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Jul 9 02:19:38 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:19:38 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Webshots References: Message-ID: <01e701c226e6$b1c88fc0$f018c050@kim1> Thanks Douglas. Any chance of a show report for Chronicle? Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Sunlin" To: Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [Regia-NA] Webshots > Kim: > > Here are pictures from Fort MacArthur 2002: > > http://community.webshots.com/album/42992669IYTJAY > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here > _______________________________________________ list-regia-na mailing list list-regia-na@lig.net http://www.lig.net/mailman/listinfo/list-regia-na > From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Jul 9 02:26:17 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 02:26:17 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] Durham pictures Message-ID: <01fb01c226e7$9fb8bb60$f018c050@kim1> As Douglas was kind enough to pass on the pics from Fort McArthur, here are some from our Northern Wic's show last weekend in Durham For a look at the LHE + a few other things... including the office of the law being very silly! http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cynewulf/durham/ Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Jul 9 03:55:09 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Thaddeus) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 22:55:09 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] A question Message-ID: <000a01c226f4$0aabc460$808a06d1@l6p7t1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C226D2.82BFF100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is stainless steel right out? I currently own a ss hauberk and am = wondering if it could be used or not. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C226D2.82BFF100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is stainless steel right out? I = currently own a ss=20 hauberk and am wondering if it could be used or = not.

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C226D2.82BFF100-- From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Jul 9 04:03:22 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (J. K. Siddorn) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 04:03:22 +0100 Subject: [Regia-NA] A question References: <000a01c226f4$0aabc460$808a06d1@l6p7t1> Message-ID: <004901c226f5$2fbfd7e0$f018c050@kim1> Don't tell anyone, sunbeam! What are we going to do, leave you out in the rain to see if you rust? We shall just be envious, that's all ;o)) Regards, Kim Siddorn. The early bird may get the worm - but the second mouse gets the cheese! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thaddeus" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:55 AM Subject: [Regia-NA] A question Is stainless steel right out? I currently own a ss hauberk and am wondering if it could be used or not. From list-regia-na@lig.net Tue Jul 9 04:18:40 2002 From: list-regia-na@lig.net (Sudden Service #5) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 23:18:40 -0400 Subject: [Regia-NA] an introduction References: <000001c226bf$b829c770$0601a8c0@churchandmain.com> Message-ID: <001d01c226f7$539d4ab0$9206b1d8@olaf> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C226D5.CB4DD380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hej! Will you be at the Stonemarche Foole's Picnic this Saturday? We can = talk about Regia then if you are. If you are going to Pennsic & camping = with Stonemarche I will be there as well. Maybe we should have the = Regia meeting at the Stonemarche camp this year? I don't think Magnus, = or anyone else who has limited mobility, would have any problems making = it to there. Pax Olaf=20 who made 5 whetstones today based on those he saw at the Vikings: The = North Atlantic Saga exhibit. They are roughly 2 inches in length by a = half to 5/8 inch square drilled through at one end. I will be adding = fine silver orings on them on Wednesday when my order of stock gets in. = Here is a question for you all, especially those of you in Britain: Do = any of you carry whetstones as part of your kit & if so what would be a = reasonable price for this type of item here in the States? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thaddeus Rogers=20 To: list-regia-na@lig.net=20 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: [Regia-NA] an introduction I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Thaddeus, and I have had a growing interest in = Living History groups over the past few months. I am a long time member = of the SCA, and have found recently that my personal goals and those of = the Society at large diverged somewhere along the track. Here I am at a = recent practice in New Hampshire (I am the one with helmet hair on the = left) http://www.stonemarche.com/events/various/thaddeus_artos.jpg I still love fighting, but would rather wear my maille and look spiff = than strip to plastic and padding so that I can keep up with the = sporters, and I find that I prefer talking to the kids in the crowd = (regardless of age) over paying attention to opponents in a tournament. = Kids get such a kick out of maille. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C226D5.CB4DD380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hej!

Will you be at the = Stonemarche=20 Foole's Picnic this Saturday? We can talk about Regia then if you=20 are. If you are going to Pennsic & camping with Stonemarche I = will be=20 there as well. Maybe we should have the Regia meeting at the = Stonemarche=20 camp this year? I don't think Magnus, or anyone else who has = limited=20 mobility, would have any problems making it to there.

Pax

Olaf

who made 5 whetstones today based on = those he saw=20 at the Vikings: The North Atlantic Saga exhibit. They are roughly = 2 inches=20 in length by a half to 5/8 inch square drilled through at one = end. I=20 will be adding fine silver orings on them on Wednesday when my order of = stock=20 gets in. Here is a question for you all, especially those of you = in=20 Britain: Do any of you carry whetstones as part of your kit & = if so=20 what would be a reasonable price for this type of item here in the=20 States?

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